Happy ending massage -why?

[charlesthedragon]

Hey guys,

Geniune question, but other than punters who struggle to stay hard during full intercourse whst is the attraction to this?

I have considered it but at around £60-90 i would rather pay a little more for the full deal. Am i missing out on something?

Sorry if this has been asked before couldn't find a thread.

[lewisjones23]

sometimes a handjob is what people want

some people go see big fat WG's,  some only skinny, some only punt Asians etc etc

something for everyone in this game - horses for courses

[Littlefoot]

No need to pay £60-£90 if your in a rush and/or want a quick unload, why not try a WIHJ. Skip the massage bit, just get straight to the sensual 10-15 mins C&B massage part, with a Nice ending. £20 the going rate in Brum. Try it! We have a thread for it:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=110442.msg1287353#msg1287353

[mr.bluesky]

Sometimes it's nice to just relax for half an hour or an hour with a good massage and happy ending and let the lady in question do all the work without feeling the need to perform. I find a massage makes feel more relaxed than a full on punt.

[monstar]

Sometimes it's nice to just relax for half an hour or an hour with a good massage and happy ending and let the lady in question do all the work without feeling the need to perform. I find a massage makes feel more relaxed than a full on punt.

Exactly this. I mostly full service punt but occasionally it's nice to have a massage, relax and pop with no effort, usually at lower rates too.

[stampjones]

Its like just about anything in this game - some guys like stuff that is classed as "normal" some guys like more out there stuff. There's no reason for it. You follow a path and you end up somewhere - who knows why. Why do you like your favourite ice cream flavour, tv program or football team? Its just what works for you.

One thing is for sure, certainly for me and probably for most people who do it, it's got fuck all to do with staying hard though as that has never been a problem for me.

[od13218]

Sometimes I genuinely fancy a massage and getting a wank or more at the end is the icing on the cake of a nice stress-busting half an hour or so. Sometimes I enjoy the thrill of going to a place where it's not quite clear whether they'll offer extras or not; the flirting, brushing balls/arse, pressing their tits down on you as they bend over, etc, all add to an erotic build up. And having done it maybe a dozen or so times, I've now got a few favourites who I enjoy revisiting.
On the other hand, sometimes I'm in the mood for a 15 min pump & dump, sometimes I fancy a drawn- out GFE, usually with a big curvy girl, and sometimes I'm feeling kinky and go to a dominatrix.
For me it's like food: an essential need but I wouldn't want the same meal every day. Some moments only a curry and a few pints will do; at others I need a bottle of burgundy and a steak.

[od13218]

So to answer your question OP- you might be missing out on something, or it might just not be your thing. There's only one way to find out: no harm in giving it a go one day- you certainly don't have to spend £90!

[maxxblue]

Sometimes I genuinely fancy a massage and getting a wank or more at the end is the icing on the cake of a nice stress-busting half an hour or so. Sometimes I enjoy the thrill of going to a place where it's not quite clear whether they'll offer extras or not; the flirting, brushing balls/arse, pressing their tits down on you as they bend over, etc, all add to an erotic build up. And having done it maybe a dozen or so times, I've now got a few favourites who I enjoy revisiting.
On the other hand, sometimes I'm in the mood for a 15 min pump & dump, sometimes I fancy a drawn- out GFE, usually with a big curvy girl, and sometimes I'm feeling kinky and go to a dominatrix.
For me it's like food: an essential need but I wouldn't want the same meal every day. Some moments only a curry and a few pints will do; at others I need a bottle of burgundy and a steak.

Good answer 

[fredpunter]

A good massage is a treat in itself and should be achievable for £40-£45 an hour.
If towards the end she offers a happy end for another £20 It's often very difficult to say no.
But beware that they don't all offer a good massage .... if the massage is crap £65 is a lot to pay for a tedious rub and a wank

[snaitram99]

You can usually try a half hour massage for £30 or less. You may like it. Thai or Chinese most likely to give a good massage. You may be offered a happy ending for £20 or so. You may also like it.

