A Place for Punters NOT WG!

[Schwing]

I thought this site was a place for us Punters to come talk, share advice and advise each other etc. BlowJobBabe is here on the site and I find it EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE that she’s basically trying to tout herself.

If anyone places a comment she doesn’t like its all “That’s Not True” “You’re Ride” etc. Well fuck that! I’m not happy she’s here and basically flouting the rules. Are we going to ban her? 

[sensualencounter]

I thought this site was a place for us Punters to come talk, share advice and advise each other etc. BlowJobBabe is here on the site and I find it EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE that she’s basically trying to tout herself.

If anyone places a comment she doesn’t like its all “That’s Not True” “You’re Ride” etc. Well fuck that! I’m not happy she’s here and basically flouting the rules. Are we going to ban her? 

If you’re unhappy with any of her comments then report them. The mods/ admin will then decide on a ban or not.

[Schwing]

If you’re unhappy with any of her comments then report them. The mods/ admin will then decide on a ban or not.

I’ve done that but the point I’m making is that this site is for Punters and NOT WG’s!

[winkywanky]

My take on it is that WGs do have something to offer on UKP, not least of which the perspective from 'the other side'. IMO this can lead to better punts, which is to everyone's benefit.

If you feel a WG has overstepped the mark, then as sensualencounter says, simply report her post and if deemed to be touting, she'll be warned/banned by a Mod.

I'm not suggesting it applies to you, but some on here do seem to have a sense of self-importance, and because it's a site for the benefit of punters, enjoy sticking it to the WGs by way of their self-styled 'summary justice'.

The punter isn't always right, the customer isn't always right. But yes, contributions from WGs certainly require scrutiny. Good natured jibes from the punting members can be fun, but sometimes comments can descend into thinly veiled misogyny from a few.

If you're concerned, report.

[Davey Dykes]

There's quite a few WG members, as long as they abide by the set rules I can't see any issue with it personally.

[winkywanky]

I’ve done that but the point I’m making is that this site is for Punters and NOT WG’s!

Sez who?

WGs are allowed to be members, it's in the rules.

[Thecunninglinguist]

I’ve done that but the point I’m making is that this site is for Punters and NOT WG’s!

The Rules
2 Service Providers
This site allows service providers to be members, but there is zero-tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. This site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers. All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

[Schwing]

[quote author=winkywanky link=topic=261814.msg2671951#msg2671951 date=1568832973

I'm not suggesting it applies to you, but some on here do seem to have a sense of self-importance, and because it's a site for the benefit of punters, enjoy sticking it to the WGs by way of their self-styled 'summary justice'.

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Don’t worry, I didn’t think you were and I’m not trying to make it seem like that. I personally think they should be invited here and then ONLY be allowed in this part of the forum. I feel that if a WG is allowed in a review section the temptation to try and make out X,Y & Z is too much.

If you were to put “X WG does BB” I’d listen to that or at least take it into consideration but letting someone like that into the reviews section will muddy the waters on who to trust and listen to. Don’t get me wrong......I KNOW first hand the Customer is not right lol but at the same time it doesn’t mean that anything WE say should just be put to the wayside

[scutty brown]

I thought this site was a place for us Punters to come talk, share advice and advise each other etc. BlowJobBabe is here on the site and I find it EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE that she’s basically trying to tout herself.

If anyone places a comment she doesn’t like its all “That’s Not True” “You’re Ride” etc. Well fuck that! I’m not happy she’s here and basically flouting the rules. Are we going to ban her? 

All she did was correct inaccurate pricing information that someone posted. What's the issue with that? No sign of touting that I can see.
Sounds more like paranoia on your part. Do women generally make you EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE ?

[Schwing]

All she did was correct inaccurate pricing information that someone posted. What's the issue with that? No sign of touting that I can see.
Sounds more like paranoia on your part. Do women generally make you EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE ?

No but WG’s on a site primarily for Punters do!

[winkywanky]

[quote author=winkywanky link=topic=261814.msg2671951#msg2671951 date=1568832973

I'm not suggesting it applies to you, but some on here do seem to have a sense of self-importance, and because it's a site for the benefit of punters, enjoy sticking it to the WGs by way of their self-styled 'summary justice'.



Don’t worry, I didn’t think you were and I’m not trying to make it seem like that. I personally think they should be invited here and then ONLY be allowed in this part of the forum. I feel that if a WG is allowed in a review section the temptation to try and make out X,Y & Z is too much.

If you were to put “X WG does BB” I’d listen to that or at least take it into consideration but letting someone like that into the reviews section will muddy the waters on who to trust and listen to. Don’t get me wrong......I KNOW first hand the Customer is not right lol but at the same time it doesn’t mean that anything WE say should just be put to the wayside

I've seen the thread to which you refer, personally I don't see much of a problem (although her chatty style is moderately annoying).

