New Forum Feature

[Happyjose]

Another new feature appears to be the forum software auto correcting the oft used pr***ie with 'sex worker'

Looks like there's changes afoot

[mh]

Another new feature appears to be the forum software auto correcting the oft used pr***ie with 'sex worker'

Looks like there's changes afoot

Only when used with the currency signs or also without? 

[Happyjose]

Only when used with the currency signs or also without? 

without in this case

[mh]

without in this case

Blimey. Let me just check if "punter" is changed to "procurer of sexual services".

Nope, seems OK. 

[Happyjose]

Blimey. Let me just check if "punter" is changed to "procurer of sexual services".

Nope, seems OK. 

Wankpuffin is also ok

As you were

[Marmalade]

I’ve noticed that as well. I don’t have any objections to it at the moment. It could turn out well. Those advocating decriminalisation and making prossying sound more a normal feature of the civilisation we live in use it. I also use more ‘vulgar’ terms on occasion though, especially when I think some fluffies need de-sensitising for their own good and the health of the forum. e.g. something like “the most beautiful lady I’ve ever had the privilege of beholding” might be paraphrased as “the pair of piss-flaps that you saw last night”.

It’s one thing recognising the accurate job that prostitutes do: it’s another question entirely to stop punters to become subservient to flowery language. Our respected forum owner of many years until this month recognised the difference — even more clearly than I did on occasion — and I’m sure Head1 will too.

ISG went too much the ‘res-pec-ful’ way some years back and became much worse off, I think partly as a result. While it still functions on many levels, major areas are now populated only by rich punters who pay unnecessarily high prices to the ‘beautiful ladies’ (many of whom top up more cheaply in their off-time elsewhere, unreported). It is a waste of time even mentioning vfm as the high-payers will unleash a torrent of sophisticated abuse suggesting that women offering much better rates must be “criminals, drug-users, infected, dangerous etc etc’. It’s exactly the same language used by self-described ‘high class escorts’ to abuse punters who pay lower rates.

‘Sex worker’ to me sounds better than ‘Service provider’. It’s more specific. But we use either term as short-hand for ‘prostitute’ - a woman who accepts cash to let us fuck her. ‘P****ie’ was just affectionate shorthand — I’ve no idea why the feminazis took such objection to it. ‘Sex-worker’ of course includes those who work in the rip-off stripper industry as well as the new lazy-industry of camming. At least with p****ie everyone knew what we meant!

[Marmalade]

As in the previous reign though — we voice opinions but it’s not a democracy. We are all guests in a forum owned by one person who continues it at his own expense and for our benefit. If anyone ever seriously objects we can fuck off. Simples! 

[Happyjose]

As in the previous reign though — we voice opinions but it’s not a democracy. We are all guests in a forum owned by one person who continues it at his own expense and for our benefit. If anyone ever seriously objects we can fuck off. Simples! 

 

[JackJones]

All praise to "OldAdmin" for EVERYTHING he has done for this site. Stabilising it, managing it, improving it and now, most importantly, handing it on to another Admin to continue.

There are no guarantees of course. If you're not paying for something you're usually the product. Thankfully not in this case, but we have to accept we have no entitlement to this brilliant resource and no comeback it it dropped off the net tomorrow.

But handing it on to a new Admin who has pledged to keep it going on the same basis is a great act of benevolence. It could have been tempting to sell out.

Thanks, OldAdmin. And hello Head1...
 

  Thanks for everything Admin.  Welcome Head1!

[Marmalade]

Something to be aware of ...

• We have commonly abbreviated Service Provider to SP.
•Bearing in mind the new auto-transposition of Pr***ie to Sex Worker:
•That would now abbreviate to SW: which unfortunately is the same two letters most of us commonly use if referring to streetwalkers.

