The New Warning Message on Adult Work

[Itsnotshy]

I remember the days before Adultwork and I'm in no rush to go back there. Yes, the AW owners are oderous leeches making cash and doing just enough to avoid legal action and I know we now have UKPunting to advise us on choices to make, however....

Imagine a world of no Adultwork and where UKP gets shut down due to some ill-thought out legislation banning any websites that still operated during Covid-19. How will we know what girls to avoid?
So the other option are Parlours. Unfortunately a shadow of the heights of the 1990's. VivaStreet ad's...really?

I remember the days of adverts in the Evening News (they won't exist now due to newspapapers going bump), or buying Contact mags from Adult Cinemas (What?) just to get a number for an SP, then getting there and realising the person looked nothing like the advert. Punting is much easier with AW in existence, despite all it's faults.

My first punt was from an ad in the Sport. Hadn't really cottoned on to parlours back then.
Maybe parlours might make a comeback, after all they've all closed in line with government rules whereas many independent girls have carried on through Adultwork.
Maybe there will be a day of reckoning when the politicians get back to normal.
Maybe legal licensed parlours that the council have control over are the future.
Then again maybe not.

[hornyguylondon]

My first punt was from an ad in the Sport. Hadn't really cottoned on to parlours back then.
Maybe parlours might make a comeback, after all they've all closed in line with government rules whereas many independent girls have carried on through Adultwork.
Maybe there will be a day of reckoning when the politicians get back to normal.
Maybe legal licensed parlours that the council have control over are the future.
Then again maybe not.

Licensing seems to work in other countries, not sure we're quite as liberal over here......yet 

 

[nbarnes]

The state is doing one of the few fundamental things it exists to do; protecting everyone else from the idiot individuals who refuse to accept that their exercising of their individual freedoms endanger the lives of others which is unsurprisingly against the law.

This x 1,000,000

You don't get the right to put other people at risk. Selfish and stupid behaviour will only increase the length of the lockdown.
I guarantee you as well, if it's not adhered to the military will be on the streets before not too long - see where that escalates to.

Take a look at the numbers - America is going to find out what the cost of "Ma God Given Freedumbs" is over the next few weeks.

[Home Alone]

My first punt was from an ad in the Sport. Hadn't really cottoned on to parlours back then.
Maybe parlours might make a comeback, after all they've all closed in line with government rules whereas many independent girls have carried on through Adultwork.
Maybe there will be a day of reckoning when the politicians get back to normal.
Maybe legal licensed parlours that the council have control over are the future.
Then again maybe not.

Doesn't that rather depend on where you punt? In Greater Manchester, there are still quite a number of Parlours and when I punted in them - I haven't done so for more than a decade now - my feeling was that they were too low down the police list of priorities.

There were quite a few of them within 5 - 10 minutes of Whitefield police station and, back in the day, there always seemed to be some burly lads with neatly trimmed hair in the waiting area in Sandy's Prestwich Parlour!

[Itsnotshy]

Doesn't that rather depend on where you punt? In Greater Manchester, there are still quite a number of Parlours and when I punted in them - I haven't done so for more than a decade now - my feeling was that they were too low down the police list of priorities.

There were quite a few of them within 5 - 10 minutes of Whitefield police station and, back in the day, there always seemed to be some burly lads with neatly trimmed hair in the waiting area in Sandy's Prestwich Parlour!

Maybe I could've phrased that better what I meant to say was they've all closed temporarily in line with government rules on Covid 19.
Whereas a lot of girls on adultwork appear to be still working in contravention of the rules.
When, or if, this is ever over maybe the powers that be will look more favourably on the parlours that did their duty and get somewhat narked at Adultwork etc.
Being a parlour guy this is maybe just wishfull thinking on my part.
Would've loved to visit Manchester in it's heyday for a parlour crawl.

[daviemac]

Maybe I could've phrased that better what I meant to say was they've all closed temporarily in line with government rules on Covid 19.
Whereas a lot of girls on adultwork appear to be still working in contravention of the rules.
When, or if, this is ever over maybe the powers that be will look more favourably on the parlours that did their duty and get somewhat narked at Adultwork etc.
Being a parlour guy this is maybe just wishfull thinking on my part.
Would've loved to visit Manchester in it's heyday for a parlour crawl.

Not sure I understand your logic, AW don't offer services they are just an advertising platform used by individuals. Walk past a parlour anywhere in the country and you can see if it's open, without contacting every escort on AW how do you know which are actually still offering services. They've removed the facility of making bookings through the site, not sure what else they can do, girls on there still offer cam and phone chat.

