Sugar Babies
Shemales

Author Topic: Why do Mumsnet have such contempt for this site?  (Read 11368 times)

Offline RandomGuy99

I’m starting to wonder if you are also a SP 🤔😀
Rumbled me. Ssshhh!!!

Offline Lou2019

  • Service Provider
  • Posts: 533
  • Likes: 55
You forgot to mention the tax benefits v/v you don't pay any but must claim on UKP you declare everything like your peers  :D :D :D

You are so predictable and droll finn5555 🥱

Online finn5555

You are so predictable and droll finn5555 🥱

 :D :D try harder next time Lou



Online finn5555

Is pretty funny how much contempt Mumsnet have for this site.

What do people think is main reason for this? Just jealous women over the hill that don't like it that their men have better options than them.

Unfortunately, there is a stigma that punters are undesirable men that can't get female attention. However, this is not true in most cases. A lot of men that visit escorts are above average in attractiveness.

There are also well known celebrities like Colin Farrell that are famous and good looking who are known to frequent working girls.

So gurds have we collectively answered your question now  :unknown:

Offline jonesfromthere

This thread may have overtaken "Do ginger pussies taste different?" as my favorite.

Offline Vice Admiral

This idea that men who pay for sex are disgusting is outdated in my view.  Even the king of France many years ago King Louis was known for this.

Which King Louis of France?  There were 19, over the course of a thousand years – starting with Louis the Pious (who died in 840) and ending with Louis XIX (who reigned for just 20 minutes, and died in 1844).

In any case, kings didn't "pay for sex"  They had mistresses – who were often treated with lavish generosity, but would have bridled at the notion that they were on the game.

It’s true that our King Edward VII visited brothels in Paris, but I think only when he was Prince of Wales.

Offline MrMohican

It amazes me the difference in perceptions going on here. A lot of guys commenting on here are saying that women are jealous or insecure about other women robbing their 'power' or are hate prostitution because they are jealous of the younger more attractive women snaring their men. It makes me wonder if any of you guys really talk to your women friends or partners.

No one so far has mentioned the key truth. That for many civvie women the perception of prostitution is a skewed one. That they see it as a profession mainly done by women who are either hooked on drugs, have been groomed or trafficked or have mental/emotional problems that have driven them to make a career decision that is desperate.

So sadly many, many, women see men that use prostitutes as nigh on sexual abusers/rapists. In their minds we are taking advantage of weak, vunerable women that actually need help rather than being paid to shove a cock down their throat. This isn't helped by the fact that any documentary or news story in the mainstream media focuses on the bad side of this industry. The abusers and the grooming gangs.

As we all know this side of prostitution does exist - we cant get away from it. There are some nasty dark corners of this little world. I like to feel however that the majority of right thinking people on here would certainly not be knowingly using trafficked women or even emotionally damaged ones that are doing this reluctantly. Many threads I have read on here bear this out. Theres a refreshingly zero tolerance on this forum to anyone that looks like they knowingly patronise trafficking. Im pretty sure Mumsnet aren't aware these conversations even take place or that they are the broad consensus.

As WE all know there are also strong women who make a consensual decisions to do this job either because they are highly sexed or like the flexibility mixed with the earning potential it gives them. Their stories are rarely told in the media and when they are they are often perceived as the small minority that have turned an otherwise dark profession into a success.

There are also sad men that actually love women and their company, who have separated or been widowed or haven't found the right person to fill that gap in their lives. Some for various reasons struggle to start or maintain relationships so seek out women they can pay to feel the warmth of arms around them once in a while. Men that are otherwise good and kind. This profession is as nuanced and as light and dark as the people that make it up. However womens perceptions of this world for all the reasons I have stated will almost universally be bleaker than the way we see it and I don't think that will ever change.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2023, 02:23:47 pm by MrMohican »

Offline PumpDump

There are also sad men that actually love women and their company, who have separated or been widowed or haven't found the right person to fill that gap in their lives. Some for various reasons struggle to start or maintain relationships so seek out women they can pay to feel the warmth of arms around them once in a while. Men that are otherwise good and kind.

Why did you write "Men that are otherwise good and kind"? Does this show that subconsciously even you, as a user of prostitutes, deep down believe it is bad and unkind?

Online mr.bluesky

Perhaps AW should advertise on Mumsnet?

