Punter no shows - discuss

[20jay]

The more I speak to WG's, the more I'm told about a punter arranging a meet but not turning up. Seems to be quite common but also seems quite wrong.

I'm sure they'll be UKP members who are dentists, accountants, the sort of people you arrange to see to do work for a fee. If I arranged to see my dentist and didn't show up, I'd be charged for it and I'd accept that. Now I'm not suggesting WG's should start charging for punter no shows but why do some punters treat them differently? Some of you'll say she's just a Sex Worker etc etc but like it or not, it's their livelihood.

My take: you'll not get me doing it. As I've unfortunately had to do in the past, if I have to cancel it'll be with plenty of notice. A no show is discourteous.

Discuss ....

Then you would have to discuss who paid your time, when you go to the appointment to the doctor and he does not open the door. Because the doctor only gives you the postal code but not the house number. Or you have booked with the dentist and turns out when you arrive he is an ophthalmologist.

Unfortunately it happened again 2 times to me in the last time that I got the post code, as I arrived, no more answer, not on the phone , not on text. A couple miles for nothing. Also always a evergreen, the girl does not fit the photos and description.

In return, you can expect that you will meet the person you have booked, and will not let you down in a road without further information.

[MrMatrix]

I'm sure No shows are a Fucker for WGs... From a punter perspective... Radio silence is a Fucker aswell TBH!...

Perhaps you could come up with a solution to both...

Agreed. Happens time and time again you get buggered about just 5 minutes, just another 10 by which time I've probably moved on. If I agree a time I WILL be there. I dont like being mucked about so I wont muck SPs about - simples

I've even turned up to an agreed booking made an hour earlier to be told they've moved hotels................. to another town

[20jay]

Agreed. Happens time and time again you get buggered about just 5 minutes, just another 10 by which time I've probably moved on. If I agree a time I WILL be there. I dont like being mucked about so I wont muck SPs about - simples

I've even turned up to an agreed booking made an hour earlier to be told they've moved hotels................. to another town

If you are not a regular, I think you will not be much valued, as in every business. I could imagine If some ladies have a better deal than you, they'll let you down. Remember ,it's all about money .

But I agree , if one makes an appointment, then one had to attend in time, or had to give notice.

[AnthG]

If you are not a regular, I think you will not be much valued, as in every business. I could imagine If some ladies have a better deal than you, they'll let you down. Remember ,it's all about money .

For many girls, even if you are a regular, you still are not valued very much, or even at all. Many of these girls do not go into this job due to their brilliant business acumen.

[MrMatrix]

For many girls, even if you are a regular, you still are not valued very much, or even at all. Many of these girls do not go into this job due to their brilliant business acumen.

True. One regular bumped me for an extra guy ahead of me. She said she forgot  I said I booked that time as I could make it and I cant do the subsequent time you've offered. Actually I could but thats not the point, so she lost my booking and indeed a year on I've not seen her again.
Having said that one SP cancelled as her car broke down on the motor way. She contacted me and I booked her 8am next day. She gave me a £30 discount, so not all SPs are greedy, but this is a rareity in my experience

[blend57]

In summary, some people are assholes.

[winkywanky]

True. One regular bumped me for an extra guy ahead of me. She said she forgot 

That's a bit fucking shit, you must be the only regular who got bumped for a newbie!   

[Jeremy]

That's a bit fucking shit, you must be the only regular who got bumped for a newbie!   

Some WGs get complacent with their regulars, thinking they're guaranteed to visit no matter how shit the service gets. She probably thought he would have rescheduled to see her again, no fuss, whereas here she had a chance to make a good first impression on a newbie and (potentially) gain another regular.

[GingerNuts]

Discuss ....

Is this a post and run thread or will you be joining in the discussion?

[winkywanky]

Some WGs get complacent with their regulars, thinking they're guaranteed to visit no matter how shit the service gets. She probably thought he would have rescheduled to see her again, no fuss, whereas here she had a chance to make a good first impression on a newbie and (potentially) gain another regular.

