The aftermath

[Outcallguy]

So now my AW profile has the following comment
"THIS GUY IS A MEMBER OF UKPUNTING AND WILL WRITE REVIEWS ABOUT YOU WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT"


A bit harsh, though I assume most girls will not be bothered by it.

What do you guys think?

I only found out about this as a girl who bid on my RB asked me what the comment was all about.

[TheDoctor]

Any ideas to the perpetrator?

[Outcallguy]

Yes I know exactly who it is, just wondered if anyone here felt I should do something about it.

[Daffodil]

This is one of the reasons I try to keep my adultwork identity separate to my forum identity. Do you use the same username? If not, how do you suppose they put the two together?

At the end of the day, even if you're the least offensive member on the board, you are going to offend somebody. Try to stay anonymous. Sometimes easier said than done mind.

[Daffodil]

Yes I know exactly who it is, just wondered if anyone here felt I should do something about it.

Like what? The comment is truthful essentially, so I can't see AW removing it.

[Aphrodite]

I doubt any WGs who are good at their job will be bothered

[hollysbeenabadgirl]

I'd view it as a good thing actually. Crap girls will either refuse to see you or make sure they up their game, Good girls will carry on as normal and not give a damn.

The comment is strange anyway as you are able to post negative feedback and field reports on AW. Okay the SP may not select the FR to be displayed, but it is searchable anyway.

I would not bother contacting AW regarding the note on your profile, as they refuse to remove things even when lies, think they only remove when it contains identifying information etc.

[vorian]

If the WG is confident about her service then why should she be threatened by a review we do not have to have permission to write a review. The better WG's value the publicity as a good marketing tool and the best ones who are committed to providing excellent customer service actively seek honest feedback to help them improve their service.

The fact that she has written would make me unlikely to book her, also it could help the OP as it might help him filter out the bad WG's.  I might even ask one of my regular's to put the same thing on my profile almost as a badge of honour.

It seems UKP is doing its job well if bad WG's feel the need to warn others about us. Hey feels like we are the good food guide inspectors of the punting world. The good restaurants look forward to seeing us and welcome us in. The dirty, bad food and poor service restaurants circulate pictures and are shit scared of us visiting.

Power to the punter indeed.

[wristjob]

As Holly says the better girls will see this as a good thing, mostly they like reviews. Probably means it will be hard to book bad girls through AW. If it bothers you just wipe your account and start a new one. Mostly I book via phone but I do send mails with AW so I can see that it could be problematic.

[Daffodil]

Hey feels like we are the good food guide inspectors of the punting world. The good restaurants look forward to seeing us and welcome us in. The dirty, bad food and poor service restaurants circulate pictures and are shit scared of us visiting.

The only trouble is we have a few easily pleased 'critics' 

[vorian]

The only trouble is we have a few easily pleased 'critics' 

Very true, guess they are hoping to get a discount when they bring the missus for Sunday lunch.

Joking apart if the bad WG's are willing to put a warning up then they must be more scared of a bad review than a good one so it seems we are going in the right direction if nothing else. I bet no WG's has put up the warning "This person is a member of the %%% forum and will give you a glowing review even if you give them a shit service and have your pimp rob them on the way out".

[smiths]

So now my AW profile has the following comment
"THIS GUY IS A MEMBER OF UKPUNTING AND WILL WRITE REVIEWS ABOUT YOU WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT"


A bit harsh, though I assume most girls will not be bothered by it.

What do you guys think?

I only found out about this as a girl who bid on my RB asked me what the comment was all about.

You dont require a WGs knowledge or consent to do a review on her on here if her profile/site is on the net, she has chosen or her pimp has to advertise in the public arena and reviews and feedback are a possible consequence of that. WGs or their pimps if they have any brain power should know this.

What i think is if a WG always offers a good service that will be shown by her good reviews and feedback so there isnt anything to worry about. If on the other hand a WG offers bad service she risks it getting out on to here and if it does thats tough shit. She should of thought about that before offering bad service.

I also agree with Daffs good advice about not linking an A/W profile to your nick here so it takes WGs or their pimps longer if smart enough (and many are thick which is why they are pimps in the first place) to work out who you were. Far better in my experience of using my nick when punting for a few years on Pnet to do the opposite and punt anonymously. Some WGs have big gobs and have no idea or interest in discretion.

[CatBBW]

So now my AW profile has the following comment
"THIS GUY IS A MEMBER OF UKPUNTING AND WILL WRITE REVIEWS ABOUT YOU WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT"


A bit harsh, though I assume most girls will not be bothered by it.

