Clienteye and UKP

[Silva21]

Bizarre tweet....

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[mace-window]

Bizarre tweet....

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I find it always funny how a site that reviews sex services from females is considered trash but if a site that reviews/reports male punters was about, you won't see twitter sites like Clienteye bating an eye about it.

[Silva21]

I find it always funny how a site that reviews sex services from females is considered trash but if a site that reviews/reports male punters was about, you won't see twitter sites like Clienteye bating an eye about it.

I agree completely. It's almost like all escorts are above board and honorable. Never once tried to do a punter out of his money in any way.

Shit like this pisses me off. If the girl was providing a decent service then they should welcome reviews because it's activity promoting them.

[PatMacGroin]

I'm not a twitter user. What is this "client eye app"? is it a twitter user that claims to be some sort of hacker? Or some app trying to sell itself to wives that suspect their husbands by claiming it will magically reveal all their secrets? Or something else I just don't get? 

[Belgarion]

Client eye is an app SPs use to screen callers to identify if they are dangerous or time wasters.

As far as I'm aware, no reviewers leave their telephone numbers and they need access to UKPs database to do a search. So either the clienteye owner is being incredibly dishonest or they have tried to hack the site.

If they have, then it's a criminal offence.

[Billy no mates]

Client eye is an app SPs use to screen callers to identify if they are dangerous or time wasters.

As far as I'm aware, no reviewers leave their telephone numbers and they need access to UKPs database to do a search. So either the clienteye owner is being incredibly dishonest or they have tried to hack the site.

If they have, then it's a criminal offence.

True, but surely a SP, once she has seen a review of herself, and worked out who the client is/was, can link the username to a phone number.

Punting phones reminder to all.

[Belgarion]

True, but surely a SP, once she has seen a review of herself, and worked out who the client is/was, can link the username to a phone number.

Punting phones reminder to all.

Indeed, especially if the punter Booker through AW. Even easier to link and open to abuse

[Foxtail17]

A few things come to mind.

How are they going to be able to do this?

Why bother doing it? I thought CI was a reputable resource for escorts. If the escort reports a dodgy chap she presumably has his phone number and maybe his AW ID. Having his UKP name doesn’t seem to add anything.

Will this lead to dodgy escorts trying dirty tactics to expose punters who give a neg, and punters outing escorts in revenge?

And mistakes can be made. A few years ago I had an escort contact me about a neg she had received on here but I had never been to the town she lived in, let alone met her.

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[Belgarion]

A few things come to mind.

How are they going to be able to do this?

Why bother doing it? I thought CI was a reputable resource for escorts. If the escort reports a dodgy chap she presumably has his phone number and maybe his AW ID. Having his UKP name doesn’t seem to add anything.

Will this lead to dodgy escorts trying dirty tactics to expose punters who give a neg, and punters outing escorts in revenge?

And mistakes can be made. A few years ago I had an escort contact me about a neg she had received on here but I had never been to the town she lived in, let alone met her.

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Therein lies the problem. How will mistaken identity be treated?

Client eye is a good thing for escorts like UKP is a good thing for us. Let us hope they are GDPR compliant

[Payyourwaymate]

What will they do with the numbers if they managed to get them? As mentioned before, is that not somehow a breach of GDPR?

Try that with the wrong guy and they'll have legal fees to pay  .

[Mansell]

Seems a very stupid tactic to be trying to do and then openly declare. As if we are suddenly go away 

More regular changes of the punter phone number coming up. 

[Payyourwaymate]

What will they do with the numbers if they managed to get them? As mentioned before, is that not somehow a breach of GDPR?

Try that with the wrong guy and they'll have legal fees to pay  .

I just realised how silly the original Idea of trying to grab numbers is, as one can just spoof numbers and that leaves their idea redundant  .

[Thecunninglinguist]

It's actually a very interesting point. Independent SP's as we know are running a lawful business and some to a greater or lesser degree pay tax etc. As they run a business, if by any means they store any client information, even save the phone number or leave feedback. Then they should have a GDPR statement on any website they advertise on and register with the Information Commissioner. It would make an interesting case?

