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Offline Happyjose

you’ve jumped in to bash a service provider.

You seem more inclined to believe her accusations are not true.

I just require evidence before believing a WG making anti punter accusations on here

Any evidence at all........


Offline Lilywhite

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Any working girls I use don’t even safe my name, which I am glad about, never mind keeping text exchanges from 9 months ago.





How exactly would you know this? For safety reasons many never delete numbers, texts, calls, emails as a point of reference.

Offline Greg05

i haven’t check with them all obviously but some have told me what I’m saved under. Others that they don’t know who I am until I turn up as everything is deleted.

Offline Greg05

How exactly would you know this? For safety reasons many never delete numbers, texts, calls, emails as a point of reference.

It may be different in Northern Ireland where the law is different. I don’t know.

Offline kazor13

I absolutely believe her. Some absolute weirdos who are in the punting game.

Offline Happyjose

If you put ‘gullible’ into google today you win a prize

Offline Happyjose

How exactly would you know this? For safety reasons many never delete numbers, texts, calls, emails as a point of reference.

Not wanting to put you on the spot, but potentially a respected WG member like yourself could check out her claim she reported to ugly mugs?

Offline Lilywhite

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Not wanting to put you on the spot, but potentially a respected WG member like yourself could check out her claim she reported to ugly mugs?

I believe (but someone can correct me) that NI and Ireland have a separate one, and I'm not sure how much of a crossover there is between the UK one and the other one, so I would hesitate in being sure. I think this is probably a 'what does your instinct say' situ in the absence of actual proof.

Offline Happyjose

Any working girls I use don’t even safe my name, which I am glad about, never mind keeping text exchanges from 9 months ago.

This is just too funny  :lol:

But it is consistent with your posts so far on this thread
« Last Edit: September 16, 2019, 08:43:29 pm by Happyjose »

Offline kazor13

If you put ‘gullible’ into google today you win a prize
It's probably you who is the naive one in all honesty.


Offline mrfishyfoo

I dunno, there’s a few oxygen thieves running around here so outing them could be a good thing for the rest of us?

What you waiting for then ??  :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

Offline Happyjose

I believe (but someone can correct me) that NI and Ireland have a separate one, and I'm not sure how much of a crossover there is between the UK one and the other one, so I would hesitate in being sure. I think this is probably a 'what does your instinct say' situ in the absence of actual proof.

She could easily provide evidence to a mod to back up her claim

Will be interesting to see her response


Offline belfastpunter

Jamesharddom tortured me to meet him that he’d run me places in return for sex. I think he even put up he met me and I never met him in my life. He said he done the same for a girl called Courtney of locanto. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s others

Then a guy called Belfast punter messaged me on locanto asking gfe I said I could do that nice soft sensual plenty striking touching etc and he then asked me for no condom as it was part of gfe experience I blocked him instantly. This was around December to March but honestly been intimated here to post anything but few other things have happened recently and I think girls need to start speaking out. Iv met some lovely blokes on her I guess it’s just to let u know the like of janes saying he’s met girls he hasn’t even and giving reviews and the Belfast punter guy going on about bare backing when he asked for it himself
Just pointing out this was not me. There was a belfastpunter69 also.

Offline Happyjose

Just pointing out this was not me. There was a belfastpunter69 also.

I wouldn't worry

There are a number of ways she could add some credibility to her claim(s) - phone/text records, AW messages, Ugly Mugs records, etc. These would be handled discreetly by the management.

In my experience genuine folk tend to be only too willing to provide some evidence when they are convinced they are in the right.

Instead she quickly employed the 'you're all men who don't believe a WG/female' tactic (with some success it seems, going by the contributions of 2 members to this thread), and as far as I am aware, has made no attempt to back up anything she has accused UKP members of.

Willing to be proved wrong, but not hopeful

I am curious though as to whether kazor13 and Greg05 had any contact with the OP before or during this thread

Perhaps they would be good enough to come back and let us know?

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« Last Edit: September 17, 2019, 11:32:50 am by Happyjose »

Offline Randall_graves

Personally, I reckon it can only be a good thing to have Sevice Providers on the forum. Helps us punters if they can give us an insight or advice of any kind, but it will also reduce the chances of lads posting bullshit information/reviews.

