Cancellation fee

[mattylondon]

Hi if you booked a wg and then cancelled 5 days before would you expect her to ask for a cancellation fee?

For a quasi legal service, that isn't regulated and has zero right of redress, in the event of a crap service...hell no. Should a prossie offer you a free punt or discount if she needs to cancel the appointment on the day, never mind 5 days before? No, why should she? 

[MidlandsEscortxo]

The only time I would ever ask for a cancellation fee was if i had outgoings e.g. working from a hotel and he came to the door and then walked. Its never happened but I would at least demand 10% of what he should have paid me ... all some men want to do is window shop

[Daffodil]

The only time I would ever ask for a cancellation fee was if i had outgoings e.g. working from a hotel and he came to the door and then walked. Its never happened but I would at least demand 10% of what he should have paid me ... all some men want to do is window shop

That's his prerogative. If he doesn't like what he sees then it's up to him if he wants to walk 

[punk]

Wrong, if she had good business sense and was professional she wouldn't need to suck cock for a living 

well where else can you get the sort of money for sucking cocks  unless your a banker, self employed entrepreneur etc

[punk]

For a quasi legal service, that isn't regulated and has zero right of redress, in the event of a crap service...hell no. Should a prossie offer you a free punt or discount if she needs to cancel the appointment on the day, never mind 5 days before? No, why should she? 

they should do, but you get sweet fuck all.

[punk]

That's his prerogative. If he doesn't like what he sees then it's up to him if he wants to walk 

+1 we are paying. Most WG'S forget this.

[mattylondon]

+1 we are paying. Most WG'S forget this.

Indeed. Something that a few forget. We are the customer. They provide the service. There's no financial comeback for a booking either way. If an SP cancelled on me, I wouldn't be a cheeky enough bastard to expect a free punt or discount the next time around! I can understand if a punter turns up, the woman matches the pictures and the punter gets cold feet. Clearly, he has wasted her time but he's still under no obligation to pay anything. I'd like to think most punters would pay something.

Any SP that had the sheer nerve to ask me for a discount, even if it was cancelled on the same day, would receive very short shrift.

'Outgoings'!? What? Some Tesco value wet wipes and toilet paper, plus condoms that can be obtained for free or mass purchased on the Internet for next to nothing. Talk to me about outgoings when all income is declared to the HMRC and all taxes paid.

[punk]

Indeed. Something that a few forget. We are the customer. They provide the service. There's no financial comeback for a booking either way. If an SP cancelled on me, I wouldn't be a cheeky enough bastard to expect a free punt or discount the next time around! I can understand if a punter turns up, the woman matches the pictures and the punter gets cold feet. Clearly, he has wasted her time but he's still under no obligation to pay anything. I'd like to think most punters would pay something.

Anybody Service Provider that had the sheet nerve to ask me for a discount, even if it was cancelled on the same day, would receive short shrift.

'Outgoings'!? What? Some Tesco value wet wipes and toilet paper, plus condoms that can be obtained for free or mass purchased on the Internet for next to nothing. Talk to me about outgoings when

yes free from the sexual heath clinic, and you know what drives the women in question £££, so i think with a few of them customer service is a word that is centred on them.

[mattylondon]

yes free from the sexual heath clinic, and you know what drives the women in question £££, so i think with a few of them customer service is a word that is centred on them.

An SP can 'demand' all they like. The business isn't regulated. The customer is under no obligation than say, a moral one with that example. What's she gonna say if he refuses. Get her pimp? 

[circusbizarre]

nope would never pay cancellation fee

[vorian]

yes free from the sexual heath clinic, and you know what drives the women in question £££, so i think with a few of them customer service is a word that is centred on them.

Have you been sneaking off and reading SAAFE again Punk 

[punk]

An SP can 'demand' all they like. The business isn't regulated. The customer is under no obligation than say, a moral one with the example provided. What's she gonna say if he refuses. Get her pimp? 

some would or try too, wonder if it would be better regulated and where would you start?

