A bit of a rant of the scene right now.

[akauya]

Come on then Chadders, I’ll make the placards, you bring the megaphone and we’ll march on the House of Whores HQ and picket them. Maybe a general strike amongst the Punters’ Union will bring those greedy whores to their knees and they’ll cave in to our demands?

Or more likely they’ll just think you and I are fucking idiots, completely unimportant in the grand scheme of things? I’m going to be a scab and cross that picket line anyway, as I think you are spouting nonsense. But good luck to you protesting, it makes amusing watching.

Can you post a picture of the placard please, there's an endless demand to recycle it on here every time someone replies to a review complaining how much the OP paid. 

 


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[PilotMan]

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Can I buy it online somewhere 😅

[Jonestown]

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Some hope, I’ve been punting since 1969 and in that time the rates have only ever gone one way.

[Roman77]

I've noticed lately a drop in SP's in NI and those from Europe and further afield are all charging £200 an hour, some stretching it to £250 with limited services and hidden extras. The same girls seem to tour on a monthly basis so punters must be making it worth their time. Also there seems to be an increase in Ts and Tv escorts touring and again charging crazy prices. Each to their own.

Visiting a girl used to be a treat and fun but it's becoming a playground for the well healed. Unfortunately due to the current financial climate I can't afford or justify the high prices and a massage has never done it for me.

I've noticed too local girls concentrating more on Only Fans and cash apps. Do many guys actually pay for content or girls to get their hair, nails, tan done etc. in exchange for a few photos or videos? Again something that doesn't appeal to me.

Sadly the days of the £100-£150 punt are disappearing but good luck to those who can afford the new rates. Enjoy yourselves. 

[Handel2020]

I've noticed too local girls concentrating more on Only Fans and cash apps. Do many guys actually pay for content or girls to get their hair, nails, tan done etc. in exchange for a few photos or videos? Again something that doesn't appeal to me.

I find it odd, but then I have seen female vloggers getting hundreds of dollars in donations for just talking about their everyday lives. No sexual content at all and men will pay them money because they are good looking women.

[Stevelondon]

I find it odd, but then I have seen female vloggers getting hundreds of dollars in donations for just talking about their everyday lives. No sexual content at all and men will pay them money because they are good looking women.

It’s always been a case of whatever floats your boat.

[thundercrackerxx]

It's not so much the price increase but quality decrease. The English girls are getting less attractive. All too old, fat or covered in scribble. The EE's all have an attitude problem now and often also aren't as attractive as their pictures and offer a cold, bare bone service.
I noticed the decline in 2019 quite drastically all of a sudden. Carried on for a few years hoping for a good punt but almost all the one's I had from 2019-22 were bad or ok at best with a couple of exceptions so I gave up last year. Don't miss it now. The feeling of being a mug for wasting money on girls who don't deserve it put me right off ever really punting again.

[boardyhell]

its getting hard to justify except for a few exceptions
if money is no problem its a different matter but paying a girl 3/400 per hour and then extras for cim ,kissing etc is getting out of hand
1000 per hour is ridiculous ,back in the day a girl worked her way up and put her money up and up as the reviews came in
so you knew by her history what you were getting
I used to see Shanaz of London for 400 ph yonks ago, value for money
now girls come in at 600 ph and sometimes can be found on aw for 200
that said if a punter wants to spend silly money on a girl with little history, that's no problem for me
its not my money
wouldn't have problem if these girls were half as good as shanaz and Ukrainian Chantel etc

[Handel2020]

It’s always been a case of whatever floats your boat.

It might have been, but the internet changed things. The rising tide of money has raised all boats it seems.

[Conkers13]

I had to go and see a lad who used to work for me . I went in and had a coffee and starting chatting and I remarked you seem to be doing well all new flooring new sofas new television.  He then told me how they had made the money. I went upstairs to one of the bedrooms and it was all kitted out large bed 2 fucking machines
Strap ons dildos wardrobe full of different outfits and camera. He then explained his wife had lost her job and he had his hours at work reduced so they decided to go on chaturbate.
One bloke had spent £20k with them in the last 3 months and bought the fucking machines for them. They now treat this as a full time job.
He admitted without the camming  his wife would probably tried escorting.

[sirloverman]

Everything goes round in cycle. Everything will pick back up, things change.