Under the old rules, discussion of streetwalkers is allowed (as evidenced in the popular London thread).
The rules have (temporarily I suspect maybe) have disappeared; although a lot of punters consider all streetwalkers ‘horrible’ or ‘dangerous’ or similar, others don’t. Worth mentioning this is to an extent something that is local to the U.K. and a certain other countries. Swiss SWs for instance, are pretty respectable and reliable, as are those in Hong Kong. And legal or fully tolerated in both countries. If we get quite literal about it, girls offering services from the street in Bangkok or Pattaya don’t seem that different to those in gogo bars — except you have to barfine them if they’re sitting on the premises. 

[dubs]

Something to be aware of ...

• We have commonly abbreviated Service Provider to SP.
•Bearing in mind the new auto-transposition of Pr***ie to Sex Worker:
•That would now abbreviate to SW: which unfortunately is the same two letters most of us commonly use if referring to streetwalkers.

Under the old rules, discussion of streetwalkers is allowed (as evidenced in the popular London thread).
The rules have (temporarily I suspect maybe) have disappeared; although a lot of punters consider all streetwalkers ‘horrible’ or ‘dangerous’ or similar, others don’t. Worth mentioning this is to an extent something that is local to the U.K. and a certain other countries. Swiss SWs for instance, are pretty respectable and reliable, as are those in Hong Kong. And legal or fully tolerated in both countries. If we get quite literal about it, girls offering services from the street in Bangkok or Pattaya don’t seem that different to those in gogo bars — except you have to barfine them if they’re sitting on the premises.

"Sex Worker" also covers lap dancers, webcam girls, pornstars etc which is not what this site is about.  I tend to use WG although some do deserve the pro"$$"ie tag when they are only focused on the money and not providing a fair service for payment.

Perhaps the new admin is trying to make the site more media-friendly which is a good move considering how quotes are taken out of context in media.

I guess not everyone will support or agree with all changes, but OldAdmin has built good foundations and its easy to see what has happened to other forums that do not change to keep up with the zeitgeist.

I've also noticed the forum has lost about 100,000 members recently, have none-posting members been purged from the database?

[Fuzzyduck]

I've also noticed the forum has lost about 100,000 members recently, have none-posting members been purged from the database?

I assumed there was some communication to zero-posters to either get active or get deleted due to loads of random virgins popping out of the woodwork with piss-poor first posts, e.g. just "Thanks for the review."

[mh]

I tend to use WG although some do deserve the pro"$$"ie tag when they are only focused on the money and not providing a fair service for payment.

I agree, I almost always use WG, it doesn't have a positive or negative connotation in my mind, doesn't get confused with other abbreviations or imply they are a different kind of "SW".
 

[Marmalade]

I was just reading the Abbreviations List. External Link/Members Only

As the old p-word appears at least twice perhaps we can assume the rule is not retroactive?

I enjoyed reading the list. Some definitions are very standard: quite a few others seem to me to bear OldAdmin’s unique and incisive hallmark. Honestly, he could spot shekel-shifting p—— bullshitter faster than you could say sexworker.

Might I (in another world) suggest the addition to the list:
Sex Worker Polite euphemism for a prostitute. A woman who lies on her back and opens her legs rather than doing an proper work. 

[Happyjose]

I was just reading the Abbreviations List. External Link/Members Only

As the old p-word appears at least twice perhaps we can assume the rule is not retroactive?

I enjoyed reading the list. Some definitions are very standard: quite a few others seem to me to bear OldAdmin’s unique and incisive hallmark. Honestly, he could spot shekel-shifting p—— bullshitter faster than you could say sexworker.

Might I (in another world) suggest the addition to the list:
Sex Worker Polite euphemism for a prostitute. A woman who lies on her back and opens her legs rather than doing an proper work. 

Looking back through my own posts all such references have been changed by the forum software (as far back as I could be bothered checking)

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[Kev40ish]

I was just reading the Abbreviations List. External Link/Members Only

As the old p-word appears at least twice perhaps we can assume the rule is not retroactive?

I enjoyed reading the list. Some definitions are very standard: quite a few others seem to me to bear OldAdmin’s unique and incisive hallmark. Honestly, he could spot shekel-shifting p—— bullshitter faster than you could say sexworker.

