What would you do

[slippyin]

I am on a few hook up and dating sites like Fab, POF, Seeking etc for ONS or FWB meets  which i am quite blatant about  on my profiles. Occasionally while browsing i come across local WG profiles (usually under their real name strangely). Normally have a bit of a nose at their profile and then move on.

However recently an SP who has been on my HL for a while reached out with a match request and i accepted. Normally wouldn't have done but the girl in question ticks all my boxes, is filthy as fuck (Has some amateur vids on a few porn sites) so guess i was curious. We have exchanged a few messages, mainly vanilla but she has sent a couple of pics unsolicited, and its all a bit of safe online fun. Now with Lockdown ending she has asked for a social meet and possibly more but i'm not sure whether do it.

She is unaware that i know about her AW and vids etc and i've never tried to book/seen her or her duo partners. There has been no mention of PPM and the whole thing has been quite civvy like.

As with all of the other contacts that i arrange meets like this with i have been honest about the fact that i'm not looking for a LTR just a physical thing which she seems ok with as she is quite kinky, but i'm 50/50 about actually meeting her.

So what would you do?

 

[ValleyMan73]

Meet her.

You're clearly looking for some fun and so is she by the look of it.

What do you have to lose?

[stevedave]

Go for it. WG's are allowed a personal sex life too, presumably she is just looking for some off the clock fun.

[slippyin]

Thanks for the responses and you are right.

I think the thing that's bothering me is that we've met through a "dating" site and despite the fact that I've open about my expectations and she seems ok with this I can't shake the nagging feeling that due to fact that "works" she maybe is looking for more than just fun and I dont want to get involved with that.

I hope that make sense. 

[Fuggedaboutit]

Thanks for the responses and you are right.

I think the thing that's bothering me is that we've met through a "dating" site and despite the fact that I've open about my expectations and she seems ok with this I can't shake the nagging feeling that due to fact that "works" she maybe is looking for more than just fun and I dont want to get involved with that.

I hope that make sense.

Strangely enough, a WG local to me (never visited) appeared on both Tinder and POF. Quite unsure of how I'd handle it if there were a mutual match. Makes the "getting to know you" bit a tad awkward..."so, what do you do?"...

[slippyin]

Strangely enough, a WG local to me (never visited) appeared on both Tinder and POF. Quite unsure of how I'd handle it if there were a mutual match. Makes the "getting to know you" bit a tad awkward..."so, what do you do?"...

  Have avoided asking that though her civvy job was on her profile so didn't have to.

[tynetunnel]

I’d go for it, as long as you are clear it’s no-strings fun and nothing more. What’s not to like? 

[Rick2468]

I have seen a few WGs on dating sites with genuine profiles looking for dating. Profiles seem genuine as they have their real name and photos of them with family and friends etc. I message them in most cases and had some chats with them.

One lady is a BBW based in Harlow and has mixed reviews on here. She actually messaged me first and we chatted and I felt we had some chemistry. Her occupation was listed as "Customer Services" (quite amusing on her part!) and during the chat she said she had been quite bad in the past. I suspect she was referring to escorting but I played dumb and said "Have you been in jail or something?" but she never actually said she escorted so I continued to play dumb. We swapped numbers and she gave me the same number as she had listed on adultwork. I called her and she stopped messaging me after that so I assume I didn't give a good impression on the telephone.

The second one is a British escort in Enfield. Been discussed a bit on here and people have commented she doesn't look attractive but I actually think she looks quite nice. Her occupation was listed as "fashion student". We exchanged some messages and I asked her if she wanted to go for a drink and she said she wasn't looking to date at the current time. I thought WTF are you doing on a dating site then and stopped messaging her.

I saw Rebecca More on a dating site once. Profile seemed genuine. She gets mixed reception on here but I think she's pretty filthy in her porn. I messaged her and she viewed my profile. When a woman views your profile they usually respond fairly soon afterwards so I was refreshing my browser every few seconds praying for the "Unread messages (0)" to change to "Unread messages (1)" but alas it never happened. Think I messaged again a week later in a vein attempt to get talking but it never happened.