You're quite right, and I hope Mr. M will forgive me for being somewhat facetious.

She miscalculated though, because now he won't see her again and it's her loss .

[20jay]

Is this a post and run thread or will you be joining in the discussion?

I don't know if there really is something to discuss, it is a thing of good manners to keep appointments, on both sides. Good manners are actually beyond any discussion. One can rather put forward his different points of view why people act in this way. Punter thinks twice or change their mind , the ladies prefer to take a better offer which bring more money.

[daviemac]

Is this a post and run thread or will you be joining in the discussion?

He's been online regularly since he started it, 3.30 today being the latest time. He's just another waste of space who must gets some kind of satisfaction in starting a pointless thread then disappearing.

Unless he misjudged the reaction he would get to his white knight type of post.   

[MrMatrix]

Some WGs get complacent with their regulars, thinking they're guaranteed to visit no matter how shit the service gets. She probably thought he would have rescheduled to see her again, no fuss, whereas here she had a chance to make a good first impression on a newbie and (potentially) gain another regular.

Thats the way I viewed it as well. As a regular I should have thought I would take preference not a newbie. And I'm not prepared to be mucked about. Otherwise they do it tiime again and this wasnt the first time and turned out not to be the last.

You're quite right, and I hope Mr. M will forgive me for being somewhat facetious.

She miscalculated though, because now he won't see her again and it's her loss .

If you are saying I cut my nose off to spite my face you may have a point.  I tried to book her in Reading a few months ago and she blew me out again about 5 hours later, said she wasnt well, yet the green light remained on. But I've always known shes erratic at best of times. I'm not losing sleep over this, plenty more out there And I'm sure shes forgotten all about it.

[Simon_9000]

Is this a post and run thread or will you be joining in the discussion?

I'm quite happy watching the discussion.

[daviemac]

I'm quite happy watching the discussion.

Not a discussion then is it.      

Like I said another waste of space, posting a totally pointless white knight type of thread then sitting back, not what this site's about.   

[Simon_9000]

He's been online regularly since he started it, 3.30 today being the latest time. He's just another waste of space who must gets some kind of satisfaction in starting a pointless thread then disappearing.

Unless he misjudged the reaction he would get to his white knight type of post.   

I think I had misjudged the reaction and can now see views of others. I'm a relative newcomer to the punting world and have always seen local girls so not driven miles, plus never been stood up. I can understand how shit that must be. 

[daviemac]

I think I had misjudged the reaction and can now see views of others. I'm a relative newcomer to the punting world and have always seen local girls so not driven miles, plus never been stood up. I can understand how shit that must be. 

You do realise you are on a site that puts the interests of punters first?  If an escort gets time wasters or no-shows they have their own site to whinge and post warnings about it on.

You've been a member here for 3 1/2 years, plenty of time to understand the ethos of this site. You should be more concerned with the amount of times punters travel, sometimes for an hour or more, to get total radio silence when they get there.

[Simon_9000]

You do realise you are on a site that puts the interests of punters first?  If an escort gets time wasters or no-shows they have their own site to whinge and post warnings about it on.

You've been a member here for 3 1/2 years, plenty of time to understand the ethos of this site. You should be more concerned with the amount of times punters travel, sometimes for an hour or more, to get total radio silence when they get there.

Yes, I do appreciate that. From this thread, it's obvious I've been lucky to not be left sitting in the car after arranging to meet a WG.

[AnthG]

You should be more concerned with the amount of times punters travel, sometimes for an hour or more, to get total radio silence when they get there.

Or pay hundreds for an outcall hotel only for radio silence on the day of the arranged booking
Or to take a day off work for an arranged booking and radio silence on the day of the arranged booking
Or actually check into the hotel with the girl en route then sitting there all night waiting for an outcall that never shows up.

I am more than certain the amount of WGs who mess over punters is more than the amount of punters who mess over WGs. And I know a lot of WGs get messed over. So therefore that shows how bad it is.