Might I (in another world) suggest the addition to the list:
Sex Worker Polite euphemism for a prostitute. A woman who lies on her back and opens her legs rather than doing an proper work. 

I would have thought that puntingwiki is a total separate website, so probably no auto corrections have been put in place there.

[PatMacGroin]

I don't think I use the P word very often in my posts (couldn't type the actual word just now without an auto correct, even using $$. You only notice the change in the preview window before you post, not in your typed text). So I was wondering what you guys are on about. Decided to do an advanced search of the word to see if I could notice an example. Strangely the search function brought up hits for loads of posts. However, none of them contain the P word, all of them contain the term "Sex Worker" instead.

So clearly, someone has been doing some find and replace style editing of historical content here on UKP. Although the search function hasn't caught on yet.

That's just weird. Is there some legal reason for doing this? Or is it simply to appease some sense of politically correct offensiveness?

I am very concerned about the precedent it creates. Does it mean that from now on Head1/New Admin/the new moderators can choose to edit and censor any of our posts past/current/future as they please?

If my reviews can be re-written to suit someone else's tastes (influenced by political correctness, or some other agenda) I might just think twice about posting any more.

Screen shots, for your reference. Showing search criteria, and then a sample of the first few results:

Hidden Image/Members OnlyHidden Image/Members Only

[daviemac]

I don't think I use the P word very often in my posts (couldn't type the actual word just now without an auto correct, even using $$. You only notice the change in the preview window before you post, not in your typed text). So I was wondering what you guys are on about. Decided to do an advanced search of the word to see if I could notice an example. Strangely the search function brought up hits for loads of posts. However, none of them contain the P word, all of them contain the term "Sex Worker" instead.

So clearly, someone has been doing some find and replace style editing of historical content here on UKP. Although the search function hasn't caught on yet.

That's just weird. Is there some legal reason for doing this? Or is it simply to appease some sense of politically correct offensiveness?

I am very concerned about the precedent it creates. Does it mean that from now on Head1/New Admin/the new moderators can choose to edit and censor any of our posts past/current/future as they please?

If my reviews can be re-written to suit someone else's tastes (influenced by political correctness, or some other agenda) I might just think twice about posting any more.

Is it just one word you're complaining about? as it doesn't seem to bother anyone else. The option has always been there for OldAdmin to edit posts, that's how he used to take addresses etc out.

[PatMacGroin]

Is it just one word you're complaining about? as it doesn't seem to bother anyone else. The option has always been there for OldAdmin to edit posts, that's how he used to take addresses etc out.

It's not so much a complaint. It's more of an observation. Brought to my attention by several of the previous comments in this thread.

Granted, OldAdmin had the capacity to edit and even delete old posts. There are a number of reasonable reasons for doing it. Including the example you have given of protecting any individuals, WG and Punters, from being outed.

It's not even a word that I like or use. But, I am saying it's a bit odd to retrospectively edit years worth of posts in this way. The only reason that I can see is to avoid causing some perceived offense. As you said, it's just one word, why go to all the trouble of cleansing it from the site? Has that word suddenly become more offensive that it was over the past decade or so?

Or, is there another reason for doing it?

[Marmalade]

Is it just one word you're complaining about? as it doesn't seem to bother anyone else. The option has always been there for OldAdmin to edit posts, that's how he used to take addresses etc out.

I don't think it's a big enough deal just yet to bother Head1 about, but I think what many members would like would be to see a statement on it as to why it is occurring. There's often certain words that a forum disallows and for good reasons – ISG for instance has quite a few though I can't remember what they are. It's been policy for a while that no links to other UK 'punting' sites are to be posted, since they don't return the favour. It was in the Rules. So everyone knows what the rules are, and the reasons, and nobody breaks them.

If Head1 posts a statement on it at some time (and any other non-allowed words) that should put it to rest, but he's probably pretty busy just now. To me it's a slight inconvenience that's all, but as long as I know that the software is going to alter it it's up to me. It's a lot quicker to type than 'prostitute' or 'sex worker'.

