A safe Bareback?

[ffstiap]

Hey everyone

My GF and I sometimes get a WG for an FFM but the perpetual messing with condoms does destroy the flow somewhat.  I've been contemplating a punt (feasibly study!) where the three of us meet up at an std clinic and then, a week later, when the results are in having a bareback FFM.

I do realise that there is a residual risk etc and and I don't want the topic to enter that quagmire but rather has anyone tried doing this and how did it work.  Where is the best place to find a WG for something like this.

This one is high, high on my bucket list!

[anonymouse72]

So you expect and trust the WG concerned not to work between having the test and getting the result? The test is irrelevant otherwise and your relying on her not contracting anything in the period in between. Good luck.

[MajorPayne]

So you expect and trust the WG concerned not to work between having the test and getting the result? The test is irrelevant otherwise and your relying on her not contracting anything in the period in between. Good luck.

+1

[mh]

You're deluding yourself. Barebacking a WG willing to fuck a punter bareback is a risk. Risk it if you want but I wouldn't.

[bhudda]

I guess at least when you catch something you won't have any awkward explanations to make to your gf

[Fuzzyduck]

So you expect and trust the WG concerned not to work between having the test and getting the result? The test is irrelevant otherwise and your relying on her not contracting anything in the period in between. Good luck.

+2

If I were a SP with some smarts I'd ask to be compensated for a week's worth of lost earnings. Then of course if a regular called up and asked to do a MMF creampie I would of course duly oblige on the QT.

[workinallweek]

 So the girl doesnt work for at least a week between the test and the fuck  say 10 days  thats 20 sessions at her rate say £150 an hour  so 3 grand plus the price of your punt .. and you have to trust her ,if she gives bb without the test can you trust her ?

[CheeseBoard]

Dont forget, if you review her, she will go on the barebacker thread which may be a little career limiting for her.

Unless your net is cast for someone who is on the thread already 

[ffstiap]

Thank you for your input Cheeseboard.  Valid point taken on board.

As for the rest of you, if a girl practices safe sex and is clean when tested than the risk that she would catch something in that one week would be small.  There are plenty of girls that don't work in a brothel and only punt once in a while.  I do agree that it would require a careful selection of a SP. 

[Charlie Chalk]

Thank you for your input Cheeseboard.  Valid point taken on board.

As for the rest of you, if a girl practices safe sex and is clean when tested than the risk that she would catch something in that one week would be small.  There are plenty of girls that don't work in a brothel and only punt once in a while.  I do agree that it would require a careful selection of a SP.

If the girl practices safe sex then she wouldn’t be barebacking you! You would be relying on her not barebacking anyone in the intervening period and she’d be relying on both you and your girlfriend doing the same. Too much risk for all parties. Any girl not usually offering bareback would be mad to consider it as should you be OP.

[mh]

If the girl practices safe sex then she wouldn’t be barebacking you!

 

[ffstiap]

FFS most people bareback with someone.  Half of you bareback with your wife and punt/cheat on the slide and your wifes probably do the same.  The thread is not about weather barebacking is a good idea or not but if there is a way to mitigate the risk.  Can you please stop making the same point over and over and over again.   

[mh]

FFS most people bareback with someone.

Not with a sex worker. 

[ffstiap]

Yes, I might just have heard this already.  Have you any suggestions or alternatives then? 

How about hitting one of those student chat rooms and offering a ton of money or hiring a porn star with a history of STD testing.  What happened to those places where you could 'hire' a long term girlfriend?

[winkywanky]

In essence what you are after is a chocolate unicorn (with golden hooves).

You want for you to all happily swan off down your local STI Clinic and have a test together? Perhaps all go in the same room at once to save time  . That is never going to happen, no WG would do that.

If you really want a BB MFF then just select some AW WGs who do BB, they're not all hideous skanks, and message them with your plan.

But perhaps don't ask such a silly question here (and it has been proven to be silly) to somehow seek validation. You won't get it. Despite your rationalisation of it, it is what it is, a BB punt with a WG which involves your other half (at least it's all above board in that regard).

