Can you really tell when the girl has cum?

[Hobbit]

A female orgasm is a myth. I'm yet to witness a real one. 

[Bush]

Considering you are paying money, surely your orgasm as the customer takes priority above everything no?

I get a lot of satisfaction in satisfying the service provider, I don’t think the one precludes the other....it’s all a part of the experience. Some guys are a quick ‘wham bam thank you mam’ other want a more involved sexual encounter.

I guess does it matter if it’s a fake or not....if you think it’s genuine then it’s genuine.

[usroads]

The one thing that is hard to fake are the spasms and contractions that will occur with some girls when they have a strong orgasm

Yes that's true and also the flushed neck  which can't be faked

[daviemac]

Considering you are paying money, surely your orgasm as the customer takes priority above everything no?

There's an escort on another forum who had a booking and the whole point for the punter was for her to cum.  It takes all sorts as they say.

[expeller]

I swear by the Bramley Featherstone cum monitor. Sensors are placed in the vagina and anus with further sensors attached to the head via a neat rubber cap. Measurement is on an illuminated dial with the option of various recorded exclamations of satisfaction. My favourite is Mrs Thatcher shouting "The Lady is not for turning!"

[smiths]

WTF does it matter if a WG cums or not

I still don’t get why some punters appear to be so obsessed with this during the punt and comment on it in their reviews “oh I don’t she OG” so what! 

So long as you leave happy for the service you are paying for that’s it. If she has fun too it’s a bonus.

Have I missed something?

The why as I know from the sex party circuit is its a big pride thing for some punters, for some others its ALL they are interested in when punting. Completely obsessed as though its some kind of great achievement. Yeah a WG cumming, what an achievement that is in life. But as ever each to their own.

[smiths]

I can with my wife, wouldn’t have a clue with anyone else.

Yep, not married but this has been the case with partners, I knew what made them tick sexually. I don't know what makes any WG tick enough to know them inside out as I know I would have to like I do a partner.

With this subject some punters simply have to believe they do make WGs cum and know the signs and can tell, pride. Yeah, sure, whatever you say, delusion may make their cocks hard so good for them. I imagine on occasion some WGs do cum at punts though, not at mine.

[smiths]

There's an escort on another forum who had a booking and the whole point for the punter was for her to cum.  It takes all sorts as they say.

This has happened quite a bit at some sex parties I have been at. Punters who only do RO on the WGs, that's their 1 interest at the party and unless moved on would be doing it the whole time. 1 thing they have that I don't is a tongue that doesn't start aching pretty quickly.

[daviemac]

This has happened quite a bit at some sex parties I have been at. Punters who only do RO on the WGs, that's their 1 interest at the party and unless moved on would be doing it the whole time. 1 thing they have that I don't is a tongue that doesn't start aching pretty quickly.

Maybe they can breathe through their ears.    

[notcalledchris]

I can with my wife, wouldn’t have a clue with anyone else.

Same for me.  Your wife loves it when I make her come.

[David1970]

I am paying for me to cum not her, don’t give a toss if she enjoys herself only care if I do.
Why would you care if she has cum, unless you have some kind of ego problem you.

[OakTree]

The bare fact of the matter is if a WG fakes or actually has a real orgasm while I'm fucking or doing whatever to her, at that moment I'm not going to analyse if it's genuine or not. To be honest I couldn't care less. If it is real, great. If she can act well and I think it's real, great, I'm playing along with the fantasy and that's all I'm going for.

[GreyDave]

This has happened quite a bit at some sex parties I have been at. Punters who only do RO on the WGs, that's their 1 interest at the party and unless moved on would be doing it the whole time. 1 thing they have that I don't is a tongue that doesn't start aching pretty quickly.

  Smiths those last 3 posts of yours spot on sir ...

Ive been at parties and some of the guys doing the reverse O take flipping ages its not a great spectator sport either at a parties with Emma Butt years ago I tried the O and pumping her in Mish she eneded up rubbing herself like furyin front of 4 or 5 of us saying tongues wouldnt make her cum to delicate ....I rekon the Red flush on upper chest with slight breathlesnes and tensing and then relax is maybe the best sign if your not actively looking ... Ive been lucky and had a few cum last one was a surprise as she just tensed up a little like a shiver and said urgh  oh! the punt went even better after... a vibrarter helped me  then  Rue Bourbon in Northampton a big fuller figured shagger I waspumping in side spoons and she used one of those Hiachi wand clones to bring herself off violently My God it was good to see and be in as it happenend. So not sur if the O really does the trick as the few that Ive genuinely know have all have ended up rubbing like mad or pressing a vibrater on that clit never have I got a wg or civie by O to cum ....I feel good if i think they have but know they are in control dont kid yourself with the yeah baby girls  

[bnhdgsn]

I figure that if she farts, she has probably come.

