why are so many punters paraniod?

[winkywanky]

Why were you late WW? Were you up to no good or were you covering your tracks????

I never cover my tracks, that would be so boring  .

[Matium]

why are so many punters paraniod? No laws are being broken. do most punters have an anxiety disorder?

Single punters have nothing to fear.

Married punters will see their world destroyed if their wives ever find out.

Discretion is paramount.

[Waterhouse]

Single punters have nothing to fear.

Married punters will see their world destroyed if their wives ever find out.

Discretion is paramount.

Far too much of a generalisation. 

I doubt that I’d be upfront and just tell her (maybe one day - never say never), but if my wife found out I’d discuss/explain/justify my away games with something along the lines of “well what did you expect?”, or similar.

It may change things at home in the short term, possibly longer,  but it certainly wouldn’t destroy my world or trigger a divorce or separation.

[MilleMiglia]

Single punters have nothing to fear.

Married punters will see their world destroyed if their wives ever find out.

Discretion is paramount.

I beg to differ, regarding the single man; I, for one, would need to seek alternative employment. My guess is that any company whose terms and conditions included some sort of disrepute clause would have no problem with bringing it into play. I also think that you would risk becoming something of a social pariah.

[Blackpool Rock]

Far too much of a generalisation. 

I doubt that I’d be upfront and just tell her (maybe one day - never say never), but if my wife found out I’d discuss/explain/justify my away games with something along the lines of “well what did you expect?”, or similar.

It may change things at home in the short term, possibly longer,  but it certainly wouldn’t destroy my world or trigger a divorce or separation.

Possibly a bit over confident there, only one way to find out though 

[daviemac]

Single punters have nothing to fear.

So being a punter is quite acceptable to family members, employers, friends of every single male.   Really??? you know this how?? 

[Waterhouse]

Possibly a bit over confident there, only one way to find out though 

Not over confident at all. For sure there would be questions, fallout, tears, but never a divorce or separation. Unless you were me and lived my life, you couldn’t know.
 

[datwabbit]

?? But then he won’t be in when the WG arrives ??

You don't want to be in when the WG arrives. She'll know where you live. Best to meet her on a street corner nearby and walk to yours via a weird route.

[LLPunting]

I beg to differ, regarding the single man; I, for one, would need to seek alternative employment. My guess is that any company whose terms and conditions included some sort of disrepute clause would have no problem with bringing it into play. I also think that you would risk becoming something of a social pariah.

Punting is legal so disrepute clause would only nuke you if you outed yourself as some kind of abusive punter.  Any revelation by a third party would introduce invasion of privacy charges and suit for wrongful dismissal.

[LLPunting]

Not over confident at all. For sure there would be questions, fallout, tears, but never a divorce or separation. Unless you were me and lived my life, you couldn’t know.

Infidelity is legal grounds for divorce isn't it?

[Metalgear2018]

Fuck it!!! You only live once. You can die at any moment.

[LLPunting]

You don't want to be in when the WG arrives. She'll know where you live. Best to meet her on a street corner nearby and walk to yours via a weird route.

What, and ensure she switches off her phone and doesn't see road name and house number?  Presuming she has no sense of direction and no memory for places.

Punting from a residence that exposes your real life is foolish, especially if you're not on your own.

[bhudda]

Not over confident at all. For sure there would be questions, fallout, tears, but never a divorce or separation. Unless you were me and lived my life, you couldn’t know.

You keep your wife chained up in the cellar?

[Blackpool Rock]

Not over confident at all. For sure there would be questions, fallout, tears, but never a divorce or separation. Unless you were me and lived my life, you couldn’t know.

No you think you know but you don't as everybody has their breaking point.
A bit like this case where the guy abused his wife for years until she snapped and killed him, bet he never saw that coming 
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[southcoastpunter]

Punting is legal so disrepute clause would only nuke you if you outed yourself as some kind of abusive punter.  Any revelation by a third party would introduce invasion of privacy charges and suit for wrongful dismissal.

"social" acceptance (or rather non acceptance) rather than just the legality of an action can be a valid issue in claims of bringing a company or organisation into disrepute. It obviously depends on the job in question and all the circumstances.

So it could be an issue for both single and married men.

[20jay]

Who is so afraid that anyone could point to him and cray "PUNTER !!! " those should, in a good middle-class style, shag only his wife or girlfriend  and not spreading out panic and hysteria . No risk no fun 

[tynetunnel]

You keep your wife chained up in the cellar?

Doesn’t everyone?

[Blackpool Rock]

Doesn’t everyone?