[con-a-ser]

I thought it was just guys trying to justify cheating on there wives

thinking we didn't have sex it was just a wank

[od13218]

I thought it was just guys trying to justify cheating on there wives

thinking we didn't have sex it was just a wank

Well, I guess there might be a few - but they need a reality check! "No, love, I haven't been shagging around, honest - it was only a wank off a Chinese whore in a massage shop". "Oh, ok darling, I was worried for a minute, but that's fine, you have your fun, and you can do me up the arse later as a treat".

[con-a-ser]

Well, I guess there might be a few - but they need a reality check! "No, love, I haven't been shagging around, honest - it was only a wank off a Chinese whore in a massage shop". "Oh, ok darling, I was worried for a minute, but that's fine, you have your fun, and you can do me up the arse later as a treat".

I actually meant in there own heads

[notcalledchris]

I find that the massage gets me nice and relaxed and in that position my orgasm is very strong and satisfying, certainly feels much more intense than a wank.  I do usually prefer a full punt cos sticking it in cannot be beaten but actually find that my cums are better from a HE after a massage than they are into a condom and cunt

[stampjones]

I actually meant in there own heads

Seriously though that would be fucked up - i want to podge a whore but I'll settle for a rub and tug just so I have a pretty fucking weak excuse that I know the missus would go mental on anyway?
Like I said above - most of us do it cos we like it. Not for everyone maybe but so what?

[hungrypunt]

I think OP, you need to try it.

[JamesKW]

I have tried it on numerous occasions,but find it an extremely expensive way of going about things,it was something I did along the way to full service.I can understand just having a quality massage by a skilled therapist.

[webpunter]

 

Well, I guess there might be a few - but they need a reality check! "No, love, I haven't been shagging around, honest - it was only a wank off a Chinese whore in a massage shop". "Oh, ok darling, I was worried for a minute, but that's fine, you have your fun, and you can do me up the arse later as a treat".

There is also the fact that you are highly unlikely to catch anything from HJ
I've gone for HJ option at a parlour late in the day - reckoning i could be number 25 

[standardpostage]

When I was younger, I used to have full sex. Nowadays in my retirement, I like nothing better than a "good" massage, with lots of oil, and a very, very happy ending   

[con-a-ser]

Seriously though that would be fucked up -

Welcome to the world of punting

[willie loman]

Does not appeal to me one jot, if I cant get it up, I now refuse the offer of a wank or a bj, a waste of an orgasm. You leave feeling shabby.

[stampjones]

Welcome to the world of punting

Fair point

[sir wanksalot]

I was thinking the same question as the other OP the other day-I don't quite get it.

If you don't want the pressure to perform then simply let it be known to the WG that you don't want sex.

Most reports and discussions of Happy Ending masseurs is laced with talk about how much the masseur will let you get away with-will they take their clothes off, will they let you have a feel etc etc.

Why not just pay a WG and you control what you get and what you don't get-the prices are pretty much the same as a happy ending massage.

Unless there is a certain thrill to not knowing what you might get......??

[daviemac]

I was thinking the same question as the other OP the other day-I don't quite get it.

If you don't want the pressure to perform then simply let it be known to the WG that you don't want sex.

Most reports and discussions of Happy Ending masseurs is laced with talk about how much the masseur will let you get away with-will they take their clothes off, will they let you have a feel etc etc.

Why not just pay a WG and you control what you get and what you don't get-the prices are pretty much the same as a happy ending massage.

Unless there is a certain thrill to not knowing what you might get......??

Have you never thought that it's the fact you're getting a proper massage from a fully trained professional masseuse that's the main thing.   

If I want a massage I go to a well reviewed masseuse, who gives me what I want, a good massage (HE etc's a bonus but not vital). If I want anything sexual I see an escort. They are two vastly different things.

[sir wanksalot]

Have you never thought that it's the fact you're getting a proper massage from a fully trained professional masseuse that's the main thing.   

No-I have never thought that because I'm not convinced it's true. Are you REALLY looking for a "proper massage" ?? I doubt it......