[AnthG]

I remember I made a post on UKE suggesting how punters can remain anonymous and keep their details safe.

The crazies on their lost their flippin minds saying my making these suggestions are putting WGs at risk and its so awful my doing this.

This today just shows it, fuck them, they want to act like this towards punters for no reason whatsoever than being petty. Then punters need to equally do all they possibly can to hide identifying information from WGs whenever booking them to make it very difficult to know who you are.

There are a series of small things punters can do to make it harder for WGs to identify who they are. I cannot remember the list I made right now as I have just woken up on a Sunday morning.

But off the top of my head I remember some of them.

1. Would be changing your AW account to offering services. Or setting up a new AW account under offering services as opposed to seeking services. AW allows everyone to have one offering and one seeking account open simultaneously within its TOS
2. You can get apps on your android/IOS phone that allow you to have temporary throwaway phone numbers for sending SMS booking requests or making phone calls. Or you can just keep going and buying a £10 topup, use it for 3 punts and disregard. (there are ways you can spend any unused PAYG credit to buy stuff so you don't waste money).
3. Setup a proxy email address - for example BillyJones@Gmail.com, set your AW account as that email, and then setup auto-forwarding to your real email address inside that account so all emails from AW automatically go to your real email but nobody will know it. (email yourself the password for that email account too so you don't ever forget it)
4. Use a different name on every booking; one girl you are Mark, the other Craig, the other Bill, and the other George.
5. Book via agencies whenever you can so girls get little info about you to share
6. OldAdmin once said to give some white lie false information in reviews to throw them off who you were. I can find the post where he said this but it was along the lines of.....On Monday I fancied a punt so seen SexySarah for a punt. When really you seen her three weeks ago on Wednesday.
7. Change your AW username after every few punts to make it much harder to identify you as WGs will just take a note of the AW username you booked with (probably they won't even do that). Furthermore, delete your messages sent and received on AW as soon as you've used them (copy and paste them to an email to yourself if you don't want to forget what was said). If you really wanted you could temporarily deactivate your AW account after every booking and then just bring it back up when you next want to have a punt. WGs do it when they are not working as remember its an offering services account you have. And the emails will get blocked from being read if you do this.
8. Don't leave feedback on AW for any girls, as WGs do this stupid code system on their feedback back to you to identify who you were for others to see.
9. Delete all WGs numbers off your contacts list and instead keep them saved in an email. As apps are a nightmare for "do you know John smith".
10. Don't book anyone via PM on forums. Or by email on AW
11. Try and book via SMS whenever you possibly can.

[Lilywhite]

True, but surely a SP, once she has seen a review of herself, and worked out who the client is/was, can link the username to a phone number.

Punting phones reminder to all.

There are specific groups dedicated ' to this guy is on UKP here is his number and AW' all over whatsapp and FB so people can avoid members.

[mace-window]

I agree completely. It's almost like all escorts are above board and honorable. Never once tried to do a punter out of his money in any way.

Shit like this pisses me off. If the girl was providing a decent service then they should welcome reviews because it's activity promoting them.

Sadly this type of male bashing is not only with guys like Clienteye but in every day public life.

[Belgarion]

There are specific groups dedicated ' to this guy is on UKP here is his number and AW' all over whatsapp and FB so people can avoid members.

Thanks for the heads up, suspected as much

[Belgarion]

I remember I made a post on UKE suggesting how punters can remain anonymous and keep their details safe.

The crazies on their lost their flippin minds saying my making these suggestions are putting WGs at risk and its so awful my doing this.

This today just shows it, fuck them, they want to act like this towards punters for no reason whatsoever than being petty. Then punters need to equally do all they possibly can to hide identifying information from WGs whenever booking them to make it very difficult to know who you are.

There are a series of small things punters can do to make it harder for WGs to identify who they are. I cannot remember the list I made right now as I have just woken up on a Sunday morning.

But off the top of my head I remember some of them.