The difference is. Punters are customers, you do not mess over customers, ever. Prostitutes of service providers. Its part of any businesses job description that you can get arsey customers. Name me one customer based job where you do not get arsey timewasting customers...

[Moby Dick]

Or pay hundreds for an outcall hotel only for radio silence on the day of the arranged booking
Or to take a day off work for an arranged booking and radio silence on the day of the arranged booking
Or actually check into the hotel with the girl en route then sitting there all night waiting for an outcall that never shows up.

I am more than certain the amount of WGs who mess over punters is more than the amount of punters who mess over WGs. And I know a lot of WGs get messed over. So therefore that shows how bad it is.

The difference is. Punters are customers, you do not mess over customers, ever. Prostitutes of service providers. Its part of any businesses job description that you can get arsey customers. Name me one customer based job where you do not get arsey timewasting customers...

Funeral Directors

[daviemac]

The difference is. Punters are customers, you do not mess over customers, ever. Prostitutes of service providers. Its part of any businesses job description that you can get arsey customers. Name me one customer based job where you do not get arsey timewasting customers...

Another main difference is, on here an escort can come on and try to give an explanation, no matter how lame the excuse is. Punters can't post anything on their sites.

[freeze44]

Funeral Directors

  

gynaecologists 

[Moby Dick]

 

gynaecologists 

Nah I reckon they see some fussy cunts

[Doc Holliday]

gynaecologists 

No they have to deal with a load of timewasting cunts too.

EDIT beaten to it 

[Bonker]

Bounty hunters

[Rochelle]

You do realise you are on a site that puts the interests of punters first?  If an escort gets time wasters or no-shows they have their own site to whinge and post warnings about it on.

You've been a member here for 3 1/2 years, plenty of time to understand the ethos of this site. You should be more concerned with the amount of times punters travel, sometimes for an hour or more, to get total radio silence when they get there.

Number of times

[Workinggal]

I get about 5 or 6 no shows or cancellation  in the first 10 mins

[Flunt]

The more I speak to WG's, the more I'm told about a punter arranging a meet but not turning up. Seems to be quite common but also seems quite wrong.

The best advice I can offer you is to make shorter bookings.

For your discussion: I think it is extremely rare for "punters" to fail to arrive for a booking. If you read the number of negatives on here from punters who have had wasted trips that should be of greater concern to you? If your friendly prostitute has a no show then it's an inconvenience and a PITA to her and another punter who could have been enjoying their time together. Whereas, if I've just driven 50 miles to be greeted by radio silence, I've waster two hours of my life plus the cost of driving 100 miles for nothing.

[Doc Holliday]

For your discussion: I think it is extremely rare for "punters" to fail to arrive for a booking.

Not true .. it's very common. It's shite on both sides of the fence ... always has been ... but would appear 'anecdotally' to be getting much worse for punters. This isn't restricted to punting but unreliability is somewhat endemic in society.

It goes with the punting territory for SPs and punters .. little you can do to stop it just work around it best you can.

[20jay]

The best advice I can offer you is to make shorter bookings.

For your discussion: I think it is extremely rare for "punters" to fail to arrive for a booking. If you read the number of negatives on here from punters who have had wasted trips that should be of greater concern to you? If your friendly prostitute has a no show then it's an inconvenience and a PITA to her and another punter who could have been enjoying their time together. Whereas, if I've just driven 50 miles to be greeted by radio silence, I've waster two hours of my life plus the cost of driving 100 miles for nothing.

I agree, absolutely. As I have already said, to the radio silence comes still the case that the girl has advertised with fake photos, which is very often the case. Most punters listen to their cock and stay, what the ladies hope. Because the guy has driven for miles, he does not go so easy without a punt.

[winkywanky]

Number of times

I'm as anally retentive and gramatically-tedious as the next internet user, but from memory this is the second time you've castigated someone for using amount instead of number.

