Massage parlours probably reopening in a weeks time.

[wombat42]

We should get news on massage parlour reopening (beauty salons) at the 5pm Covid news conference today. The talk is that they, gyms, nail bars and swimming pools will open in a weeks time.

[wombat42]

22nd July is apparently the reopening day.

[Georgeuk2]

We should get news on massage parlour reopening (beauty salons) at the 5pm Covid news conference today. The talk is that they, gyms, nail bars and swimming pools will open in a weeks time.

Hope that is the case. Even through quite a few in Birmingham have already opened, I wouldn’t want to risk being charged for breaking the lock down rules in a massage parlour with my pants down ...Lol

[wombat42]

Beauticians, nail clinics and tatooists reopening from Monday 11th July it has been announced.

[Beamer]

Beauticians, spas, nail clinics, swimming pools, gyms reopening from Monday 11th July it has been announced.

Only listening as background but I think the news just confirmed July 11th.

[wombat42]

Only listening as background but I think the news just confirmed July 11th.

Yes I just updated my previous post. Its only gyms, spas, indoor swimming pools waiting until the 25th.

[Adoniron]

Beauticians, nail clinics and tatooists reopening from Monday 11th July it has been announced.

It will either be Monday 13th or Saturday 11th. It can't be Monday 11th.

[Strawberry]

It will either be Monday 13th or Saturday 11th. It can't be Monday 11th.

BBC website reported Monday 13th June 

[wombat42]

It will either be Monday 13th or Saturday 11th. It can't be Monday 11th.

Yes sorry its MONDAY THE 13TH.

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[rebelsurge]

Dowden also announced that beauticians, spas, tattooists, and tanning salons can reopen from Monday with “some restrictions” on particularly high risk services.

Maybe massage is high risk?

[S.X. MacHine]

Yeah, but only in Englandshire.
We poor Jock punters are ‘blessed’ with the lovely Nicola, who has to prove how much more caring she is than Boris, by keeping many activities locked down in Scotland. Just proves how totally she doesn’t understand the workings of business and the economy. This kind of stupidity will only work so long as the U.K. treasury picks up Scotland’s bills.

[rebelsurge]

What else is still closed?
The following sectors are all still closed in England:

Nightclubs, dance halls, discotheques
Casinos
Bowling alleys
Indoor skating rinks
Indoor play areas
Spas
Tanning booths and salons
Massage parlours
Indoor fitness and dance studios
Exhibition halls and conference centres

[wombat42]

Dowden also announced that beauticians, spas, tattooists, and tanning salons can reopen from Monday with “some restrictions” on particularly high risk services.

Maybe massage is high risk?

Massages in Malta reopened a month ago. This is an idea of the sort of restrictions on massages we may have here from Monday:
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[S.X. MacHine]

In Scotland, pubs, restaurants and hotels are still closed.
My gym won’t open (if it does) until August.

[Pete556]

From Gov.UK ...

1.3 What businesses are reopening?
Many businesses and venues are now permitted to reopen and are expected to follow COVID-19 Secure guidelines. From 11 July and 13 July, further businesses will be permitted to open.

From 11 July:

outdoor swimming pools
outdoor water parks
From 13 July:

nail bars and salons
tanning booths and salons
spas, and beauty salons
massage parlours
tattoo parlours
body piercing services

[rebelsurge]

This says Massage is ok to go
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[latecomer]

This says Massage is ok to go
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Yes and it seems the only restriction is they must work "below the face" - so that's all right then.

[j4ckw1ll5]

Looks like 13th July we can get a massage & our nails done! 
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[rebelsurge]

Will rimming and face sitting be considered high risk!

[wombat42]

This says Massage is ok to go
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[wombat42]

Yes and it seems the only restriction is they must work "below the face" - so that's all right then.

And need to wear a visor, need to keep a contact book of customers and need to do a risk assessment. All very challenging for Chinese or Thai massage parlours where their English is not good.

[mr.bluesky]

And need to wear a visor, need to keep a contact book of customers and need to do a risk assessment. All very challenging for Chinese or Thai massage parlours where their English is not good.

This risk assessment does it involve the lady grabbing your bollocks and asking you to cough.

[houseboot]

"Where 2 metre social distancing cannot be maintained, for example when providing a treatment, the person providing the service should wear further protection in addition to any that they may usually wear. This should be a clear visor that covers the face, or the use of a screen or other barrier that protects the practitioner and the customer from respiratory droplets caused by sneezing, coughing or speaking.

The government has worked with a range of stakeholders in the beauty industry to develop the measures close contact services will need to consider to become COVID-19 secure, including:

using screens or barriers to separate clients from each other, and to separate practitioners from clients, such as in nail salons

operating an appointment-only booking system to minimise the number of people on the premises at any one time

keeping the activity time involved to a minimum

increasing the frequency of hand washing and surface cleaning, as well as regularly cleaning equipment or using disposable equipment where possible

avoiding skin to skin contact and wearing gloves where it is not crucial to the service, such as in nail bars and tanning salons

maintaining sufficient spacing between customer chairs

not allowing food or drink, other than water, to be consumed in the salon by customers

making sure a limited and fixed number of workers work together, if they have to be in close proximity to do their jobs

The guidance also applies to businesses that operate in different locations, such as massage therapists working in people’s homes, and those learning in vocational training environments.