1. Would be changing your AW account to offering services. Or setting up a new AW account under offering services as opposed to seeking services. AW allows everyone to have one offering and one seeking account open simultaneously within its TOS
2. You can get apps on your android/IOS phone that allow you to have temporary throwaway phone numbers for sending SMS booking requests or making phone calls. Or you can just keep going and buying a £10 topup, use it for 3 punts and disregard. (there are ways you can spend any unused PAYG credit to buy stuff so you don't waste money).
3. Setup a proxy email address - for example BillyJones@Gmail.com, set your AW account as that email, and then setup auto-forwarding to your real email address inside that account so all emails from AW automatically go to your real email but nobody will know it. (email yourself the password for that email account too so you don't ever forget it)
4. Use a different name on every booking; one girl you are Mark, the other Craig, the other Bill, and the other George.
5. Book via agencies whenever you can so girls get little info about you to share
6. OldAdmin once said to give some white lie false information in reviews to throw them off who you were. I can find the post where he said this but it was along the lines of.....On Monday I fancied a punt so seen SexySarah for a punt. When really you seen her three weeks ago on Wednesday.
7. Change your AW username after every few punts to make it much harder to identify you as WGs will just take a note of the AW username you booked with (probably they won't even do that). Furthermore, delete your messages sent and received on AW as soon as you've used them (copy and paste them to an email to yourself if you don't want to forget what was said). If you really wanted you could temporarily deactivate your AW account after every booking and then just bring it back up when you next want to have a punt. WGs do it when they are not working as remember its an offering services account you have. And the emails will get blocked from being read if you do this.
8. Don't leave feedback on AW for any girls, as WGs do this stupid code system on their feedback back to you to identify who you were for others to see.
9. Delete all WGs numbers off your contacts list and instead keep them saved in an email. As apps are a nightmare for "do you know John smith".
10. Don't book anyone via PM on forums. Or by email on AW
11. Try and book via SMS whenever you possibly can.

Use agencies, quelle surprise 

[PatMacGroin]

True, but surely a SP, once she has seen a review of herself, and worked out who the client is/was, can link the username to a phone number.

Punting phones reminder to all.

OK, I can see how that could work.

On the positive side, if a WG chooses to blocks you because she knows you will give an honest review, and she suspects it will be negative. Then that just shows she doesn't have confidence in her service level. And presumably, saves you having to pay to find that out for yourself.

On the negative side, some WG's could choose to block all punters AW IDs or punting phones that they suspect of being UKP members based on this app (or all except those that only ever post positive reviews). Potentially, that could affect how honest members are with their future UKP postings. Leading to more reluctance to post negatives.

However, WG's that use this clienteye app to block the bulk of UKP users are only going to be hurting themselves, by reducing their client base by thousands of potential customers. The good WG's that don't worry about bad reviews wont be affected, so in the long run it could be better for UKP members.    (As long as we are not dumb enough to be using our real phones/emails to contact WG's)

[PatMacGroin]

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8. Don't leave feedback on AW for any girls, as WGs do this stupid code system on their feedback back to you to identify who you were for others to see.

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Can you elaborate on this?

When I first started using AW I wondered if  the WG's feedback could include sneaky messages, almost just by simple sarcasm. So when they say something like "really clean guy" or "respectful gentleman", they actually mean the opposite. I soon realised that idea was just ridiculous.

Is it this sort of thing that you mean? I fail to understand how they could have some complex code that actually relays who a punter is. 

[AnthG]

Use agencies, quelle surprise 

It is good advice. All of the drama of sharing info for malicious purposes has been caused by independents and independents alone in the northeast. Never once the agencies (other than before someone says it the very now-defunct Notorious Girls over 10 years ago now). And like I say using an agency for the booking means these girls don't get their hands on the punter's personal info to do whatever they like with it. Furthermore using an agency means the agency owner knows if the punter is a wrong'un or not from repeated usage and acts as an independent mediator if issues arise.

Also, just to say it. I have never seen an agency owner agree with punters who post on forums to try and get other punters banned from forums when they've PMed them asking for their help to do this or posted requests for it on Twitter for no reason whatsoever other than that punter doesn't like that other punter. Again that's an independent thing...So you know when agencies start doing really sick and twisted stuff like that. Then they can be justifiably ignored and called out upon.