Wanted Service Providers

Would you like a job where you can:

1.Set your own flexible work schedule (hours and days of the week)

2. Get to travel to exotic far flung places like Glasgow, Birmingham, Coventry and Slough



Ooooy, what's wrong with Coventry,  I'll have you know its a very nice city, ( well some of it is) we have 2 cathedrals, a statue of some lady riding naked on a horse in the town  centre. :D

Hidden Image/Members Only

And as you can see some classy shops in the shopping precinct.  :sarcastic:
« Last Edit: November 01, 2023, 03:05:03 pm by mr.bluesky »

Offline ulstersubbie

Ooooy, what's wrong with Coventry,  I'll have you know its a very nice city, ( well some of it is) we have 2 cathedrals, a statue of some lady riding naked on a horse in the town  centre. :D

Too be fair I've been harsh in the past regarding your fine hometown Mr bluesky, but Cov does have a couple of fine real ale establishments, The Old Windmill and the Broomfield Tavern. As for naked ladies on horses, quite frankly it all sounds rather rude.   :D

Online mr.bluesky

Too be fair I've been harsh in the past regarding your fine hometown Mr bluesky, but Cov does have a couple of fine real ale establishments, The Old Windmill and the Broomfield Tavern. As for naked ladies on horses, quite frankly it all sounds rather rude.   :D

 :drinks: I'll drink to that.

Offline scutty brown

Which King Louis of France?  There were 19, over the course of a thousand years – starting with Louis the Pious (who died in 840) and ending with Louis XIX (who reigned for just 20 minutes, and died in 1844).

In any case, kings didn't "pay for sex"  They had mistresses – who were often treated with lavish generosity, but would have bridled at the notion that they were on the game.

It’s true that our King Edward VII visited brothels in Paris, but I think only when he was Prince of Wales.

was XIX Louis the Impious?

Offline scutty brown

Ooooy, what's wrong with Coventry,  I'll have you know its a very nice city, ( well some of it is) we have 2 cathedrals, a statue of some lady riding naked on a horse in the town  centre. :D

Hidden Image/Members Only

And as you can see some classy shops in the shopping precinct.  :sarcastic:

Side saddle? Really?

Online RedKettle

Why did you write "Men that are otherwise good and kind"? Does this show that subconsciously even you, as a user of prostitutes, deep down believe it is bad and unkind?

That is what you took from that post??!!  You have a problem.

Offline RandomGuy99

Ooooy, what's wrong with Coventry,  I'll have you know its a very nice city, ( well some of it is) we have 2 cathedrals, a statue of some lady riding naked on a horse in the town  centre. :D

Hidden Image/Members Only

And as you can see some classy shops in the shopping precinct.  :sarcastic:
I said it was exotic.  Possibly one too many letters and some in the wrong order. I meant toxic

 :hi:

Offline PumpDump

That is what you took from that post??!!  You have a problem.

Haha, my point is that society has brainwashed us to believe it is wrong to pay for sex. Here is this poster arguing the valid reasons for paying for sex, yet he inadvertently casts punters as bad and unkind.

Offline Colston36

You are so predictable and droll finn5555 🥱

He didn't use to be; he was a draught of poison previously.

Offline Colston36

It amazes me the difference in perceptions going on here. A lot of guys commenting on here are saying that women are jealous or insecure about other women robbing their 'power' or are hate prostitution because they are jealous of the younger more attractive women snaring their men. It makes me wonder if any of you guys really talk to your women friends or partners.

No one so far has mentioned the key truth. That for many civvie women the perception of prostitution is a skewed one. That they see it as a profession mainly done by women who are either hooked on drugs, have been groomed or trafficked or have mental/emotional problems that have driven them to make a career decision that is desperate.

So sadly many, many, women see men that use prostitutes as nigh on sexual abusers/rapists. In their minds we are taking advantage of weak, vunerable women that actually need help rather than being paid to shove a cock down their throat. This isn't helped by the fact that any documentary or news story in the mainstream media focuses on the bad side of this industry. The abusers and the grooming gangs.

As we all know this side of prostitution does exist - we cant get away from it. There are some nasty dark corners of this little world. I like to feel however that the majority of right thinking people on here would certainly not be knowingly using trafficked women or even emotionally damaged ones that are doing this reluctantly. Many threads I have read on here bear this out. Theres a refreshingly zero tolerance on this forum to anyone that looks like they knowingly patronise trafficking. Im pretty sure Mumsnet aren't aware these conversations even take place or that they are the broad consensus.

