Ever paid a civvie for fun

[Citybased]

Just wondered if any of you have persuaded a civvie to take cash or other gifts for favours?

[Justanotheruser]

Yes, via craigslist when advertising for a pa which I clearly don't need. Some had more of an idea what I was really looking for than others.

I would say seeking arrangement too but that doesn't really count in my mind as they know full well the deal when they sign up.

[badsin]

Just wondered if any of you have persuaded a civvie to take cash or other gifts for favours?

Ever placed a review??

[Kingy28]

Ever placed a review??

3 years on here 

[munterhunter]

Just wondered if any of you have persuaded a civvie to take cash or other gifts for favours?

Yes I bought my ex wife a house a car and a fuckin boob job as part of our divorce settlement...and she didn't need any persuading!!!

[magnetico]

boob job as a divorce settlement? Really?

[hungrypunt]

Just wondered if any of you have persuaded a civvie to take cash or other gifts for favours?

loads of times, every time ive been out a bought the drinks or taxi for the girls

[misterali]

boob job as a divorce settlement? Really?

It sounds fair in her mind. A boob job would make her feel more attractive and possibly attract attention from other men post divorce.

[munterhunter]

boob job as a divorce settlement? Really?

Yep she used part of the settlement to have them done as well as buying a new car.

[king tarzan]

I offered but she said no.
Said I should of wined and dined her first.
Couldn't be bothered.
So left it

[catweazle]

Once. I was working in Edinburgh and picked up a civvy in a bar on Rose Street. Said things were bad for her at home and she needed a bed for the night.

Snuck her into my hotel and shagged her all night. Felt sorry for her after hearing her tale of woe and offered her some money. She refused - several times - but l slipped a twenty into her coat pocket without her noticing.

[Gordon Bennett]

boob job as a divorce settlement? Really?

Reminds me of skit on Spitting Image donkeys years ago about the divorce of Sly Stallone and Brigitte Neilson where he's in court demanding access to the fake boobs he paid for every other Saturday...... made I laugh anyway!

[nothiingtodeclare]

Only if you count first date fun!

[Gomez42]

I've done about ten civvie meets over fifteen years, at least two have gone on to escort. Most have been one-off meets, but a couple have led to more encounters.

Since Craigslist has stopped, I'm not really sure how to go about it now.

[Derrick101]

I wouldn't pay a civvie for sex, let alone for fun

[Naidakhan84]

Interesting idea. Not done it. I think it would be too much effort and could get ugly if she said no, or even if she said yes and then wanted more.

Always better to pay up front.

[FunfortimFunfortim]

Does dinner, drinks and a show count?

[381stBG]

Jack Shepherd went on a first date, paid £150 for dinner, copious amounts of champagne, took her on his speedboat in the middle of the night down the river Thames and it somehow turned over. Poor girl died.
He’ll be paying a high price..

Big Guy

[nodrah]

Just wondered if any of you have persuaded a civvie to take cash or other gifts for favours?

It would be my contention that once the ' lady ' agreed to accept cash in return for ' favours ' she could no longer be classified as a civvie … so your question should have been ' have any of you persuaded a civvie to become a WG '.

[cash2spare]

I know of a young lass of 20 who has told me she needs money to pay her rent etc.
She's got a nice face, decent pair of tits and I reckon she'd give a nice blow job too.
Am pondering how to ask her without losing our friendship, maybe if I say it in a joking way or tell her a mate of mine once met a lady with similar problems and gave her cash for sexual favours, see what she says.
At least I won't be asking her direct, will keep you posted.

[Dweeby]

Just wondered if any of you have persuaded a civvie to take cash or other gifts for favours?

I think that it could be a really good scenario! For me, most w/g's are a bit cynical. They've seen it all before, and you're just one guy amongst a whole bunch of others. Many are more interested in your cash, than giving you a good experience. But, with a civvie just needing a few quid now and again, it could be quite different.

But, I don't know how you would get yourself into that arrangement!

[Private Parts]

“But, I don't know how you would get yourself into that arrangement!“

It’s not getting into it that’s the problem.
It’s the getting out!
Just saying
PP

[Dweeby]

It’s not getting into it that’s the problem.
It’s the getting out!
Just saying
PP

Quite right, of course! Which is why we all punt in the first place!