[Students Notebook]

Bizarre tweet....

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However if you enter clienteye.com into your browser you get a page offering to sell you the domain name for 2695 USD

Am I missing something here ??

[AnthG]

Can you elaborate on this?

When I first started using AW I wondered if  the WG's feedback could include sneaky messages, almost just by simple sarcasm. So when they say something like "really clean guy" or "respectful gentleman", they actually mean the opposite. I soon realised that idea was just ridiculous.

Is it this sort of thing that you mean? I fail to understand how they could have some complex code that actually relays who a punter is.

I was remembering it as one of the revelations from the WhatsApp group in the northeast section a year ago. The girls use designated words to mean he is actually rough with you, he is unclean, he is creepy, he is pushy and so forth but said in very innocent positive-sounding words. As this is all said inside positive feedback as the girls don't want any drama by leaving a negative review. And it also shows the punter wasn't that bad if the girl ultimately left a positive review but just with silly coded warning words into it

It is hassle you do not need as a punter, as really when you think about it. The review system on AW really is there to help the girls drum up more business more than anything else.

But my point of mentioning this was, if a WG posts this "coded word" in the feedback, the other girls will be straight up contacting that girl for more info about that punter and his phone number and so forth.

[Students Notebook]

Link here to the app        External Link/Members Only

However if you enter clienteye.com into your browser you get a page offering to sell you the domain name for 2695 USD

Am I missing something here ??

If you read through it all, I don't think there's anything to prevent a punter checking to see if he's on it.

[lewishamguy]

If you read through it all, I don't think there's anything to prevent a punter checking to see if he's on it.

From my understanding it's more like an app version of SAAFE warning, time waster threads. With the app it's easier to check a punter by search criteria.

[Belgarion]

It is good advice. All of the drama of sharing info for malicious purposes has been caused by independents and independents alone in the northeast. Never once the agencies (other than before someone says it the very now-defunct Notorious Girls over 10 years ago now). And like I say using an agency for the booking means these girls don't get their hands on the punter's personal info to do whatever they like with it. Furthermore using an agency means the agency owner knows if the punter is a wrong'un or not from repeated usage and acts as an independent mediator if issues arise.

Also, just to say it. I have never seen an agency owner agree with punters who post on forums to try and get other punters banned from forums when they've PMed them asking for their help to do this or posted requests for it on Twitter for no reason whatsoever other than that punter doesn't like that other punter. Again that's an independent thing...So you know when agencies start doing really sick and twisted stuff like that. Then they can be justifiably ignored and called out upon.

I've seen a few nasty incidents in the region and I'll be wary about an agency owner having my number. Especially as we don't have visibility of the "owners".

You did give good advice though.

[millbush]

I was remembering it as one of the revelations from the WhatsApp group in the northeast section a year ago. The girls use designated words to mean he is actually rough with you, he is unclean, he is creepy, he is pushy and so forth but said in very innocent positive-sounding words. As this is all said inside positive feedback as the girls don't want any drama by leaving a negative review. And it also shows the punter wasn't that bad if the girl ultimately left a positive review but just with silly coded warning words into it

It is hassle you do not need as a punter, as really when you think about it. The review system on AW really is there to help the girls drum up more business more than anything else.

But my point of mentioning this was, if a WG posts this "coded word" in the feedback, the other girls will be straight up contacting that girl for more info about that punter and his phone number and so forth.

Where do we get this secret code from?And no WG has ever had a clue about me when I've turned up.

[AnthG]

Especially as we don't have visibility of the "owners".

The agency owners are surprisingly lax about people knowing their real names. I know the real names of three of them as they openly post it on the forums over and over again without a care. Alli and Junie are actually called that in real life, for example, it's not a fake working name. You could, therefore, argue that is a bad thing them doing that as they are lax with their own details so could be lax with yours too. Or on the flipside good thing given they are open about their real names so trying to have accountability.