I shared messages with Madame Masters (retired Dominatrix) on there and spoke to her on the phone. She came clean about her occupation on the phone and I was like "oh what is one of those?" haha. I struggled to work her out, she seemed kind of unsure of what she was looking for in life in general and the conversation faded out.

She isn't an escort but I saw Rachel Aldana on a dating site, she is a model with absolutely huge knockers. She never replied to my message though.

Also seen a few other escorts on the sites but only mentioned above the ones I actually spoke to.

[shagmore]

Go for it, they are Wg's for the cash, they do have a life outside work, and potentially want to meet up with someone and have a fuck with someone they like/fancy tother than just for money. If you know about her and she ticks your box's then what have you got to loose. I sure as hell would

[Stevelondon]

Nothing to lose. As others have said. Go for it.

[CheeseBoard]

Whats the harm? Go for it.  The added bonus is that you know her 'likes' list of what she will or will not do.  Knowing if she does or doesn't do anal (while working) makes talking about stuff you'd like to do easier 

[GorillaWarfare]

Go for it. Worst that'll happen is she's ask for more than just fun and you can say no if you don't want to enter a committed relationship.

Best case scenario is that you basically get free shags. You're playing with house money at the moment, go for it.

[LLPunting]

Of course if said SP keeps an eye on this forum then you've just outed yourself, perhaps not just as a faceless punter.   

[BJrimmer]

I wouldn’t think twice. I’d be on it straight away.

What will you do though if she’s ok with shagging you bareback, knowing that she escorts? Will you go bare or bag up?

[winkywanky]

I am on a few hook up and dating sites like Fab, POF, Seeking etc for ONS or FWB meets  which i am quite blatant about  on my profiles. Occasionally while browsing i come across local WG profiles (usually under their real name strangely). Normally have a bit of a nose at their profile and then move on.

However recently an SP who has been on my HL for a while reached out with a match request and i accepted. Normally wouldn't have done but the girl in question ticks all my boxes, is filthy as fuck (Has some amateur vids on a few porn sites) so guess i was curious. We have exchanged a few messages, mainly vanilla but she has sent a couple of pics unsolicited, and its all a bit of safe online fun. Now with Lockdown ending she has asked for a social meet and possibly more but i'm not sure whether do it.

She is unaware that i know about her AW and vids etc and i've never tried to book/seen her or her duo partners. There has been no mention of PPM and the whole thing has been quite civvy like.

As with all of the other contacts that i arrange meets like this with i have been honest about the fact that i'm not looking for a LTR just a physical thing which she seems ok with as she is quite kinky, but i'm 50/50 about actually meeting her.

So what would you do?

I would go for it, but keep your eyes wide open and your wits about you. She is probably ultimately looking for a relationship (whether she admits it to herself or not). You may of course fall willingly into that 'trap', but you won't know until that moment arises.

At some point (probably quite early on) you will have that discussion where her WG status will emerge, and simultaneously your punter status...a) because it's the right thing to do if she has been open with you, and b) even if you lie, she'll quickly suss you. Of course you are in a way on an equal footing then, no reason for suspicion or resentment on either side. In that sense you're a good match for each other.

I have been in a similar(ish) situation, although I didn't know she'd been an on-off WG some years previously. We started dating and within a couple of meets she willingly told me about her history, and I felt dutybound to reciprocate about my punting while outside relationships. We even joked that perhaps I might have punted with her a couple of decades previously, but I'm 99% sure I hadn't.

It mattered not a jot to me, but of course for you, you have the added complication of whether she's going to continue being a WG, and are you happy with that. And if she doesn't, well she's going to find other means to make up for the lost income, ie a 'normal' job.

I'm getting ahead of myself here, you're only after casual fun, but be aware of how things may play out, should things develop.

[tynetunnel]

At some point (probably quite early on) you will have that discussion where her WG status will emerge, and simultaneously your punter status...a) because it's the right thing to do if she has been open with you, and b) even if you lie, she'll quickly suss you. Of course you are in a way on an equal footing then, no reason for suspicion or resentment on either side. In that sense you're a good match for each other.

You should also consider what she may have to say if she knows or thinks she knows that you already knew she was a WG prior to meeting up. Which you do. If she joins up the dots, she might be quite pissy if she thinks you knew about her job but didn’t let on...
 