The other thing you could try, and you would have a chance if your other half is reasonably hot, is to go on Tinder. I reckon you'd have a strong chance of success there.

Best of luck  .

[Hantsolo]

What if it was the other way round? Would you let your wife be fucked bareback with a guy that you’d been to the clinic with a week before and who had promised you he’d been a good boy and not fucked anyone since the results?

All sounds very risky to me!

[winkywanky]

The other thing you could do of course, is to select all the WGs in your area who DON'T do BB, and ask them if they're interested. So you only get a WG who never does BB...apart from especially for you of course, because you have such a cunning plan...and then they can just go back to being a non-BB WG and it'll be just your little secret between you all. In reality that's what this is.

Try not to be offended when they all write back to you, telling you to fuck off. And then don't be surprised when you get banned on AW for doing it.

[Ironrose]

I guess at least when you catch something you won't have any awkward explanations to make to your gf

 

[Belgarion]

Hey everyone

My GF and I sometimes get a WG for an FFM but the perpetual messing with condoms does destroy the flow somewhat.  I've been contemplating a punt (feasibly study!) where the three of us meet up at an std clinic and then, a week later, when the results are in having a bareback FFM.

I do realise that there is a residual risk etc and and I don't want the topic to enter that quagmire but rather has anyone tried doing this and how did it work.  Where is the best place to find a WG for something like this.

This one is high, high on my bucket list!

Looking at your reviews, you are graduating from HR to Bareback FFM

Something stinks

[20jay]

Hey everyone

My GF and I sometimes get a WG for an FFM but the perpetual messing with condoms does destroy the flow somewhat.  I've been contemplating a punt (feasibly study!) where the three of us meet up at an std clinic and then, a week later, when the results are in having a bareback FFM.

I do realise that there is a residual risk etc and and I don't want the topic to enter that quagmire but rather has anyone tried doing this and how did it work.  Where is the best place to find a WG for something like this.

This one is high, high on my bucket list!

There is not such a thing as "a safe Bareback" there is always a rest risk .. the same If you leave your house in the morning. If you are all tested and trust each other ..thats it , everything else is illusion 

[Fitsarahgfe]

As for the rest of you, if a girl practices safe sex and is clean when tested than the risk that she would catch something in that one week would be small.

Hi,
OP, have you ever heard of something called "window period"? There is always a possibility that she was unlucky and catched something a day before the tests being done.
I allowed myself to copy this from NHS website:

The 'window period' is the length of time it can take between catching an infection and when it will show in a test. The window period for the most common STI tests are:

Chlamydia and Gonorrhoea - Up to 2 weeks
HIV - 4 weeks
Syphilis - 12 weeks


TL;DR

Not safe, nor for the WG who would accept your request, neither for you.

[mh]

Yes, I might just have heard this already.  Have you any suggestions or alternatives then? 

I think this can all be resolved fully with a simple referendum... 

Just because you want a "solution" doesn't mean there is one, or at least not one that will satisfy you.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

I think there isn't a member on this board who would not want to bareback a girl, but as we all know, or ought to know!, it is just not a safe option as it all stands even finding your number 3 lady on Tinder or anywhere else there is nothing to suggest that a "civvie" would be a safe or safer option i reckon that most all WG's would be a less likely source as they, or most all, understand that its not the done thimg and the risks involved.

Course there are girls who are willing to BB but the risks?

I think that your bloody lucky to have a GF who will entertian the idea of a FFM meeting anyway so a bit of faffing around with the rubber is a small inconvenince.

Come the day, and i very much doubt it will be anytime soon, of a device like the scanner thy have on star wars where you could know if someone had or was devloping an infection then fine but till then?

[southcoastpunter]

Yes Op - i have done it and it worked like a dream! Go ahead to do it yourself. Little risk as you say.!!

(well thats what he wants to hear so i have obliged - even though it maybe not 100% true!)

[Lewis]

Christmas school holidays get earlier each year.

