Reduced Level of Activity on Adult Work?

[20jay]

Not sure if it's partly down to the overall quality of what's on offer.

Whilst £100 is on the cusp of my "willing to take a chance" price mark, £140+ isn't.  I'm not going to pay over the odds on the off chance the woman might provide a decent experience for me, so I'll not take the risk regardless of how glowing the majority of reviews might be.
A lot of these women have been around for a while, have become jaded, provide very little in the way of proactive services resulting in reducing throughput, yet the prices go up for a lesser service.
Unfortunately, punting doesn't seem to work the same as say the luxury car market or watch where a high price tag may buy quality.  Perhaps a lot of these women need to realise that if you're being uncut by Roms etc., adding £30+ to their prices doesn't make you a Mercedes Vs. a Fiat Panda in this business.

The parlour scene is definitely dropping off so a lot of women who may have previously started their "careers" there, in a potentially safe environment, no longer do so.

There's also the fact that a lot of women there are scammers, Sergei trying to scam you, or just won't answer your messages when you try to book them.

The price performance ratio or the prices in general are certainly a serious criterion.

The incomes go back in London for years, not everyone is investment bankers at Barclays, 100 quid and more per hour are not little, and if there comes a listless service with the enthusiasm of a rubber doll in addition ,no wonder

[B4bcock]

I don't know if there are fewer, but the ones I see regularly say demand has dropped off drastically. A 21 year old who I see about once every 10 days told me last Friday that she only gets about a quarter, at best, of the numbers she had 18 months ago. I think Brexit uncertainty is causing it.

There seem to be a lot more touring girls visiting Bristol these days.   Many of them are long-established and well-reviewed on here.   As they only usually stay just a few days, I guess a punter looking for a meeting with someone different will book one of these whilst he has the opportunity, meaning the full-time Bristol girls will miss out.

[billybobsmith]

There seem to be a lot more touring girls visiting Bristol these days.   Many of them are long-established and well-reviewed on here.   As they only usually stay just a few days, I guess a punter looking for a meeting with someone different will book one of these whilst he has the opportunity, meaning the full-time Bristol girls will miss out.

I would probably avoid girls who tour. 
The first thing that pops into my head is "why?" and then I make the assumption that they've pissed off everyone local to them by providing a crap service so now they're moving around in order to target one off meets in a Travelodge or somewhere....

Not to say, that as mentioned above, a lot just want to tap into new markets, thus giving punters elsewhere a chance to experience something decent.


How do women find AW in the first place?  Is it talked about like SA?

[Payyourwaymate]

I wonder if we’ll see more ladies on AW during a recession?

If there is a recession which is looking more likely with all this nonsense going on in the global economy, the last thing you will want to worry about is more women hitting up AW for the monies.

[matoombaDan]

AW just seems to be descending into waves and waves of fly by night "Brazilians" or "English" private gallery sellers.  Ticking every preference under the sun including bareback and anal seems to be the giveaway.

Maybe the whole SA and camming scene means that the younger ladies can earn enough without needing to meet people anymore? Anyone vaguely genuine who appears then gets flooded by requests and then puts their price up sharpish!

[samsmith_1231]

If there is a recession which is looking more likely with all this nonsense going on in the global economy, the last thing you will want to worry about is more women hitting up AW for the monies.

More women more choice right. Unless I’m wrong somewhere

[20jay]

AW just seems to be descending into waves and waves of fly by night "Brazilians" or "English" private gallery sellers.  Ticking every preference under the sun including bareback and anal seems to be the giveaway.

Maybe the whole SA and camming scene means that the younger ladies can earn enough without needing to meet people anymore? Anyone vaguely genuine who appears then gets flooded by requests and then puts their price up sharpish!

It seems that more and more ladies only sell content. From picture to Skype sessions to worn clothes. No idea who paid,and that much, that the ladies live on it, and can drive their pimps the newest Porsche

...joke aside, it seems to be a disastrous mix of everything. State interventions, shortage of money, lack of culture and respect at the ladies and punter , changed sex behavior, stress, Internet, porn, the devil knows.... where are to good ole times 

[sparkus]

Cam scammers are often woke anti-SWERF radfems who preach about sex work but can't bring themselves to do it. They've got tuition fees to pay and like the look but when it comes to being WGs they're like Brett Anderson pretending to be gay in the early 90s.