[winkywanky]

For girls that have only ticked the Escorting box, they could remove the possibility to show Available Today.

[daviemac]

For girls that have only ticked the Escorting box, they could remove the possibility to show Available Today.

They've explained that, Available Today, as far as AW are concerned, means they are available to be contacted to discuss post lockdown bookings. In reality they are making money from it so rely on the integrity of those who advertise.

[winkywanky]

They've explained that, Available Today, as far as AW are concerned, means they are available to be contacted to discuss post lockdown bookings. In reality they are making money from it so rely on the integrity of those who advertise.

That says it all 

[Itsnotshy]

Not sure I understand your logic, AW don't offer services they are just an advertising platform used by individuals. Walk past a parlour anywhere in the country and you can see if it's open, without contacting every escort on AW how do you know which are actually still offering services. They've removed the facility of making bookings through the site, not sure what else they can do, girls on there still offer cam and phone chat.

True, I can't be certain some are still working except from bits and bobs people are saying on here.
Nothing can be absolutely certain with what's going on behind the scenes on Adultwork, and as a libertarian I can't really condemn anything that might or might not be going on between consenting adults.
But what can be said with certainty is that all the parlours are shut, and hopefully this will stand them in good stead with the government if/when they reopen.

[daviemac]

True, I can't be certain some are still working except from bits and bobs people are saying on here.
Nothing can be absolutely certain with what's going on behind the scenes on Adultwork, and as a libertarian I can't really condemn anything that might or might not be going on between consenting adults.
But what can be said with certainty is that all the parlours are shut, and hopefully this will stand them in good stead with the government if/when they reopen.

The parlours are like pubs and restaurants, they are there for all to see, they have no choice but to close. There's 1000's of escorts with green lights on AW but without asking them all you don't know how many are just offering cam etc and how many are offering escort services. Even the ones daft enough to still be escorting are doing it in private, not in a shop on the high street with a big sign outside.

[sparkus]

Go on Gumtree, plenty of 'massage' ads being posted daily.

[Mr Sinister]

Vivastreet removed the pricing and some filters from their site, plus blocked out the girls services, of course numbers are still up but at least they've done something l.

[GingerNuts]

Go on Gumtree, plenty of 'massage' ads being posted daily.

Very few outside of London.

[Rochelle]

That says it all 

I would think most escorts aren't offering bookings at the moment. There will always be some who flout the rules.

[winkywanky]

...and quite a few of those will be emboldened by AW's slack attitude.

I reckon a lot of WGs could be a bit more empowered to try stuff like Webcam if AW made a bit more of an effort to encourage it.

Have you received any such communications Rochelle? What meaningful support have you had from AW?

[Rochelle]

...and quite a few of those will be emboldened by AW's slack attitude.

I reckon a lot of WGs could be a bit more empowered to try stuff like Webcam if AW made a bit more of an effort to encourage it.

Have you received any such communications Rochelle? What meaningful support have you had from AW?

Nah, no messages. Camming isn't something I would do anyway.

[winkywanky]

That's pretty fucking useless on AW's part then  .

I realise camming is not your thing Rochelle, and you can cope OK in the current situation, but for those who are finding it very tough this would be a good avenue for them to explore to avoid resorting to meets.

[Strawberry]

...and quite a few of those will be emboldened by AW's slack attitude.

I reckon a lot of WGs could be a bit more empowered to try stuff like Webcam if AW made a bit more of an effort to encourage it.

Have you received any such communications Rochelle? What meaningful support have you had from AW?

I received an email to my email address,from AW a couple of weeks ago, encouraging and explaining adding webcam and direct chat services to your profile. The email  was very encouraging made it sound relatively easy, laid out the steps to get up and running. Whilst looking into this for myself I discovered an issue in adding these services to my profile which was sorted out by their customer service live chat facility. This is a way to obtain often rapid, immediate help from customer service team. Only downside is that this instant customer service facility is only available on weekdays 9-5.

Sounds like the email either wasn't sent to everyone, or has disappeared into junk mail?

Just had a look it was received on 16th March, encouraging moving onto online services in response to declines in face to face meetings during CV-19.

The email laid out descriptions and explanations of the different online services, with links to articles and guides to help get set up.