[Saeran]

I know of a young lass of 20 who has told me she needs money to pay her rent etc.
She's got a nice face, decent pair of tits and I reckon she'd give a nice blow job too.
Am pondering how to ask her without losing our friendship, maybe if I say it in a joking way or tell her a mate of mine once met a lady with similar problems and gave her cash for sexual favours, see what she says.
At least I won't be asking her direct, will keep you posted.

Personally I think that verges on exploitation and imo is borderline illegal, but it's your decision.

[wilson1962]

Many years ago City Sauna in Sheffield was called a french name, forget what it was? I went in and was told only one girl working and she was upstairs. I sat in the waiting area and a few mins later a good looking blonde came through but was dressed in jeans and a tee shirt. She went back upstairs and I told the receptionist that I would see her. "oh no, she the cleaner" was the reply. Seems the SP was busy. Receptionist went upstairs. When she came down I was told that If I didn't want anything out of the ordinary she would see me!! So I happily fucked the cleaner, she was nervous to start with and told me it was the first time she had done it for money. I remember she was very good in the room and I think she would have made a lot of money if she turned pro. Never saw her again but it was an odd meeting.

[Autopunter]

Yes, via craigslist when advertising for a pa which I clearly don't need. Some had more of an idea what I was really looking for than others.

I would say seeking arrangement too but that doesn't really count in my mind as they know full well the deal when they sign up.

Now that sounds like some interesting stories. How many did you meet who went through with it in the end? Nowadays, as you say, they'd probably just end up on some sort of sugar daddy dating site.

[Tricky Dickie]

Personally I think that verges on exploitation and imo is borderline illegal, but it's your decision.

It may be many things but illegal it is not - “borderline” or otherwise. How can it possibly be illegal to ask another adult, over whom you have no position of trust, if they’d like to do something legal for money?

[Punterenas]

Was in the cafe on Bournemouth pier many moons ago when I overheard the waitress at the next table trying to talk a pensioner into giving her £300 to "repair her roof", she kind of implied he would get lucky but he wasn't having it. I did wonder if this was a regular thing with her. Went back a few weeks later in the hope she would try it on with me (This was in my pre punting days) but she had moved on. I'm guessing she didn't really count as a civvie but i'm sure if you asked her she would insist she was not a sex worker.

[Saeran]

It may be many things but illegal it is not - “borderline” or otherwise. How can it possibly be illegal to ask another adult, over whom you have no position of trust, if they’d like to do something legal for money?

"The CPS charging practice is to tackle those who recruit others into prostitution for their own gain or someone else’s, by charging offences of causing, inciting or controlling prostitution for gain, or trafficking for sexual exploitation"

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Bold part the important issue. I am comparing it to the stories of people who offer reduced rent for services from the tenant, which is definitely an offence. What this guy mentioned seems very close to the line. But hey, I'm no lawyer 

[LLPunting]

"The CPS charging practice is to tackle those who recruit others into prostitution for their own gain or someone else’s, by charging offences of causing, inciting or controlling prostitution for gain, or trafficking for sexual exploitation"

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Bold part the important issue. I am comparing it to the stories of people who offer reduced rent for services from the tenant, which is definitely an offence. What this guy mentioned seems very close to the line. But hey, I'm no lawyer 

Bollocks, by your inference all punters are already criminals then.  Or better still every marriage where one partner contributes more materially or financially than the other would be a criminal offence if sex were involved.
"Gain" is material gain through the selling of an SP's services to other persons.
When 2 people fuck and money changes hands that is legal.  The offer is made by one party and accepted by the other.

[Saeran]

Bollocks, by your inference all punters are already criminals then.  Or better still every marriage where one partner contributes more materially or financially than the other would be a criminal offence if sex were involved.
"Gain" is material gain through the selling of an SP's services to other persons.
When 2 people fuck and money changes hands that is legal.  The offer is made by one party and accepted by the other.

Read the last bit that I wrote. It was even on TV about this issue. That wasn't a 'material' gain. As you so succinctly put it two people exchanging money for sex isn't illegal the point being that the service provider has already previously decided to engage in prostitution. Look I'm not arguing semantics here it's purely my opinion. Let's just agree to disagree

[LLPunting]

My bad, (absurdly) it is technically illegal for him to suggest she could make money (from him at least) in return for sexual favours.  If he asked what she was willing to do for money and which of her options would earn the most money and she in turn said she'd be willing to sell sexual favours for at least x amount, perhaps that might be sufficient to escape prosecution.  Provided he wasn't the sole provider of a necessity to her then prosecution would be tenuous on incitement.  You could otherwise argue that media coverage and social media commentary about such arrangements/options were also incitement and therefore prosecutable.