[Stapler]

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Plus tens of thousands on the other boards!

[daviemac]

No-I have never thought that because I'm not convinced it's true. Are you REALLY looking for a "proper massage" ?? I doubt it......

How the fuck do you know what I'm thinking or looking for. You can think whatever you want, you asked a question I gave you an answer regarding what I look for in a massage and I have no desire whatsoever to 'convince' you of anything.

Not everybody's as narrow minded as you and there's more to life than seeing a prossie. It may be very hard for you to believe but sometimes people do want something a bit different and having a proper massage from a fully trained masseuse falls into that category.

Have a read of the 'massage' thread in the NE region - 268 pages over a million views, all talking rubbish.   

Unless there's anything else you'd like to tell me about myself that I'm not aware of I'll leave it there.     

 

[JamesKW]

It maybe seen as a cheap way of getting an oriental girl but it is a bit of a palaver.You pay say £30 to £40 for a half hour massage,then about 5 mins before the end you get would you like a little extra so its £20 to take her top off and a bit of a fumble,then negotiations start,they usually start high at £40 so you have to negotiate it down to £20 for an HJ (which I think takes away a lot of the spontinaity) so you are looking at £70 for half hour.A better deal is an EE WG for half hour,a low cost party (I pay £50 to £80 for these) or a couple of SOHO walkups.

[Stapler]

Most of the reviews for the massage girls are contained in the relative threads. If they were put into the area review sections, there would be thousands and all records would be broken for the number of yearly reviews on UKP!

The main reason they are not in the area review sections is that very few massage girls advertise on AW so the reviews wouldn't be linked with the unique AW number as are the FS girls.

[sir wanksalot]

How the fuck do you know what I'm thinking or looking for. You can think whatever you want, you asked a question I gave you an answer regarding what I look for in a massage and I have no desire whatsoever to 'convince' you of anything.

Not everybody's as narrow minded as you and there's more to life than seeing a prossie. It may be very hard for you to believe but sometimes people do want something a bit different and having a proper massage from a fully trained masseuse falls into that category.

Have a read of the 'massage' thread in the NE region - 268 pages over a million views, all talking rubbish.   

Unless there's anything else you'd like to tell me about myself that I'm not aware of I'll leave it there.     

 

I don't know what you're looking for. As I said I don't really get the concept of seeking out happy ending massages either but that's just me.

If you were only after a "proper massage" then do you consider both male and female masseurs ? And if you only consider female masseurs then I presume their attractiveness may also be a factor in your decision making process ?

I don't think I am being unreasonable in saying that there is a sexual element to these type of massages.....

[daviemac]

It maybe seen as a cheap way of getting an oriental girl but it is a bit of a palaver.You pay say £30 to £40 for a half hour massage,then about 5 mins before the end you get would you like a little extra so its £20 to take her top off and a bit of a fumble,then negotiations start,they usually start high at £40 so you have to negotiate it down to £20 for an HJ (which I think takes away a lot of the spontinaity) so you are looking at £70 for half hour.A better deal is an EE WG for half hour,a low cost party (I pay £50 to £80 for these) or a couple of SOHO walkups.

£35 - £40 per hour in the NE plus £20 for HE, if available. That makes £60 for an hour for what I want and that's a proper massage, anything else is a bonus but not a necessity.

But there again what do I know I only have and enjoy massages.

How many EE prossies are trained masseuses, they can't even give you a good shag.

Only speaking for myself, if I want a massage I have one from a well reviewed fully trained masseuse. if I want sexual contact and activity I see a well reviewed prossie.

The two are not in any way related, they are totally different services and do not mix well.

I don't know what you're looking for. As I said I don't really get the concept of seeking out happy ending massages either but that's just me.

If you were only after a "proper massage" then do you consider both male and female masseurs ? And if you only consider female masseurs then I presume their attractiveness may also be a factor in your decision making process ?

I don't think I am being unreasonable in saying that there is a sexual element to these type of massages.....

