Does anyone know about this? A doctor in the house?

[winkywanky]

I was being supportive posting +10
In agreement with you

There's me trying to work out why i should grow up
Its like i hit a raw nerve with my post
With use of the b word

Had a quick flick through your reviews to perhaps shed some light on this
As if by magic the number 10 appears again [assuming i can count]
The number of TS reviews you have posted
So my post hits just a little closer to home than for most UKP'ers
Whatever floats your boat is fine by me
TS is on my bucket list - post rather than pre
And one where it isn't obvious - so a thai or brazilian.  IE not looking like some bloke dressed up on a stag do
An element of doubt makes things fine by me
Have been doing some research to scratch this itch

I think you know what I mean by now. If you sound ignorant (I don't think you are) then your argument suffers. Calling people who use PrEP 'benders' is one such thing.

[winkywanky]

In relation to future long term savings this is debatable?

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If you want to know what individual drugs cost the NHS Primary Care see here External Link/Members Only  Page 61 for ED meds.

For PrEP see here External Link/Members Only

However in terms of cost of drugs it seems that PrEP is at a similar stage as ED meds were in terms of patents. A cost of £400 a month can be reduced to tens of pounds a month by using non licensed generic versions.

The website Goldfinch linked to early on is set up to assist/safeguard  people wishing to buy online. External Link/Members Only

I'm doing my bit to save the NHS by procuring my own (generic) Viagra from Lloyds online pharmacy  .

I could effectively get it for 'free' because with other regular (unrelated) medication I already pay for an annual Pre-Payment Card (it's not a card any more), but because it's effectively recreational for me I choose to buy my own. It adds £4 or so to the cost of a punt.

Re: WGs using PrEP, I believe most of the foreign WGs that use it do indeed buy the relatively cheap generic versions themselves. One would hope they come from 'reliable sources'.

[Colston36]

University in 54!! you really are an old git 

There was some truth in that, which continued up until the seventies, but by the 1980s Universities were broadly only accepting straight A students for Medics Dentists and Vets and which has continued until this day.

With regard to earning potential this is very complicated due to so many variables and goes even more off tangent 
My only comments would be that the 'mega high' earning days of NHS dentistry have gone due to contract changes. Also the GP NHS contracts have fared better and an element of the current GP shortage is that an increasing number are choosing to work part time. This still gives them a comfortable income, but is an attempt to reduce the workload stresses and improve the quality of their life.

Yes; 83. True re NHS dentistry, but on the private side they're coining it. Not just from rich patients but, to give the example of an escort I know, she couldn't wait for NHS and had to go private to keep working. Of course some on here think all escorts make a mint but of the 7 I know reasonably well only two are coining it.

[winkywanky]

Any serious dental work, have a nice holiday in Budapest where the fees are around 25% of what they are here.

Ze Germans have been getting their fixes and implants done there for the last 20yrs or more, they are a centre of excellence.

Just do your homework on quality providers, and the price of the work plus the holiday will still be less than having just the dental stuff done here.

Perhaps even some left over for a punt or two (but DFK probably off the menu).

[webpunter]

Crystal clear
However i didn't say that people who use PrEP are benders
My comment was that benders [for want of a better word - i do apologise if anyone is offended] are seeking to use it to avoid having to engage in safe sex
Fine by me but increasingly the NHS are picking up the tab for prescriptions
From the NHS perspective its a double edged sword - cough up for the drug to help prevent infection or have to provide lifetime care @ vast expense
You highlighted the various pitfalls 
I dunno bout you but i'm getting a bit bored of this thread heading off in different directions [albeit i am guilty in providing one such distraction]
So shall we let sleeping dogs lie ?

I think you know what I mean by now. If you sound ignorant (I don't think you are) then your argument suffers. Calling people who use PrEP 'benders' is one such thing.

[webpunter]

May i suggest this place - its tremendous & v.good VFM

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A bit of shopping on the massage girlies - nothing too serious - the burd i saw was bang on per the pics

If they were to add a jacuzzi or two to the suite of rooms it would be majestic

Any serious dental work, have a nice holiday in Budapest where the fees are around 25% of what they are here.

Ze Germans have been getting their fixes and implants done there for the last 20yrs or more, they are a centre of excellence.

Just do your homework on quality providers, and the price of the work plus the holiday will still be less than having just the dental stuff done here.

Perhaps even some left over for a punt or two (but DFK probably off the menu).

