The pound is crashing - WGs leaving

[Marmalade]

If it's a rb then it's not haggling.

As opposed to ribbing us.

Nice avatar mate. 

[petermisc]

I know exactly where I was punting  , and punting too bloody often, the first wave of EE,s in the brothel flats were very eager to please.

Agreed, the first wave of EE girls (especially Poles) totally changed the game.  As you say, very eager to please, and offering services like DFK when most British WGs at the time wouldn't even kiss.

[lillythesavage]

Agreed, the first wave of EE girls (especially Poles) totally changed the game.  As you say, very eager to please, and offering services like DFK when most British WGs at the time wouldn't even kiss.

The internet ruined them  .

[thundercrackerxx]

Good. Most of these girls from abroad are awful. Out dated pictures, poor attitude. This will hopefully clean out the trash. May make UK girls a bit more desperate for cash so they'll take up escorting.

[southcoastpunter]

. May make UK girls a bit more desperate for cash so they'll take up escorting.

so you want women to be desperate for money so they become an Escort? that's sort a sad position to take. whilst they all do it for money (or at least money is one of the reasons they do it) I don't want to see women because they are desperate.

Surely if they are desperate, they will focus only on money and not necessarily on service!

[JustaPunter]

Good. Most of these girls from abroad are awful. Out dated pictures, poor attitude. This will hopefully clean out the trash. May make UK girls a bit more desperate for cash so they'll take up escorting.

Erm, that last sentence…..

[lovemachine]

so you want women to be desperate for money so they become an Escort? that's sort a sad position to take. whilst they all do it for money (or at least money is one of the reasons they do it) I don't want to see women because they are desperate.

Surely if they are desperate, they will focus only on money and not necessarily on service!

He said " a bit more desperate" which could be quite far off being "desperate" as you have quoted him. 

[daviemac]

He said " a bit more desperate" which could be quite far off being "desperate" as you have quoted him.

Read his post, he said, - " a bit more desperate for cash so they'll take up escorting.

What he's hoping for is women to be in a situation where they have to do something they would not do in normal circumstances, personally I want to see escorts who do the job willingly, not ones who are forced by desperation. 

[Marmalade]

Read his post, he said, - " a bit more desperate for cash so they'll take up escorting.

What he's hoping for is women to be in a situation where they have to do something they would not do in normal circumstances, personally I want to see escorts who do the job willingly, not ones who are forced by desperation.

And personally that’s what I want to see the same as you Davie. But to be fair, his ‘attitude’ if that’s what’s being criticised, is only assumed from reading his whole paragraph. The sentence you quote is just a statement of probable fact, not a wish.

[a1000punts]

Nah.

I don’t think we’re overly inundated with American WGs in the UK.

Everything is falling against the dollar at the moment, this isn’t a sterling crisis it’s a global issue.  The Euro just hit a 20-year low against the dollar, sterling is holding up against the Euro for example.

It's has fallen against the euro too, pretty considerably

[Colston36]

What goes around comes around. I started a business in the late '70's; we used to use a very funny cartoonist for odd jobs.

I still recall one of his best, which was a picture of a man on a bench saying "Run for your lives. The pound is falling".

Of course Britain survived, though whether we'll survive the fuckwitted bitch in charge now is another matter.

[petermisc]

Good. Most of these girls from abroad are awful. Out dated pictures, poor attitude. This will hopefully clean out the trash.

If your experience of foreign girls is based on Roms or Brazilians (and they do seem to make up the majority now), then I can understand your attitude. My experience is based on Poles, Hungarians and Thais, who are far better.  I had so many bad experiences in the past with lack-luster British WGs that the thought of going to one is a turnoff.

Unfortunately British women have largely lost the art of dressing to look attractive.  Go to any Eastern European city in summer time and you will have little trouble telling who is local.  Consequently when most British women try to look sexy, they just end up looking tarty.  You only have to walk around any British town or city on a Friday or Saturday evening to see what most British women think is attractive.