Businesses will need to keep records of staff and customers and share these with NHS Test and Trace where requested, to help identify people who may have been exposed to the virus.

Businesses will only be able to open from these dates once they have completed a risk assessment and are confident they are managing the risks. They must have taken the necessary steps to become COVID-19 secure in line with the current Health and Safety legislation.

Employers should display a downloadable notice in their workplaces to show their employees, customers and other visitors to their workplace, that they have followed this guidance."

[sparkus]

There's some additional government help for massage shops here, as I fully intend to 'eat out to help out' as soon as I can:

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[Horizontal pleasures]

There's some additional government help for massage shops here, as I fully intend to 'eat out to help out' as soon as I can:

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I think this is not the eating out we like!?

[wombat42]

"Where 2 metre social distancing cannot be maintained, for example when providing a treatment, the person providing the service should wear further protection in addition to any that they may usually wear. This should be a clear visor that covers the face, or the use of a screen or other barrier that protects the practitioner and the customer from respiratory droplets caused by sneezing, coughing or speaking.

The government has worked with a range of stakeholders in the beauty industry to develop the measures close contact services will need to consider to become COVID-19 secure, including:

using screens or barriers to separate clients from each other, and to separate practitioners from clients, such as in nail salons

operating an appointment-only booking system to minimise the number of people on the premises at any one time

keeping the activity time involved to a minimum

increasing the frequency of hand washing and surface cleaning, as well as regularly cleaning equipment or using disposable equipment where possible

avoiding skin to skin contact and wearing gloves where it is not crucial to the service, such as in nail bars and tanning salons

maintaining sufficient spacing between customer chairs

not allowing food or drink, other than water, to be consumed in the salon by customers

making sure a limited and fixed number of workers work together, if they have to be in close proximity to do their jobs

The guidance also applies to businesses that operate in different locations, such as massage therapists working in people’s homes, and those learning in vocational training environments.

Businesses will need to keep records of staff and customers and share these with NHS Test and Trace where requested, to help identify people who may have been exposed to the virus.

Businesses will only be able to open from these dates once they have completed a risk assessment and are confident they are managing the risks. They must have taken the necessary steps to become COVID-19 secure in line with the current Health and Safety legislation.

Employers should display a downloadable notice in their workplaces to show their employees, customers and other visitors to their workplace, that they have followed this guidance."

How on earth are Chinese or Thai massage parlours with limited English going to work this lot out ?

[oap69]

Will rimming and face sitting be considered high risk!

Will the wg register for the 50% eat out scheme 

[Dipper]

Will rimming and face sitting be considered high risk!

Magnificent. 

[Home Alone]

Anybody know if the reduction in VAT for restaurants will apply to those of us eating out  the SPs?!

You know; in terms of what you have to pay for your meal! 

[Bonker]

No facials though. Specifically mentioned.

[stampjones]

How on earth are Chinese or Thai massage parlours with limited English going to work this lot out ?

No-one’s going to check so who cares

[GingerNuts]

No-one’s going to check so who cares

There are checks.

Massage shops were closed down for opening during the lockdown. Pubs have been closed down for breaking the rules since reopening.

[myothernameis]

22nd July is apparently the reopening day.

Some thai massage parlours, now taking online bookings from 23 July

[paper7]

Yeah, but only in Englandshire.
We poor Jock punters are ‘blessed’ with the lovely Nicola, who has to prove how much more caring she is than Boris, by keeping many activities locked down in Scotland. Just proves how totally she doesn’t understand the workings of business and the economy. This kind of stupidity will only work so long as the U.K. treasury picks up Scotland’s bills.

If 'lovely wee Nicola' opens up Scotland 'to benefit the economy' and people start dying as a result, then she leaves herself wide open to court proceedings to try and prove she was at fault.

If you kill off the people then you kill off the economy anyway.

[tesla]

Will rimming and face sitting be considered high risk!

wont bother you, as you don't punt!

[thenicz]

Will rimming and face sitting be considered high risk!

..and cim perhaps if you have a two meter penis you’ll be alright to get a hand job

[mr.bluesky]

..and cim perhaps if you have a two meter penis you’ll be alright to get a hand job

You will have to aim for her mouth from 2 metres away 

[cotton]

What else is still closed?
The following sectors are all still closed in England:

Nightclubs, dance halls, discotheques
Casinos
Bowling alleys
Indoor skating rinks
Indoor play areas
Spas
Tanning booths and salons
Massage parlours
Indoor fitness and dance studios
Exhibition halls and conference centres

What i dont understand is why libraries are all still shut when they were given the all clear at the beginning of the month , its like if your on the public payroll the bosses use their discretion not to open because its still far too dangerous 

[S.X. MacHine]

If 'lovely wee Nicola' opens up Scotland 'to benefit the economy' and people start dying as a result, then she leaves herself wide open to court proceedings to try and prove she was at fault.