Like I say, you've reported the post, a Mod will view and adjudicate, just relax 

[winkywanky]

No but WG’s on a site primarily for Punters do!

Well the rules allow them to be here, so if that in itself makes you uncomfortable, you'll just have to deal with it.

[Villain79]

All she did was correct inaccurate pricing information that someone posted. What's the issue with that? No sign of touting that I can see.
Sounds more like paranoia on your part. Do women generally make you EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE ?

Just want to add that the price I put was the price I've paid and I've seen her three times so wasn't incorrect.
I like wgs on here but I think it can lead to some fluffy reviews when they know the lady is a member and will read it.

[Cryton123]

I thought this site was a place for us Punters to come talk, share advice and advise each other etc. BlowJobBabe is here on the site and I find it EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE that she’s basically trying to tout herself.

If anyone places a comment she doesn’t like its all “That’s Not True” “You’re Ride” etc. Well fuck that! I’m not happy she’s here and basically flouting the rules. Are we going to ban her? 

I’d say you need to chill the fuck out and not take this forum so seriously 

It’s a fantasy world dude, one we dip in and out of inbetween real life and this forum is just a small part of it. If you’re getting that wound up over such a trivial thing I’d say you need to re-evaluate things 

[wolves lad]

It says a lot that some WG’s feel the need to come on here, rather than just offer a genuine honest quality service and let that do there talking for them.

[Beamer]

It says a lot that some WG’s feel the need to come on here, rather than just offer a genuine honest quality service and let that do there talking for them.

Good point,  I  agree.
Plenty of WG's are members but I don't recall the type of crap raised here by some WG's or arguments regarding basic hygiene etc.
I guess the real issue is who is entitled to voice their opinion.........everyone!
At the end of the day a WG will get lots of repeat and new business if her service is what it says on the tin.

[Colston36]

This is what they call a dog in a manger attitude

[Samjos]

Good point,  I  agree.
Plenty of WG's are members but I don't recall the type of crap raised here by some WG's or arguments regarding basic hygiene etc.
I guess the real issue is who is entitled to voice their opinion.........everyone!
At the end of the day a WG will get lots of repeat and new business if her service is what it says on the tin.

spot on

[Samjos]

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It’s a fantasy world dude, one we dip in and out of inbetween real life and this forum is just a small part of it. If you’re getting that wound up over such a trivial thing I’d say you need to re-evaluate things 
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spot on

[Beamer]

This is what they call a dog in a manger attitude

Explain please

[greg101]

From Google.  A dog in the manger. Someone who is a dog in the manger wants to prevent other people from using or enjoying something that they cannot use or enjoy themselves. ... Note: One of Aesop's fables tells of a dog which prevented an ox from eating the hay in its manger, even though the dog could not eat the hay itself.

[Schwing]

From Google.  A dog in the manger. Someone who is a dog in the manger wants to prevent other people from using or enjoying something that they cannot use or enjoy themselves. ... Note: One of Aesop's fables tells of a dog which prevented an ox from eating the hay in its manger, even though the dog could not eat the hay itself.

If you’re referring to me mate I’d see her tomorrow if I wanted to. The fact that she feels the need to “correct” any negative things said about her says it all 🙄 I’m looking for someone who doesn’t feel the need to do that and is ACTUALLY worth the money spent.

Someone like Lilith Noir for example 👍🏻

[greg101]

If you’re referring to me mate

To the post above mine, self explanatory? no..

Explain please

[Lilywhite]

If you’re referring to me mate I’d see her tomorrow if I wanted to. The fact that she feels the need to “correct” any negative things said about her says it all 🙄 I’m looking for someone who doesn’t feel the need to do that and is ACTUALLY worth the money spent.

Providing you're not touting, abusive, lying, etc. is it really an issue? If someone is being an arse, like people have said - report and let Admin(s) see it.
I've found most who have lasted here have done so because they took criticism on board, improved, or were just always good SPs and have thick skin for the banter comments.

[Palomaxxxxxx]

Unless the WG is touting herself or being abusive...what’s the problem? If the WG in question is touting, then of course you should report her as she’s breaking rules. I’ve commented on reviews of me before to respond to confusion about the service I provide (eg. I provide RO but hadn’t ticked it in my likes list, by mistake)

If she’s responding to criticism constructively and taking it on board then I don’t think there’s an issue...I’ve received neutral reviews on here, that’s their opinion of their experience with me and they’re entitled to it! It’s something I have to work on

[Hoping]

Some people just like to get their Knickers in a twist, others prefer to get them off 

Some good points raised.  We all have to take criticism sometimes, whether we like it or not.

[sensualencounter]

I think the WG should have the right to reply. Those that rant, tout, lie etc get found out soon enough. And it can also bring out the wanky white knights, which helps us all to see them for what they are and then read any of their posts accordingly.