[LLPunting]

I would go for it, but keep your eyes wide open and your wits about you. She is probably ultimately looking for a relationship (whether she admits it to herself or not). You may of course fall willingly into that 'trap', but you won't know until that moment arises.

At some point (probably quite early on) you will have that discussion where her WG status will emerge, and simultaneously your punter status...a) because it's the right thing to do if she has been open with you, and b) even if you lie, she'll quickly suss you. Of course you are in a way on an equal footing then, no reason for suspicion or resentment on either side. In that sense you're a good match for each other.

I have been in a similar(ish) situation, although I didn't know she'd been an on-off WG some years previously. We started dating and within a couple of meets she willingly told me about her history, and I felt dutybound to reciprocate about my punting while outside relationships. We even joked that perhaps I might have punted with her a couple of decades previously, but I'm 99% sure I hadn't.

It mattered not a jot to me, but of course for you, you have the added complication of whether she's going to continue being a WG, and are you happy with that. And if she doesn't, well she's going to find other means to make up for the lost income, ie a 'normal' job.

I'm getting ahead of myself here, you're only after casual fun, but be aware of how things may play out, should things develop.

You are a big, soft romantic!  All lace cuffs and puffed out pantaloons! 

She could of course be relationship scamming so the test will be what is the expectation around paying for (pricey) things, let alone "borrowing" money.

The power dynamic will also be influenced about how open each is with their nearest and dearest about their involvement with sex work.  She may be fully supported whilst punter may be totally isolated by secrecy.

Not really on an equal footing at all.  SP has sex for money to meet her financial wants and needs.  Punter has paid sex because he wants sex with a variety of women without the effort of dating, the emotional ties or relationship consequences.

[winkywanky]

You should also consider what she may have to say if she knows or thinks she knows that you already knew she was a WG prior to meeting up. Which you do. If she joins up the dots, she might be quite pissy if she thinks you knew about her job but didn’t let on...

True. her first reaction might be: he's after a freebie.

I think seeing as she is the WG and advertising it as such, it might be incumbent on her to put her cards on the table first.

But then you should respond with your own little 'bombshell'  .

[BJrimmer]

You should also consider what she may have to say if she knows or thinks she knows that you already knew she was a WG prior to meeting up. Which you do. If she joins up the dots, she might be quite pissy if she thinks you knew about her job but didn’t let on...

Nah. I wouldn’t be thinking stuff like that. He’s already stated he’s only wanting no-strings fun. I’d only be thinking about getting my end away. You’re over-thinking it!

[winkywanky]

You are a big, soft romantic!  All lace cuffs and puffed out pantaloons! 

She could of course be relationship scamming so the test will be what is the expectation around paying for (pricey) things, let alone "borrowing" money.

Not really on an equal footing at all.  SP has sex for money to meet her financial wants and needs.  Punter has paid sex because he wants sex with a variety of women without the effort of dating, the emotional ties or relationship consequences.

Yes, in my mind they are as good as married off already  .

I shall be expecting an invite to the wedding, socially distanced of course  .

When I said equal footing, I meant emotionally/'morally'. In the same way that I see WG and punter in the work situation. One makes money, the other one pays it, but nevertheless they are merely two equal sides of the same coin. That's why I get pissed off when I hear guys mistreating WGs because they're only prossies, worthy of derision, and that they are somehow inferior. They are not, a punt is a meeting of two people, each satisfying their own needs, it is an equal relationship.

[LLPunting]

Nah. I wouldn’t be thinking stuff like that. He’s already stated he’s only wanting no-strings fun. I’d only be thinking about getting my end away. You’re over-thinking it!

Not so clear cut.  He was bragging about being a swordsman and it being clear on his profile BUT he's considering a meet up with a woman who appears to be making social advances i.e. not casual hookup because that could've happened during lockdown.
As blasse as he may like to believe he is, posing the question acknowledges that something else wouldn't be out of the question.
And there's always the consideration about EAS, most punters expect to be just as callous as OP about punts but some girls just surprise us with how they can fuck their way under our skin.

You may be safe if you're pathological otherwise you just haven't punted enough to meet a "darling".