As WE all know there are also strong women who make a consensual decisions to do this job either because they are highly sexed or like the flexibility mixed with the earning potential it gives them. Their stories are rarely told in the media and when they are they are often perceived as the small minority that have turned an otherwise dark profession into a success.
f them -
There are also sad men that actually love women and their company, who have separated or been widowed or haven't found the right person to fill that gap in their lives. Some for various reasons struggle to start or maintain relationships so seek out women they can pay to feel the warmth of arms around them once in a while. Men that are otherwise good and kind. This profession is as nuanced and as light and dark as the people that make it up. However womens perceptions of this world for all the reasons I have stated will almost universally be bleaker than the way we see it and I don't think that will ever change.

Ah, the joy of categorising! I am now 87, but I liked whores - though not all of them - from the time I got to know a few when I was at uni..

Offline RandomGuy99

I said it was exotic.  Possibly one too many letters and some in the wrong order. I meant toxic

 :hi:
TBF it didn't seem that bad when I went to visit apart from the train station seemed a long walk from the centre.

Offline gurds

So gurds have we collectively answered your question now  :unknown:

I already had similar thoughts to some people on here.

Technically marriage is just a more socially acceptable version of prostitution. Married men pay the most. Money is always involved to some degree when it comes to sexual relations with women , especially for longer term dating.

Offline RandomGuy99

I already had similar thoughts to some people on here.

Technically marriage is just a more socially acceptable version of prostitution. Married men pay the most. Money is always involved to some degree when it comes to sexual relations with women , especially for longer term dating.
Money is involved in life. Relationships are involved in life.  Therefore, money and relationships co-exist along with a number of other things.

Are you sure you were married? Or did you have a live in SP?

Offline willie loman

i am a fan of mumsnet, the threads on dating and sex are genuinely educational, its like eavesdropping a drunken hen night.Its only a minority of women who are anti prostitution and porn for that matter.

Online finn5555

i am a fan of mumsnet, the threads on dating and sex are genuinely educational, its like eavesdropping a drunken hen night.Its only a minority of women who are anti prostitution and porn for that matter.

Plenty on there screaming out for more cock as well 😂😂

Online mr.bluesky

TBF it didn't seem that bad when I went to visit apart from the train station seemed a long walk from the centre.

You'll be glad to know he have a nicely refurbished train station now but it's still a fair walk to the town centre . Just think of the exercise you get.  :D

Offline MysteryManNo.7

Single mums past their prime don't like the thought of men seeking more attractive younger women or men expressing any standards or desires for women to be young and attractive. Hence all this ''body positivity'' nonsense where they can pretend fat old women are still desirable and that they don't have to put any effort into their diet or exercise and men should still think they're beautiful.

You've phrased it crudely but I would agree that you're correct in this assessment. I do think a part of the hatred from mumsnet and civvie women in general who don't care to actually understand this industry or why women choose to work in it is because in a way the fact that women are sexual selectors and control access to sex is stripped away when, who these aforementioned women who hate us, view 'low value men' as being able to bypass all the bullshit and have sex with women far younger, fitter and more attractive than them.

There are of course way more reason for mumsnet and the like to hate this industry but that I believe is certainly one of them. 

Offline Doc Holliday

The title of the thread actually relates to contempt of UKP which adds a different dimension than just prostitution.

This relates predominantly to posting 'reviews' which many women see as highly degrading etc

Let's not forget that a significant proportion of SP's also have very dim view of UKP, so it is not just Mumsnet and women outside of the industry.

Online finn5555

The title of the thread actually relates to contempt of UKP which adds a different dimension than just prostitution.

This relates predominantly to posting 'reviews' which many women see as highly degrading etc

Let's not forget that a significant proportion of SP's also have very dim view of UKP, so it is not just Mumsnet and women outside of the industry.

100% spot on, I have a regular, whom I seeing tonight funny enough, who has one report on here that whilst a positive had some negative points which she found upsetting.

Now she doesn’t know I’m on here and I pretended I knew nothing of the site but she was clearly distressed by some of the comments and she is, in my opinion, a strong women.

She now has, as you say, a dim view of UKP and its members and admits to avoiding them if at all possible.

 

Offline Jonestown

The title of the thread actually relates to contempt of UKP which adds a different dimension than just prostitution.

This site provides something to focus the rage that some mumsnet members feel for all men generally, in that it’s an easy target, we come on here and anonymously lay bare our souls, our inner thoughts, fantasies and actual dirty deeds, using money that could have bought them a new kitchen. Every day it provides them with new evidence proving what they knew all along, just how untrustworthy men are, and it’s straight from the horses mouth.