[jamiekinkxxx]

I had to go and see a lad who used to work for me . I went in and had a coffee and starting chatting and I remarked you seem to be doing well all new flooring new sofas new television.  He then told me how they had made the money. I went upstairs to one of the bedrooms and it was all kitted out large bed 2 fucking machines
Strap ons dildos wardrobe full of different outfits and camera. He then explained his wife had lost her job and he had his hours at work reduced so they decided to go on chaturbate.
One bloke had spent £20k with them in the last 3 months and bought the fucking machines for them. They now treat this as a full time job.
He admitted without the camming  his wife would probably tried escorting.

Not sure I believe one bloke £20k in 3mths but not saying they’ll probably doing ok by what they are doing.

[jimbobted]

Not sure I believe one bloke £20k in 3mths but not saying they’ll probably doing ok by what they are doing.

I wouldn't disbelieve it. A girl I saw last year told me a few years previous she'd had an onlyfans, she only did bikini and lingerie no nudity or hard stuff. Even just with those limited offerings it covered her rent every month (she is ridiculously pretty mind, and would have been 18/19 when she was doing it).

[jaqenthebox]

Aye it's abysmal, barely anyone worth seeing, the ones that are want £120,130+ for half an hour. May be time to pack it in.

[sensualencounter]

Aye it's abysmal, barely anyone worth seeing, the ones that are want £120,130+ for half an hour. May be time to pack it in.

Looking at your review history, I’d tend to agree with you as you don’t seem to have had much luck. But then again have you really ever begun in order to pack it in? With 16 posts and 4 reviews in nearly 7 years, it doesn’t look like it really. But I could be wrong?

I’m fairly sure you could have saved up the odd £120 over that period and treated yourself maybe? Even back in the cheaper days perhaps?

[Handel2020]

But then again have you really ever begun in order to pack it in? With 16 posts and 4 reviews in nearly 7 years, it doesn’t look like it really. But I could be wrong?

Who knows. I registered on here when I was not punting a lot compared to previous years. I was busiest in the 90s and noughties and have observed things get worse over the years.

Incidentally it looks like there may be a lot more lonely guys to pay for OnlyFans women. I seen a statistic that women are choosing the top 5% of men on dating apps and that there are more young men than ever before who are not having sex.This will lead to more of them paying for OnlyFans type content or possibly punting. Either way it doesn't look good for the punting world.

[jamiekinkxxx]

I seen a statistic that women are choosing the top 5% of men on dating apps and that there are more young men than ever before who are not having sex.

What % of women are doing that? They are probably sharing a hell of a lot of men! 

[sensualencounter]

Who knows. I registered on here when I was not punting a lot compared to previous years. I was busiest in the 90s and noughties and have observed things get worse over the years.

Incidentally it looks like there may be a lot more lonely guys to pay for OnlyFans women. I seen a statistic that women are choosing the top 5% of men on dating apps and that there are more young men than ever before who are not having sex.This will lead to more of them paying for OnlyFans type content or possibly punting. Either way it doesn't look good for the punting world.

Worryingly, you’re sounding like a spokesman for the incel society there. Total and utter bullshit imo. Crap spread by idiotic misogynists to stir up hatred against women, just like that absolute menace locked up in Romania.

And you’ve even contradicted yourself by saying more men not having sex and yet believe it will lead to more punting and yet that doesn’t look good for the punting world. Which one is it??? 

[Stevelondon]

Bloody hell. I’m frightened to invite the neighbours over now. Seeing as I’ve just had new flooring, a new three piece suite and that 55 inch telly.
God knows what they will think I’m up too. 

[PilotMan]

Bloody hell. I’m frightened to invite the neighbours over now. Seeing as I’ve just had new flooring, a new three piece suite and that 55 inch telly.
God knows what they will think I’m up too. 

We're not worried about that, it's the stripper pole you've had fitted in your lounge. You do know we can see it when you put those disco lights 🚨🚨on at night ?

😊😁

[Handel2020]

Worryingly, you’re sounding like a spokesman for the incel society there. Total and utter bullshit imo. Crap spread by idiotic misogynists to stir up hatred against women, just like that absolute menace locked up in Romania.

And you’ve even contradicted yourself by saying more men not having sex and yet believe it will lead to more punting and yet that doesn’t look good for the punting world. Which one is it??? 