From what I can see it doesn't matter a jot:

amount
/əˈmaʊnt/
noun
noun: amount; plural noun: amounts

    a quantity of something, especially the total of a thing or things in number, size, value, or extent.



The amount of times you've done this is potentially annoying.

[smiths]

I agree, absolutely. As I have already said, to the radio silence comes still the case that the girl has advertised with fake photos, which is very often the case. Most punters listen to their cock and stay, what the ladies hope. Because the guy has driven for miles, he does not go so easy without a punt.

And while punters continue to stay and punt thinking with their dicks bad WGs will continue to prosper, for me even worse are those who know its a bait and switch but still stay and punt AND some even do a positive review on the switch. Call me picky but no way can a B&S be a positive in my book, they are proven low life scum knowing they are lying to punters from the get go.

My advice to punters is always have a plan B option and I don't mean double book with another WG, my plan B is a regular, makes it easy for me to walk but I do appreciate if a punter has travelled a long way it may not be any good to him, or he may not feel like punting that day anymore.

[Jeremy]

Another main difference is, on here an escort can come on and try to give an explanation, no matter how lame the excuse is. Punters can't post anything on their sites.

In some cases here you will also get an escort's "fan club" rush to defend her honour if her behaviour is called into question. I can't see the same happening on sites where WGs discuss punters.

[trainspotter]

Don't see what the fuss is about. Messing people round is unacceptable whoever you are. WGs should not be fouling things up for punters nor the other way round. Seems pretty obvious.

[20jay]

And while punters continue to stay and punt thinking with their dicks bad WGs will continue to prosper, for me even worse are those who know its a bait and switch but still stay and punt AND some even do a positive review on the switch. Call me picky but no way can a B&S be a positive in my book, they are proven low life scum knowing they are lying to punters from the get go.

My advice to punters is always have a plan B option and I don't mean double book with another WG, my plan B is a regular, makes it easy for me to walk but I do appreciate if a punter has travelled a long way it may not be any good to him, or he may not feel like punting that day anymore.

I have one, two regular girls I visit regularly, in between I try out "new". If I do not find the girl in the pictures at the door, I walk immediately. Okay I don't write reviews every time except it is really bad like Lu1 beside the cinema with always new pictures and phone numbers but always the same girl what will ask you over the speaker about your nationality

[MrMatrix]

And while punters continue to stay and punt thinking with their dicks bad WGs will continue to prosper, for me even worse are those who know its a bait and switch but still stay and punt AND some even do a positive review on the switch. Call me picky but no way can a B&S be a positive in my book, they are proven low life scum knowing they are lying to punters from the get go.

My advice to punters is always have a plan B option and I don't mean double book with another WG, my plan B is a regular, makes it easy for me to walk but I do appreciate if a punter has travelled a long way it may not be any good to him, or he may not feel like punting that day anymore.

Agreed. By default its a negative. However you can qualify it if you've decided to stay and say the replacement was good, but doesnt alter the fact its B&S. I've walked twice this month and should have walked on plan B, but she was pretty so I stayed- still got a negative though

[Home Alone]

I'm as anally retentive and gramatically-tedious as the next internet user, but from memory this is the second time you've castigated someone for using amount instead of number.

From what I can see it doesn't matter a jot:

amount
/əˈmaʊnt/
noun
noun: amount; plural noun: amounts

    a quantity of something, especially the total of a thing or things in number, size, value, or extent.



The amount of times you've done this is potentially annoying.

I agree with you on this, ww.

I also happen to think it's tantamount to Touting in the same way that another SP on here is frequently accused of doing. In this case, the SP made a post which was, at best, tangential to the thread of the debate and at worst an unsubtle reminder that she is still a SP member of this Board.

It seems to me to be a flagrant breach of the 'attention-seeking' provision of Rule 2.