The problem always is, who are they dating or who are they married to. That's the ultimate issue. As WGs seem to go for the wrong type of guy (i.e criminal scumbags). There was talk that the agency owners in the region's husbands were part of serious gangster families in the northeast. But I don't know if that's true or not. But people kept saying it by PM.

They all like to claim they have very close ties with the police so if they were all part of the North East equivalent of the Richardsons and Kray's would the police then work with them?

And the thing is though. If an agency owner screwed over a punter criminally (i.e outed them etc), they have more to lose than the punter so they wouldn't do it. A crazy drugged up independent however they won't care one bit and do it in a heartbeat.

[AnthG]

Where do we get this secret code from?And no WG has ever had a clue about me when I've turned up.

The posts in question were on the old UKE that is gone now. So you'd have to ask one of the 'old timer' WGs for it.

It may have just been a northeast thing. But from the tone of the posts, it seemed it was more nationally done set of terms.

WGs always know it's me when I turn up even when I have went out of my way to conceal it. But I think if anyone seen me anywhere they'd go "that guy over there has got to be AnthG from UKP" as I am very distinctive. Which is not great when you are part of this hobby.

[PatMacGroin]

I was remembering it as one of the revelations from the WhatsApp group in the northeast section a year ago. The girls use designated words to mean he is actually rough with you, he is unclean, he is creepy, he is pushy and so forth but said in very innocent positive-sounding words. As this is all said inside positive feedback as the girls don't want any drama by leaving a negative review. And it also shows the punter wasn't that bad if the girl ultimately left a positive review but just with silly coded warning words into it

It is hassle you do not need as a punter, as really when you think about it. The review system on AW really is there to help the girls drum up more business more than anything else.

But my point of mentioning this was, if a WG posts this "coded word" in the feedback, the other girls will be straight up contacting that girl for more info about that punter and his phone number and so forth.

So that sounds like it's just something done by a few WG's that know each other in the NE.

I don't think I'll dwell on it too much then. I doubt that there is a huge network of London WG's that all know each other and have agreed secret code words.

[AnthG]

So that sounds like it's just something done by a few WG's that know each other in the NE.

I don't think I'll dwell on it too much then. I doubt that there is a huge network of London WG's that all know each other and have agreed secret code words.

In London you'd be fine. But Newcastle it's tiny and almost all of the popular WGs all know each other and play as friends with each other and pass details around freely.

[scutty brown]

Bizarre tweet....

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Total bollocks
There aren't any phone numbers on the UKP profiles

[daviemac]

Total bollocks
There aren't any phone numbers on the UKP profiles

They mean linking telephone numbers you've used to contact the SP to UKP profiles.

[scutty brown]

They mean linking telephone numbers you've used to contact the SP to UKP profiles.

I hope you're right and that's all they mean.........I read it as a claim that they'd hacked the database. Unlikely I know, but something to view as one of their intended aims

[webpunter]

+10
Paid for in cash
[although you would in reality need to be in MI 5 or 6 to be able to link a credit / debit card to a mobile top up
Or attract enuf attention from the rozzers to make them consider searching this being worth the effort]

Punting phones reminder to all.

[daviemac]

I hope you're right and that's all they mean.........I read it as a claim that they'd hacked the database. Unlikely I know, but something to view as one of their intended aims

That's the way I understand it anyway, can't speak for others but my phone number isn't anywhere on this site. Can't think of a reason why anyone would have it here, all you need is an email address and that should be a punting one.

[B4bcock]

Cunteye should beware the law of unintentional consequences.   If they hacked this site and released details of members, it would be widely reported in the media.   There would be widespread panic, not only of members here but also all punters using mobile phones to make bookings and a subsequent plunge in punting activity until things died down, leaving a lot of SP's with little custom., which may take a long time to recover.

[daviemac]

Cunteye should beware the law of unintentional consequences.   If they hacked this site and released details of members, it would be widely reported in the media.   There would be widespread panic, not only of members here but also all punters using mobile phones to make bookings and a subsequent plunge in punting activity until things died down, leaving a lot of SP's with little custom., which may take a long time to recover.