[winkywanky]

I received an email to my email address,from AW a couple of weeks ago, encouraging and explaining adding webcam and direct chat services to your profile. The email  was very encouraging made it sound relatively easy, laid out the steps to get up and running. Whilst looking into this for myself I discovered an issue in adding these services to my profile which was sorted out by their customer service live chat facility. This is a way to obtain often rapid, immediate help from customer service team. Only downside is that this instant customer service facility is only available on weekdays 9-5.

Sounds like the email either wasn't sent to everyone, or has disappeared into junk mail?

Just had a look it was received on 16th March, encouraging moving onto online services in response to declines in face to face meetings during CV-19.

The email laid out descriptions and explanations of the different online services, with links to articles and guides to help get set up.

That's good then 

Is there talk about this on SAAFE? And are they encouraging WGs to check their Spam folders?

[monsterballz47]

Not one to regularly post on here (so yeah, hello everyone I guess), but some of the things I'm reading on here are madness. I specifically point towards those few suggesting "some of us won't make it". Forgive me, but that's just pure horseshit and scaremongering. The death toll may seem catastrophic, but optics are everything, and the overall death count per day has actually barely risen at all compared with all the days of the year last year. And yes, of course, because of COVID-19 some people will die before their time, but the same thing literally applies to flu (and yes, I know that COVID is more serious than flu) in certain cases. So yes, the vast majority of us people on here and AW will be okay (99+ percent of us).

Secondly, it is not up to AW to "nanny" us. We're getting enough of that from the government at the moment. And yes, of course I agree with social distancing, as I will do whatever it takes to protect the elderly, the vulnerable and the NHS. But stopping people from communicating on AW would be a step too far. What's wrong with planning ahead? For sure, this lockdown could last a while, possibly 5 or 6 months before we get completely back to normal, etc, etc. But that's still no excuse to stop people from communicating and planning ahead.

Basically what I'm getting at is, why should AW and we sensible punters and WG suffer just because of some minority of idiots who may still try and make a booking via the email function? Those kind of people will no doubt be the ones flaunting lockdown altogether, so it's pointless in my opinion to call for AW to shut down completely.

[Xtro]

Thanks.... See you in another 18 months.      

[Strawberry]

Adultwork have also written this article they seem to be offering a credit bonus to the first 1000 Escorts who earn 200 credits webcamming or direct chat by a certain date;

External Link/Members Only

Back in March they published this which is pretty much the same as the email I received a week earlier ;

External Link/Members Only

[Jerk Chicken]

I remember the days before Adultwork and I'm in no rush to go back there. Yes, the AW owners are oderous leeches making cash and doing just enough to avoid legal action and I know we now have UKPunting to advise us on choices to make, however....

Imagine a world of no Adultwork and where UKP gets shut down due to some ill-thought out legislation banning any websites that still operated during Covid-19. How will we know what girls to avoid?
So the other option are Parlours. Unfortunately a shadow of the heights of the 1990's. VivaStreet ad's...really?

I remember the days of adverts in the Evening News (they won't exist now due to newspapapers going bump), or buying Contact mags from Adult Cinemas (What?) just to get a number for an SP, then getting there and realising the person looked nothing like the advert. Punting is much easier with AW in existence, despite all it's faults.

+1

[Londonpunter30]

It was reported before that AW make more money out webcams than they do from escorting

This sounds good from them but the reality is they just want to keep the credits flowing

[Doc Holliday]

Not one to regularly post on here (so yeah, hello everyone I guess), but some of the things I'm reading on here are madness. I specifically point towards those few suggesting "some of us won't make it". Forgive me, but that's just pure horseshit and scaremongering. The death toll may seem catastrophic, but optics are everything, and the overall death count per day has actually barely risen at all compared with all the days of the year last year.

As has been posted in other threads the data does not yet exist to make that statement.

[Strawberry]

As has been posted in other threads the data does not yet exist to make that statement.

Plus of course the numbers are the numbers within restrictions, numbers could be quite different if the opportunities for transmission hadn't been massively reduced.

[tobyk1]

Let’s face it, the UK public don’t want to be ‘traced’ or tracked, or anything in between. Thus, alas, prostitution is finished for 2020 (and first half of next year), even once lockdown is over.

Germany are implementing the tracing apps, so hopefully the FKKs will reopen soon enough 

There Still are girls on dating apps in the UK lonely and up for getting hitched, so that’s easy enough. Just no Brazilian heat or Latina fever for a year or so for me, but have come to accept that and happy to save the bucks.

 

[daviemac]

Let’s face it, the UK public don’t want to be ‘traced’ or tracked, or anything in between. Thus, alas, prostitution is finished for 2020 (and first half of next year), even once lockdown is over.