Although there is one in the SW that I still can't quite believe is on here due to her incessant self-touting and promoting and slagging off other WGs. But even that's useful as it means I have worked out that I have no wish whatsoever to see her.

[Palomaxxxxxx]

I think the WG should have the right to reply.

Yes they should. It’s our business at the end of the day. This forum isn’t the gospel truth and there are always two sides.

I had a user post something ludicrous saying I pretty much robbed him. It was untrue and I had turned him away due to poor hygiene. He was responding to every mention of me on here slating. This user has now been banned

[sensualencounter]

Yes they should. It’s our business at the end of the day. This forum isn’t the gospel truth and there are always two sides.

I had a user post something ludicrous saying I pretty much robbed him. It was untrue and I had turned him away due to poor hygiene. He was responding to every mention of me on here slating. This user has now been banned

I would temper your comment with the fact that we can't post on Saafe so any shit can get bandied about there and us punters have no right to reply. That is disappointing from a punter's perspective but I'm not saying two wrongs make a right.

[James999]

I had turned him away due to poor hygiene.

It's odd how that excuse gets rolled out when a Pro$sie gets negative feedback 

[Palomaxxxxxx]

I would temper your comment with the fact that we can't post on Saafe so any shit can get bandied about there and us punters have no right to reply. That is disappointing from a punter's perspective but I'm not saying two wrongs make a right.

I get where you’re coming from but saafe is for warnings about dangerous clients, not for reviewing our experience with a client. It’s a tool for our safety. We report timewaster’s, rapists and burglars.

The only time I could see a client get frustrated with a post on there is if they were reported for a look and go. Maybe the girl posting is a catfish.

[James999]

reported for a look and go.

If you find that clients are leaving when they see you face to face you should perhaps reduce the photoshop / editing on your profile and be a little more honest about things such as age stats etc 

[Palomaxxxxxx]

I’ve never had a look and go, I was referring to posts other users have made   

[James999]

I’ve never had a look and go,

Odd that you mention it then, and if you did you'd probably say they had bad hygiene anyway 

[Palomaxxxxxx]

Odd that you mention it then, and if you did you'd probably say they had bad hygiene anyway 

Yeah, probably. 

[winkywanky]

Something which has struck me when WGs post on here, they'll routinely put a 'xx' (kisses) on the end of their post.

I could see that that might wind up some of the guys here because in a way it denotes flirting. Of course girls and women tend to do that anyway, if I receive a text from pretty well any woman, family member or acquaintance, it will tend to have a couple of kisses on the end. So it's pretty normal for the laydeez.

However, in the context of this place, putting kisses on the end is maybe not a good idea. Keep it strictly factual (a bit of humour of course allowed) but no kisses perhaps?

[Roadster]

Something which has struck me when WGs post on here, they'll routinely put a 'xx' (kisses) on the end of their post.

I could see that that might wind up some of the guys here because in a way it denotes flirting. Of course girls and women tend to do that anyway, if I receive a text from pretty well any woman, family member or acquaintance, it will tend to have a couple of kisses on the end. So it's pretty normal for the laydeez.

However, in the context of this place, putting kisses on the end is maybe not a good idea. Keep it strictly factual (a bit of humour of course allowed) but no kisses perhaps?

Great idea mate.
xx

[winkywanky]

 

[sensualencounter]

I get where you’re coming from but saafe is for warnings about dangerous clients, not for reviewing our experience with a client. It’s a tool for our safety. We report timewaster’s, rapists and burglars.

The only time I could see a client get frustrated with a post on there is if they were reported for a look and go. Maybe the girl posting is a catfish.

I agree saafe is there for a different reason. But it would be good if the punter could possibly have a right to reply to what are sometimes false accusations or sometimes just totally shit reporting that shouldn’t warrant him being blacklisted.
There are also loads of threads completely slagging off punters and if a punter could respond then it might change the escorts’ thought processes. Example - “how many times can I cum” - that thread almost unanimously says that they ignore someone who asks as they think they’ll get a hard shagger. But the overwhelming reality is it’s because a punter has cum and been pushed out the door before time is up, especially if they cum quickly first of all.

[Lilywhite]

I get where you’re coming from but saafe is for warnings about dangerous clients, not for reviewing our experience with a client.

And there has never ever been a malicious warning posted on SAAFE as a direct response to a review posted here. 

[Palomaxxxxxx]

I agree saafe is there for a different reason. But it would be good if the punter could possibly have a right to reply to what are sometimes false accusations or sometimes just totally shit reporting that shouldn’t warrant him being blacklisted.
There are also loads of threads completely slagging off punters and if a punter could respond then it might change the escorts’ thought processes. Example - “how many times can I cum” - that thread almost unanimously says that they ignore someone who asks as they think they’ll get a hard shagger. But the overwhelming reality is it’s because a punter has cum and been pushed out the door before time is up, especially if they cum quickly first of all.