Just what details could they release?? a punting name and punting email address and possibly a punting phone number. Widespread panic yeah right.

[millbush]

The posts in question were on the old UKE that is gone now. So you'd have to ask one of the 'old timer' WGs for it.

It may have just been a northeast thing. But from the tone of the posts, it seemed it was more nationally done set of terms.

WGs always know it's me when I turn up even when I have went out of my way to conceal it. But I think if anyone seen me anywhere they'd go "that guy over there has got to be AnthG from UKP" as I am very distinctive. Which is not great when you are part of this hobby.

Ok not met that many SPs but none know the first thing about me so clearly have not looked anything up on AW let alone linked it to UKP.I doubt they have the time to do this.

[AnthG]

Just what details could they release?? a punting name and punting email address and possibly a punting phone number. Widespread panic yeah right.

I have done nothing wrong, and I am single. But I wouldn't want my details to be passed around WGs on some risk site. I would proper kick-off. And I would very quickly find out who posted it if it occurred.

This clienteye is putting WGs at risk by their cunt-ary as a lot of punters would potentially kick-off on finding this out and it wouldn't take a genius to work out which WG posted it onto there given many punters cannot afford to regularly punt so have such a small pool of names to go through over who it could have been.

How do they think punters are going to react if it gets posted up on some at-risk place with claims they are a dangerous person with their details on there for the world to see, yet they are totally innocent, but also have a lot to lose from those WGs doing this?

[daviemac]

I have done nothing wrong, and I am single. But I wouldn't want my details to be passed around WGs on some risk site. I would proper kick-off. And I would very quickly find out who posted it if it occurred.

This clienteye is putting WGs at risk by their cunt-ary as a lot of punters would potentially kick-off on finding this out and it wouldn't take a genius to work out which WG posted it onto there given many punters cannot afford to regularly punt so have such a small pool of names to go through over who it could have been.

How do they think punters are going to react if it gets posted up on some at-risk place with claims they are a dangerous person with their details on there for the world to see, yet they are totally innocent, but also have a lot to lose from those WGs doing this?

So you agree with B4bcock that there will be widespread panic and the world of punt will come crashing down, punters throwing their punting phone in the nearest river and escorts starving and queuing at foodbanks.  I asked  B4bcock how obtaining a punting name, that's on show here, and a punting email that isn't, is going to cause this panic.

Nobody wants this site hacked, nobody wants their name on any blacklist, but clienteye is only one avenue an escort with malicious intent has. There was a case not long ago where a false report was put on UglyMugs about a member here. 

The point I was making, to B4bcock, was punters should not have any personal identifying information on here. I have daviemac in public and daviemac@spuriousemail.com in private, nothing to indicate my real indentity, no phone number, nothing.

[AnthG]

So you agree with B4bcock that there will be widespread panic and the world of punt will come crashing down, punters throwing their punting phone in the nearest river and escorts starving and queuing at foodbanks.  I asked  B4bcock how obtaining a punting name, that's on show here, and a punting email that isn't, is going to cause this panic.

I started punting and posting on the forums right immediately after the Lou4Fun/Tony4Stony issue and I remember what the outfall from all that was like and the craziness that went on and that was just one punter and one WG. The issue there, however, the guy was a total pacifist. And she was just a total arrogant cunt bullying the known pacifist.

This was one WG and one punter. Try having that ^ issue x10000.

[daviemac]

I started punting and posting on the forums right immediately after the Lou4Fun/Tony4Stony issue and I remember what the outfall from all that was like and the craziness that went on and that was just one punter and one WG. The issue there, however, the guy was a total pacifist. And she was just a total arrogant cunt bullying the known pacifist.

This was one WG and one punter. Try having that ^ issue x10000.

So from your post you also thing the punting world is about to end, just because of yet another threat to UKP.

Clienteye are achieving their objective, panicking UKP members. SP's have SAAFE, Uglymugs and whatever other systems they have in place, if they want to be cunts with any punters, what makes you think this is any different.


Think about it Anth, the worse that can happen is you have to convince SPs that accusations against you, if there are any, are false. Unless or course you have your real name, real address and other details stored on here.