In Hayleys case on this thread, she only mentioned certain members when prompted. Should it have been sent to admin via PM? Perhaps. But I am quite happy that she is content to call out people making false claims. This site is here to help punters via the exchange of information and reviews, and if forum members are deliberately or unintentionally posting false or misleading info of any kind then that should be set straight for all to see, in my opinion.

Some of us are risking relationships, money and even criminal convictions by visiting WGs, and more often than not this is because of information or a review a fellow punter has posted, so it needs to be 100% accurate.

The attitude she has been replied to with is exactly why we don't have more SPs using the site.

Offline Ali Katt

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Personally, I reckon it can only be a good thing to have Sevice Providers on the forum. Helps us punters if they can give us an insight or advice of any kind, but it will also reduce the chances of lads posting bullshit information/reviews.

In Hayleys case on this thread, she only mentioned certain members when prompted. Should it have been sent to admin via PM? Perhaps. But I am quite happy that she is content to call out people making false claims. This site is here to help punters via the exchange of information and reviews, and if forum members are deliberately or unintentionally posting false or misleading info of any kind then that should be set straight for all to see, in my opinion.

Some of us are risking relationships, money and even criminal convictions by visiting WGs, and more often than not this is because of information or a review a fellow punter has posted, so it needs to be 100% accurate.

The attitude she has been replied to with is exactly why we don't have more SPs using the site.
Total white knighting bollix. She received attitude because she gave attitude. She made unsubstantiated claims with no proof. What if she said Randall Graves posts reviews in exchange for freebies? Pretty serious accusation to make. We have loads of good SPs on site, most just don't post loads of replies because most of the site is irrelevant to them, simple as.

Offline Happyjose

Personally, I reckon it can only be a good thing to have Sevice Providers on the forum. Helps us punters if they can give us an insight or advice of any kind, but it will also reduce the chances of lads posting bullshit information/reviews.

In Hayleys case on this thread, she only mentioned certain members when prompted. Should it have been sent to admin via PM? Perhaps. But I am quite happy that she is content to call out people making false claims. This site is here to help punters via the exchange of information and reviews, and if forum members are deliberately or unintentionally posting false or misleading info of any kind then that should be set straight for all to see, in my opinion.

Some of us are risking relationships, money and even criminal convictions by visiting WGs, and more often than not this is because of information or a review a fellow punter has posted, so it needs to be 100% accurate.

The attitude she has been replied to with is exactly why we don't have more SPs using the site.

Well of course, this is not a site for SP's, it's a site for punters. There's another site which is better suited to that

and how would you suggest malicious allegations made by prostitutes against punters should be dealt with?

asking for evidence of allegations doesn't sound unreasonable, does it?

Or do you imagine that kind of thing never happens  :rolleyes:


Offline Curious-1

Personally, I reckon it can only be a good thing to have Sevice Providers on the forum. Helps us punters if they can give us an insight or advice of any kind, but it will also reduce the chances of lads posting bullshit information/reviews.

In Hayleys case on this thread, she only mentioned certain members when prompted. Should it have been sent to admin via PM? Perhaps. But I am quite happy that she is content to call out people making false claims. This site is here to help punters via the exchange of information and reviews, and if forum members are deliberately or unintentionally posting false or misleading info of any kind then that should be set straight for all to see, in my opinion.

Some of us are risking relationships, money and even criminal convictions by visiting WGs, and more often than not this is because of information or a review a fellow punter has posted, so it needs to be 100% accurate.

The attitude she has been replied to with is exactly why we don't have more SPs using the site.

Agree here, this is just like reading reviews and other posts from punters, you read a them, have a look at what the poster tends to write on here and then make up your mind whether or not they are credible.  Surely there is no one on here that believes every post from every person! :scare:



I do have a bit of concern, and am not sure how she is learning to be better at her job from her posts to date, but time will tell, and until then I wish her luck.