[Doc Holliday]

As always this topic goes off a a tangent. 

The question was "Can you tell when the girl has cum?" and not whether it actually matters.

Speaking personally I would say I can tell most of the time, but clearly I am in a minority.

As to the 'tangent' discussion, then of course the punter's enjoyment is of primary importance, but you have to accept that, for some, that is only fully achieved if the wg also orgasms (or appears to)

Telling someone that it doesn't matter, where it does indeed matter to them is a pointless exercise.

[Doc Holliday]

Same for me.  Your wife loves it when I make her come.

 

[Thephoenix]

Of course I can tell!

Once I ram my huge member up their whatsit, they have an organism every time.

PS... what's a clirotis?

It's weird, but I seem to be able to make lots of Thai massage girls have organisms.

It's always when they've been bashing away for about half an hour on my oiled up cock, changing hands and with chronic wanker's elbow, checking the clock and worrying they'll miss their last bus home.

All it takes is a little grunt from me, and I can tell they must be having a super organism as their hand action becomes frantic, they're red in the face and exhausted , and in a desperate voice they exclaim 'OhYes!....Come on..give it to me big boy!...Give me all that cum!'

They can't fool me!

[Billy no mates]

Same for me.  Your wife loves it when I make her come.

 

Now that would be a challenge, it took her ten years to tell me exactly what her trigger points were, have to admit, I’d pay to watch someone try.

[Payyourwaymate]

I get a lot of satisfaction in satisfying the service provider, I don’t think the one precludes the other....it’s all a part of the experience. Some guys are a quick ‘wham bam thank you mam’ other want a more involved sexual encounter.

I guess does it matter if it’s a fake or not....if you think it’s genuine then it’s genuine.

I see, that's quite a challenge... like making a chronically grumpy person smile. I'm a wham bam guy, no time for long semantics and "making love". Fair enough, we all have different wants.

[Payyourwaymate]

There's an escort on another forum who had a booking and the whole point for the punter was for her to cum.  It takes all sorts as they say.

Wow, what on earth...Well,I don't know what to say, must have been a good day at work for that WG if he succeeded.

[Bush]

A female orgasm is a myth. I'm yet to witness a real one. 

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[Doc Holliday]

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[daviemac]

Wow, what on earth...Well,I don't know what to say, must have been a good day at work for that WG if he succeeded.

It wasn't, it put too much pressure on her and when she did manage (she didn't describe how but I suspect it took a lot of her input) he turned round and said it would've been nice if it wasn't fake. She's blacklisted him now.

[CroPunter]

The one thing that is hard to fake are the spasms and contractions that will occur with some girls when they have a strong orgasm

+1, also their clits being super sensitive. Plus it happened to me more than once that girls are not looking into their watches so 2-3 hours sessions ends up with 4-5 hours without extra charge. Or overnight booking turned into a full weekend of rabbit sex

[Trotter671]

I would agree the flushed chest and neck and the vaginal contractions are a sure sign but I had an Asian lady who I had the pleasure of experiencing several times who uncontrollably had a legs shaking episode which afterwards she was physically exhausted and she passed the remark that she was exhausted after it.

Yep pal, I've been lucky enough to witness a few times with WGs over the years who let themselves go and enjoy

[Payyourwaymate]

It wasn't, it put too much pressure on her and when she did manage (she didn't describe how but I suspect it took a lot of her input) he turned round and said it would've been nice if it wasn't fake. She's blacklisted him now.

 

[Kelvin Smyth]

This is my first ever comment on this forum, so members might think what I'm about to say is total bullshit, but it's not.

I love going down on WGs and I think I've managed to make quite a few cum over the years.

I'm also into roleplay and years ago I had a particular session with a WG (can't remember her name) and I'm confident that she came 4 times in an hour !   

[Watts.E.Dunn]

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Ah! so thats you and the Missus then Doc;?...