[mattylondon]

Have you been sneaking off and reading SAAFE again Punk 

[mh]

If an SP cancelled on me, I wouldn't be a cheeky enough bastard to expect a free punt or discount the next time around!

Well I would - if I had a confirmed booking and had travelled some way to see her. Cancellation by the SP at zero notice after travelling has happened to me twice. In one case the girl barely apologised saying she had texted me a cancellation, later admitting she had sent it to the wrong person and would not offer anything off a repeat booking (she knew I had driven 90 minute round trip). In the second case the SP could not have been more apologetic and explained the situation clearly and offered a great price on a repeat booking because she knew I had wasted time and fuel. That's great customer service and is what I'd expect from any professional offering a premium cost service.

[punk]

Have you been sneaking off and reading SAAFE again Punk 

no i avoid that site like the plague, some wg's are ok in what they do, but may be i am becoming jaded as you seem to be getting less and less good escorts around. may be its me.

[Daffodil]

Well I would - if I had a confirmed booking and had travelled some way to see her. Cancellation by the SP at zero notice after travelling has happened to me twice. In one case the girl barely apologised saying she had texted me a cancellation, later admitting she had sent it to the wrong person and would not offer anything off a repeat booking (she knew I had driven 90 minute round trip). In the second case the SP could not have been more apologetic and explained the situation clearly and offered a great price on a repeat booking because she knew I had wasted time and fuel. That's great customer service and is what I'd expect from any professional offering a premium cost service.

I agree. I had this happen to me the other morning. I had only lost time, but I felt her excuse was bollocks and we had confirmed just an hour before. I said she should either see me as arranged or for £10 less at the time that was convenient to her. She took a little persuading, but as soon as I pointed out that that was good customer service she agreed.

[punk]

Have you been sneaking off and reading SAAFE again Punk 

any way if i remember correctly you seem to know a lot about saafe, what was it you said "know your enemy?"

[mattylondon]

some would or try too, wonder if it would be better regulated and where would you start?

I'd start with full legalisation, making it a legitimate occupation, including the payment of taxes and approved establishments. Better protection for women, including free and compulsory health checks. The New Zealand model looks good enough. I'm sure that many things could be done. 

[vorian]

no i avoid that site like the plague, some wg's are ok in what they do, but may be i am becoming jaded as you seem to be getting less and less good escorts around. may be its me.

Always very difficult to quantify as what makes a "Good" escort is such a subjective thing, far more than what makes a "Bad" escort which people seem to agree mostly on. I have tried to raise this issue before but no ones really wants to hear or debate it seems. 

[mattylondon]

Well I would - if I had a confirmed booking and had travelled some way to see her. Cancellation by the SP at zero notice after travelling has happened to me twice. In one case the girl barely apologised saying she had texted me a cancellation, later admitting she had sent it to the wrong person and would not offer anything off a repeat booking (she knew I had driven 90 minute round trip). In the second case the SP could not have been more apologetic and explained the situation clearly and offered a great price on a repeat booking because she knew I had wasted time and fuel. That's great customer service and is what I'd expect from any professional offering a premium cost service.

Yes, you make your point well.

[punk]

I'd start with full legalisation, making it a legitimacy occupation, including the payment of taxes and approved establishments. Better which protection for the women, including free and compulsory health checks. The New Zealand model looks good enough. I'm sure that many things could be tone. 

new zealand has a good model, heath checks are free, especial for WG'S foreign or domestic already here, thats what i said on here last year,there should be legalised establishments/brothels etc but i got shot down, because the price will go up, i think some give Australia as an example where this happened.