Offline belfastpunter

I came across her on the UKE forum, posting about 6 months ago about tours and such. I thought her quite niave and genuine. Cant recheck the post, as i am sure someone will fact check me,because they closed all accounts and asked me to re-reguster. Everyone needs to learn how to post on here without causing offence.

This is all a bit of a storm in a tea cup, maybe im missing something.

ps. as for for my opinion I am not so keen on SP using forum. reviews and such are a lot more glossed over if you know your escort is watching. However better to allow in with SP flag, than have them sneak in pretending to be punters. Quote "someone told tigerthingy i posted negative review and no im blocked", bollocks, there listening.

Offline Greg05

I wouldn't worry

There are a number of ways she could add some credibility to her claim(s) - phone/text records, AW messages, Ugly Mugs records, etc. These would be handled discreetly by the management.

In my experience genuine folk tend to be only too willing to provide some evidence when they are convinced they are in the right.

Instead she quickly employed the 'you're all men who don't believe a WG/female' tactic (with some success it seems, going by the contributions of 2 members to this thread), and as far as I am aware, has made no attempt to back up anything she has accused UKP members of.

Willing to be proved wrong, but not hopeful

I am curious though as to whether kazor13 and Greg05 had any contact with the OP before or during this thread

Perhaps they would be good enough to come back and let us know?

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Have had no contact with her other than on this thread. Have seen others post about her in other threads though.

Offline Greg05

Total white knighting bollix. She received attitude because she gave attitude. She made unsubstantiated claims with no proof. What if she said Randall Graves posts reviews in exchange for freebies? Pretty serious accusation to make. We have loads of good SPs on site, most just don't post loads of replies because most of the site is irrelevant to them, simple as.

How is that white knighting?

Offline Greg05

I came across her on the UKE forum, posting about 6 months ago about tours and such. I thought her quite niave and genuine. Cant recheck the post, as i am sure someone will fact check me,because they closed all accounts and asked me to re-reguster. Everyone needs to learn how to post on here without causing offence.

This is all a bit of a storm in a tea cup, maybe im missing something.

ps. as for for my opinion I am not so keen on SP using forum. reviews and such are a lot more glossed over if you know your escort is watching. However better to allow in with SP flag, than have them sneak in pretending to be punters. Quote "someone told tigerthingy i posted negative review and no im blocked", bollocks, there listening.

Don’t post immediately after the punt. Don’t be an idiot like me and have your name the same on both. Change a minor detail or two here and there. Nothing so large as to effect the review or help others.

Offline Greg05

I haven’t defended them

I have no idea if the accusations are true or not

I see this as potential mischief against the site, and the more the OP posts the more inclined I am to believe this

However, you were quite quick to see fellow punters named here, and seem to have a problem with several, given your oxygen thief comment?

You had a run in with belfastpunter69 and called him an oxygen thief yourself...

Offline Greg05

I feel the thousand post plus brigade from GB don’t quite appreciate how the game is slightly different and nervy over here.

Punting over here is illegal. It’s the punters who get punished not the girl.

We have to be careful or we should.

It was raised in a post months ago here what would you do if you thought the girl you were with was trafficked? Calling the police seemed a dangerous option.

Seems to me more danger that it’s worth too letting a single punter go around getting freebies and trying to go bareback with who knows what passed onto the girl. That gains unwanted attention whether police or press. The Sunday tabloids are fond of the odd stick here being the religious backwater that it is.

This is a forum for all punters not just the one so yeah I get where Jose is coming from that punters should support fellow punters but we shouldn’t blindly support either.

Belfastpunter has had his chance of reply and sounds plausible enough to me. Sounds more likely to be belfastpunter69 if anybody from here.

I don’t mind WGs here as long as they follow the rules and be ridiculous hunting for business. I wouldn’t want it too heavily weighed in their favour as the review sections in AW and EI already are.

I’ve seen in the review sections in Scotland some WGs come on and defend themselves and either come across truthfully and the punter is at fault or as absolute mad cows which supports the punter. There are usually three sides to each story.

But back to the WG on this one, something prompted post this but it will be interesting to see if she stays.