[EnglishRebecca121]

Had a 5pm booking he emails me at 4.48 to say he is stuck in a meeting and can’t make it . 12 mins before the meet start time ?? Also has zero feedback : twat

[Home Alone]

Had a 5pm booking he emails me at 4.48 to say he is stuck in a meeting and can’t make it . 12 mins before the meet start time ?? Also has zero feedback : twat

So are you saying you've got 'a window' at 5.00? How does that comply with the 'attention-seeking' provision of Rule 2?

[finn5555]

Had a 5pm booking he emails me at 4.48 to say he is stuck in a meeting and can’t make it . 12 mins before the meet start time ?? Also has zero feedback : twat

Subtle very subtle 

[20jay]

Had a 5pm booking he emails me at 4.48 to say he is stuck in a meeting and can’t make it . 12 mins before the meet start time ?? Also has zero feedback : twat

...what if he is just around the corner ,10 min travel to you ? And now the meeting lasts longer so that he cannot do it anymore, in that 10 minutes..?

[finn5555]

...what if he is just around the corner ,10 min travel to you ? And now the meeting lasts longer so that he cannot do it anymore, in that 10 minutes..?

Maybe he didn’t want the endless chatting and being forced to stroke her cat 

[20jay]

Maybe he didn’t want the endless chatting and being forced to stroke her cat 

 

[Moby Dick]

I agree with you on this, ww.

I also happen to think it's tantamount to Touting in the same way that another SP on here is frequently accused of doing. In this case, the SP made a post which was, at best, tangential to the thread of the debate and at worst an unsubtle reminder that she is still a SP member of this Board.

It seems to me to be a flagrant breach of the 'attention-seeking' provision of Rule 2.

Agreed but “nit picking” people’s English ain’t gunna make me think I need to go see her.
If anything it’s a reason why not to see her.

[Flunt]

Not true .. it's very common. It's shite on both sides of the fence ... always has been ... but would appear 'anecdotally' to be getting much worse for punters. This isn't restricted to punting but unreliability is somewhat endemic in society.

It goes with the punting territory for SPs and punters .. little you can do to stop it just work around it best you can.

I put punters in quotation marks because I believe it's extremely rare for a punter to go the effort of making a booking and not turn up. That's not to say there aren't a collection of wankers, fantasists and pimps making life difficult for us all.

I think there was a thread a few years ago where I suggested some sort of escrow account where punters paid a deposit to guarantee a booking, I doubt the idea has gained popularity over time. The problem depends where you are in the country, if you're miles from the nearest prostitute then being let down becomes more of an issue. Whether that's radio silence, B&S or some other disappointment, finding a suitable replacement available at short notice can be difficult.

[daviemac]

Agreed but “nit picking” people’s English ain’t gunna make me think I need to go see her.
If anything it’s a reason why not to see her.

I've said before, how an escort posts on fora / forums / a forum (please delete whatever the individual deems incorrect) goes a long way in deciding whether or not I would see them. 'Nit picking' grammar gets an big negative from me. The Gerald Ratner school of marketing springs to mind.   

[Rochelle]

I'm as anally retentive and gramatically-tedious as the next internet user, but from memory this is the second time you've castigated someone for using amount instead of number.

From what I can see it doesn't matter a jot:

amount
/əˈmaʊnt/
noun
noun: amount; plural noun: amounts

    a quantity of something, especially the total of a thing or things in number, size, value, or extent.



The amount of times you've done this is potentially annoying.

Number of times, I was only taking the piss a little bit when I mentioned it, but you are wrong.

[Jeremy]

Was going to make a snarky comment asking the amount of times people have visited a WG based on their superior grammar, but then I think of the amount of shockingly-written profiles that have turned me off seeing a girl so maybe Rochelle is onto something here

[James999]

Had a 5pm booking he emails me at 4.48 to say he is stuck in a meeting and can’t make it .

Take advantage of the free time and do your nails 

(That's if the booking / cancellation actually happened of course)

[daviemac]

Number of times, I was only taking the piss a little bit when I mentioned it, but you are wrong.

I think that's 4 punters now you've put off by piss taking, you really have been studying Gerald.