[MidlandsEscortxo]

That's his prerogative. If he doesn't like what he sees then it's up to him if he wants to walk 

not at all. if the pics are as shown and does the services stated? different matter if a stunner is advertised and peggy mitchell comes to the door .. but then were just going through different scenarios in order to be pedantic 

[Daffodil]

not at all. if the pics are as shown and does the services stated? different matter if a stunner is advertised and peggy mitchell comes to the door .. but then were just going through different scenarios in order to be pedantic

That's not what you said though. Backtrack all you like 

Regardless, if he gets a bad feel about the area (see a recent post), realises there's a pimp in the premises, gets a bad vibe from the prossie, or a million other reasons, he is still within his rights to walk 

[James999]

The only time I would ever ask for a cancellation fee was if i had outgoings e.g. working from a hotel and he came to the door and then walked.

Why, you are offering to sell he is declining to buy, no need / justification for any payment 

[smiths]

new zealand has a good model, heath checks are free, especial for WG'S foreign or domestic already here, thats what i said on here last year,there should be legalised establishments/brothels etc but i got shot down, because the price will go up, i think some give Australia as an example where this happened.

According to a punter who reckons he knows the scene in Australia very well many brothels are unlicensed due to the cost of getting a legal license.

Also the official services on offer are all covered so no OWO for example due to Health and Safety. As OWO is essential to me that wouldnt suit me at all.

IMO there are pros and cons to legalisation although decriminalisation is more likely. In the short term up to the general election there wont be any legal status  changes to brothels. If Labour and Harridan get back in she will certainly try to criminalise all punters if she can muster the support.

[smiths]

some would or try too, wonder if it would be better regulated and where would you start?

Once the authorities have their snouts in the trough it will start with prices going through the roof in brothels which no doubt Indies would follow. CRB checks on pimps which is a very good thing in my view and WGs would have to formally register as WGs putting some off as now they can come and go with no record of them being a WG. In theory there wouldnt be any chance of punting with underage, coerced or trafficked WGs in brothels.

[punk]

According to a punter who reckons he knows the scene in Australia very well many brothels are unlicensed due to the cost of getting a legal license.

Also the official services on offer are all covered so no OWO for example due to Health and Safety. As OWO is essential to me that wouldnt suit me at all.

IMO there are pros and cons to legalisation although decriminalisation is more likely. In the short term up to the general election there wont be any legal status  changes to brothels. If Labour and Harridan get back in she will certainly try to criminalise all punters if she can muster the support.

Once the authorities have their snouts in the trough it will start with prices going through the roof in brothels which no doubt Indies would follow. CRB checks on pimps which is a very good thing in my view and WGs would have to formally register as WGs putting some off as now they can come and go with no record of them being a WG. In theory there wouldnt be any chance of punting with underage, coerced or trafficked WGs in brothels.

pros and cons with regulation agree with the points you've made, dont start me off about her and her nutty beliefs, she needs to look at her party first.

[Jimmyredcab]

I have heard of a WG called Michelle Independent somewhere on here. Apparently she is recommended by a number of "respected" members.

I can remember someone talking about flowers amongst weeds or something along those lines.  Also some place called London Retreat or I might be wrong there.

But you are right Jimmy plenty of dross as well.

It is open to debate whether the lovely Michelle is in London, I would describe her location as Greater  London ------ put it this way, it would be a long walk from Leicester Square.   

[Jimmyredcab]

CRB checks on pimps which is a very good thing in my view .

That's the funniest thing I have read for months.   

[Jimmyredcab]

The only time I would ever ask for a cancellation fee was if i had outgoings e.g. working from a hotel and he came to the door and then walked. Its never happened but I would at least demand 10% of what he should have paid me .

You are in no position to DEMAND anything ----- unless of course the client had signed a contract with you then you could take him to the small claims court. 

[Everywhichway]

I'd tell her to fuck right off!!!!! 

[smiths]

That's the funniest thing I have read for months.   

According to the punter who reckons he knows the Australian punting set-up well thats what they do with pimps their in order for them to get a brothel license.