If it becomes a case that we have to use ultra-respectful words all the time as if they are on some sort of glorious pedestal, then it will no longer be the same forum and the sex workers will have beaten UKP into submission. But I don't think that's going to happen. There are good and bad sex workers, honest women and lying scum: we've always been allowed to note the difference and express our opinions. I remember spending a half hour writing a review for the old pimp site only to have it redacted, so I stopped contributing. Whether the owners get paid or not, I don't get paid to write reviews. They are contributions in kind to help fellow punters. Negative reviews especially are very helpful to punters in knowing which sex workers they might want to avoid, but they can backfire on the reviewer in certain areas if the sex worker or her mates take umbrage and were to work out who the reviewer is.

We're all here to help each other (except for one or two fluffies and ego-polishers). Censorship is alien to UKP: but sensible rulings are welcome.

Same for the wiki. One is barely credited for time put in there, and quite rightly, but it is a service to fellow punters.

Maybe for now we should at least use the phrase service provider occasionally. The acronym is so common but eventually no-one would know what it meant (and 'SW' is problematic for reasons stated).

[Happyjose]

The banning of the commonly used term could be viewed as a significant cultural change to the site.

It may not be that, but in the absence of any clear communication it’s inevitable that members will attempt to fill in the gaps themselves

While appreciating that the new owner will be busy with the technical aspects of the change, a brief statement of intent would I think be appreciated by all.

This is, after all, the biggest change in the site since it’s inception, certainly for the majority of contributing members, and we all appreciate that someone has taken on the onerous and largely thankless task of keeping it going

[James999]

The banning of the commonly used term could be viewed as a significant cultural change to the site.

It does have that feel about it 

[James999]

The option has always been there for OldAdmin to edit posts, that's how he used to take addresses etc out.

But he didn't abuse the facility, and removing information is very different to changing words in a post 

[daviemac]

Or, is there another reason for doing it?

We're all here to help each other (except for one or two fluffies and ego-polishers). Censorship is alien to UKP: but sensible rulings are welcome.

Same for the wiki. One is barely credited for time put in there, and quite rightly, but it is a service to fellow punters.

Maybe for now we should at least use the phrase service provider occasionally. The acronym is so common but eventually no-one would know what it meant (and 'SW' is problematic for reasons stated).

Nobody wants to see censorship here and I'm sure that it isn't going to happen. I cannot speak on their behalf but I think Head1 and the 2 admin's are still 'finding their feet' so to speak and I'm sure a statement will be posted in due course.

It only seems to be one word that gets censored at the minute so in the mean time I think it's just a case of carry on as best we can until the new owners get things sorted.

[James999]

Nobody wants to see censorship here and I'm sure that it isn't going to happen.
It only seems to be one word that gets censored

You've contradicted yourself there, just saying 

It does seem a big ethos shift and without any statement to support the change members will have no idea if it's the start of many changes or some other reason, at best it seems very odd 

I'm probably i'm one of the worst "offenders" of using the term, so surely a PM asking not to use it (with a logical reason) would have been easier than changing coding?

[daviemac]

You've contradicted yourself there, just saying 

Clarified it for you.

Unfortunately I do not know the answers to the points being raised, I do know that the 3 mods are working quite hard to keep the site running as normal as possible while the new owner is trying to sort things out.

[James999]

Just an odd thing to prioritise, but then without a statement we don't know why it was so important to him / her / them 

[Marmalade]

I looked up a couple of things out of interest so just sharing...

It’s an established word in most online dictionaries and also figures in Collins. Abbreviation for, or slang word for, you guessed it, prostitute! 

I was under the impression that the objection was maybe from that delightful band of characters we do business with who also call themselves prostitutes (eg The Prostitutes Collective, the campaign group).  So I logged on to their chat site (Saafe.info) to see what they had to say about it.