If you kill off the people then you kill off the economy anyway.

I disagree.
Firstly, the prevalence of Covid is less in Scotland than in England, according to Nicola, where the Government is opening up the economy.
Secondly, to put it bluntly, over 70% of Covid fatalities  have been in the over 70 age group; hardly the backbone of our workforce.

[daviemac]

If 'lovely wee Nicola' opens up Scotland 'to benefit the economy' and people start dying as a result, then she leaves herself wide open to court proceedings to try and prove she was at fault.

Good luck with that one, never heard of a political leader being sued for decisions that have cost lives.  Not that it would be possible for anyone to prove beyond doubt how they contracted it.

[maxxblue]

I disagree.
Firstly, the prevalence of Covid is less in Scotland than in England, according to Nicola, where the Government is opening up the economy.
Secondly, to put it bluntly, over 70% of Covid fatalities  have been in the over 70 age group; hardly the backbone of our workforce.

If you read his post, he doesn't refer to the over 70s as being part of the workforce, he states that if you kill off the people then you kill off the economy anyway. Think about it. 

[wombat42]

There is a problem in that the establishment must keep your contact details for 21 days. The establishment have no responsibility whether the details are fake or not but they would likely use the phone number or email adress you used to book the appointment as all treatments must be by appointment. Not sure if that it is so much of a big deal as the appointment does not prove that extras took place to the authorities but could you trust the establishment to have your details ?

[Thephoenix]

There is a problem in that the establishment must keep your contact details for 21 days. The establishment have no responsibility whether the details are fake or not but they would likely use the phone number or email adress you used to book the appointment as all treatments must be by appointment. Not sure if that it is so much of a big deal as the appointment does not prove that extras took place to the authorities but could you trust the establishment to have your details ?

I understand the logic behind the policy, but I usually don't book appointments.
I prefer to just walk in quite early in the day when it's not busy, then I don't have to use my phone.
The less I use my phone the better, so I might be giving them a miss for a while.

[Dipper]

There is a problem in that the establishment must keep your contact details for 21 days. The establishment have no responsibility whether the details are fake or not but they would likely use the phone number or email adress you used to book the appointment as all treatments must be by appointment. Not sure if that it is so much of a big deal as the appointment does not prove that extras took place to the authorities but could you trust the establishment to have your details ?

I’ll be very surprised if any proof of ID is required at all. Other than asking for a name... (pick a name ANY name) and time slot.

[Adoniron]

My favourite parlour is reopening on Monday on a bookings only basis. I will be very surprised if they will be recording or sharing any personal data. I suspect they will write down whatever name you give them, the girl you are seeing and the time and that will be it.

[myothernameis]

There is a problem in that the establishment must keep your contact details for 21 days.

Even my local churches are open now, and they have asked anyone, who comes in for prayer, to leave there name in the book at the door, or contact and trace

[Home Alone]

I’ll be very surprised if any proof of ID is required at all. Other than asking for a name... (pick a name ANY name) and time slot.

True; that!

A pal and I went went for lunch in a local pub-grub place - I hesitate to use the word 'gastropub'  - yesterday.

Because I was the first of the two of us to appear at the manager's lectern, they were my details which he wrote into an official-looking book. So, recorded for posterity, are: my - actual - name & address; the email address which my friends and family use; and my - punting  - phone number.

Because I've got such an honest face obvs., at no time was I asked for proof of any of the information I'd just provided.

Fortunately, my - non-punting - pal didn't say anything when I rattled off a phone number he's never rung me on.

[wombat42]

I’ll be very surprised if any proof of ID is required at all. Other than asking for a name... (pick a name ANY name) and time slot.

You are missing my point. You would have had to reveal your phone number or email address to make the appointment. When I had a haircut a few days back the hairdresser just automatically recorded the phone number I used to text her for the appointment.

[Dipper]

You are missing my point. You would have had to reveal your phone number or email address to make the appointment. When I had a haircut a few days back the hairdresser just automatically recorded the phone number I used to text her for the appointment.

So are you saying it’ll be appointment/proof of ID only?

I’m sure most of us are sensible enough to use emails and numbers without consequence in this game.

I’ve had haircuts since and it’s just been walk in and leave same  as pre Covid.

[GingerNuts]

So are you saying it’ll be appointment/proof of ID only?

I’m sure most of us are sensible enough to use emails and numbers without consequence in this game.

I’ve had haircuts since and it’s just been walk in and leave same  as pre Covid.

The guidance for close contact services (including hairdressers, barbers, beauticians, tattooists, sports and massage therapists, dress fitters, tailors and fashion designers) includes:

• Operating an appointment-only system.

• The opening up of the economy following the COVID-19 outbreak is being supported by NHS Test and Trace. You should assist this service by keeping a temporary record of your clients and visitors for 21 days, in a way that is manageable for your business, and assist NHS Test and Trace with requests for that data if needed.