Inked_Hayley

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The fact is I didn’t come on here to spin lies Iv had run ins  dodgy characters not even on UKP. I do as many working girls do nosey on here from time to time. You having your reviews or opinions doesn’t bother me we are all entitled to that. I saw the guy I’m talking about post again and it took me ages to muster up the courage to post about it as he was going on about Courtney locanto he even told me he was shagging her for good n positive remarks about her to be posted here. I declined his offer he kept on and on. Athe time I was only doing outcalls so he used that as a way to try lure me in I’ll give u lifts and u can fuck me snd il give u a good review. I can’t access the messages as the are old and locanto denies access to them I do have his locanto user name which in convo he then told me his name Jamesharddom here. A while back he then messsged on locanto again and I told him I wasn’t interested yet again. He even sent me pics of him to show how he was in shape and it be worth my while. I declined again. Why am I putting it here well as I said I saw him post again n it took me all my might to post it as I know SP can get backlash. If you all want to be sucked into reviews by someone who is basically only giving a review cos he’s getting a fuck out of it and running the girl places that’s up to you. I won’t keep defending myself iv nothing to defend. All punters like I say have rights to opinions on girls not everyone is for everyone but if I’m being shot down for trying to warn punters off which some of you I have seen (they know who they are and that I’m genuine) if the rest don’t want a heads up warning on maybe a potentially trafficked girl or pimp then that’s up to you. That’s all I’m saying on the subject anymore. Good luck with your punting

Inked_Hayley

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Ow and this was in Belfast Northern Ireland as I see some questioning where it happened I haven’t had a chance to read whole thread

James999

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Hayley, don't you think that by your age you should of grown out of this pathetic type of behaviour,  you seem to be acting like a dumb chav who's had one to many white lightening and started to blame everyone else.


Inked_Hayley

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Grown up of warning of potential traffickers or girls being used for sex in exchange for reviews? which could of been shit sex but amped up for a good review on here for you then to think great I’ll have her maybe waste money .... ok I’ll grow up then

Offline Randall_graves

Total white knighting bollix. She received attitude because she gave attitude.

Not true. Check back, Happyjose was straight on her suggesting she was only here to cause a shitstorm. It has most definitely been a shitstorm, but of his creation. She was stating the reason she joined and saying thanks for allowing her to be here before he joined the conversation.

White knighting bollix? Absolutely not. I am just of the opinion that it benefits us if the SPs have an input too.

She made unsubstantiated claims with no proof.

Not disputing that, she hasn't provided proof but that doesn't mean she isn't telling the truth.

and how would you suggest malicious allegations made by prostitutes against punters should be dealt with?
Seriously. And by that I mean given proper consideration instead of being dismissed as bullshit right off the bat simply because it came from an SP.

asking for evidence of allegations doesn't sound unreasonable, does it?

Doesn't sound unreasonable at all. What is unreasonable is immediately jumping on any response which doesn't align with your own opinion.

Offline Happyjose

You had a run in with belfastpunter69 and called him an oxygen thief yourself...

I don’t make oblique references to other punters without naming who I have a problem with

So not the same thing

Offline Happyjose

Doesn't sound unreasonable at all. What is unreasonable is immediately jumping on any response which doesn't align with your own opinion.

If by not aligning with my opinion, you mean my requirement that there is some evidence to back up serious claims, then guilty as charged

Still no evidence though, just excuses from the OP, and a worrying trend for punters on this board to be willing to condemn their fellow punters despite the lack of anything to support this.

And no acknowledgement or comment to reply #34, which was posted by a sceptical WG

But I guess that doesn’t suit the narrative here

Have some self respect chaps

Offline Happyjose

I feel the thousand post plus brigade from GB don’t quite appreciate how the game is slightly different and nervy over here.
Punting over here is illegal. It’s the punters who get punished not the girl.
We have to be careful or we should.

This was actually on my mind earlier

If the posts from local punters are representative, then there does seem to be a generally different attitude towards WG’s here

Maybe that’s inevitable given the punting environment, you already have to trust the other party more than we do
« Last Edit: September 17, 2019, 07:03:23 pm by Happyjose »

Offline finn5555

Iv plenty of regulars I don’t need to be malicious just simply spreading awareness about what is a dodgy game to begin with.