 

[joe diddley]

My OH worked in a care home during the early years of her working life. One of her colleagues used to give some of the old boys HR for a fiver. She was turning into a drug addict, it turned out, and my OH (who left after a few months) later found out that she'd committed suicide. Very sad.

[unus669]

Sex is never free

I did match someone on a well known  dating app recently and she did request payment for sex and they say love is dead don’t they

[blackburnian]

I know of a young lass of 20 who has told me she needs money to pay her rent etc.
She's got a nice face, decent pair of tits and I reckon she'd give a nice blow job too.
Am pondering how to ask her without losing our friendship, maybe if I say it in a joking way or tell her a mate of mine once met a lady with similar problems and gave her cash for sexual favours, see what she says.
At least I won't be asking her direct, will keep you posted.

I’d be well and truly sniffing around that one - bit less dodgy way of broaching the subject- has she thought of getting a sugar daddy or similar- and you’ve been thinking of becoming one......??

Same shit - sex for cash but in a birds eyes it’s miles different from escorting or being a prossie.

Bb

[thekidah01]

I know of a young lass of 20 who has told me she needs money to pay her rent etc.
She's got a nice face, decent pair of tits and I reckon she'd give a nice blow job too.
Am pondering how to ask her without losing our friendship, maybe if I say it in a joking way or tell her a mate of mine once met a lady with similar problems and gave her cash for sexual favours, see what she says.
At least I won't be asking her direct, will keep you posted.

Definitely let us know how this works out for you mate. 

[BP]

Many moons ago there was faceparty

What a fucking site that was!!

Shagged loads off there for £40/£50 a time - some right FAF birds too!  (as well as the occasional munter)

Then they dropped all members above 30y.  To say I was gutted would be the understatement of the century.

I've tried it on PoF but you get reported too quick and the signing up process for a new account takes too long.

Still see one on Farcebook I used to shag regularly...she stopped when she got married.   Another lowlight in my life.

I thought it would get easier as the internet evolved...but its harder if anything now.  Maybe I'm just not as savvy

[sparkus]

My OH worked in a care home during the early years of her working life. One of her colleagues used to give some of the old boys HR for a fiver. She was turning into a drug addict, it turned out, and my OH (who left after a few months) later found out that she'd committed suicide. Very sad.

I'm guessing this happens a fair bit.

There's a section in an Irvine Welsh novel where someone does it for free out of pity.

[sparkus]

Sex is never free

I did match someone on a well known  dating app recently and she did request payment for sex and they say love is dead don’t they

Never had a demand for cash on dating apps. Found the whole thing time intensive anyway, you're competing against lots of other blokes so you need to at least pretend to be interested in them otherwise. I did get some good BJs and one al fresco shag, but the women were not ones you'd take home to mother.

[sparkus]

Surely if you pay a civvie for sex she's then a WG?

Many years ago, as a teen, I was looked after briefly by a well off couple and their not particularly attractive housekeeper did get into bed with me one night and carnal knowledge was exchanged. She asked for cash afterwards and I said I wouldn't have gone through with it if I'd known and she said the husband there always paid her! Come to think of it this almost counts as my first punt, damn.

Again, a decade or so ago, I was training in the Midlands and stayed at a B and B. The owner propositions me one night and I thought why not, again she said afterwards it wasn't free but optional tip. She said construction workers staying always tipped her well and she'd even been spitroasted by two (fortunately there was only me there). Middle aged swinger type bird.

Come to think of it, in the sharing economy and Airbnb there's surely more potential for this sort of on the game work for them?

[Autopunter]

Surely if you pay a civvie for sex she's then a WG?

Many years ago, as a teen, I was looked after briefly by a well off couple and their not particularly attractive housekeeper did get into bed with me one night and carnal knowledge was exchanged. She asked for cash afterwards and I said I wouldn't have gone through with it if I'd known and she said the husband there always paid her! Come to think of it this almost counts as my first punt, damn.

Again, a decade or so ago, I was training in the Midlands and stayed at a B and B. The owner propositions me one night and I thought why not, again she said afterwards it wasn't free but optional tip. She said construction workers staying always tipped her well and she'd even been spitroasted by two (fortunately there was only me there). Middle aged swinger type bird.

Come to think of it, in the sharing economy and Airbnb there's surely more potential for this sort of on the game work for them?