In answer to that I wouldn't feel comfortable with a male masseur just a personal preference.

What I can't understand is why so many can't see they are totally different services.
 

[JamesKW]

The two are not in any way related, they are totally different services and do not mix well.

I think that's the point many go for a massage hoping to get a little more out of it,so they are not different services,just a watered down version of the same thing.

If you wanted a proper massage you would go to a reputable provider with no expectations.

[notcalledchris]

But IMHO a massage and an HE,  BJ or FS go together very well.   The massage relaxes you which I find prepares you for a superb orgasm.

[joe diddley]

As others have written, a well delivered massage is part of the FBSM experience and the fact that you don't have to perform is important too for many of us oldies. Finally we shouldn't overlook the fact that many of the best providers of 'erotic massage' have trained themselves to give absolutely first class, squirmingly delicious handjobs preceded, if you pay a little more, by oily body slides, breast relief and even in some cases OWO. I really love a good FBSM session. It is different to FS but not necessarily any the worse for that. If I want FS nowadays I just cut to the chase and go to Soho for 15 minutes of fun.

[sir wanksalot]

In answer to that I wouldn't feel comfortable with a male masseur just a personal preference.

What I can't understand is why so many can't see they are totally different services.

If a "proper massage" is the ultimate goal then the gender of the masseur really shouldn't make any difference. When I did my back in I had a retired rugby player sticking his elbows in my back. Painful as hell but I felt better after.

I'm not having a pop at you mate all I was saying is that I shared the OP's confusion about why some guys (a lot of guys) like HE massages when they can get the same service guaranteed from other ladies.

If a genuine masseur is giving out hand jobs then she is still a "prossie".

[James999]

If guys jst want a wank that's fine, what I find amusing is how it works (or rather doesn't) on forums, the pro$$ies who do it get upset at people calling them pro$$ies, and you get an endless stream of people saying "she doesn't do that" 

[con-a-ser]

"she doesn't do that" 

Hoooeee Yesss Shee Does   

Ho no She Doesn't 

Hoooeee Yesss Shee Does   

[joe diddley]

I shared the OP's confusion about why some guys (a lot of guys) like HE massages when they can get the same service guaranteed from other ladies.

If a genuine masseur is giving out hand jobs then she is still a "prossie".

I'm prepared to call them "prossies" but this doesn't take away from the fact that a good FBSM experience is quite different from what "other ladies" provide. Most FS providers couldn't massage their way out of a paper bag, let alone deliver a specifically erotic massage. When delivered by the better providers it's a lot more than "just a wank". Sometimes I do just want a wank. If I want only that I go to Soho and cut out all the GFE bullshit which has little appeal for me personally. £20 for a Barclays in Soho and you're sorted if you're happy with that. FBSM with a HE is quite different when done properly.

[random]

I was thinking the same question as the other OP the other day-I don't quite get it.

If you don't want the pressure to perform then simply let it be known to the WG that you don't want sex.

Most reports and discussions of Happy Ending masseurs is laced with talk about how much the masseur will let you get away with-will they take their clothes off, will they let you have a feel etc etc.

Why not just pay a WG and you control what you get and what you don't get-the prices are pretty much the same as a happy ending massage.

Unless there is a certain thrill to not knowing what you might get......??

I don't care for the will she won't she aspect I only go for the sure thing. It can be really good if there are lots of sensual teasing touches throughout and the finish is well done. The price is not the same, on average it's quite a bit cheaper. In the past I've had them as low as £30-40 for half an hour.

[daviemac]

If a "proper massage" is the ultimate goal then the gender of the masseur really shouldn't make any difference. When I did my back in I had a retired rugby player sticking his elbows in my back. Painful as hell but I felt better after.

I'm not having a pop at you mate all I was saying is that I shared the OP's confusion about why some guys (a lot of guys) like HE massages when they can get the same service guaranteed from other ladies.

If a genuine masseur is giving out hand jobs then she is still a "prossie".