Offline macman26

Women use sex, or the withholding of sex, to control their men and get what they want. In a way this also makes them prostitutes. The fact prostitutes exist lessens this power. Let's be honest, if men don't need them for sex, they don't have any way to keep men under their control.

What true words mate!

Offline Marmalade

Because they can?

A lot of mumsnetters are undoubtedly housewives. However their net worth is greater than a housemaid who does the same job. Many ration sex once they have security.  It’s less than a prostitute who has her own life and independence.

Prostitution eats into the selling power of the housewife (or would be housewife / cushion cover arranger). It makes it harder to manipulate a husband into being dependent on her.

Think of cats. They basically train human to fulfil their needs and give fuck all back. Unlike a dog, which offers companionship, security and fun.

I’m not saying prostitutes are all like dogs: they generally look after their own poop-scooping, feeding and ‘kennels’ and just come when you call them. But it’s rare for a dog to be a bossy manipulative bitch who doesn’t doesn’t do as it’s told. When was the last time you enjoyed taking a cat for a walk??

Offline Colston36

Women use sex, or the withholding of sex, to control their men and get what they want. In a way this also makes them prostitutes. The fact prostitutes exist lessens this power. Let's be honest, if men don't need them for sex, they don't have any way to keep men under their control.

What tosh. Maybe they just find you unattractive.

Offline Doc Holliday

There is also a certain irony that Mumsnetters may be reading some of the misogynistic posts in this thread supporting their case.

Offline akauya

Is pretty funny how much contempt Mumsnet have for this site.

What do people think is main reason for this?...

I think you got your answer haven't you? Some men's opinions about women/relationships/prostitutes are stuck in the 1800s.

Offline akauya

There is also a certain irony that Mumsnetters may be reading some of the misogynistic posts in this thread supporting their case.

I should have read the whole two pages properly Doc. Your post above is much more succinct than mine but I agree with you 100%. I was shaking my head about some of the posts on page one, it got worse in page two!  :scare:


Offline hendrix

There is also a certain irony that Mumsnetters may be reading some of the misogynistic posts in this thread supporting their case.

+1


Offline PumpDump

What tosh. Maybe they just find you unattractive.

There is no logic to your reply. My attractiveness or not is completely unrelated to what I said.

Offline Colston36

There is no logic to your reply. My attractiveness or not is completely unrelated to what I said.

Double tosh. There are many ways whereby woman can control men besides sex.

Offline Froomey

i am a fan of mumsnet, the threads on dating and sex are genuinely educational, its like eavesdropping a drunken hen night.Its only a minority of women who are anti prostitution and porn for that matter.

I'd agree. Indeed, to go a little further, though I've not done so recently, I have in previous years engaged a few 'mumsnetters' in very interesting conversation on a range of sexual matters. I even got to sleep with two of them as a result.....

Offline RandomGuy99

I'd agree. Indeed, to go a little further, though I've not done so recently, I have in previous years engaged a few 'mumsnetters' in very interesting conversation on a range of sexual matters. I even got to sleep with two of them as a result.....
Did you write a review?

Offline Froomey

Did you write a review?

No; obviously not as they were civvie dates/relationships...... :dash:

Offline jamiekinkxxx

No; obviously not as they were civvie dates/relationships...... :dash:

I thought he was being sarcastic myself  :lol:

Offline RandomGuy99

I thought he was being sarcastic myself  :lol:
:thumbsup:

Perhaps Mumsnet has become the new Tinder for MILFs?
« Last Edit: November 02, 2023, 01:35:27 pm by RandomGuy99 »

Offline scutty brown

..................I even got to sleep with two of them as a result.....

were they feeling sorry for you?

Offline PumpDump

Double tosh. There are many ways whereby woman can control men besides sex.

Yes but they can use sex to control, which was my point, which you agree with. So what is the point of your post?

Online webpunter

We need more duscussions on knitting, cracked nipples, the Menopause and dungarees.

You forgot to mention eating chocolate

Wonder if ParisB still has a tie in with em ?

I have referenced MN before usually like "our besties over @ M-net"

On the basis that M-net ain't likely to show on goggle

Online webpunter

:thumbsup:

Perhaps Mumsnet has become the new Tinder for MILFs?

What could possibly go wrong ?

I'd be more tempted to risk Grindr than M-net  :scare: :lol:

Offline scutty brown

Double tosh. There are many ways whereby woman can control men besides sex.

Few have rolling pins nowadays though

Offline Froomey

I thought he was being sarcastic myself  :lol:

Sarcasm is a very low form of wit, if wit it be at all.....