[Horizontal pleasures]

Are there too many rival sites?
Here is small one: External Link/Members Only

[sparkus]

Are there too many rival sites?
Here is small one: External Link/Members Only

Someone posted a Gumtree link on here the other day with Skokka pics.

Could be the new Hallo London, which had an array of bored housewives and mostly EE cheapo p+d on it before it disappeared up its own rear end for some reason.

[matoombaDan]

Are there too many rival sites?
Here is small one: External Link/Members Only

Maybe it's like house buying. The estate agents might hedge their bets across Primelocation etc but more often than not the first place people look is on Rightmove, so if it's not there it's not worth looking at?

[sparkus]

Maybe it's like house buying. The estate agents might hedge their bets across Primelocation etc but more often than not the first place people look is on Rightmove, so if it's not there it's not worth looking at?

AW and Purple Bricks do have the same colour scheme...

[Payyourwaymate]

More women more choice right. Unless I’m wrong somewhere

In theory yes, that would make sense; but that only works for those punters who actually have money and/or little to no responsibilities so will not need to worry about the overall economy going downhill affecting there job/earning prospects or up keeping mortgage payments and family arrangements.

Punting is not cheap at the end of the day for most, when other ends must be prioritised, i'm pretty sure seeing WGs would be put on the back burner, especially with many punters bemoaning the terrible standards of service these days. There is also no guarantee that just because the economy goes down it would lead to a spike in supply of potential WGs in the punting market, so there's that too.

This is just a side point which is not related to your statement but relates to other points I have seen brought up over the past couple of posts. I have mentioned before in the past that there has been a spike of girls using cam sites like onlyfans and the like, which may have taken away from girls that could have ended up on AW. I think when it was new some girls were making quite a bit, but now I suspect that the market for camgirls is saturated. Unless they have a niche audience like belle delphine who does not even cam but has men paying for her pics by the bucket loads, then most likely the surest route for these girls is to secure a real SD and not a splenda daddy/going on AW to survive hard economic times. However, genuinely rich men are very hard to find. 

[20jay]

In theory yes, that would make sense; but that only works for those punters who actually have money and/or little to no responsibilities so will not need to worry about the overall economy going downhill affecting there job/earning prospects or up keeping mortgage payments and family arrangements.

Punting is not cheap at the end of the day for most, when other ends must be prioritised, i'm pretty sure seeing WGs would be put on the back burner, especially with many punters bemoaning the terrible standards of service these days. There is also no guarantee that just because the economy goes down it would lead to a spike in supply of potential WGs in the punting market, so there's that too.

This is just a side point which is not related to your statement but relates to other points I have seen brought up over the past couple of posts. I have mentioned before in the past that there has been a spike of girls using cam sites like onlyfans and the like, which may have taken away from girls that could have ended up on AW. I think when it was new some girls were making quite a bit, but now I suspect that the market for camgirls is saturated. Unless they have a niche audience like belle delphine who does not even cam but has men paying for her pics by the bucket loads, then most likely the surest route for these girls is to secure a real SD and not a splenda daddy/going on AW to survive hard economic times. However, genuinely rich men are very hard to find.

Chapeau ... partly my speech, and really conclusive.

[samsmith_1231]

In theory yes, that would make sense; but that only works for those punters who actually have money and/or little to no responsibilities so will not need to worry about the overall economy going downhill affecting there job/earning prospects or up keeping mortgage payments and family arrangements.

Punting is not cheap at the end of the day for most, when other ends must be prioritised, i'm pretty sure seeing WGs would be put on the back burner, especially with many punters bemoaning the terrible standards of service these days. There is also no guarantee that just because the economy goes down it would lead to a spike in supply of potential WGs in the punting market, so there's that too.

This is just a side point which is not related to your statement but relates to other points I have seen brought up over the past couple of posts. I have mentioned before in the past that there has been a spike of girls using cam sites like onlyfans and the like, which may have taken away from girls that could have ended up on AW. I think when it was new some girls were making quite a bit, but now I suspect that the market for camgirls is saturated. Unless they have a niche audience like belle delphine who does not even cam but has men paying for her pics by the bucket loads, then most likely the surest route for these girls is to secure a real SD and not a splenda daddy/going on AW to survive hard economic times. However, genuinely rich men are very hard to find.