On the last part there is no contradiction and it is simple to understand. The increased demand of more men punting without an increase in supply of more WGs is not a good thing.

On the first part the statistics I mentioned were taken from the "General Social Survey" in the US and were talked about in depth by a psychologist on YouTube. He couldn't reach any other conclusion than that polygamy had to be taking place. External Link/Members Only

[daviemac]

On the last part there is no contradiction and it is simple to understand. The increased demand of more men punting without an increase in supply of more WGs is not a good thing.

On the first part the statistics I mentioned were taken from the "General Social Survey" in the US and were talked about in depth by a psychologist on YouTube. He couldn't reach any other conclusion than that polygamy had to be taking place. External Link/Members Only

You can't compare the USA to the UK, punting here is legal whereas in the vast majority of the US it is illegal.

[billybobsmith]

I wouldn't disbelieve it. A girl I saw last year told me a few years previous she'd had an onlyfans, she only did bikini and lingerie no nudity or hard stuff. Even just with those limited offerings it covered her rent every month (she is ridiculously pretty mind, and would have been 18/19 when she was doing it).

I've mentioned before that I used to visit a free cam site as there were some girl next door types on there.  You could watch for free if the girl made enough in tips, or she would do privates etc. (probably lucrative?) You often didn't need to spend a penny to see some good stuff.  One girl made $1000s in a short period one night whilst just changing her socks (not naked).  50k tip or something like that was the highest one and that much have cost a good 5 figures.

It's possible that a lot of Americans, with limited access to real punting options, use this as the next best thing.  It's pretty much a live version of their porn industry.
A lot over there seem to have large amounts of disposable income.

Some of these OF girls I've seen on Instagram etc., charge $10 or thereabouts a month, and to many, that's what, a couple of coffees?.  20k followers / subscribers, and that's a lot of cash coming in.
Even 100 men subscribing is $1000/month (less what OF take)

[Handel2020]

You can't compare the USA to the UK, punting here is legal whereas in the vast majority of the US it is illegal.

I can compare because legality isn't the issue. There could be an increase in punters without an increase in WGs if the statistics are true across the west and dating apps are behind the trend of less men having sex as many people seem to believe. This would mean sites like OnlyFans and dating apps are having an effect on both supply and demand.

[daviemac]

I can compare because legality isn't the issue. There could be an increase in punters without an increase in WGs if the statistics are true across the west and dating apps are behind the trend of less men having sex as many people seem to believe. This would mean sites like OnlyFans and dating apps are having an effect on both supply and demand.

How on earth can you compare the number of punters in the US to the number in the UK, punting is an illegal activity in the US, it isn't here. 

[Handel2020]

How on earth can you compare the number of punters in the US to the number in the UK, punting is an illegal activity in the US, it isn't here. 

I didn't compare numbers at all. I am stating that in general the effect of online platforms on punting will be the same in both countries. OnlyFans will lead to less of a supply of WGs, and the effect of dating apps will likely lead to more sexless young men punting. The law will not change that.

[CalQueLon]

Not too completly de-rail the the thread/rant but I understand the point too a degree.

 OLD sites and OF have given people who would have taken the SP 'Live' route a different option and with this change there has been less options for people to get physical interaction plus with online platforms it is much easier too vent these frustrations and reach people who may have similar mind sets, just as I was doing with this thread talking about the disconnection from service I was getting Vs price I am paying, but just because I pay money does not mean this is a one way transaction.

 Even though OLD sites and OF hurts the scene alot not just from a talent pool but from a mental health aspect from punters becoming more recluse and have having less options too gain experience it, from the side of a SP, may be better option in terms of safety and money and that would always be the main thing for them.

In the London discussion thread there are people talking about Thai escorts raising prices and what not it is hitting every part of the industry.

 Sp's raising prices and service not being up to standard is not something that we can control other than not paying so if that is best option too not pay then so be it I will just be searching for my own alternative which will be searching for my own VFM P&D's.

[sensualencounter]

Not too completly de-rail the the thread/rant but I understand the point too a degree.

 OLD sites and OF have given people who would have taken the SP 'Live' route a different option and with this change there has been less options for people to get physical interaction plus with online platforms it is much easier too vent these frustrations and reach people who may have similar mind sets, just as I was doing with this thread talking about the disconnection from service I was getting Vs price I am paying, but just because I pay money does not mean this is a one way transaction.