First I had to get past their delightful welcome message:

Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum! This is not a punting forum. Take your single brain cell and shitty attitude elsewhere. This ban is not set to expire.

C’mon girls... we love you really... Is it something I said?

I had to flip a couple of switches to get past the sweet talk then did a search. The word is commonly used there and I didn’t notice them all screaming about it. On the contrary...

I use P****** because I always have - it's a contraction of 'prostitute' and I've heard it since I was at school. I don't like Americanisms and don't use them, so if I want something less 'formal' than prostitute it's perfect and I think it's friendlier sounding. I detest 'escort' and the fact I have to use it on my website for the search engines pains me every day.

So maybe it’s a bit too fluffie?  (I’ve starred out the word she used as it’s banned here, but she didn’t say Sex Worker).

It’s only a word, no more objectionable than its un-shortened form it seems... maybe Head1 will tell us that the autocensor was subject to a teething problem in the crossover. I don’t think anyone’s hot under the collar about it. It would just be nice to know what the score is. (If the thread title included a reference to the discussion I expect more members would have a view though).

 

[smiths]

Nobody wants to see censorship here and I'm sure that it isn't going to happen. I cannot speak on their behalf but I think Head1 and the 2 admin's are still 'finding their feet' so to speak and I'm sure a statement will be posted in due course.

It only seems to be one word that gets censored at the minute so in the mean time I think it's just a case of carry on as best we can until the new owners get things sorted.

I disagree, I imagine a number of posters especially some WGs would love to see censorship on UKP. I have no idea if this is censorship and I use WG myself which is still working so am not bothered about 1 word I don't use if that's what it is.

[Marmalade]

It appears no less than 15 times in the UKP Wiki Glossary. By which I conclude that it’s a standard UKP term. But if “punter” gets banned I guess the site could be called UKP.ps (U.K. People Paying for Sex).

Hey ho... (or should that be “Hey Sex worker...?) 

[James999]

It appears no less than 15 times in the UKP Wiki Glossary. By which I conclude that it’s a standard UKP term. But if “punter” gets banned I guess the site could be called UKP.ps (U.K. People Paying for Sex).

Hey ho... (or should that be “Hey Sex worker...?) 

You are now taking the URINE and will be told to INTERCOURSE off 

[Blackpool Rock]

Old Admin decided what was and wasn't allowed / acceptable when he was the Owner / Admin and we all had a choice whether to accept it or not post on the site.
We now have a new Owner and Admin whose stance on a number of things will inevitable be slightly different however we still have the same choice as before.

Personally I don't see why there is an issue with the "P" word which is just a slang term but not overly offensive IMHO however i'm also not going to get in a spin if it's no longer allowed.
If censorship of one word is the worst change that happens then happy days 
Seems like 1st world problems really 

I'd also suggest that the new management may not be so obliging to some members in terms of what they are and aren't allowed to post / get away with / push the limits.
Even if we as individuals have a reasonably long standing on here Old Admin knew the history and how far he would allow different members to take things whereas the new management may have a stricter policy.
While I don't believe that i crossed the line ever or certainly not by far i'm also wary of the possible need to reign things in a bit, if anyone has any doubt then take a look at some of the recent banning reasons

[smiths]

Old Admin decided what was and wasn't allowed / acceptable when he was the Owner / Admin and we all had a choice whether to accept it or not post on the site.
We now have a new Owner and Admin whose stance on a number of things will inevitable be slightly different however we still have the same choice as before.

Personally I don't see why there is an issue with the "P" word which is just a slang term but not overly offensive IMHO however i'm also not going to get in a spin if it's no longer allowed.
If censorship of one word is the worst change that happens then happy days 
Seems like 1st world problems really 

I'd also suggest that the new management may not be so obliging to some members in terms of what they are and aren't allowed to post / get away with / push the limits.
Even if we as individuals have a reasonably long standing on here Old Admin knew the history and how far he would allow different members to take things whereas the new management may have a stricter policy.
While I don't believe that i crossed the line ever or certainly not by far i'm also wary of the possible need to reign things in a bit, if anyone has any doubt then take a look at some of the recent banning reasons

Head1 banned a poster I knew was a tout last night, I had previously shared my suspicions with a mod, no idea if the 2 things are linked but it was good to see him on the ball.