Germany are implementing the tracing apps, so hopefully the FKKs will reopen soon enough 

There Still are girls on dating apps in the UK lonely and up for getting hitched, so that’s easy enough. Just no Brazilian heat or Latina fever for a year or so for me, but have come to accept that and happy to save the bucks.

 

How do you come to that conclusion? it's still going on now. just because the majority are making the right decision it doesn't stop everyone.

[sparkus]

How do you come to that conclusion? it's still going on now. just because the majority are making the right decision it doesn't stop everyone.

Perhaps such sweeping statements are just a coping strategy for the time being? Can't blame him.

[tobyk1]

How do you come to that conclusion? it's still going on now. just because the majority are making the right decision it doesn't stop everyone.

It’s probably ‘going on’, as you say, at a rate of 5-10% of the usual. If I take my HL as a intermediary example, there are 3 out of 48 profiles with a green light on. Many not been online for weeks, or even a month.

Do you think it’ll magically be okay to punt in 9 months time? AND without contact tracing? AND all girls will want to return to work without a vaccine?

 

[winkywanky]

Plus of course the numbers are the numbers within restrictions, numbers could be quite different if the opportunities for transmission hadn't been massively reduced.

That has to be the understatement of the year  .

The deaths we're seeing now are people who became infected 3-4wks ago, just as Lockdown was beginning. It *seems* like deaths are starting to stabilise now, if Lockdown hadn't been implemented it's obvious the figures would be starting to go through the roof about now, and rising ever-steeply, leading to a complete breakdown of the NHS.

[daviemac]

It’s probably ‘going on’, as you say, at a rate of 5-10% of the usual. If I take my HL as a intermediary example, there are 3 out of 48 profiles with a green light on. Many not been online for weeks, or even a month.

Do you think it’ll magically be okay to punt in 9 months time? AND without contact tracing? AND all girls will want to return to work without a vaccine?

 

At this present moment there's 658 escorts on AW showing available today green lights with only 70 showing as available if you search for webcam. 

Who knows what the future will hold, or how long the lockdown will last, personally I prefer not to speculate on what may or may not happen, even Wuhan started to return to normal a week ago.   

[sparkus]

At this present moment there's 658 escorts on AW showing available today green lights with only 70 showing as available if you search for webcam. 

Who knows what the future will hold, or how long the lockdown will last, personally I prefer not to speculate on what may or may not happen, even Wuhan started to return to normal a week ago.

As you've said on several occasions, China was able to implement measures we simply couldn't, for both cost and political reasons.  Even in the less affected areas, lockdown was pretty severe eg. not allowed out and one takeaway delivery slot per day, which took an hour to retrieve between the door of your flat and the front gate due to wipe-down and access codes etc.

Not read that much on it but hasn't the virus also mutated between there and here, leading to its impact being more significant? How any American can look at Trump and his gang at the moment and think "That's the guy for me!" is utterly beyond me.  Despite all the rhetoric about China 'causing this' and globalisation being to 'blame' for our current predicament, I personally think the western world paid its money and took its choice when it made its preference for cheaper consumer goods and convenient global travel.  If so, it will be global interdependence and knowledge sharing which gets us out of this.  Unfortunately the political cycle doesn't run on that logic so we have to be prepared for some pretty ropey recriminations and economic nationalism coming up (and as Rishi Sunak said, all this new spending will have to be accounted for afterwards, so that could entail tax rises coupled with big cuts to services - populists will have a response to that too).

[Xtro]

Prostitutes ignore lockdown by offering marathon 'CoronaSutra' sex sessions for £300
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[myothernameis]

Still seeing new profiles created as well. Surely they shouldn’t let anyone select escorting as service

Punter see new profile, likes the look of the escort, makes booking and turns up

Knocks on door, and let in, only to be arrested, not for soliciting, but being charged under the covid-19 law, your travel is not essential 

[hornyguylondon]

Punter see new profile, likes the look of the escort, makes booking and turns up

Knocks on door, and let in, only to be arrested, not for soliciting, but being charged under the covid-19 law, your travel is not essential

But officer I'm delivering the impoverished lady some essential protein 

[Londonpunter30]

Punter see new profile, likes the look of the escort, makes booking and turns up

Knocks on door, and let in, only to be arrested, not for soliciting, but being charged under the covid-19 law, your travel is not essential

Or AW could stop facilitating this.  AW fail to take action, so the government block access to the site

[freeze44]

Or AW could stop facilitating this.  AW fail to take action, so the government block access to the site

Think it would require legislation for the government to start blocking sites. Some countries already do that- China and Saudi Arabia for example.