 Even though OLD sites and OF hurts the scene alot not just from a talent pool but from a mental health aspect from punters becoming more recluse and have having less options too gain experience it, from the side of a SP, may be better option in terms of safety and money and that would always be the main thing for them.

In the London discussion thread there are people talking about Thai escorts raising prices and what not it is hitting every part of the industry.

 Sp's raising prices and service not being up to standard is not something that we can control other than not paying so if that is best option too not pay then so be it I will just be searching for my own alternative which will be searching for my own VFM P&D's.

Prices for everything are rising. I needed to change a kitchen appliance and was shocked at how much they’ve gone up. But I need it unless I go down to the river. Or train to be a kitchen appliance engineer / manufacturer and build my own.

There’s not a lot I can do about it and sitting there fuming and moaning about those damn engineers is pointless. I have my choices and I’ll weigh them up and do my research. Being bitter and resentful is just stupid.

But the bigger picture is why are some men bitter and resentful about escorts making money? The entitlement of some punters is incredible. If you can’t afford something that is clearly a luxury and you could do without then why get upset at the escort? Look for an alternative or abstain.

Like these incels sitting at home, anger wanking at the lack of sex they’re getting and blaming the women for themselves being immature, unable to communicate with women, often fat and spotty and bitter and resentful. No wonder women steer well clear of them.

Just a bit of effort on their part would likely reap rewards. They have no one to blame but themselves.

[billybobsmith]

At the end of the day, if escorts start pricing themselves out of the market, then ultimately there will be far less choice.  What remains may or may not be any good regardless of the cost.

At present, quite a few are still doing well without providing any real service.  As long as men will spend £££ on a mediocre time, then they've little to worry about.  Easier to put in half hearted effort than to go all out to try and please a limited number of men who aren't guaranteed to provide you with a steady and reliable income stream.  Probably less tiring lying there, fake moaning and getting the man to cum in 5 mins.
As a few of us have said, it's value more than price.  I don't want to pay £180 for a woman to lie there going "ooh baby, cum for me" 5 seconds after touching her when it's bad enough paying £120 for the same thing.

(I'm sure a lot of men happily paid a premium £40+ to see Man Utd. the other day.  "Great team" with a reputation, history etc. but came out disappointed after they lost a record 7-0)

Quite a few well known and well reviewed women have vanished, or are infrequently popping up these days.  Have they all found the magic cash cow, or now have super paying jobs?

Inflating the egos of 18st+ munters on say dating sites doesn't help.  When you're getting rejected by someone of that description even though you're fairly decent looking, physically ok and have a good job etc., there's something up.
Sometimes men just cannot get in there no matter what they're offering.
 
SA has in some ways been a victim of it's own success.  Lowball offers have, up to a point, reduced the number of non-working girl types on there.
Back when it started, £250-£350 amounts weren't seen as too bad, and girls willingly provided a genuine experience and were happy to spend hours to overnights with you.
When the consistent £150 offers started, yes a few took them, but now most who accept anything near that are AW types who may or may not earn that elsewhere (and may use it as a second avenue for advertising services).
A lot of the prettier, younger woman, know fine they can use social media to show off their bodies and therefore attract men.  Far easier to gain 1000s of followers by teasing, a % of which will pay ££ to see more, than to go through the effort of meeting someone for £150-£300 (for a few hours / evening) and finding riches aren't coming their way.

Sure there are multiple factors why and why not things are happening.  Society changes.

[CalQueLon]

Prices for everything are rising. I needed to change a kitchen appliance and was shocked at how much they’ve gone up. But I need it unless I go down to the river. Or train to be a kitchen appliance engineer / manufacturer and build my own.

There’s not a lot I can do about it and sitting there fuming and moaning about those damn engineers is pointless. I have my choices and I’ll weigh them up and do my research. Being bitter and resentful is just stupid.

But the bigger picture is why are some men bitter and resentful about escorts making money? The entitlement of some punters is incredible. If you can’t afford something that is clearly a luxury and you could do without then why get upset at the escort? Look for an alternative or abstain.

Like these incels sitting at home, anger wanking at the lack of sex they’re getting and blaming the women for themselves being immature, unable to communicate with women, often fat and spotty and bitter and resentful. No wonder women steer well clear of them.