I think you can make the case for there being people in half-way states, like toyboys or trophy wives; Richard Gere's having a kid at 68 with some 35 Spanish ex-model for God's sake - you can't tell me that's not a partnership with a bit of a business arrangement baked into it. I also seem to remember how Maggie McNeill of the Honest Courtesan blog has an interesting post somewhere about her winding path to becoming an escort, including how she became known for her err, compensated dating practices among horny students whilst at university (definitely used to be one of my favourite blog writers back in the day, though I haven't read her much lately).

I do think most people would like to meet the sort-of-maybe-on-occasion amateur/impromptu sex sellers more often, if only because it fulfills the common porn-type fantasy of just being able to bang some random cute woman you just ran into in your everyday life, hence the popularity of all those "sex with [insert job title here]" porn videos out there.

Anyway, I've clearly been going to the wrong bed and breakfasts etc, as I've yet to have any maid/barista/land lady etc etc spontaneously imply there could ever anything more than a strictly professional relationship between us    . I'd quite enjoy my MILF swingers if it was only a matter of getting them off a few times and bunging them £50 the next morning before going down for breakfast. Sounds like a good way to spend a weekend!

[peter.witless]

I'm guessing this happens a fair bit.

There's a section in an Irvine Welsh novel where someone does it for free out of pity.

Haven't read that one, but in John Irving's The World According to Garp ... Garp's mother does exactly that ... and then shags the semi-comatose guy and Garp is the result ...

[sparkus]

Haven't read that one, but in John Irving's The World According to Garp ... Garp's mother does exactly that ... and then shags the semi-comatose guy and Garp is the result ...

Not read but isn't there a teeth/BJ angle to the book?

[wristjob]

IMO if you pay a stranger to have sex they aren't a civvie, it's just really the same as any punt with a WG.

For it to really count it has to be somebody it would have to be somebody you have a preexisting non-sexual relationship with and for whatever reason it then happens. Certainly the OPs case matches this but it could be anything, barmaid, girl in the newsagent or whatever.

[sparkus]

IMO if you pay a stranger to have sex they aren't a civvie, it's just really the same as any punt with a WG.

For it to really count it has to be somebody it would have to be somebody you have a preexisting non-sexual relationship with and for whatever reason it then happens. Certainly the OPs case matches this but it could be anything, barmaid, girl in the newsagent or whatever.

I said so above. I suppose if she did it as a one off when the opportunity arose then she wouldn't be a WG.

[mrdiamond77]

Pay a civvie for sex?   

No!

[sparkus]

I suppose the big turn on for me would be to get a civvie (probably in some subaltern trade like hotel maid etc.) to provide sexual favours of some sort, but as most women don't respond well to "Fancy a fuck?" from strangers, there's a calculation that the offer of cash would provide motivation to consider it.

As this topic is spread across several similar threads, one guy mentioned that a catering staff in some out in the sticks hotel suggested to him she could come back to his room etc. for cash.  Not had the pleasure myself, but I did mention in another a MILFY/GILFY B&B owner in the Midlands who propositioned me one night and suggested afterwards I might want to see her right for cash etc.

So this isn't really as simple as just propositioning women for cash, there's got to the mutual opportunity, their pecuniary motivation and the right premises.

[peter.witless]

Not read but isn't there a teeth/BJ angle to the book?

Sorry, I was about 16 when I read it ... many moons ago ... I just remember it was one WEIRD book. ... someone gets his eye poked out with a gear-stick because the driver was having a BJ when he should have been looking at the road ... but i may have the details a bit skewed.

[Rockhead]

For it to really count it would have to be somebody you have a preexisting non-sexual relationship with and for whatever reason it then happens.

This is exactly the scenario I'm enjoying at present. It's the reason I've stopped punting - well, for now at least. I've been friends with the lady in question for around 5 years - neither of us have ties which makes it easier - and given that she's constantly short of money it was actually her idea. She'd spoken to a friend who'd had some success on Seeking Arrangements and was intrigued by the concept but didn't want to actually do anything with a stranger. So she broached the idea to me as I've never made it a secret that I fancy her. I had to gently talk her down from her initially ludicrous financial expectations, but now we have something in place, mostly using hotel day rooms or occasionally each other's houses. So far I'm really enjoying it; ticks all my boxes for now.

[Heph]

Personally I think that verges on exploitation and imo is borderline illegal, but it's your decision.

Where is the borderline illegality IYO?

(update: I hadn't seen your subsequent run-ins with others before I posted the line above - I have now).