[NIK]

I agree, I almost always use WG, it doesn't have a positive or negative connotation in my mind, doesn't get confused with other abbreviations or imply they are a different kind of "SW".
 

I have always hated the term 'wg.' It implies prossies are the only women who work. 

On the odd occasions I have actually referred to the job in front of them I have reluctantly used 'escort'. This was before the now common and 'politically correct' term of sex worker.
Personally, being an old unreconstructed bastard, I still prefer 'prostitute.'

Significantly, two of the best girls I ever saw happily referred to themselves as 'prostitutes.'
Whilst some of my worst, or certainly poor vfm, experiences been with 'courtesans.'

Ironic innit? 

[NIK]

I see even one of my 'politically incorrect' terms in the previous post has been automatically altered.

Ah, how times change! 

[Fuzzyduck]

Personally I don't see why there is an issue with the "P" word which is just a slang term but not overly offensive IMHO however i'm also not going to get in a spin if it's no longer allowed.
If censorship of one word is the worst change that happens then happy days 
Seems like 1st world problems really 

Yes, it's only 1 word (as of now) but sets a precedent that other things will also be verboten. That's absolutely fine, Head1 can do what he likes, but it's strikes me as quite odd that this single word has been targeted over others (personally I think whore is worse) and it's been done at this time when there must be bigger structural and design issues the Management are looking at. Feels like a test for other changes to come. As many others have voiced, it would great to see the new rules soon.

Also, for the moment, pro55ie seems to work so I guess some more tweaks are required.

[tynetunnel]

Just an odd thing to prioritise, but then without a statement we don't know why it was so important to him / her / them 

I never thought this would happen - but I agree with James999!  If the new owner and admins are that busy getting to grips, it seems an odd thing to prioritise. It’s not my site, I’m just a member - but it would be nice to know the ethos behind this very deliberate decision 

[Doc Holliday]

A word of caution re auto censoring. There are many ways around it by spacing etc but I once kept doing this on a forum as I couldn't see why it was an issue (as well as out of curiosity/fun). It mattered a lot to the mods however and I was shown the door.

Clearly this matters to some degree to someone 'new' and as you don't know who that is you would be wise to tread carefully.

As I also found out to my cost once, 'seniority' counts for nothing with new management.

[Blackpool Rock]

A word of caution re auto censoring. There are many ways around it by spacing etc but I once kept doing this on a forum as I couldn't see why it was an issue (as well as out of curiosity/fun). It mattered a lot to the mods however and I was shown the door.

Clearly this matters to some degree to someone 'new' and as you don't know who that is you would be wise to tread carefully.

As I also found out to my cost once, 'seniority' counts for nothing with new management.

Yes that was the same as my thoughts in Reply #81
I also tried various alternative ways of writing the "P" work and viewed them in preview, most worked but I decided against publicising them as i'm neither aiming to piss against the wind or piss off the new guys

[theoldmaggot]

It is a bit strange...Hopefully we see some comment or announcement about it.

[daviemac]

I see even one of my 'politically incorrect' terms in the previous post has been automatically altered.

Ah, how times change! 

I can't comment on the political correctness issue but I think it is just going to take a little bit of time for the new owner to 'get to grips' with the way things work behind the scenes and get any problems ironed out.
 

[OakTree]

It is perhaps an indication of a new direction and it does slightly move away from the lads locker room environment we've come accustomed to.

[James999]

I can't comment on the political correctness issue but I think it is just going to take a little bit of time for the new owner to 'get to grips' with the way things work behind the scenes and get any problems ironed out.

Which makes it odd that they would focus on censorship 

[Marmalade]

I see even one of my 'politically incorrect' terms in the previous post has been automatically altered.