Certainly not, some of us have sheds 

[MrMatrix]

Infidelity is legal grounds for divorce isn't it?

Normally yes. But his personal circumstances, as indeed many of us may be sufficently different to weather such a storm. I don't suppose its a shit storm any of us want to experience, but there are normally reasons why punters end up taking the hobby up. And normally its preceded by years of arguements about lack of sex.   

[David50]

why are so many punters paraniod? No laws are being broken. do most punters have an anxiety disorder?

A lot do seem paranoid if they do not have a separate punting phone . My wife has never once asked to look at my phone , If she did it would not matter as no escort numbers are saved , made calls are all deleted.  Admittedly I only see escorts a few times a year .

[Jonestown]

Whist infidelity is grounds for divorce the punter would not normally face sanction by the court unless his punting expenditure had significantly deprived the wife/family in regard to living standards, in which case any financial settlement might/would take into account family monies he had expended.
So I believe, and also, never ever underestimate how unhinged a wife can become when she finds out her spouse is a punter.

[bhudda]

Doesn’t everyone?

Not me ... the washing machine is in the kitchen!

[Thecunninglinguist]

I'm paranoid my mum will find out.

She will know when she comes to wash your "special sock" and it's not as sticky as usual.

[MrMatrix]

She will know when she comes to wash your "special sock" and it's not as sticky as usual.

Youve been looking at that mumsnet thread 

[Home Alone]

Certainly not, some of us have sheds 

[scutty brown]

She will know when she comes to wash your "special sock" and it's not as sticky as usual.

Socks? I thought thats what glove puppets are for.
Which hand do you prefer? Sooty or Sweep?

[smiths]

Punting is legal so disrepute clause would only nuke you if you outed yourself as some kind of abusive punter.  Any revelation by a third party would introduce invasion of privacy charges and suit for wrongful dismissal.

By which time your work colleagues and bosses know or think you are a punter as these things get out. There was a punter who was a civil servant, he booked a WG who he gave far too much true personal info to. She outed him to the papers and he got the sack for disrepute and his wife left him. He may or may not of won an employment tribunal but he was already fucked.

There is the law and there is what damage a cunt of a WG could do to a punter who has a job where being a punter is legal as we know but very much looked down upon. And in the jobs terms and conditions may be clauses about acceptable behaviour and bringing the profession into disrepute. Sure you can win an employment tribunal maybe but at what cost to your personal life if you have one and/or your professional life.

[freeze44]

By which time your work colleagues and bosses know or think you are a punter as these things get out. There was a punter who was a civil servant, he booked a WG who he gave far too much true personal info to. She outed him to the papers and he got the sack for disrepute and his wife left him. He may or may not of won an employment tribunal but he was already fucked.

There is the law and there is what damage a cunt of a WG could do to a punter who has a job where being a punter is legal as we know but very much looked down upon. And in the jobs terms and conditions may be clauses about acceptable behaviour and bringing the profession into disrepute. Sure you can win an employment tribunal maybe but at what cost to your personal life if you have one and/or your professional life.

+1 and even if held onto your job then your career is fucked...esp this day and age!! Imagine the workplace womens group getting hold of that info 

[LLPunting]

By which time your work colleagues and bosses know or think you are a punter as these things get out. There was a punter who was a civil servant, he booked a WG who he gave far too much true personal info to. She outed him to the papers and he got the sack for disrepute and his wife left him. He may or may not of won an employment tribunal but he was already fucked.

There is the law and there is what damage a cunt of a WG could do to a punter who has a job where being a punter is legal as we know but very much looked down upon. And in the jobs terms and conditions may be clauses about acceptable behaviour and bringing the profession into disrepute. Sure you can win an employment tribunal maybe but at what cost to your personal life if you have one and/or your professional life.

Fair point, forgot to account for social suicide lemmings who get all fluffy with the malevolent or unhinged hooker.  Pretty extreme exception case though and any punter revealing such detail is kinda asking for the nuke to fall.

Given punting is legal we're talking moral outrage here, the personal reputational damage is done as Max Mosley and others like Hugh Grant have shown, but suits and compensation can be won and life goes on.  Right to be forgotten can be won against the search engines.  Not being a public figure should also play in Joe punter's favour.  There's no requirement to detail published articles in job applications and one can always change one's name.

[LLPunting]

+1 and even if held onto your job then your career is fucked...esp this day and age!! Imagine the workplace womens group getting hold of that info 

That would amount to harassment and you'd win further compensation again, enough to enjoy more punts and move on to other things or stay and have the harassers either muzzled or fired.  Remember punting is legal.  It's not like you raped or assaulted anyone and then convicted.