[winkywanky]

Crystal clear
However i didn't say that people who use PrEP are benders
My comment was that benders [for want of a better word - i do apologise if anyone is offended] are seeking to use it to avoid having to engage in safe sex
Fine by me but increasingly the NHS are picking up the tab for prescriptions
From the NHS perspective its a double edged sword - cough up for the drug to help prevent infection or have to provide lifetime care @ vast expense
You highlighted the various pitfalls 
I dunno bout you but i'm getting a bit bored of this thread heading off in different directions [albeit i am guilty in providing one such distraction]
So shall we let sleeping dogs lie ?

Er, you kind of did?

But points are made, let's move on 

[winkywanky]

May i suggest this place - its tremendous & v.good VFM

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If they were to add a jacuzzi or two to the suite of rooms it would be majestic

But does she have a Post-Grad Degree in Dentistry? 

[webpunter]

 
I'm off to the pub

Er, you kind of did?

But points are made, let's move on 

[winkywanky]

Imaginative décor, that place looks classy.

And bearing in mind in a major Central European city, good prices too.

[winkywanky]

I'm off to the pub

I just got back an hour ago! 

[webpunter]

I did kinda hint @ some oral fun
Got nowhere 
Maybe she didn't have the qualifications necessary 
Was only in Budapest for a couple of days & only one visit to the place
If i was there longer or repeat trips to do follow up sessions i deffo reck that YMMV would be heading in the right direction

But does she have a Post-Grad Degree in Dentistry? 

As the theme is 'doctor in the house' then in addition to not partaking in DFK after dentistry stuff i would also add RO as not the best idea
Not for a good few days anyways
 

[winkywanky]

I did kinda hint @ some oral fun
Got nowhere 
Maybe she didn't have the qualifications necessary 
Was only in Budapest for a couple of days & only one visit to the place
If i was there longer or repeat trips to do follow up sessions i deffo reck that YMMV would be heading in the right direction

As the theme is 'doctor in the house' then in addition to not partaking in DFK after dentistry stuff i would also add RO as not the best idea
Not for a good few days anyways

Well I've heard of a toothy blowjob, but a bridge and three implants sounds a bit drastic! 

[winkywanky]

in addition to not partaking in DFK after dentistry stuff i would also add RO as not the best idea
Not for a good few days anyways

Spot on.

[whiskyfan]

That is bloody expensive, and I agree, it's a lot of money to mitigate lifestyle risk to people who take it, and those who come into sexual contact with them.

Generics are now available online for around £50 a month. I didn't believe it but a WG provided links to a site she used on a UKE thread.

[winkywanky]

Cheap as chips really then in the scheme of things, certainly in terms of avoiding the near lifetime of treatment that catching HIV would result in.

But as discussed earlier, we don't want legions of young numpties thinking it'll make them immune to everything, and sadly a few will fuck around bareback, thinking this.

[winkywanky]

Now you mention that, I seem to remember there wasn't the usual 20yrs (or whatever it is) of the drug being exclusive to the Pharma company who developed it, weren't they persuaded to release it 'for the benefit of the world' or something?

[GingerNuts]

Yes; 83. True re NHS dentistry, but on the private side they're coining it. Not just from rich patients but, to give the example of an escort I know, she couldn't wait for NHS and had to go private to keep working. Of course some on here think all escorts make a mint but of the 7 I know reasonably well only two are coining it.

I'm surprised you haven't told the other five to increase their prices.

[Colston36]

I'm surprised you haven't told the other five to increase their prices.

The only claim I can make about myself on here besides antiquity and perversity is that I have spent almost a lifetime helping people to sell things, and increasing prices is hardly ever the key.

[GingerNuts]

The only claim I can make about myself on here besides antiquity and perversity is that I have spent almost a lifetime helping people to sell things, and increasing prices is hardly ever the key.

It depends. I actually told one she should put it up ... She did and I haven't seen her since. That was partly because although she's brilliant she's very inconvenient for me geographically, and I have four or five others I like who are closer, though more expensive than her ...

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Apologies I meant halving the death rate compared to 2018. Given that the world population is massively increased from 2018 and assuming a pandemic affected the same 1/3 of the population as it did then, the total number of deaths would be far greater than the 50 million and would indeed be at least double.

Least these days we know what causes Flu, a Virus, wasnt understood back then and where the secondary lung infecttion kicked off Antibotices were not even invented!