[pewpewpew]

My GF and I sometimes get a WG for an FFM

You lucky fucker

[ffstiap]

This tread has been a disappointment.  I thought I could get discussion and advice from fellow punters and instead I got dogma and judgement.

For all those who say any risk is just too great, remember that condoms fail and before you get OWO or lick out that pussy do have a look at the NHS website:External Link/Members Only  Don't want to?  Well, her is the list: chlamydia, herpes, genital warts, gonorrhoea, hepatitis A,B and C, HIV and syphilis!

As an aside, I did get some PMs which were helpful / supportive and it pains me that they did not not feel comfortable posting here ... although I do now understand them.

[Sigma]

Why not just join a swingers website, I'm sure you could find a regular fuck buddy with a bit of effort.

[sensualencounter]

This tread has been a disappointment.  I thought I could get discussion and advice from fellow punters and instead I got dogma and judgement.

For all those who say any risk is just too great, remember that condoms fail and before you get OWO or lick out that pussy do have a look at the NHS website:External Link/Members Only  Don't want to?  Well, her is the list: chlamydia, herpes, genital warts, gonorrhoea, hepatitis A,B and C, HIV and syphilis!

As an aside, I did get some PMs which were helpful / supportive and it pains me that they did not not feel comfortable posting here ... although I do now understand them.

They won’t post them here as they’ll get shit for being BBing cunts. It’s irresponsible and blights this industry. You’re a fuckwit if you really think that your plan would work. As has been pointed out, some STIs take up to 6 months to show. And you expect a WG to abstain from sex for that long just to fulfil your fantasy and just because it’s a bit of a faff changing condoms??
Not only do you have to trust the WG not to have sex but, more importantly, she’d have to trust an idiot like you to do the same....

[winkywanky]

This tread has been a disappointment.  I thought I could get discussion and advice from fellow punters and instead I got dogma and judgement.

For all those who say any risk is just too great, remember that condoms fail and before you get OWO or lick out that pussy do have a look at the NHS website:External Link/Members Only  Don't want to?  Well, her is the list: chlamydia, herpes, genital warts, gonorrhoea, hepatitis A,B and C, HIV and syphilis!

As an aside, I did get some PMs which were helpful / supportive and it pains me that they did not not feel comfortable posting here ... although I do now understand them.

It's not even the bareback, it's the quality of thinking and 'reasoning' behind your so-called plan.

It's completely bollocks and you either don't get it or you don't want to get it.

[winkywanky]

This tread has been a disappointment.  I thought I could get discussion and advice from fellow punters and instead I got dogma and judgement.

For all those who say any risk is just too great, remember that condoms fail and before you get OWO or lick out that pussy do have a look at the NHS website:External Link/Members Only  Don't want to?  Well, her is the list: chlamydia, herpes, genital warts, gonorrhoea, hepatitis A,B and C, HIV and syphilis!

As an aside, I did get some PMs which were helpful / supportive and it pains me that they did not not feel comfortable posting here ... although I do now understand them.

The fact that you got 'helpful' PMs merely goes to show what is pretty well common knowledge on here: namely that there's plenty of members who do BB but won't admit to it.

I think that's a shame. Yes, it is frowned upon here, but guys who are open and honest about it are tolerated and have a degree of respect for doing so.

[winkywanky]

Why not just join a swingers website, I'm sure you could find a regular fuck buddy with a bit of effort.

He probably wouldn't want to do that because of the risk of sexually transmitted disease  .

[winkywanky]

They won’t post them here as they’ll get shit for being BBing cunts. It’s irresponsible and blights this industry. You’re a fuckwit if you really think that your plan would work. As has been pointed out, some STIs take up to 6 months to show. And you expect a WG to abstain from sex for that long just to fulfil your fantasy and just because it’s a bit of a faff changing condoms??
Not only do you have to trust the WG not to have sex but, more importantly, she’d have to trust an idiot like you to do the same....

I would say that the biggest problem about WGs and punters who do BB is the stigma and therefore dishonesty about it.