[LLPunting]

Normally yes. But his personal circumstances, as indeed many of us may be sufficently different to weather such a storm. I don't suppose its a shit storm any of us want to experience, but there are normally reasons why punters end up taking the hobby up. And normally its preceded by years of arguements about lack of sex.   

So this supposes that the wife doesn't want to divorce despite the betrayal of vows.  That would be pretty exceptional given she has all the legal favour to take all she's due in UK law from the common estate i.e. everything she's enabled or enhanced since the beginning of the marriage.  If it were fiscal motive then such riches would have to be in the sole trust of punter and ring-fenced from divorce proceeds.  Again all seems pretty exceptional circumstances rather than that of Joe punter.
You'll have to explain the mindset of people who spend years in acrimonious bondage to one another and both insist on continuing the situation when an enforceable exit is presented to one or both parties.

[smiths]

Fair point, forgot to account for social suicide lemmings who get all fluffy with the malevolent or unhinged hooker.  Pretty extreme exception case though and any punter revealing such detail is kinda asking for the nuke to fall.

Given punting is legal we're talking moral outrage here, the personal reputational damage is done as Max Mosley and others like Hugh Grant have shown, but suits and compensation can be won and life goes on.  Right to be forgotten can be won against the search engines.  Not being a public figure should also play in Joe punter's favour.  There's no requirement to detail published articles in job applications and one can always change one's name.

I totally disagree about your kinda asking for the nuke to fall point, some punters are naïve or stupid but they don't deserve to have their lives destroyed by some low life WG in my book. Moral outrage in this day and age can be enough to fuck you right up. As I said above sure you may win compo later on by which time the wife and kids don't want to know you. And assuming you don't want to move city or country in some professions its a small world where tittle tattle gets about.

You are talking about legalities and compo which is valid but I am talking about what could occur in the real world outside the scope of legalities.

[smiths]

+1 and even if held onto your job then your career is fucked...esp this day and age!! Imagine the workplace womens group getting hold of that info 

Exactly, the femi-nazis could have a field day, its easy to spread it around nowadays, by the time you could do anything about it if you could its been seen by fuck knows how many people.

[Waterhouse]

So this supposes that the wife doesn't want to divorce despite the betrayal of vows.  That would be pretty exceptional given she has all the legal favour to take all she's due in UK law from the common estate i.e. everything she's enabled or enhanced since the beginning of the marriage.  If it were fiscal motive then such riches would have to be in the sole trust of punter and ring-fenced from divorce proceeds.  Again all seems pretty exceptional circumstances rather than that of Joe punter.
You'll have to explain the mindset of people who spend years in acrimonious bondage to one another and both insist on continuing the situation when an enforceable exit is presented to one or both parties.

No fiscal or financial motives, reasons or caveats, nor is the relationship acrimonious.  More than half my friends are female as is my closest friend.  My missus has no probs with this.  To throw in a bit of context a few years back I found a website called TantricHeart, which I now know to be that of the well known but now retired Savanya.  I mentioned it to my better half and described the massage and HE that was promised and she actually suggested that I should try it.  I didn't then but wish I had now.

Yes it would cause an upset for a while, possibly longer, if she found out I was punting, but as I've already said, grounds or otherwise, it wouldn’t trigger a divorce.  You'd have to be me and live in my shoes to understand that - and it's not overconfidence on my part or keeping her chained up in the cellar - she'd be likely to broach a bottle of 1983 Fonseca just to wind me up.
 
 

[bhudda]

she'd be likely to broach a bottle of 1983 Fonseca just to wind me up.
 

don't you keep that chained up in the cellar?

[Waterhouse]

don't you keep that chained up in the cellar?

Not under lock and key, but now you mention it and given it's the last of two that I had... !

[LLPunting]

No fiscal or financial motives, reasons or caveats, nor is the relationship acrimonious.  More than half my friends are female as is my closest friend.  My missus has no probs with this.  To throw in a bit of context a few years back I found a website called TantricHeart, which I now know to be that of the well known but now retired Savanya.  I mentioned it to my better half and described the massage and HE that was promised and she actually suggested that I should try it.  I didn't then but wish I had now.

Yes it would cause an upset for a while, possibly longer, if she found out I was punting, but as I've already said, grounds or otherwise, it wouldn’t trigger a divorce.  You'd have to be me and live in my shoes to understand that - and it's not overconfidence on my part or keeping her chained up in the cellar - she'd be likely to broach a bottle of 1983 Fonseca just to wind me up.
 

 

Never took you for a lemming baring all to strangers.