[JustaPunter]

What goes around comes around. I started a business in the late '70's; we used to use a very funny cartoonist for odd jobs.

I still recall one of his best, which was a picture of a man on a bench saying "Run for your lives. The pound is falling".

Of course Britain survived, though whether we'll survive the fuckwitted bitch in charge now is another matter.

Last time I looked the £ had recovered and was stronger than previous to the minibudget.

One interesting thing is the Media is ignoring the fact that the $ is strong against all currencies at the moment

So why are the globalist, remoaner Media so anti the new PM and Chancellor?

[petermisc]

So why are the globalist, remoaner Media so anti the new PM and Chancellor?

Could it have anything to do with pound crashing to lowest in living memory, normally safe bonds halving in value, BoE having to pump in god knows how much to save pension schemes from imploding, ......

Perhaps they haven't buried their heads in the sand like you, still blaming every ill on remoaners.

[LLPunting]

Last time I looked the £ had recovered and was stronger than previous to the minibudget.

One interesting thing is the Media is ignoring the fact that the $ is strong against all currencies at the moment

So why are the globalist, remoaner Media so anti the new PM and Chancellor?

A simple search of the GBP/USD rate shows you're lying.
So the interesting thing is that you're clearly trolling.
Prove you aren't by doing some unprejudiced, conscientious research across multiple expert viewpoints and then return to apologise citing the sources that educated you.

[AW71]

It's has fallen against the euro too, pretty considerably

This is not true. You can check. Since KK opened his mouth GBP is very slightly down against the USD and about unchanged against the EUR. Going back a few months it is slightly down against EUR and heavily down against USD.

Of course what happens when the markets open this evening is anyone's guess. I think it is entirely possible GBP recovers as funds are massively short and higher rates are coming. It may well do the complete opposite though.

[Marmalade]

I use a free app called iCurrency Pad for conversions and a rough guide when travelling.

If I click on the “graph” option, it shows changes over 1 day, 5 days, 3months and so on. Depending which marker I use, most currencies (including £ vs €) have both risen and fallen.

The current rate is seriously low compared to several points around 2007 when it was 1.5; or briefly around 2015 when it again rose to 1.4. The present fluctuations are relatively minor however, as in the past five years, and a coffee in Gare de l'Est has stayed outrageously expensive and a fuck in Filis St frivolously cheap.

[estats]

so you want women to be desperate for money so they become an Escort? that's sort a sad position to take. whilst they all do it for money (or at least money is one of the reasons they do it) I don't want to see women because they are desperate.

Surely if they are desperate, they will focus only on money and not necessarily on service!

I think you are missing the general point, a majority of people will be desperate for money and act in unusual ways, that apppears the whole purpose of the energy market intervention, for example.

We are about to enter a serious financial crisis, either interest rates or inflation will get us, but one or the other will.

That being said, WE have been the fools loading up on cheap debt, thinking it would remain cheap forever. And central banks are the ones who have kept the cost of money low and allowed financial institutions to leverage themselves up to the point of posing systemic risks to the British economy.

We may not like desperate people, but we are the idiots who have taken on the debt, and there will be a lot of tragic circumstances.

What is your real moral point between someone having to work 2 jobs as a cleaner and in the supermarket and then a WG? Do you really say you don't wish to be served by the checkout at Aldi because they are having to work that second job to survive? Do you choose not to shop there due to cheaper prices, i.e. you actively want to pay more for your shopping, etc? Are you returning your energy rebate and/or tax cuts? The point I'm making is we don't need faux morality, but financial solutions.

[Home Alone]

... ... ... ...

That being said, WE have been the fools loading up on cheap debt, thinking it would remain cheap forever. And central banks are the ones who have kept the cost of money low and allowed financial institutions to leverage themselves up to the point of posing systemic risks to the British economy.

We may not like desperate people, but we are the idiots who have taken on the debt, and there will be a lot of tragic circumstances.
... ... ... ...