[MidlandsEscortxo]

You are in no position to DEMAND anything ----- unless of course the client had signed a contract with you then you could take him to the small claims court. 

so does that mean that if a punter had drove 150 miles and I had to cancel due to illness, emergency etc it wouldnt be polite to offer him a discount or an extra 30 minutes on his maybe next booking ... okay then

[CatBBW]

Yeah I cancelled the lady twice due to health problem. She emailed to say she thought a cancellation fee would be appropriate as she was loosing money. I said she hadn't lost money as you could take another booking. She said it doesn't work like that. So how does it work?

I've never heard anything so stupid. With 5 days to go, she could easily line up another booking. If you've cancelled twice, all she needs to do is block you and not take another call/email from you. Methinks she's trying it on.

[vorian]

any way if i remember correctly you seem to know a lot about saafe, what was it you said "know your enemy?"

 

Only thing is also "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" on SAAFE they are all enemies to each other, so does that mean they are our friends, but then if they are friends then they are enemies as well to each other. It is all so confusing 

[punk]

so does that mean that if a punter had drove 150 miles and I had to cancel due to illness, emergency etc it wouldnt be polite to offer him a discount or an extra 30 minutes on his maybe next booking ... okay then

you may be one of the exceptions out there in puntland.

[punk]

Only thing is also "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" on SAAFE they are all enemies to each other, so does that mean they are our friends, but then if they are friends then they are enemies as well to each other. It is all so confusing 

or keep your friends close, your enemies closer. You could see them as business rivals.

[vorian]

or keep your friends close, your enemies closer. You could see them as business rivals.

Indeed Sir, Indeed 

[Mara]

The only time I would ever ask for a cancellation fee was if i had outgoings e.g. working from a hotel and he came to the door and then walked. Its never happened but I would at least demand 10% of what he should have paid me ... all some men want to do is window shop

So far I haven't experienced it but I think to demand 10% of the booking fee would bring us anything else than a huge argument and maybe a bad reputation. Would it be worth the risk for lets say £10 ?

If a client wants to walk then there is nothing we can do and to be honest, I think it is better he walks if he is not happy. Otherwise he might go through with the booking, not enjoying it and write a negative review.

This seems to be an ongoing issue that has been mentioned  a lot, especially in negative reviews. It usually starts with "I don't know why I didn't walk but .... "

Fact is, if the customer is not happy then this is because he was misled by the profile or his expectations are too high. If it happens a lot then it would be time to adjust the profile and pics, etc. If it is him having too high expectations, then there is nothing we can do but to accept it and move on. Going into an argument because of a few £ can cause more damage than the lost money from one booking.

At the end of the day, a good reputation is our biggest marketing tool and we won't earn this good reputation with charging customers cancellation fees.

[Daffodil]

So far I haven't experienced it but I think to demand 10% of the booking fee would bring us anything else than a huge argument and maybe a bad reputation. Would it be worth the risk for lets say £10 ?

If a client wants to walk then there is nothing we can do and to be honest, I think it is better he walks if he is not happy. Otherwise he might go through with the booking, not enjoying it and write a negative review.

This seems to be an ongoing issue that has been mentioned  a lot, especially in negative reviews. It usually starts with "I don't know why I didn't walk but .... "

Fact is, if the customer is not happy then this is because he was misled by the profile or his expectations are too high. If it happens a lot then it would be time to adjust the profile and pics, etc. If it is him having too high expectations, then there is nothing we can do but to accept it and move on. Going into an argument because of a few £ can cause more damage than the lost money from one booking.

At the end of the day, a good reputation is our biggest marketing tool and we won't earn this good reputation with charging customers cancellation fees.

Well what do we have here? A really good post from a prossie 

[Strawberry]

Hi if you booked a wg and then cancelled 5 days before would you expect her to ask for a cancellation fee?

Not if she didn't mention it when you booked. Businesses who do charge cancellation fees, make it clear at time of booking, not make it up afterwards and then it's usually based on a reasonable amount of time like 24 or 48 hours.

If a client books and cancels several times in a row, but is still getting in touch saying he wants an appointment I will get to a point where I'll ask for a deposit upfront for future bookings, but at that point it's his choice.  Cancelling at 5 days gives me the chance to decide what to do with that day.