If you have plenty of regulars why the fuck are you on here then  :dash:

Offline kazor13

I wouldn't worry

There are a number of ways she could add some credibility to her claim(s) - phone/text records, AW messages, Ugly Mugs records, etc. These would be handled discreetly by the management.

In my experience genuine folk tend to be only too willing to provide some evidence when they are convinced they are in the right.

Instead she quickly employed the 'you're all men who don't believe a WG/female' tactic (with some success it seems, going by the contributions of 2 members to this thread), and as far as I am aware, has made no attempt to back up anything she has accused UKP members of.

Willing to be proved wrong, but not hopeful

I am curious though as to whether kazor13 and Greg05 had any contact with the OP before or during this thread

Perhaps they would be good enough to come back and let us know?

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No. You sound paranoid Jose and frankly come across terribly on this thread. Do I believe what she is saying is true. Yes I do. Given my experience as a punter and the weirdos/psychopaths who do harass sex workers then these claims are hardly outlandish. A weirdo trying everything he can to get his end away for free shocker. It can't possibly be true. :rolleyes:

Inked_Hayley

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If you have plenty of regulars why the fuck are you on here then  :dash:


Really are u really gonna be idiotic asking that ?.... suppose there always has to be one

James999

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Really are u really gonna be idiotic asking that ?.... suppose there always has to be one

You seem to have a habit of calling people idiots, have you ever thought it could be you that's you not them, don't blame people just because they can see straight through your bullshit  :thumbsdown:

Offline Happyjose

No. You sound paranoid Jose and frankly come across terribly on this thread. Do I believe what she is saying is true. Yes I do. Given my experience as a punter and the weirdos/psychopaths who do harass sex workers then these claims are hardly outlandish. A weirdo trying everything he can to get his end away for free shocker. It can't possibly be true. :rolleyes:

I refer to reply #60

Inked_Hayley

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If you have plenty of regulars why the fuck are you on here then  :dash:

Hey we go explaining again to punters that think we are revolving doors. I see max 4 a day 5 at a lush on the days I want to work . I set my work days when I want to. If I want to knock of early cos iv hadca busy burning I’ll do it. The amount of regulars I have has infect zero correlation to what I am trying to tell you about your fellow posters. If you want to be brave Alf come up with these petty and let’s fsce it silly statements that’s down to you. I know my business better than you ever could .

Inked_Hayley

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You seem to have a habit of calling people idiots, have you ever thought it could be you that's you not them, don't blame people just because they can see straight through your bullshit  :thumbsdown:

James I don’t mean any harm at all and I’m sure your probably a really nice guy in real life but I refuse to engage in the keyboard warrior your coming across as being on here. Good luck in your endeavours

Inked_Hayley

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I’m in the process  of trying to unblock the chat as it’s aechived I can’t believe I’m trying to prove a group of punters wrong. It won’t acceot PayPal I’m reluctant to put in card details but I’ll try in morning again to get this so called holy grail proof. Would love to know why the person in quetuin is being so damn quiet on the subject

Ow and while I’m feeling generous there’s a few guys on twitter posing as as escorts looking meets and scamming I do have names I do have the account holders names. It’s no one here I’m aware of but this guy had profiles on adult work too and girls working for him at one point. How do I know cos I got caught up in his web of lies and by pure chance found out but here I suppose you wouldn’t want to know that that certain escorts or twitter accounts are men and even some serious accounts are even answering their own phone their driver/pimp doing it but sure what do I know was only told from the horses mouth but yea don’t believe me as SP always full of shit aren’t they.

Inked_Hayley

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I do not give a toss what men do in relationships or out but being shot down for trying to help don’t worry if I get the chat unblocked there be plenty details and photos of him n his knob trying to persuade me in full glory to fuck him for reviews and lifts

Offline finn5555

Hey we go explaining again to punters that think we are revolving doors. I see max 4 a day 5 at a lush on the days I want to work . I set my work days when I want to. If I want to knock of early cos iv hadca busy burning I’ll do it. The amount of regulars I have has infect zero correlation to what I am trying to tell you about your fellow posters. If you want to be brave Alf come up with these petty and let’s fsce it silly statements that’s down to you. I know my business better than you ever could .