[Londonpunter30]

Think it would require legislation for the government to start blocking sites. Some countries already do that- China and Saudi Arabia for example.

I know, which is why I said government to start blocking sites.

We’ve already seen Pirate Bay blocked, I’m sure that’s not the only site on the list

[GingerNuts]

I know, which is why I said government to start blocking sites.

We’ve already seen Pirate Bay blocked, I’m sure that’s not the only site on the list

Anyone with an ounce of know how can still access blocked sites.

[Rochelle]

I know, which is why I said government to start blocking sites.

We’ve already seen Pirate Bay blocked, I’m sure that’s not the only site on the list

There are many other sites which are accessible. I download or stream stuff all the time.

[Xtro]

I know, which is why I said government to start blocking sites.

We’ve already seen Pirate Bay blocked, I’m sure that’s not the only site on the list

So many ways around that though;  Proxies, VPN's, Fake IP software, etc

[winkywanky]

Prostitutes ignore lockdown by offering marathon 'CoronaSutra' sex sessions for £300
External Link/Members Only

How to completely wind-up anyone not involved in prostitution, and totally fuck it up for anyone else that is.

There's quietly carrying on and hoping no-one will notice, and then there's flaunting it in the govt's face, and being complete and utter fucking cunts of the highest order (I'm talking about their behaviour, not the quality of the goods). Un-fucking-believable.

I actually think they should spend a couple of nights in the cells for this, but then they'd put the poor coppers at risk. FFS.

[daviemac]

I know, which is why I said government to start blocking sites.

We’ve already seen Pirate Bay blocked, I’m sure that’s not the only site on the list

Why do you want such a nanny state, in my opinion we should all take responsibility for our own actions. When I was very young my parents used to put things out of reach or out of sight, as I got older I learned more self control, understood I couldn't have some things  and that was no longer necessary, I seem to have carried that though my adult life. 

I don't need AW to be shut down for me to know now is not the time to be punting.

[Home Alone]

Prostitutes ignore lockdown by offering marathon 'CoronaSutra' sex sessions for £300
External Link/Members Only

I love the way the tabloids always seem to refer to meetings as "romps". I've never been conscious of romping at a meeting.

[Londonpunter30]

Why do you want such a nanny state, in my opinion we should all take responsibility for our own actions. When I was very young my parents used to put things out of reach or out of sight, as I got older I learned more self control, understood I couldn't have some things  and that was no longer necessary, I seem to have carried that though my adult life. 

I don't need AW to be shut down for me to know now is not the time to be punting.

But then why should AW be able to profit from a practice that’s outlawed at the moment ?

[sparkus]

I know, which is why I said government to start blocking sites.

We’ve already seen Pirate Bay blocked, I’m sure that’s not the only site on the list

Just like Harriet Harman's 2009 speech calling on Arnie to close down a certain site

[daviemac]

But then why should AW be able to profit from a practice that’s outlawed at the moment ?

They aren't, they are just hosting adverts and advertising is not outlawed in this country at the minute, look at the television, newspapers and online there's adverts all over, it's those who take action on the adverts and meet face to face who are breaking the law. AW have removed the facility to make escort booking, they've posted warnings and Strawberry posted this. -

I received an email to my email address,from AW a couple of weeks ago, encouraging and explaining adding webcam and direct chat services to your profile. The email  was very encouraging made it sound relatively easy, laid out the steps to get up and running. Whilst looking into this for myself I discovered an issue in adding these services to my profile which was sorted out by their customer service live chat facility. This is a way to obtain often rapid, immediate help from customer service team. Only downside is that this instant customer service facility is only available on weekdays 9-5.

Sounds like the email either wasn't sent to everyone, or has disappeared into junk mail?

Just had a look it was received on 16th March, encouraging moving onto online services in response to declines in face to face meetings during CV-19.

The email laid out descriptions and explanations of the different online services, with links to articles and guides to help get set up.

Yet you want them closed down because you can't control yourself and need things to be 'put out of reach'.

I know that AW are a pack of money grabbing bastards, but at least they are doing what they can to prevent face to face meetings whilst still making something. In my opinion no government would expect them to do any more.

B&Q and other hardware stores are open and I've never noticed them selling bread or any other 'essential' items.

[sparkus]

Whilst Vivastreet no longer carries prices and urges social distancing, the ads still up there do have phone numbers showing.