What was very odd and defining with the 1918-9 Flu was it took out the heatrly ones in society becase there immune systems kicked in and much too hardBesides replicating very quickly, the 1918 strain seems to trigger a particularly intense response from the immune system, including a ‘cytokine storm’ – the rapid release of immune cells and inflammatory molecules. Although a robust immune response should help us fight infection, an over-reaction of this kind can overload the body, leading to severe inflammation and a build-up of fluid in the lungs that could increase the chance of secondary infections. The cytokine storm might help to explain why young, healthy adults – who normally find it easier to shake off flu – were the worst affected, since in this case their stronger immune systems created an even more severe cytokine storm.

In fact some now think this actual virius variant has tamed itself as a dead "carrier" is no use to the virus - it needs to spead!

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[webpunter]

Perhaps an exception is 'Nelson Mandela'

Me thinks this translates to our fave sport

I see some cheap as chips rom in a shite location & its 

PS - i ain't suggesting wastin loads of folding on a 'courtesan'

I have spent almost a lifetime helping people to sell things, and increasing prices is hardly ever the key.

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[Colston36]

The contradiction is more apparent than real, and I didn't want to go into detail.

The only circumstances under which you can put prices up are normally where a) you improve your offering; some car brands, e.g. Toyota, are an example b) Where there is a sudden shortage, which could well be the case after Brexit c) where you are underpriced compared to the competition, which was the case with the girl I advised - and she did.

[Colston36]

Perhaps an exception is 'Nelson Mandela'

Me thinks this translates to our fave sport

I see some cheap as chips rom in a shite location & its 

PS - i ain't suggesting wastin loads of folding on a 'courtesan'

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Stella is not expensive.

[winkywanky]

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[Hobbit]

Oh, I dunno... External Link/Members Only

I wouldn't mind a pint of that. Is it on tap?

[GingerNuts]

The contradiction is more apparent than real, and I didn't want to go into detail.

The only circumstances under which you can put prices up are normally where a) you improve your offering; some car brands, e.g. Toyota, are an example b) Where there is a sudden shortage, which could well be the case after Brexit c) where you are underpriced compared to the competition, which was the case with the girl I advised - and she did.

What she could do is irrelevant. As a punter you advising her to increase her prices was a rather stupid thing to do.

[Xtro]

FFS   

I've just read this whole thread and it's taken me a good chunk of my Boxing Day to do so.   

A lot of you have gone so off topic and away on different tangents. Sometimes away with the fairies!
Yes, some of it is funny, some of it is personal and some of it is just downright insensitive!   

You know the problem here?
You're coming out with so much off-topic, non-punting related shit and I believe this is because ever since Admin stopped the discussions about anything other than punting, you've not had a platform to spout your bullshit opinions.

I conclude you're all suffering cold turkey!!      

Well I thought it was funny.   
 

[scutty brown]

FFS   

I've just read this whole thread and it's taken me a good chunk of my Boxing Day to do so.   

A lot of you have gone so off topic and away on different tangents. Sometimes away with the fairies!
Yes, some of it is funny, some of it is personal and some of it is just downright insensitive!   

You know the problem here?
You're coming out with so much off-topic, non-punting related shit and I believe this is because ever since Admin stopped the discussions about anything other than punting, you've not had a platform to spout your bullshit opinions.

I conclude you're all suffering cold turkey!!      

Well I thought it was funny.   

FFS you're in a mood, what happened to piss you off?
Did your missus shut her legs and make you stuff the turkey instead?

[Xtro]

FFS you're in a mood, what happened to piss you off?
Did your missus shut her legs and make you stuff the turkey instead?

   Yes indeed, and mash the brussels!

You obviously missed the punchline sb...... Cold turkey..... Boxing day.... Oh well.   

[Colston36]

What she could do is irrelevant. As a punter you advising her to increase her prices was a rather stupid thing to do.

What I choose to do is nobody's business but my own.

[GingerNuts]

What I choose to do is nobody's business but my own.

That ship sailed when you posted about it here.

[Colston36]

That ship sailed when you posted about it here.

Kindly go and annoy someone else.

[GingerNuts]

Kindly go and annoy someone else.

Apologies if you find it annoying but if you want to keep your business to yourself don't post about it on a forum.

[daviemac]

What I choose to do is nobody's business but my own.

Posting that you tell escorts to raise their prices on a forum that is solely for the benefit of punters is bound to get a negative response. It is totally against the ethos of the site.

[webpunter]

Very well observed
Morse would be proud 

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[munterhunter]

Doc Holliday is a bona fide doctor, and he's worth listening to.

One or two other 'pretenders', but they normally get caught out.

Oh, and of course we mustn't forget the Google Kings, people who know shit, look on the internet, repeat it parrot-fashion as if they knew it all along, whereas infact they've completely misinterpreted it, yet presented it as fact. There's loads of them  .