When you substantiate your claims then I will apologise but let’s be honest you can’t or you would have done so by now.

Regarding regulars that may purely be your fantasy and what you wish for  :hi:  I know it can get tiresome fucking every Tom Dick and Abdul  :rolleyes:

James999

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James I don’t mean any harm at all and I’m sure your probably a really nice guy in real life but I refuse to engage in the keyboard warrior your coming across as being on here. Good luck in your endeavours

You are full of excuses, and yet again you blame others for calling out your bullshit  :dash:

Offline finn5555

as SP always full of shit aren’t they.

99.9% are after all they lie for a living and soon forget what’s the truth and what’s fantasy  :rolleyes:

You’re here (well not on UKP) to sell a dream and to make punters feel good and give a decent honest service so you should focus on that rather than spouting shit  :hi:

James999

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She comes across as a serious man hater, seriously bitter and well past her sell by date  :manhater:

Inked_Hayley

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99.9% are after all they lie for a living and soon forget what’s the truth and what’s fantasy  :rolleyes:

You’re here (well not on UKP) to sell a dream and to make punters feel good and give a decent honest service so you should focus on that rather than spouting shit  :hi:

I have messaged locanto as this was ok there not aw. Chat after so long on locanto which he seems to prey on see Courtney locanto stop access to the chat for so long unless u pay. I tried to pay and it’s coming up vault I have screen shot if this I also have screen shot of me mailing locanto to try to see what the problem is and to Recife I’m free to share these screen shots. If ur all wanting to side with him simply because he’s a punyercdo be it but wait I’ll probably be scrutinised again for saying that. I’m no man hater far from me what I do hate are men that take advantage of woman. It might take a while I’ll keep trying for access Bell I can even give u his real name but I wouldn’t do that. Until the believe what u will I only informed you for your own safety if you find that malicious or man hating in any way you live in a messed up world. Not ever punter is an asshole and not ever working girl is a money grabbing lying slag. Enough said by me I won’t lower myself anymore when I get proof I’ll be back posting it.

But hey in a happy note Thankyou to all of you that messaged me and have been so courteous it gives me hope for the mae race after this escapade

Offline mrfishyfoo

I do not give a toss what men do in relationships or out but being shot down for trying to help don’t worry if I get the chat unblocked there be plenty details and photos of him n his knob trying to persuade me in full glory to fuck him for reviews and lifts

We don't only grill punters on here !!!

Suggest you read this.  :hi: :hi:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=256364.0


Offline finn5555

I have messaged locanto as this was ok there not aw. Chat after so long on locanto which he seems to prey on see Courtney locanto stop access to the chat for so long unless u pay. I tried to pay and it’s coming up vault I have screen shot if this I also have screen shot of me mailing locanto to try to see what the problem is and to Recife I’m free to share these screen shots. If ur all wanting to side with him simply because he’s a punyercdo be it but wait I’ll probably be scrutinised again for saying that. I’m no man hater far from me what I do hate are men that take advantage of woman. It might take a while I’ll keep trying for access Bell I can even give u his real name but I wouldn’t do that. Until the believe what u will I only informed you for your own safety if you find that malicious or man hating in any way you live in a messed up world. Not ever punter is an asshole and not ever working girl is a money grabbing lying slag. Enough said by me I won’t lower myself anymore when I get proof I’ll be back posting it.

But hey in a happy note Thankyou to all of you that messaged me and have been so courteous it gives me hope for the mae race after this escapade

Can you write that in English and use a dictionary I gave up half way its an illiterate pile of shite  :dash:

Offline kazor13

I refer to reply #60
So what? I have literally seen a video on Twitter posted by a well known Escort working in Belfast of a punter acting like a fucking lunatic ranting and raving outside her apartment while she films it across the street. So from what I gathered from the information from the OP sounds perfectly legit to me. I don't see any outlandish accusations here at all. Some lunatic trying his best to get free sex is the crux of it.