Having punters on saafe would not be a good idea at all. Imagine the amount of trolls and wind up merchants that would flood the place. You say that there are loads of threads slagging off punters but the way WG are spoken about here is not exactly pleasant sometimes.

And I’ve never heard of someone writing a false warning on saafe, have you got an example of that?What purpose would that serve and why would they do that? We know that you can easily just change your punting phone number and move on. It’s not like your business could be damaged like it could here.

[daviemac]

If you’re unhappy with any of her comments then report them. The mods/ admin will then decide on a ban or not.

I’ve done that but the point I’m making is that this site is for Punters and NOT WG’s!

We know you reported it and the action deemed most suitable by Admin / mods was taken. If you don't like it, tough.

Now you've started a new thread declaring what this site is about and who should be a member and who shouldn't. Read the rules and you will see SPs are allowed to be members, if you don't like it log off and don't log on again.

In fact several escort members have made far more useful contributions than you so maybe you need to up your game a bit.

[shyboy1]

SP’s should be able to contribute on here so long as they stick within the rules like all of us have to.
There’s no reason why they shouldn’t be able to put their side of a critical review, many of the girls take it on the chin ( pun intended) and will try to improve if a punter brings up a problem with their service or coms.
The site mods will soon step in if they think either party over steps the mark.
SB

[Happyjose]

Having punters on saafe would not be a good idea at all. Imagine the amount of trolls and wind up merchants that would flood the place. You say that there are loads of threads slagging off punters but the way WG are spoken about here is not exactly pleasant sometimes.

And I’ve never heard of someone writing a false warning on saafe, have you got an example of that?What purpose would that serve and why would they do that? We know that you can easily just change your punting phone number and move on. It’s not like your business could be damaged like it could here.

That's a pretty daft position to take

Regardless of your own personal opinion, on any sufficiently busy forum there's bound to be malicious posts from time to time, as there is on here. Motivation for such posts can be varied and often defy logic. Some folk like to cause mischief just because they can

The only issue is how management deal with it

[sensualencounter]

Having punters on saafe would not be a good idea at all. Imagine the amount of trolls and wind up merchants that would flood the place. You say that there are loads of threads slagging off punters but the way WG are spoken about here is not exactly pleasant sometimes.

And I’ve never heard of someone writing a false warning on saafe, have you got an example of that?What purpose would that serve and why would they do that? We know that you can easily just change your punting phone number and move on. It’s not like your business could be damaged like it could here.

This wasn’t meant to be a tit for tat. And you’re kind of proving my point now. You’re allowed to contradict stuff on here yet we can’t do that on saafe.
As for trolls etc. That’s nothing new and ukp has to deal with that day in day out. That’s the point of mods and reporting.
Maybe I’m changing my mind about escorts being allowed on here??

[Palomaxxxxxx]

You’re allowed to contradict stuff on here yet we can’t do that on saafe.

This forum is for reviewing someone’s service. Saafe is for our safety, we get some pretty sinister things posted on there. I can bet that clients who have raped or assaulted girls would deny it. Should they be allowed to post on there? Also, clients who are reported on there are usually repeat offenders and they are warned about on several other platforms by other WG. I’ve never heard of a ‘malicious warning’ or seen one. If you’re being respectful and you have good booking etiquette, there is no reason why a WG should write a warning about you... 

You can change your mind about us being allowed to be here, but it’s in the rules. 

[Lilywhite]

I’ve never heard of a ‘malicious warning’ or seen one.

Fair enough, just because something hasn't been seen, doesn't mean it does not exist. There have been a few warnings removed over the years. I myself have seen the evidence of a girl making something up (she admitted to it over whatsapp) to 'get back' at a client who gave a neg.

Does anyone here or on SAAFE really take everything they read as gospel? If so, possibly not the best hobby/industry to be in, what with all the people you 100% should not take at face value.

[Palomaxxxxxx]

That's a pretty daft position to take

Not really. I haven’t seen a ‘malicious warning’ and it doesn’t sound like anyone else has either. So, I’m struggling to believe there’s ever been one if no one can produce an example.

The mods on there are actually quite strict

[Palomaxxxxxx]

Does anyone here or on SAAFE really take everything they read as gospel?

Not me...you have to go off your own experience 

[Lilywhite]

Not really. I haven’t seen a ‘malicious warning’ and it doesn’t sound like anyone else has either.

I have removed, or been removed from all SW related Whatsapp convos- so I can't. However we know there was false reports shared (I also cannot access UKE now).

Or do you want me try to get into the deleted post section of SAAFE? C'mon now.