What do you guys think?

I only found out about this as a girl who bid on my RB asked me what the comment was all about.

As a WG and a member of UKP, seeing this on notes would not bother me. Reviews are welcome. Only the ladies who provide a crap service should worry.

[Jimmyredcab]

This is why I prefer girls who I can book over the phone, booking through the Adultwork system leads to this sort of bullshit.

[Jimmyredcab]

As a WG and a member of UKP, seeing this on notes would not bother me. Reviews are welcome. Only the ladies who provide a crap service should worry.

On %%% he allows girls to go on the "no reviews" list ------------------ but to be fair that is no longer a punters site. 

[vorian]

I agree Jimmy. I prefer over the phone and don't even know how to use the AW booking system. I might have to send an email through AW as a first contact point but that is it then I will correspond by phone, text or email. Not interested in feedback etc. If a WG can't tell I'm not a TW or nutter by the way I communicate with her, then for me she is not serious about how she treats her business and I have zero interest in meeting with her. WG's who rely on solely on AW in my mind are lazy and lacking sense as the system is so broken.

[Daffodil]

This is why I prefer girls who I can book over the phone, booking through the Adultwork system leads to this sort of bullshit.

Yep, agree with you. Trouble in some areas is that you have no choice but to jump through a few hopes. Bristol is a fucking desert...tonight I made a booking via the phone and she still wanted an adultwork booking 

[vorian]

Yep that can happen I assume they think that you are more likely to turn up if you think she can leave you poor feedback hence why they request an AW booking but that doesn't mean you have to leave feedback. I suppose she could still do the hidden one on you (not really sure how it all works)  but assuming there were no big problems why would she bother.

[Daffodil]

Yep that can happen I assume they think that you are more likely to turn up if you think she can leave you poor feedback hence why they request an AW booking but that doesn't mean you have to leave feedback. I suppose she could still do the hidden one on you (not really sure how it all works)  but assuming there were no big problems why would she bother.

Why would she bother? She's a woman, they're irrational.

I think it was actually so she could check me out (see my reviews and see my notes), but I see it in a similar way to how (I think) you see the note left against the OP...she must be confident about giving a good service or why insist on me being able to leave her feedback?

[smiths]

This is why I prefer girls who I can book over the phone, booking through the Adultwork system leads to this sort of bullshit.

Indeed, i only book WGs with phone numbers, its not a preferance, its an absolute necessity but i do understand Daffs point about how it works in his area. Just glad i punt in London and dont need to jump through hoops to get a punt.

[vorian]

Why would she bother? She's a woman, they're irrational.

I think it was actually so she could check me out (see my reviews and see my notes), but I see it in a similar way to how (I think) you see the note left against the OP...she must be confident about giving a good service or why insist on me being able to leave her feedback?

See your point as you said she must be confident,  I just have a distrust of most things AW and do prefer some contact one to one before a booking to help see if she is the right person for me. As far as I'm concerned I expect effort on her part to convince me to part with my cash.  AW booking system makes it a little to easy for the WG's or at least the lazy ones.

[dilettante]

What's more to the point, is whether WGs can "review" all of a punter's "reviews" - is this an option for a SP on AW, ie to list all feedback and FRs a Service Seeker has left? - hoping Holly or Dani can fill us in on this.  Personally I tend to leave rose-tinted reviews anyway!

[Outcallguy]

Thanks all good advice.

Going to get my username changed then.

[NIK]

This is why I prefer girls who I can book over the phone, booking through the Adultwork system leads to this sort of bullshit.

Exactly. I can't understand why anyone would play the stupid AWank system. If a prossy insists on it go elsewhere. There are plenty more.

[Jimmyredcab]

Exactly. I can't understand why anyone would play the stupid AWank system. If a prossy insists on it go elsewhere. There are plenty more.

I accept that some areas are a punting desert, personally I have never been forced to use the Adultwork system.

[SirFrank]

I keep my profile names seperate

[Jason]

Many members here do use the same nickname as their AW one. Big mistake in my opinion, but their choice. Personally I use a different nickname in UKP, AW and %%%. Also if I gave feedback on AW or %%% I will mention nothing here and if I give feedback here I will mention nothing elsewhere. My choice.