Very good and valid point.

I do recall one escort who I met who did escorting and cams, decided to switch to cam work only.

[Mallow841]

In theory yes, that would make sense; but that only works for those punters who actually have money and/or little to no responsibilities so will not need to worry about the overall economy going downhill affecting there job/earning prospects or up keeping mortgage payments and family arrangements.

Punting is not cheap at the end of the day for most, when other ends must be prioritised, i'm pretty sure seeing WGs would be put on the back burner, especially with many punters bemoaning the terrible standards of service these days. There is also no guarantee that just because the economy goes down it would lead to a spike in supply of potential WGs in the punting market, so there's that too.

This is just a side point which is not related to your statement but relates to other points I have seen brought up over the past couple of posts. I have mentioned before in the past that there has been a spike of girls using cam sites like onlyfans and the like, which may have taken away from girls that could have ended up on AW. I think when it was new some girls were making quite a bit, but now I suspect that the market for camgirls is saturated. Unless they have a niche audience like belle delphine who does not even cam but has men paying for her pics by the bucket loads, then most likely the surest route for these girls is to secure a real SD and not a splenda daddy/going on AW to survive hard economic times. However, genuinely rich men are very hard to find.

Agree.

These girls can make decent money from OnlyFans, AdmireMe & even Instagram and if they can do that from the comfort of their own home, they aren’t gonna bother make an AW profile to fuck ugly munters like me. 

[samsmith_1231]

Haha

[20jay]

Agree.

These girls can make decent money from OnlyFans, AdmireMe & even Instagram and if they can do that from the comfort of their own home, they aren’t gonna bother make an AW profile to fuck ugly munters like me. 

If apparently a large number of punters prefer to sit drooling in front of the monitor and paying as much as for a nice fuck

Mad isn't.... 

[20jay]

By the way, such advertising does not make you hungry either.

My large breasts ..... ? Where ..? why writing such a joke , thats a A or B cup.

Always super sensitive ? That means in 99% don't touch them  .... 

This dishonesty ,if also still obvious , let ring "Fake alarm" bells . I do not always write a review ,because I'm sometimes to busy and two or three weeks later makes it also no sense . 

Alone how many times, once arrived, no communication because of the house number. Or the lady matches not with the picture. Or you have to hang up because the postcode leads to a well known bad service flat. Or you have to txt back that you refuse because of bad reputation of the place. If I would write that every time .

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[Mallow841]

If apparently a large number of punters prefer to sit drooling in front of the monitor and paying as much as for a nice fuck

Mad isn't.... 

I can’t fucking understand it.

A hot woman on a screen would make me want to pay to fuck her more.
 

[samsmith_1231]

Some girls who do camming, do tend to offer escorting services.

[sparkus]

If apparently a large number of punters prefer to sit drooling in front of the monitor and paying as much as for a nice fuck

Mad isn't.... 

In the same way that some women want to have the edgy cachet of being a "sex worker" but can't bring themselves to offer penetrative sex, some blokes can't bring themselves to penetrate a woman for cash either but still want an illicit thrill.  Leave them to each other say I.

[rubric]

In the same way that some women want to have the edgy cachet of being a "sex worker" but can't bring themselves to offer penetrative sex, some blokes can't bring themselves to penetrate a woman for cash either but still want an illicit thrill.  Leave them to each other say I.

I think that's part of it -- plus some poor saps deluding themselves that there might be a payoff eventually.

As to AW, the EE wave of a few years ago seems to have mostly dried up.  The countries they used to come from are doing better economically (so there's reduced supply of girls looking to do a stint as WGs), meanwhile the UK has rising rents and prices (so rising overheads for escorts), flat wages (so less disposable income for their customers) and brexit (so a lot of the longer resident ones have moved back).

The poles/latvians/hungarians have mostly been replaced by Romanians, and a couple of girls I've spoken to have reported that Romanians had tried to move them on (one girl told me that 'conferency (sp?) don't like me working here' and made it sound like some kind of organised group)

[Payyourwaymate]

Sorry in advance for bumping this thread in case what I am about to post may be deemed irrelevant.