[NightKid]

Side note, does squirting also count as cumming? Because if it does then that surely has to be the front runner for most unfakeable sign.

[Bonker]

I've caused and noticed more pleasure in a WG in the first minute than in the following 59.
That's when I pay her. To date, one has yet to orgasm but maybe they do when they're out of the room stashing the cash. I fancy I've heard 'yes, yes oh god yes'.

[Home Alone]

I've caused and noticed more pleasure in a WG in the first minute than in the following 59.
That's when I pay her. To date, one has yet to orgasm but maybe they do when they're out of the room stashing the cash. I fancy I've heard 'yes, yes oh god yes'.

[Niggledebits]

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Great videos Doc, I have certainly been able to get sugar babes to climax especially with the use of a doxy. Also acheived the same with Thai girls at rub and tugs massage places. From my time with escorts some said I brought them to a climax with reverse oral but they certainly didn't react like the girls in the video so probably not.

[Doc Holliday]

Ah! so thats you and the Missus then Doc;?...

  No I'm not putting up the links to those 

[GreyDave]

This is my first ever comment on this forum, so members might think what I'm about to say is total bullshit, but it's not.

I love going down on WGs and I think I've managed to make quite a few cum over the years.

I'm also into roleplay and years ago I had a particular session with a WG (can't remember her name) and I'm confident that she came 4 times in an hour !

Maybe so but have to say the 40 years of punting clits do need hard rubbing to bring off  Ive yet to be able to rub as hard with my tongue as my thumb
Even Camel Toe Anglica in Hemel with one of the largest clits in Christendom has rubbed hers hard when Ive performed O on her hoping to finish her The WG`s Ive been lucky enough to converse with on this subject say the Thumb polish is the next best thing to a Hiatchi wand which many have its more powerful and deeper vibration work better than bright coloured Rabbits.

[Doc Holliday]

From my time with escorts some said I brought them to a climax with reverse oral but they certainly didn't react like the girls in the video so probably not.

There is huge variation though, albeit with one or more common features ... most notably breathing pattern.
Some are very noisy, some are totally silent. Often it may sound as if they are in extreme pain rather than pleasure. Some may thrash around, some may just have one small twitch and fall asleep! Some may flush some may not and so on .... but with experience you can learn to tell distinguish what is real and what is fake.

[Doc Holliday]

Side note, does squirting also count as cumming? Because if it does then that surely has to be the front runner for most unfakeable sign.

In the paid sex world that is one of the most faked (ie pee) In the real world genuine squirting may or may not coincide with an orgasm depending on the individual.

[NightKid]

In the paid sex world that is one of the most faked (ie pee) In the real world genuine squirting may or may not coincide with an orgasm depending on the individual.

Don't they say the difference between the 2 is distinguishable though doc? The fluids, that is.

[Doc Holliday]

Don't they say the difference between the 2 is distinguishable though doc? The fluids, that is.

The whole subject of squirting is somewhat controversial and the answer to 'distinguishing' is pretty complex and would go way of at a tangent. Once again though it involves an element of experience.

[LilithNoir]

I’d say, stop obsessing over it.

And if you really have to know - we usually cum right at the start when getting paid. 

[daviemac]

The whole subject of squirting is somewhat controversial and the answer to 'distinguishing' is pretty complex and would go way of at a tangent. Once again though it involves an element of experience.

When I saw one escort for the first time who was known to squirt, we were finishing the session with mutual masturbation and as I started to cum she started to squirt, I could feel the vaginal contractions on my fingers. She commented that it was quite novel for us both to cum at the same time on a first meet. She had squirted earlier in the session as well so if it was all piss she must've drank quite a bit of water before hand. 

[MME]

I’d say, stop obsessing over it.

And if you really have to know - we usually cum right at the start when getting paid. 

+1   

It's a business transaction in my mind, SP gets to use their 'assets' to receive financial reward, punter gets to do anything agreed between the two parties. In my own opinion, I'm paying to have my balls drained by a sexy lady (or ladies) so can't see the need to make them cum too.

As for being able to tell? I've punted a lot over the years and have only personally witnessed a couple of SP orgasms, a lot more in my personal life with civvies (I reckon about half of them faked).