Also regarding AW feedback system and making bookings via phone only the “devil’s advocate” would say the following:
AW clients’ feedback system has some benefit for the punter because the client’s own feedback reflects on the credibility of the feedback he gives. For example an AW member with no feedback himself giving a fully positive feedback to a zero feedback WG tends to not get believed. Also same if someone with zero feedback himself gives a fully negative feedback to a WG with plenty only positive feedback. However when a punter with 50+ ve feedback himself (nb. escort feedback not webcam) gives feedback then his statement is considered to be reliable. Of course such a person may be a fluffy but it depends of what he says: statements like confirming pictures authenticity and services provided are believed. Most of you cynics who are complaining about AW client feedback system you are actually waiting for a girl to gain some AW feedback from a punter who has feedback himself before you choose to punt with her. So stop whining.

Of course the response to the devil’s advocate can be that you may instead give feedback in UKP or any other external escorts’ review forum/system. But this is a topic for another thread.

[Jimmyredcab]

Many members here do use the same nickname as their AW one. Big mistake in my opinion, but their choice. Personally I use a different nickname in UKP, AW and %%%.

I am Jimmyredcab on every forum but prefer to be anonymous on Adultwork.   

[BristolP]

I don’t use my AW username on UKP either. However it must be said that UKP members who do use the same name on AW and UKP do have more credibility for me. e.g. I read with interest the punting views of SirPhillipXX from the point he joined UPK because I knew his feedback from AW.

[password02]

Yes same with herbie007 - up there with the best for reviews on both AW and UKP. I trust him 100%

[SirPhilipXX]

I don’t use my AW username on UKP either. However it must be said that UKP members who do use the same name on AW and UKP do have more credibility for me. e.g. I read with interest the punting views of SirPhillipXX from the point he joined UPK because I knew his feedback from AW.

That is the reason I use the same nickname on AW and UKP; it has not been a problem so far, but in view of this thread I am having second thoughts

[Sailormack]

A simple solution is to only review on UKP.

Why anyone would want to support a scamster site is beyond me 

[herbie007]

Yes same with herbie007 - up there with the best for reviews on both AW and UKP. I trust him 100%

Cheers for the kind words PW

Just as I trust you along with many members on UKP who know you.

I think it will only be a matter of time before I will have to make a new AW account with a different username to my UKP one, as I do get the odd email from girls on AW who have not been happy with certain comments I have made.

[vorian]

Think the poster are right about having different account names.  On UKP I am happy to be honest,  however with AW I see it as more of a place to play games and manipulate the system to my advantage so a different name helps. Also I don't feel the need to make bookings through the system. As I said before I do have to use the AW email as a first contact also sometimes for a variety of reasons punters are requested to "Make a booking" I recently had to make one for a party but when I challenged why the response I was given seemed fair and reasonable so I was happy on this occasion to do so.

If fact part of my auditioning process for a new WG is how they communicate which is often better served by phone, text and email.

[Tjkooker]

Yes I know exactly who it is, just wondered if anyone here felt I should do something about it.

Well I think it's only fair that you reveal on here exactly who put this in your notes. She is trying to damage your reputation.  You should reveal so others can choose to spend their money on girls that are worth it unlike this head up her own arse cow.

[vorian]

I agree wholeheartedly it would be helpful to other punters.

[rockharders]

Wouldn't bother me at all, I never use the AW booking system. Phone calls only. At least the crap prossies will avoid you now.

[vorian]

Wouldn't bother me at all, I never use the AW booking system. Phone calls only. At least the crap prossies will avoid you now.

Agreed as mentioned previously, don't think any damage done and would help the op avoid bad prossies.  However the intention behind it was to punish a punter for being a member of this forum and for writing reviews. Thus feel it would be helpful to the punters on this site to identify the prossie who thinks it is acceptable to do that.

[CatBBW]

Everyone's talking about the booking system, but a WG can leave you a note if you just send her a message through AW, no need to make a booking.

[rockharders]

Agreed as mentioned previously, don't think any damage done and would help the op avoid bad prossies.  However the intention behind it was to punish a punter for being a member of this forum and for writing reviews. Thus feel it would be helpful to the punters on this site to identify the prossie who thinks it is acceptable to do that.

The OP should name and shame whichever low life prossie did this.

[vorian]

Thank for explaining much appreciated information. I still think it would be good for the op to share the name. As effectively she is trying to create a "Blacklist" to stop UKP members getting a service. Even if the outcome is opposite to what she planned it stinks. It would be like saying no members of UKIP can get a job in Europe because they don't agree with it's policies.  I really don't like it at all.

[smiths]

A simple solution is to only review on UKP.