[LLPunting]

Yes, in my mind they are as good as married off already  .

I shall be expecting an invite to the wedding, socially distanced of course  .

When I said equal footing, I meant emotionally/'morally'. In the same way that I see WG and punter in the work situation. One makes money, the other one pays it, but nevertheless they are merely two equal sides of the same coin. That's why I get pissed off when I hear guys mistreating WGs because they're only prossies, worthy of derision, and that they are somehow inferior. They are not, a punt is a meeting of two people, each satisfying their own needs, it is an equal relationship.

As long as you stay more than a foot from the bride at all times he'll be happy.

I should clarify categorically "women who have sex for money" are not contemptible for that.  My point was that whilst she could be expected to be human and want a "real" relationship at the cost of her job he would be expected to commit to a relationship despite his contra-indicated nature; to whit what's to stop him from continuing to (secretly) fuck about or for her to believe him?

Saying you use prostitutes whilst outside of relationships to satisfy a need for sex and intimacy is a possible indication of one thing, boasting about wanting NSA is certainly about another.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

FFS just get on with it, and review, for us all wontcha:)..

We seek enlightenment:!..

[slippyin]

Of course if said SP keeps an eye on this forum then you've just outed yourself, perhaps not just as a faceless punter.   

You are correct, however i hope i have kept the post as vague as possible. There are plenty of SP's out there on dating apps and i'm sure that i'm probably not the only guy she is hatting with so no too worried about this.

She has been mentioned on here a few times but never reviewed so guessing doesn't really keep an eye on the forum.

[slippyin]

I wouldn’t think twice. I’d be on it straight away.

What will you do though if she’s ok with shagging you bareback, knowing that she escorts? Will you go bare or bag up?

Hadn't really though about this as i play safe with all of my short term meets punting or otherwise. If it developed into a more long term FWB scenario then not sure.

[slippyin]

I would go for it, but keep your eyes wide open and your wits about you. She is probably ultimately looking for a relationship (whether she admits it to herself or not). You may of course fall willingly into that 'trap', but you won't know until that moment arises.

At some point (probably quite early on) you will have that discussion where her WG status will emerge, and simultaneously your punter status...a) because it's the right thing to do if she has been open with you, and b) even if you lie, she'll quickly suss you. Of course you are in a way on an equal footing then, no reason for suspicion or resentment on either side. In that sense you're a good match for each other.

I have been in a similar(ish) situation, although I didn't know she'd been an on-off WG some years previously. We started dating and within a couple of meets she willingly told me about her history, and I felt dutybound to reciprocate about my punting while outside relationships. We even joked that perhaps I might have punted with her a couple of decades previously, but I'm 99% sure I hadn't.

It mattered not a jot to me, but of course for you, you have the added complication of whether she's going to continue being a WG, and are you happy with that. And if she doesn't, well she's going to find other means to make up for the lost income, ie a 'normal' job.

I'm getting ahead of myself here, you're only after casual fun, but be aware of how things may play out, should things develop.

I think that the fact that i know more about a facet of her life which is obviously hidden is one of the things that has been bothering me. Kind of like an unfair advantage, and if we did get on and once we have the discussion would coming clean on my part if we did get on jeopardise the situation.

[slippyin]

Yes, in my mind they are as good as married off already  .

I shall be expecting an invite to the wedding, socially distanced of course  .

When I said equal footing, I meant emotionally/'morally'. In the same way that I see WG and punter in the work situation. One makes money, the other one pays it, but nevertheless they are merely two equal sides of the same coin. That's why I get pissed off when I hear guys mistreating WGs because they're only prossies, worthy of derision, and that they are somehow inferior. They are not, a punt is a meeting of two people, each satisfying their own needs, it is an equal relationship.

If there is a wedding, i'd expect you to be best man 

[slippyin]

Not so clear cut.  He was bragging about being a swordsman and it being clear on his profile BUT he's considering a meet up with a woman who appears to be making social advances i.e. not casual hookup because that could've happened during lockdown.
As blasse as he may like to believe he is, posing the question acknowledges that something else wouldn't be out of the question.
And there's always the consideration about EAS, most punters expect to be just as callous as OP about punts but some girls just surprise us with how they can fuck their way under our skin.