If everyone were honest about it, it'd be easier for WGs to see only punters who BBed, and similarly it'd be easier for punters to see only WGs who never BBed in their work (yes of course, everyone will be BBing in their private lives).

So there'd be almost two sex work industries running in parallel, and never the twain shall meet.

Of course, I am living in cloud cukooland though, human nature would see to that  .

[20jay]

I would say that the biggest problem about WGs and punters who do BB is the stigma and therefore dishonesty about it.

If everyone were honest about it, it'd be easier for WGs to see only punters who BBed, and similarly it'd be easier for punters to see only WGs who never BBed in their work (yes of course, everyone will be BBing in their private lives).

So there'd be almost two sex work industries running in parallel, and never the twain shall meet.

Of course, I am living in cloud cukooland though, human nature would see to that  .

People are old enough to know what they are doing, or at least they should be. There is no 100% safety, nowhere. If you want to avoid all risks seek a GF or wife, get tested every 3 months and stay true to her. There are no hygienically sterile hookers. 

[winkywanky]

Of course not. But there are degrees of risk, and people should be able to make informed decisions as to the degree of risk they're willing to take.

If everyone else is lying through their teeth then that falls down somewhat.

[20jay]

Of course not. But there are degrees of risk, and people should be able to make informed decisions as to the degree of risk they're willing to take.

If everyone else is lying through their teeth then that falls down somewhat.

Since you are so far right that you should know the risk to assess it. I know people who have captured something,..in a normal acquaintance after the first weeks of decency, both are clean, he said,  she took the pill  .. No hooker, normal woman. Probably hookers go to the doctor more often, just for the sake of their own safety, than the average girl next door... 

[winkywanky]

Yes, it can be argued that WGs take more care of their sexual health than civvy girls with active sex lives and mutiple partners.

But it remains true that the majority of guys don't want BB with a WG, and would like to be able to choose a WG who doesn't regularly BB with punters, and who actually tells the truth about that.

What you want/expect and what you get of course, may be two different things.

[20jay]

Yes, it can be argued that WGs take more care of their sexual health than civvy girls with active sex lives and mutiple partners.

But it remains true that the majority of guys don't want BB with a WG, and would like to be able to choose a WG who doesn't regularly BB with punters, and who actually tells the truth about that.

What you want/expect and what you get of course, may be two different things.

At the end of the day it is a thing of personal responsibility. Nobody can take responsibility for you or guarantee anything. It just does not make sense if you like driving fast, to mention and fear about the risks of fast driving.

[winkywanky]

Of course.

[ffstiap]

Why not just join a swingers website, I'm sure you could find a regular fuck buddy with a bit of effort.

We have contemplated this but we don't really want the 'emotional' side of the relationship like chatting up, meeting for drinks, becoming friends etc.  A SP is paid and therefore does not constitute and equal partner in the relationship.   

[CheeseBoard]

Hey everyone

My GF and I sometimes get a WG for an FFM

Why not ask a WG you have seen before.  You can explain everything in detail as to how it would work.  She may or not be up for it, if not, she may know someone who is.

[latex_demon]

The other thing you could do of course, is to select all the WGs in your area who DON'T do BB, and ask them if they're interested. So you only get a WG who never does BB...apart from especially for you of course, because you have such a cunning plan...and then they can just go back to being a non-BB WG and it'll be just your little secret between you all. In reality that's what this is.

There's actually an element of logic to this one.

You're looking for someone that has a pre-dispostion to avoid the risk of bb play in normal circumstances. And whilst there are whole threads on here for those that openly or covertly offer bb play, you want the girl who's the opposite, and in a risk group that is a little lower. Note, I say a little, as she could have trusted partners that you never know about.

The other element of truth is the fact you making the proposal will likely be rejected, and if it is not, how do you know what her attitude is to staying safe. It's kinda like finding out if a fridge light really does go out.

The other alternative is some kind of fetish/swing site and getting to know someone so you have a degree of trust in so far as that is possible.

The title is itself an oxymoron.