Why anyone would want to support a scamster site is beyond me 

Spot on Mack. Personally i care about the punters on here, not those that use A/W but dont know about or have any interest in this site. A review or feedback on here by a credible to me punter is worth countless times more than any on A/W unless i happen to know, trust and/or respect the punter leaving it.

Clearly this is another issue that keeps going round and round, some punters use A/Ws FB system or have to in some cases to get a punt, others like me wouldnt piss on it if it were on fire.

[hollysbeenabadgirl]

What's more to the point, is whether WGs can "review" all of a punter's "reviews" - is this an option for a SP on AW, ie to list all feedback and FRs a Service Seeker has left? - hoping Holly or Dani can fill us in on this.  Personally I tend to leave rose-tinted reviews anyway!

No, unless I am missing a trick, all we can do is view the gents feedback left by SP's and then click through to each SP's feedback to see what was left by the gent.

I am not sure if it is just those who message me, but I often find that a gent may have 20 feedback but have only left 10 (Not that I pay much attention to FB, just I am nosey). I have no idea how much of that is down to not giving a damn about the feedback system or a sign that they are not happy with 50% of punts.

[DaveMugabe]

A simple solution is to only review on UKP.

Why anyone would want to support a scamster site is beyond me 

Agree with the sailorboy.

Why bother using AW except to search and get tel no?

OP needs to name the prossie who left the note so UKP members can choose whether to book her or not.

Two can play the same game.

[rockharders]

A review or feedback on here by a credible to me punter is worth countless times more than any on A/W unless i happen to know, trust and/or respect the punter leaving it.

AW feedback is worthless and not to be trusted. It no longer surprises me that some of the consistently bad girls reviewed on this forum somehow have strings of wishy washy fluffy nose up the arse feedback on AW. So much that it becomes nearly impossible to differentiate the crap WGs with lots of positive FB and the genuinely excellent WGs. It's so skewed that even Vicky Pollard would get 10/10 for looks.

Leave a negative or neutral on AW and you'll probably get one of the following replies:
> didn't see this man, don't know who he is, psycho stalker etc
> asked for BB, aggressive etc
> covered oral, no dfk because of bad breath etc
> didn't turn up, late etc

[Jason]

Leave a negative or neutral on AW and you'll probably get one of the following replies:
> didn't see this man, don't know who he is, psycho stalker etc
> asked for BB, aggressive etc
> covered oral, no dfk because of bad breath etc
> didn't turn up, late etc

Yet you have some “punters” who indeed leave false malicious feedback. Example?
External Link/Members Only
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=21157.msg318890#msg318890
What coolfriend2580 did was really disgraceful.

[smiths]

AW feedback is worthless and not to be trusted. It no longer surprises me that some of the consistently bad girls reviewed on this forum somehow have strings of wishy washy fluffy nose up the arse feedback on AW. So much that it becomes nearly impossible to differentiate the crap WGs with lots of positive FB and the genuinely excellent WGs. It's so skewed that even Vicky Pollard would get 10/10 for looks.

Leave a negative or neutral on AW and you'll probably get one of the following replies:
> didn't see this man, don't know who he is, psycho stalker etc
> asked for BB, aggressive etc
> covered oral, no dfk because of bad breath etc
> didn't turn up, late etc

Spot on, we even have punters too scared to be honest and leave negative FB on A/W in case the WG gives them negative back which could put future WGs off them. How does that help punters, what it does do no doubt is give a big long laugh to bad WGs who must be pissing themselves at punters stupidity to get boxed in to that rotten FB system. I just hope those same punters do reviews or give honest FB on here.

[The President]

As a WG and a member of UKP, seeing this on notes would not bother me. Reviews are welcome. Only the ladies who provide a crap service should worry.

Totally agree - respond to the FR with a link to your field report here

[Puntypants]

So now my AW profile has the following comment
"THIS GUY IS A MEMBER OF UKPUNTING AND WILL WRITE REVIEWS ABOUT YOU WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT"


A bit harsh, though I assume most girls will not be bothered by it.

What do you guys think?

I only found out about this as a girl who bid on my RB asked me what the comment was all about.

As a matter of interest, are there details in a punter's AW profile that only WGs can see? I.e. can someone put in comments that the punter has no access to? Legitimate feedback is fine so long as you can see it.

[BristolP]

As a matter of interest, are there details in a punter's AW profile that only WGs can see? I.e. can someone put in comments that the punter has no access to? Legitimate feedback is fine so long as you can see it.

Yes a WG can leave notes on a punter that only other verified WG’s can see. It has been discussed plenty of times. The thing that surprised me is that these notes are always anonymous.