Just a bit of effort on their part would likely reap rewards. They have no one to blame but themselves.

I will agree that there has been 'Incel/Red pill' mindset gaining a foothold in people who with a bit of self reflection on their own lives and how they approach things in a social aspect could use the vitriol and hate in a different way more positive to their own lives if it ends with them being with someone or not life has so many things out there than just relationships/intimacy.

 But the people you described may only have that chance of a changed mindset from experiencing that intimacy, which from SP's is not genuine most of the time, it hard too appreciate yourself sometimes too be relaxed and the best way most people get that is doing that in a social or in this case punting way.

Specking of myself I have spent time just doing other stuff keeping myself busy when I'm not at work and if I never punt as frequently as I have before I will be good but I had almost 10 years too get all this out of me many people have not even started or may need a little or a lot of time or it is just something they just love too do and don't want too give it up.

Those people where do they go if they cannot see any value too it anymore as the poor experience keeps compounding on top of each other and instead of just thing I'm going too get some stress out at the very least you find yourself try too catch the next high as the last one 'just didn't do it for me...

I don't know as one poster has said society is changing.

[tidytuz]

In response to speculation of the rising prices (SPs I punt have hardly raised rates mind you), I've lowered my punting price cap from £150/hr or £80/30mins or £50/15mins to £130 / £70 / £45 respectively.

Reward cheap SPs. Fight fire with fire.

[PilotMan]

In response to speculation of the rising prices (SPs I punt have hardly raised rates mind you), I've lowered my punting price cap from £150/hr or £80/30mins or £50/15mins to £130 / £70 / £45 respectively.

Reward cheap SPs. Fight fire with fire.

Wel done, crack on fella. Someone's got to shag them munters.

I can't believe how little you charge them to fuck them. Those girls are getting a bargain. 

[Munter84]

Wel done, crack on fella. Someone's got to shag them munters.

Bearing in mind my username, I heartily endorse that sentiment!

[datwabbit]

What % of women are doing that? They are probably sharing a hell of a lot of men! 

I believe that men who are willing to pay the most are getting the most attention from women who think they're exclusive and then get pissed off when the guy moves on (because he is willing to spend the most, and therefore does not have to settle).

So a lot of the grief you might pick up about men from women, is because they're unable to equate money=choice.

[timmy1]

Reward cheap SPs. Fight fire with fire.

Im with you on that one, funnily enough one my regulars who ive seen for years and is well priced and hasnt upped her rates in years says in the past 6 months shes been busier than ever

[Handel2020]

In response to speculation of the rising prices (SPs I punt have hardly raised rates mind you), I've lowered my punting price cap from £150/hr or £80/30mins or £50/15mins to £130 / £70 / £45 respectively.

Reward cheap SPs. Fight fire with fire.

I wish you were right but I can't see it working. The law of supply and demand will always have the last laugh.

[chadpitt]

Prices for everything are rising. I needed to change a kitchen appliance and was shocked at how much they’ve gone up. But I need it unless I go down to the river. Or train to be a kitchen appliance engineer / manufacturer and build my own.

There’s not a lot I can do about it and sitting there fuming and moaning about those damn engineers is pointless. I have my choices and I’ll weigh them up and do my research. Being bitter and resentful is just stupid.

But the bigger picture is why are some men bitter and resentful about escorts making money? The entitlement of some punters is incredible. If you can’t afford something that is clearly a luxury and you could do without then why get upset at the escort? Look for an alternative or abstain.

Like these incels sitting at home, anger wanking at the lack of sex they’re getting and blaming the women for themselves being immature, unable to communicate with women, often fat and spotty and bitter and resentful. No wonder women steer well clear of them.

Just a bit of effort on their part would likely reap rewards. They have no one to blame but themselves.

22 reviews and you been punting since 2016. You're just decribing yourself with these low numbers.

[jamiekinkxxx]

22 reviews and you been punting since 2016. You're just decribing yourself with these low numbers.

It's not a numbers game or competition

[big-al93]

22 reviews and you been punting since 2016. You're just decribing yourself with these low numbers.

And what do you know about another members life? Sounds like you would need specific knowledge to make that statement, and a review count, other than if a member doesn't contribute, doesn't tell a story, whether they may be happily married but with differing sex drives, it doesn't tell you how often he punts, as most don't review all meets, either for discretion or more usually return visits.