You're a "lucky" sod presuming she fulfills you in all manner of other ways.   

[Waterhouse]

Never took you for a lemming baring all to strangers.

You're a "lucky" sod presuming she fulfills you in all manner of other ways.   

Not even close to the tip of the iceberg.   

 

[PatMacGroin]

why are so many punters paraniod? No laws are being broken. do most punters have an anxiety disorder?

How did you know that I'm paranoid? Who has been talking to you about me?

[stevedave]

I'm not paranoid, who said I'm paranoid? Haha, nope, no paranoia here, no, none at all. Fuck you

[catweazle]

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

[MrMatrix]

So this supposes that the wife doesn't want to divorce despite the betrayal of vows.  That would be pretty exceptional given she has all the legal favour to take all she's due in UK law from the common estate i.e. everything she's enabled or enhanced since the beginning of the marriage.  If it were fiscal motive then such riches would have to be in the sole trust of punter and ring-fenced from divorce proceeds.  Again all seems pretty exceptional circumstances rather than that of Joe punter.
You'll have to explain the mindset of people who spend years in acrimonious bondage to one another and both insist on continuing the situation when an enforceable exit is presented to one or both parties.

A sexless relationship isnt necessarily acrimonious (it doesn't help) - It may well work in many other areas. Certainly discovery would cause major upset.-agreed.
But I can think of 2 ex members of this forum who've been discovered and their relationships are still in tact. I can also think of 2 who've got their OHs permission to punt as well.
I would also agree I know a lot more discovered members who are now separated.

You seem to put a lot of emphasis on betrayal of vows- why is that? I seem to recall there was something about commitment and love when they take their vows when they got married

[smiths]

A sexless relationship isnt necessarily acrimonious (it doesn't help) - It may well work in many other areas. Certainly discovery would cause major upset.-agreed.
But I can think of 2 ex members of this forum who've been discovered and their relationships are still in tact. I can also think of 2 who've got their OHs permission to punt as well.
I would also agree I know a lot more discovered members who are now separated.

You seem to put a lot of emphasis on betrayal of vows- why is that? I seem to recall there was something about commitment and love when they take their vows when they got married

It also depends on the woman of course. I have a punting mate who was caught out bang to rights by his wife, he was in the doghouse with her for a few months but she didn't leave him, and she may or may not really believe it was a one-off and he is now the faithful husband which he isn't.

Also some women are doormats who put up with hubbies cheating for various reasons, status as they see it being 1 possible. Some women view their bloke fucking a WG as absolutely disgusting and what pox the WG/s may of given them, WGs to such women are among the lowest of the low. I know this from Mumsnet.

[mh]

There's a current active thread titled "Most stupid question a WG has asked?".

Perhaps we need another for "Most stupid question a punter has asked on here?"

 

[Beamer]

There's a current active thread titled "Most stupid question a WG has asked?".

Perhaps we need another for "Most stupid question a punter has asked on here?"

 

Agree.
Recently we seem to have been subjected to many Threads that are a waste of space

[Silvercity]

I once had a punter that I noticed  used to put a hat on when approaching my building,and stuffing it in his pocket upon leaving, when he thought he was out of eyesight, unashamed hoor that I am, I laughed and called him out on it and asked him not to use his punting guise, as the only purpose it served was  making  him look more like a punter. 

[django0700]

why are so many punters paraniod? No laws are being broken. do most punters have an anxiety disorder?

Post some reviews after punting and then let us know about paranoia and disorders.....There is a difference between playing Russian roulette using a revolver (risk reward etc etc) and playing using an automatic with one in the chamber..(Stupidity).…..

[20jay]

Post some reviews after punting and then let us know about paranoia and disorders.....There is a difference between playing Russian roulette using a revolver (risk reward etc etc) and playing using an automatic with one in the chamber..(Stupidity).…..

Zero punts --> followed by a couple of posts- his last one « on: December 05, 2016, 02:04:44 am » Streisand effect.

[theejaculator]

DON'T FEED THE TROLL!

I'm sure the OP is getting hard and fapping away over the fact his inane post has started a two page thread

[MrMatrix]

It also depends on the woman of course. I have a punting mate who was caught out bang to rights by his wife, he was in the doghouse with her for a few months but she didn't leave him, and she may or may not really believe it was a one-off and he is now the faithful husband which he isn't.

Also some women are doormats who put up with hubbies cheating for various reasons, status as they see it being 1 possible. Some women view their bloke fucking a WG as absolutely disgusting and what pox the WG/s may of given them, WGs to such women are among the lowest of the low. I know this from Mumsnet.

Indeed we do.