How does she think she's going to chase you for the payment, and going to any 'expense' on behalf of a client booking is just daft. The money is never yours until the booking is complete and he's on his happy way.

[Daffodil]

Not if she didn't mention it when you booked. Businesses who do charge cancellation fees, make it clear at time of booking, not make it up afterwards and then it's usually based on a reasonable amount of time like 24 or 48 hours.

If a client books and cancels several times in a row, but is still getting in touch saying he wants an appointment I will get to a point where I'll ask for a deposit upfront for future bookings, but at that point it's his choice.  Cancelling at 5 days gives me the chance to decide what to do with that day.

How does she think she's going to chase you for the payment, and going to any 'expense' on behalf of a client booking is just daft. The money is never yours until the booking is complete and he's on his happy way.

Even if she did state, up-front, that she wants a cancellation fee it makes no difference, I'd still tell her to fuck off 

[punk]

So far I haven't experienced it but I think to demand 10% of the booking fee would bring us anything else than a huge argument and maybe a bad reputation. Would it be worth the risk for lets say £10 ?

If a client wants to walk then there is nothing we can do and to be honest, I think it is better he walks if he is not happy. Otherwise he might go through with the booking, not enjoying it and write a negative review.

This seems to be an ongoing issue that has been mentioned  a lot, especially in negative reviews. It usually starts with "I don't know why I didn't walk but .... "

Fact is, if the customer is not happy then this is because he was misled by the profile or his expectations are too high. If it happens a lot then it would be time to adjust the profile and pics, etc. If it is him having too high expectations, then there is nothing we can do but to accept it and move on. Going into an argument because of a few £ can cause more damage than the lost money from one booking.

At the end of the day, a good reputation is our biggest marketing tool and we won't earn this good reputation with charging customers cancellation fees.

good post.

[James999]

Businesses who do charge cancellation fees, make it clear at time of booking,

And even if they did it would be unlikely to stand up in court as if say it were a restaurant, they would have to prove that they did not rebook that table, and that they lost the money. 

[Strawberry]

And even if they did it would be unlikely to stand up in court as if say it were a restaurant, they would have to prove that they did not rebook that table, and that they lost the money. 

I haven't got a clue what they would have to prove in court, all I know is many businesses do charge the fees, many don't follow up, some however do and will send a bill, or charge your card. I would guess it's in the verbal contract and in a civil court (presuming either party took it that far) the judge decides who to fall in favour of.


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[punk]

I haven't got a clue what they would have to prove in court, all I know is many businesses do charge the fees, many don't follow up, some however do and will send a bill, or charge your card. I would guess it's in the verbal contract and in a civil court (presuming either party took it that far) the judge decides who to fall in favour of.


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trouble is that verbal agreement is hear say is that legally binding? who is to say who is telling the truth without evidence?

[Jimmyredcab]

According to the punter who reckons he knows the Australian punting set-up well thats what they do with pimps their in order for them to get a brothel license.

Prostitution will not be licenced in my lifetime in this country, in fact if the British people are stupid enough to put Labour back in power we could see punting made a criminal offence.   

[smiths]

Prostitution will not be licenced in my lifetime in this country, in fact if the British people are stupid enough to put Labour back in power we could see punting made a criminal offence.   

I agree.

[punk]

Prostitution will not be licenced in my lifetime in this country, in fact if the British people are stupid enough to put Labour back in power we could see punting made a criminal offence.   

I think they have every chance of getting back in unless the jocks go indie;And with in the life time of the new parliament we will see new criminal laws introduced, so time to start saving for more away trips, to broaden your horizons .

[Jimmyredcab]

I think they have every chance of getting back in unless the jocks go indie;And with in the life time of the new parliament we will see new criminal laws introduced, so time to start saving for more away trips, to broaden your horizons .

If punting was made illegal it would not affect me at all, I would simply break the law.