To put this another way, I have no aches and pains, injuries or any other physical problem that needs sorting out, what I do have, on occasion, is a desire to have a proper massage and my preference is for the provider to, not only be very good at it, but to be female as well. I have, quite often, been to a masseuse that I know full well to be totally legit, even as far as keeping your boxers on and being covered with a towel, because I know the massage will be excellent.

A good masseuse will find 'knots' etc in muscles you didn't know you had. If you get a very slow and erotic oily wank at the end of it all the better. However that is not a necessity. Yes by the fact they provide a sexual service they are prostitutes, but they are prostitutes who are also qualified in massaging.

You just can't get the same service from an escort, in fact a lot will tell you they're useless at massages. What you can get from them, if you pick the right one, is a good shag which when I want that that's who I see.

You tell me what's the better value.
I want a massage - I see a good masseuse get exactly what I want and pay  £35/£40 + £20 for HE = £60 for the hour.
I want a massage - I see a prossie get a shit massage + other services I don't want and pay £60 - £80 for half an hour

I see the better value in getting what I want.

If people don't like massages or see them as a waste that's fair enough, their choice, just don't tell me what I like or what I would do in any given situation or even what massage provider I would see in a situation.

 
 

[mr.bluesky]

To put this another way, I have no aches and pains, injuries or any other physical problem that needs sorting out, what I do have, on occasion, is a desire to have a proper massage and my preference is for the provider to, not only be very good at it, but to be female as well. I have, quite often, been to a masseuse that I know full well to be totally legit, even as far as keeping your boxers on and being covered with a towel, because I know the massage will be excellent.

A good masseuse will find 'knots' etc in muscles you didn't know you had. If you get a very slow and erotic oily wank at the end of it all the better. However that is not a necessity. Yes by the fact they provide a sexual service they are prostitutes, but they are prostitutes who are also qualified in massaging.

You just can't get the same service from an escort, in fact a lot will tell you they're useless at massages. What you can get from them, if you pick the right one, is a good shag which when I want that that's who I see.

You tell me what's the better value.
I want a massage - I see a good masseuse get exactly what I want and pay  £35/£40 + £20 for HE = £60 for the hour.
I want a massage - I see a prossie get a shit massage + other services I don't want and pay £60 - £80 for half an hour

I see the better value in getting what I want.

If people don't like massages or see them as a waste that's fair enough, their choice, just don't tell me what I like or what I would do in any given situation or even what massage provider I would see in a situation.

 

Good reply ,  I tend to prefer  fbsm to a full on punt but that's not to say I don't enjoy a full on service. I see a regular lady if I want a full service and a number of regulars for a massage with a happy ending.
The best of both worlds.Like you say girls who give a full service are usually crap at giving a massage with the odd exception

[sir wanksalot]

To put this another way, I have no aches and pains, injuries or any other physical problem that needs sorting out, what I do have, on occasion, is a desire to have a proper massage and my preference is for the provider to, not only be very good at it, but to be female as well. I have, quite often, been to a masseuse that I know full well to be totally legit, even as far as keeping your boxers on and being covered with a towel, because I know the massage will be excellent.

A good masseuse will find 'knots' etc in muscles you didn't know you had. If you get a very slow and erotic oily wank at the end of it all the better. However that is not a necessity. Yes by the fact they provide a sexual service they are prostitutes, but they are prostitutes who are also qualified in massaging.

You just can't get the same service from an escort, in fact a lot will tell you they're useless at massages. What you can get from them, if you pick the right one, is a good shag which when I want that that's who I see.

You tell me what's the better value.
I want a massage - I see a good masseuse get exactly what I want and pay  £35/£40 + £20 for HE = £60 for the hour.
I want a massage - I see a prossie get a shit massage + other services I don't want and pay £60 - £80 for half an hour

I see the better value in getting what I want.

If people don't like massages or see them as a waste that's fair enough, their choice, just don't tell me what I like or what I would do in any given situation or even what massage provider I would see in a situation.

 

Fair enough but not everyone is the same as you.