You may be safe if you're pathological otherwise you just haven't punted enough to meet a "darling".

Didn't mean for anything in my OP to come across as "bragging" just that when using non punting sites its easier to open about my expectations. There are plenty of civvy ladies out there who have needs, fantasies etc who like to play but being honest about what you want winnows out the wasters and so on.

I have unfortunately/fortunately been through a bout of EAS with a regular (who luckily didn't take advantage) so guess that's why I'm a little more wary in this situation.

[slippyin]

FFS just get on with it, and review, for us all wontcha:)..

We seek enlightenment:!..

Thanks for all the posts, most helpful.

We have arranged a social meet later in the week (What's the worst that could happen  ) and depending on how it goes might give a vague update.

[Carl Adams]

I have seen a few WGs from AW on Tinder and most of them eventually drop in something that shows what they want but there is no harm in trying and seeing where you get too.

Depends on why they are on AW - a hell of a lot of women do not want to be there as a career choice so they are doing it for the money or advantages they perceive that they can achieve.

So meet but try and keep real?

[JimmySW]

What's the worst that could happen  ) and depending on how it goes might give a vague update.

Looking forward to hearing how that goes!   

[pegman8]

I know you have made it clear already, but just stress again that you only want your hard cock softening.

[winkywanky]

I think that the fact that i know more about a facet of her life which is obviously hidden is one of the things that has been bothering me. Kind of like an unfair advantage, and if we did get on and once we have the discussion would coming clean on my part if we did get on jeopardise the situation.

If (when) it came out between the two of you that she was a WG, if you then told her you were a punter and she didn't like it, that would make her a total, delusional hypocrite and you should immediately ditch her.

I do think in general, that in a situation where two people are in the early stages of a fledgling relationship and it came out that the two of you were WG and punter, the WG would probably be less judgmental about it than the guy. Society still sees a WG as having a damaged reputation, far more than a guy who's a punter. And in terms of numbers, far more guys are punters than women are WGs. In this way the dice are far more loaded against women than men within the field of prostitution. Infact a WG might even prefer a punter as a bf, if her new beau was clean as driven snow, she'd always feel like he could hold that over her. The difference in your case, is that you already have the advanced knowledge that she is a WG. However, depending on how long she's been on dating sites, she would certainly be aware that guys she meets of dating sites will already be aware that she's a WG.

I think basically, just go into it with your eyes open, and be honest all along the way, so long as you feel she's being honest.

One other thing to consider, should things develop between you but subsequently go wrong in an acrimonious way, she might decide to out you to your friends/family out of spite. But that's not because she's a WG, that would be a measure of her as a person.

[slippyin]

Social meet happened and it was a nice enough civvy date. We got on well and no warning bells so far. Turns out she's poly and happy with FWB and if it turns into something more or not then that's ok.

Have already arranged our next date. So far so good.

[newcastle]

good to hear!

i matched with a girl on an app a few years ago and we talked for a while but we never managed to take it much further and it fizzled out.  Always regretted not being able to fuck her.

Fast forward to about a year ago I saw her on AW and booked her, didn;t let on who I was on the first meet but did in the 2nd - she said she'd remembered too and she was cool about it.   We laughed it off and i see her sometimes.  Worked out much better.  We're not a great fit for a relationship but enjoy each other's company a bit - I get the sex I want without the hassle of having to spend hours dating/chatting etc, and she has a client she likes/trusts/gets on with.

[JontyR]

 Kind of like an unfair advantage,

I'm guessing you may have struggled over explaining yourself here - It's only an "advantage" if you intend to use it as such. I'm sure you didn't mean it this way but it suggests an unhealthy power dynamic.

I'd say go for it, but why not keep being as honest as in your posting on the site to start with? If she's happy with you punting, and you are happy her being a SP,  then there is the potential for much mutual fun and frolics. But only if you are that honest up front.

Else it will come out at some point and she will feel like she has been lied to and taken advantage of then it probably won't end well. Only you know how you would react to that. 

if you just want to fuck her and then tick it off, then it's no different to any other civvie in that situation.