Ah, how times change! 

Trouble is we just don’t know. If it is politically incorrect then to ‘take the hint’ a lot of other things might be. This is where some rules would be helpful. Would he/she/they like us also to avoid the word ‘prostitute’? (Which seems to me literally just the same thing).

If it’s just a dislike of that specific shortened form and just a ‘tidying up’ then we have nothing to worry about. I’m personally not that fond of SP or WG (the latter, when pronounced, also means someone from Glasgow in the Scots dialect, or vernacular, a “weegie”, being short for Glaswegian).

It’s quicker to write than sex worker (and do we have to capitalise it as per the autocorrect?) ... so if I write using the old term, and happily accept it being autocorrected, is that taking the piss or simple convenience?

I’ve used it in the past as a purely neutral term, or one that I understand as being slightly nicer and less formal than prostitute (we do after all use their services). I think I use the word prostitute when some woman comes on here with airs and graces, refusing to recognise that that is what she is — the media of course also use it as a term of disapproval: they never use it’s shortened form, as we do. ‘Whore’ to me is slightly more disapproving, and ‘hooker’ an Americanism, to be used mostly for variety.

Although I agree that ‘service provider’ or SP is a rather meaningless euphemism, I use it sometimes as a mark of respect towards certain women members who are making useful contributions, whether inside info or pharmacology. (‘Whore’ being the opposite). I use stronger terms like ‘a pair of pissflaps’ or occasionally ‘cunthole’ either when a sex worker is being rude or more commonly when a fluffie is talking in lala land. It’s not a case of disparaging prostitutes as a profession, just the odd fuckwit.

So if the mods can’t enlighten us as to the reasons for the autocorrect we’ll wait a bit and see. Old Admin was always very forthcoming about reasons for things and where we stood so perhaps Head1 will be too. 

[daviemac]

Which makes it odd that they would focus on censorship 

Unfortunately I know as much as you in regard to censorship, I don't know if that is something that has to be added or if it was in the forum system to begin with and was removed at some stage.

All we can do at the minute is stick with it and wait until things are sorted, with the mods working round any issues that arise.   

[James999]

He / She / They are probably working on your salary & employment package and deciding who to use for your company pension etc 

[Marmalade]

A word of caution re auto censoring. There are many ways around it by spacing etc but I once kept doing this on a forum as I couldn't see why it was an issue (as well as out of curiosity/fun). It mattered a lot to the mods however and I was shown the door.

Clearly this matters to some degree to someone 'new' and as you don't know who that is you would be wise to tread carefully.

As I also found out to my cost once, 'seniority' counts for nothing with new management.

I have always said to the previous Admin that I’m ready to go at any time (i.e.  should my contributions not be welcome). The owner is the judge of what and who is welcome, and I try not to get too attached to the forum even though I’ve ‘been around’ for it seems like ages. I remind myself that it can be addictive and time-consuming and I’m perfectly happy to poke my jammy in a welcoming vagina without reporting on it, or advising others on how to get their legover, paid or unpaid!

Quite often I have to tell myself to shut up so the last thing I would want to do would be rattling on unwanted. I can take it or leave it, and enjoy both equally. I respect the board owner out of courtesy, as one would at any social gathering to which one was invited, but there’s no need for warnings or threats – a polite request to fuck off is more than enough. And – in my opinion – so it should be for anyone. 
 

[Doc Holliday]

Jeez there's no need to get all melancholy 

Its just an auto censored word ... not the end of the world!!

[Marmalade]

Jeez there's no need to get all melancholy 

Its just an auto censored word ... not the end of the world!!

Are you melancholy? It’s a discussion point, worth examining for how we use the forum. An intellectual exercise that could have practical implications.  Cheer up. 

[James999]

Its just an auto censored word ...

Factually that's correct, but if someone got shot would you say it's just a bullet?

It's not the censoring of the word but the fact that it was implemented at a time when the owners he / she / they have just taken over and finding their feet so to speak, to put censorship as his / her / their top priority