However, I randomly came across an interesting article that may be an interesting read for some, about a 15min read, not 45 as the author states. It's based on American dynamics about women and them "selling themselves" per say, and how the internet has changed everything; but I would say there are similarities in the UK as well.

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[20jay]

Sorry in advance for bumping this thread in case what I am about to post may be deemed irrelevant.

However, I randomly came across an interesting article that may be an interesting read for some, about a 15min read, not 45 as the author states. It's based on American dynamics about women and them "selling themselves" per say, and how the internet has changed everything; but I would say there are similarities in the UK as well.

External Link/Members Only

Nice report on the impact of unrestrained capitalism, you can also read Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations and think, all said before.

[James]

most of the decent english speaking ones have moved to seeking as glorified escorts
they get to choose their clients now and be fussy.

[20jay]

most of the decent english speaking ones have moved to seeking as glorified escorts
they get to choose their clients now and be fussy.

Come ooooon, they are not all Pretty Woman 

[millbush]

I've no idea about 10 years ago but my regular said I should stick to English girls over 30 after a bad punt,this is a very narrow field within an hours radius for me and the bad punt I had was over 30 and English.

[rubric]

Come ooooon, they are not all Pretty Woman 

Yeah, but on the other hand some chaps seem fairly happy with mediocre sex, so there it is.

[20jay]

Yeah, but on the other hand some chaps seem fairly happy with mediocre sex, so there it is.

I have to say I am also happy with a good OWO cowgirl and doggy .. a wee bit kissing and fingers. Baaam done . If I get that package for 30-40 quid over 20 Min , I'm a happy man .

[sparkus]

Contrary to the thread title there's actually some decent pickings to be had on AW but not so many near my part of London it seems.

[Colston36]

On the other hand, as with drugs, if you make it legal and above-board, you minimise the opportunities for criminals in the supply-chain. Let's remember the experience of prohibition in the US, that essentially created the Mafia.

And, infinitely worse, the insane "War on Drugs" the failure of which you can see in any town or city in the U. K. - and has just about destroyed Mexico and other countries in Latin America.

On the matter of paid pussy shortage, it may also be a shortage of clients. I think the uncertainty of Brexit hasn't helped things. Girls I see almost all say business is bad.

[20jay]

Girls I see almost all say business is bad.

Yeah .. I heard the similar, also in other, means EU countries and there is no Brexit. I think it's more of the financial shortage of a little guy, since 2000 hardly salary increase but massive price increase in the cost of living. Capitalism in the final stage.

[rubric]

Yeah .. I heard the similar, also in other, means EU countries and there is no Brexit. I think it's more of the financial shortage of a little guy, since 2000 hardly salary increase but massive price increase in the cost of living. Capitalism in the final stage.

Pretty much this. There was a downturn after the turn of the century bust also, albeit not as big as this one.

[Payyourwaymate]

Yeah .. I heard the similar, also in other, means EU countries and there is no Brexit. I think it's more of the financial shortage of a little guy, since 2000 hardly salary increase but massive price increase in the cost of living. Capitalism in the final stage.

Thank the central banks monetary policy for all the QE they done flooding money into the commercial banks pockets to use to lend for share buybacks and speculation on property development, all contributing towards asset price inflation where a shitty one bed is more than £200K in london; instead of lending towards the real economy to promote small businesses, create jobs and infrastructure development, whilst salaries have remained stagnant.

Where will the average guy have money for WGs when the cost of living is squeezing him to bits, brexit uncertainty and trade wars having an effect on the economy in relation to job opportunities and security; top that off if he had a mortgage and family to take care of, even more expenses. Add to that WGs that are raising prices to inflated levels but still dishing out shit service, much better to have a wank instead in that situation, then WGs wonder why business is bad? No shit  .  Don't think capitalism will die though, the wealth gap will just become more polarized if anything.

[20jay]

Thank the central banks monetary policy for all the QE they done flooding money into the commercial banks pockets ...---.... Don't think capitalism will die though, the wealth gap will just become more polarized if anything.

...futile to philosophize about capitalism. People do love the system, they only hate their place in it.