On this and other boards there is a fevered frenzy of posts whenever there's a new attractive masseuse on the circuit with punters falling over themselves to find out whether she gets her kit off or what extras she provides.

[Titti Tatti]

All of the above plus they are convenient and easy to book walk in whenever you have a spare hour.

Personally I get nothing from strip joints, but as there are a number of them I conclude others do.  Don't bother explaining the attraction, I still won't get it.

[od13218]

"Fair enough but not everyone is the same as you"
Indeed. Which makes it pretty pointless to argue with someone about why they like something you don't!

[daviemac]

"Fair enough but not everyone is the same as you"
Indeed. Which makes it pretty pointless to argue with someone about why they like something you don't!

That's very true, a question was asked in this thread and I answered it from my point of view giving the reasons I use massage places, I don't pretend to speak for everyone.

Trouble is people can't accept my answer and disagree with my reasons then start telling me what I think and what I would do in any given set of circumstances.   

 

[sir wanksalot]

"Fair enough but not everyone is the same as you"
Indeed. Which makes it pretty pointless to argue with someone about why they like something you don't!

Not really as I wasn't arguing with someone about why they like something I don't. I was only saying that I don't get it. In other words, I was exercising my right to have a different opinion than Davie (because he's the one who seems to have taken the most offence).

If you read Davie's comments properly,"If I want anything sexual I see an escort" suggests that he doesn't consider a happy ending as a sexual service which baffled me as I don't consider it any different to a normal punt in that regards.

A lady may be a fully trained psychiatrist and counsel me for 25 mins before giving me a blow job. It doesn't make it any less of a sexual service though.

I understand that some people enjoy a "proper" massage but happy ending massages by their very nature usually mean that the client has to find the masseuse physically attractive and they probably seek out ladies who float their boat.

No idea why some people are getting so defensive about it. I'm not judging only saying that I don't get it.

[mr.bluesky]

I understand that some people enjoy a "proper" massage but happy ending massages by their very nature usually mean that the client has to find the masseuse physically attractive and they probably seek out ladies who float their boat

I don't think physical attraction plays a big part in this .When someone's rubbing your Todger in a sensual way attraction goes out the window. I think physical attraction has more to do with a full on service. Who wants to poke an ugly bird. Over the years I have had a lot of good massages from women who were nothing special to look at but knew how to handle a cock. Likewise I'VE had a full on service from stunning looking women but we're totally clueless when it came to how to turn a man on

[daviemac]

If you read Davie's comments properly,"If I want anything sexual I see an escort" suggests that he doesn't consider a happy ending as a sexual service which baffled me as I don't consider it any different to a normal punt in that regards.

What's pissing me off is you keep telling me what I think and you're doing it again. You are welcome to have your own opinion just stop telling me what mine is.

I'll try and explain once more in the simplest way I can think of.

If I'm sitting in the house and I fancy something sexual with a girl be that just intimate contact, wank, full sex, blow job, RO or whatever, I will book an escort.
If I want a good massage I will book a good masseuse and have a good massage, if I happen to get a wank at the end that's a bonus not a necessity and is a thing I will quite happily do without.

On your other point.  It seems you're very good at telling me what I think but not so good at reading. -- 

A good masseuse will find 'knots' etc in muscles you didn't know you had. If you get a very slow and erotic oily wank at the end of it all the better. However that is not a necessity. Yes by the fact they provide a sexual service they are prostitutes, but they are prostitutes who are also qualified in massaging.

As I have actually visited massage places on numerous occasions, posted reviews and comments on the NE massage thread, I think I should know my own mind. 

Perhaps you would like to share you experiences of the massage scene.    
 

[sir wanksalot]

What's pissing me off is you keep telling me what I think and you're doing it again. You are welcome to have your own opinion just stop telling me what mine is.

No need to be so overly defensive about this.

I am not telling you what you think, only reminding you of what you said.

I couldn't give a rat's arse why you prefer happy ending massages compared to booking an escort. Everyone's different and each to their own.