[Silva21]

I change my punting sum everytime it runs out of credit.
It's £10 to put £10 of credit on it or £10 to buy a new sim with £10 credit on it.

Really doesn't seem to be a serious issue at all.

[Shortandsensible]

I’m so glad I use cloud sim. I delete the number and get a new profile number every 2-3 months. 

[fisherofsouls]

I change my punting sum everytime it runs out of credit.
It's £10 to put £10 of credit on it or £10 to buy a new sim with £10 credit on it.

Really doesn't seem to be a serious issue at all.

This 

New punting SIM every few weeks
Don't break the law
Don't get a WG pregnant
Use AW for info and nothing more

Chance of adverse outcomes then becomes very low 

[B4bcock]

Just what details could they release?? a punting name and punting email address and possibly a punting phone number. Widespread panic yeah right.

I should have typed 'could' and not 'would' be widespread panic.      A lot would depend on how the media respond and, unfortunately, the tabloids love these type of stories as they sell copy.  Fake news would probably abound!

The main point I was trying to make is that any action of this sort is almost certain to adversely affect WG's bookings.

[jeanphillipe]

As daviemac says even if this place got hacked it would just be a database of users with fake secondary emails right?

Actually as im typing this i remember oldadmin mentioning a small portion of users using their real email addresses. How did he know ? From the domain, one was of lawform for example.

I  can also re itterate the white lie thing old admin mentioned. Never post your review with the exact date and times, also i always wait  a few months. But... if i ever get a negative or do tofft i try for sooner.

Changing your number regularly seems like a great idea too, something i need to do more. I have noticed girls save my number, twice infront of me. (Probably as easy money lol)

Actually something just came to mind, a WG who i tried to see a couple of years ago  but she cancelled on me with 30 mins to go, some family emergency issue. I didnt leave a neg as i was relatively new to punting and now figured this usually means double booked or better offer. I saw her again in the last 6 months (havent reviewed yet but its positive)

Anyway i ramble, the point of interest; she had saved my number and must have made notes as she knew exactly who i was and the scenario prior. I wonder if she saved it at the time to link to a possible negative ?

[lewisjones23]

As daviemac says even if this place got hacked it would just be a database of users with fake secondary emails right?

Actually as im typing this i remember oldadmin mentioning a small portion of users using their real email addresses. How did he know ? From the domain, one was of lawform for example.

I  can also re itterate the white lie thing old admin mentioned. Never post your review with the exact date and times, also i always wait  a few months. But... if i ever get a negative or do tofft i try for sooner.

Changing your number regularly seems like a great idea too, something i need to do more. I have noticed girls save my number, twice infront of me. (Probably as easy money lol)

Actually something just came to mind, a WG who i tried to see a couple of years ago  but she cancelled on me with 30 mins to go, some family emergency issue. I didnt leave a neg as i was relatively new to punting and now figured this usually means double booked or better offer. I saw her again in the last 6 months (havent reviewed yet but its positive)

Anyway i ramble, the point of interest; she had saved my number and must have made notes as she knew exactly who i was and the scenario prior. I wonder if she saved it at the time to link to a possible negative ?

I’m sure he said some signed up with their work email    

[daviemac]

I should have typed 'could' and not 'would' be widespread panic.      A lot would depend on how the media respond and, unfortunately, the tabloids love these type of stories as they sell copy.  Fake news would probably abound!

The main point I was trying to make is that any action of this sort is almost certain to adversely affect WG's bookings.

It won't, simple as that.

There's been anti UKP things all over the internet for years, loads of sites have threatened to bring it down, it's still here though. Try an internet search.

Escorts already have their own systems in place, word of mouth around agencies and some individual escorts, warnings, including phone numbers posted on SAAFE and Uglymugs,  this is just another threat.

Like I said before, it's achieved it's objective, it's got people talking and in your case panicking and scaremongering. There are no phone numbers on here, only what should be spurious email addresses and fake names. Even if the site was hacked they still couldn't accurately associate a review with a specific punter if they used different names.