The only way I've been able to tell is the flushing of face / shoulders, vaginal contractions and the occasional leg twitching. One ex GF would genuinely cum then call me a 'dirty filthy bastard' every time without fail - that was a turn on..

[Bush]

I’d say, stop obsessing over it.

And if you really have to know - we usually cum right at the start when getting paid. 

In fairness, I don’t think anyone is ‘obsessing’ over it.....as I said on an earlier post as long as the punter thinks she’s had an orgasm then she’s had an orgasm. Bit like when the ref says it’s a goal it’s a goal 🤪

[theejaculator]

loved giving my former regular an orgasm through oral and fingers inside on the g spot....her pussy would start pulsing out and creaming up then you get the words of encouragement to get her over the edge and if she truly lost control a fart..sometimes in the face if i was still down there  . Still it was worth it as made subsequent penetration easier

[LilithNoir]

In fairness, I don’t think anyone is ‘obsessing’ over it.....as I said on an earlier post as long as the punter thinks she’s had an orgasm then she’s had an orgasm. Bit like when the ref says it’s a goal it’s a goal 🤪

Okay, maybe the wrong word choice 

Don’t worry about, it’s of secondary importance, focus on your experience and rest assured the girl already gets what she wants out of the deal.

[JonnyJ]

Nope, I know a couple of WG well and they both say they fake it and almost every girl does as it makes the dude feel like its a job accomplished and she gets to lay there on your time recovering. They fuck for money and most, if they can get away with it, will do the least for the most and this is a way to slow things down. We all have egos and this is a way to pander to them.

[Bush]

Maybe so but have to say the 40 years of punting clits do need hard rubbing to bring off  Ive yet to be able to rub as hard with my tongue as my thumb
Even Camel Toe Anglica in Hemel with one of the largest clits in Christendom has rubbed hers hard when Ive performed O on her hoping to finish her The WG`s Ive been lucky enough to converse with on this subject say the Thumb polish is the next best thing to a Hiatchi wand which many have its more powerful and deeper vibration work better than bright coloured Rabbits.

Well, I must have it all wrong. in my experience most women that I’ve gone down on prefer the cunnilingus to be soft and sensual particularly at the start but even when nearing climax I’ve never felt the need to go ‘hard’. I guess we all have different techniques and the girls different requirements but ‘hard rubbing to be bring them off’ ??  I don’t agree

[Bush]

Okay, maybe the wrong word choice 

Don’t worry about, it’s of secondary importance, focus on your experience and rest assured the girl already gets what she wants out of the deal.

Obviously no need to answer but what proportion of your sessions include you having an orgasm (if any).  Personal question I know but asked purely for research purposes 

[LilithNoir]

Obviously no need to answer but what proportion of your sessions include you having an orgasm (if any).  Personal question I know but asked purely for research purposes 

Unfortunately there isn’t a tally chart for this, not even for purely research purposes. However, casual observation indicates a strong correlation between the number of notes exchanged and the likelihood of cumming. Limited empirical research is currently available in the field, certainly there is significant scope for further inquiry.

 

[Son of the Desert]

The bare fact of the matter is if a WG fakes or actually has a real orgasm while I'm fucking or doing whatever to her, at that moment I'm not going to analyse if it's genuine or not. To be honest I couldn't care less. If it is real, great. If she can act well and I think it's real, great, I'm playing along with the fantasy and that's all I'm going for.

I agree with this.  I enjoy playing with girls to try and excite them/make them cum but it's as part of taking my own pleasure.  I can't unusually tell if they're faking or not but I do know that licking a girl's pussy will have had some effect on her and if she's willing to go along with the experience either acting or genuinely, that's fine by me.  At least it indicates that to an extent she's enjoying herself even if the money is the prime motivator.

[HailWood]

I would suggest that with a regular civvie partner, I do try to satisfy her and can tell when she has orgasmed. There are multiple indicators, many of which have been mentioned previously, and women do differ in their responses both time to time and girl to girl.

With WG’s it is different and one who is good at simulation can convince me she has orgasmed. I believe from time to time and with some WGs who I’ve met multiple times we are able to get to a stage where she can orgasm with me. There is one lass that I’ve met more than a dozen times and she’s had one orgasm in that time. I believed her as she’s always been very straight about these things.

It’s a nice compliment when a WG does orgasm but what puts me off in a punt is over acting and obvious fakery. Almost as much as being told “time for you to cum bby’.