(That's not me by the way  )

I don't know id Doc Holiday is a bona fidae doctor or not. If he is I don't know what (if any) his specialism is. If I have any concerns about my sexual health I discuss them at the GU clinic where the staff have the relevent expertise and are best equipped to answer your questions.
The sensible thing to do is to consult a doctor or medical professional with relevant knowledge. Access to GUM clinics is free (no need to go through your GP and wait for an appointment or referral). It's usually fairly quick to access and it's CONFIDENTIAL!
The answer to the OP's question is a no brainer..go to your GUM clinic!

[freeze44]

Posting that you tell escorts to raise their prices on a forum that is solely for the benefit of punters is bound to get a negative response. It is totally against the ethos of the site.

Exactly! Hope the old boy just had one to many Christmas sherrys! 

[winkywanky]

I don't know id Doc Holiday is a bona fidae doctor or not. If he is I don't know what (if any) his specialism is. If I have any concerns about my sexual health I discuss them at the GU clinic where the staff have the relevent expertise and are best equipped to answer your questions.
The sensible thing to do is to consult a doctor or medical professional with relevant knowledge. Access to GUM clinics is free (no need to go through your GP and wait for an appointment or referral). It's usually fairly quick to access and it's CONFIDENTIAL!
The answer to the OP's question is a no brainer..go to your GUM clinic!

The OP's question was a general question about PrEP. There is a lot of general, common knowledge around about this, so talking about it on an open forum is fine.

Of course, if anyone has specific symptoms or real concerns about their health, sexual or otherwise, then they should go see a professional in person, someone who knows what they're talking about and has access to their medical records.

I don't think anyone has suggested otherwise?

[freeze44]

The OP's question was a general question about PrEP. There is a lot of general, common knowledge around about this, so talking about it on an open forum is fine.

Of course, if anyone has specific symptoms or real concerns about their health, sexual or otherwise, then they should go see a professional in person, someone who knows what they're talking about and has access to their medical records.

I don't think anyone has suggested otherwise?

Yes WW although the idea that some posters are more qualified to answer than others is the issue.

If someone want's to believe that someone has certain skills and knowledge like being a doctor, then PM is a better way in my view for many reasons.

Certainly a Christmas cracker of a thread! 

[Xtro]

Of course, if anyone has specific symptoms or real concerns about their health, sexual or otherwise, then they should go see a professional in person, someone who knows what they're talking about and has access to their medical records.

+1   

[winkywanky]

Yes WW although the idea that some posters are more qualified to answer than others is the issue.

If someone want's to believe that someone has certain skills and knowledge like being a doctor, then PM is a better way in my view for many reasons.

Certainly a Christmas cracker of a thread! 

In general terms, I normally find it quite easy to judge who I think is talking bollocks about health issues, and it's for others to do the same for themselves.

[munterhunter]

Yes WW although the idea that some posters are more qualified to answer than others is the issue.

If someone want's to believe that someone has certain skills and knowledge like being a doctor, then PM is a better way in my view for many reasons.

Certainly a Christmas cracker of a thread! 

No I think the best approach is to speak in person to a medical professional even about a general question.
Even then I know from personal experience they can sometimes make mistakes.
As a diabetic for a number of years I had to go on to insulin as well as oral medication. I saw a diabetic specialist nurse who explained how to inject a small dose twice daily. I found I was having hypoglycemic episodes following the injections when I consulted my GP she said "are you mixing the solution before injecting?"
I hadn't been advised about that by the specialist nurse and that was causing the hypos. The solution is made up of 30%fast acting and 70% long acting insulin if you don't mix it you can take more fast acting insulin which leads to hypos. Luckily I was only taking a small dose!
12 months later I had a heart attack it came out of the blue I have no family history of heart problems my only risk factor was diabetes. On admission to hospital the Cardiac consultant said " I'm stopping your Canagliflozin (oral drug to treat diabetes) he didn't specify why. A GP friend visited me in hospital and was shocked O'd been on Canagliflozin and insulin as the combination (she said) could cause complications. The same diabetic nurse who recommended insulin didn't take me off Canagliflozin!
In each case it took a Doctor rather than a nurse practitioner to spot the problem and resolve it!
To give proper advice you need to be a qualified and experienced professional with access to medical history and records. The OP said a photographer friend told him about prep and asked for advice from forum members who'd tried it. Seems pretty innocuous..however someone knowing his history and medications he uses should be able to provide better advice than us even if some of us do happen to be medically qualified.
But as has been pointed out the question prompted an "interesting" thread.