Back in the day, 40 years ago, when I was trying to impress the soon-to-be Mrs H A , I bent my credit card almost out of recognition buying her - and us, as a couple - "stuff" to impress her. She was less impressed when correspondence began to arrive almost daily - she worked from home and opened all the official letters which the postman brought while I was in the office - which led ultimately to my appearance in the Debtors' Court.

It was a salutary lesson, probably best explained by Mr. Micawber in Dickens' "David Copperfield;

"Annual income: £20,0s,0d. Annual expenditure: £19,19s, 6d. Result: happiness.
Annual income: £20, 0s, 0d. Annual expenditure: £20, 0s, 6d. Result: misery."

I learned my lesson and told my one and only Credit card company that I do not want my current limit increasing. And it hasn't increased for, probably, ten years. I make a point of never spending anywhere near that limit. If I can't afford an item because it's more than my card's limit, then I cut back until I can afford it.

Now, that's all right for me with my - generous (but I worked for it) - occupational pension on top of my state pension. But until more of us follow Mr. Micawber's advice, then this is a problem that will always be with us.

People are going to have get used to saying, "No; I can't afford that; and I won't buy it until I can."

[thundercrackerxx]

I've done jobs before I didn't want to do or enjoy when I was desperate for cash. That's life isn't it.

[thundercrackerxx]

Read his post, he said, - " a bit more desperate for cash so they'll take up escorting.

What he's hoping for is women to be in a situation where they have to do something they would not do in normal circumstances, personally I want to see escorts who do the job willingly, not ones who are forced by desperation.

Do you have the same attitude towards Tesco workers? Rubbish collectors? Pizza delivery drivers etc? Or do you think they are all really passionate about their work and love doing those jobs every day? Having to do a job because we need the money not because we like or enjoy the work is life isn't it? I've never been privileged enough to only ever do jobs I really enjoy and have had to take jobs out of desperation for money.

[Marmalade]

For some reason filling shelves at Lidl is considered more socially acceptable than the same woman getting her fanny filled for fifteen times the pay. Not much mind you. Lidl workers I’ve spoken to do really feel they are the lowest of the low. Fucking sad.

I doubt if many such “desperate women” fit a channel-4 image of the unwashed tear-stained suicidally fucked-up-for-life pox-ridden waif living in a rat-infested hole battered blue by violent predators. They’ve probably just thought fuck it, and want to swap food-bank leftovers for some Dom Perignon to wash down their Greggs-of-choice. It’s a major lifestyle step but let’s face it, they’re already in the lower demographic, and have a considerable ‘last resort’ advantage over any men in the same situation.

We can all hope all the people of world live well with the food, lodging and occupation of their first choice. Wishing it won’t make it happen. We’re customers.

Think of it as taking the pressure off the food banks if you need an excuse.

[lillythesavage]

Do you have the same attitude towards Tesco workers? Rubbish collectors? Pizza delivery drivers etc? Or do you think they are all really passionate about their work and love doing those jobs every day? Having to do a job because we need the money not because we like or enjoy the work is life isn't it? I've never been privileged enough to only ever do jobs I really enjoy and have had to take jobs out of desperation for money.

My God you really do not have a clue.

I have sold a few cars to Brazilian guys, one a chef who gave it up, another with a 4 day full time job, some doing food delivery full time, every one enjoys the job, and pay is far better than most think.

I have 2 very good friends, truck drivers, who decided to work refuse collection because the hours are so good and the perks are brilliant.

No other job can compare to selling your body to strangers out of desperation, you doing so is wrong on every level, as is hoping that women are put in the situation of doing so, but you are willing to take advantage of them, would you be happy if your daughter was in that situation?

Go on, tell us you would encourage her, tell her it is just a job.

[Marmalade]

He wasn’t talking about encouraging. I think you maybe are on your PMT lilly. 

[southcoastpunter]

He did say "good" marmalade

Good. ..... May make UK girls a bit more desperate for cash so they'll take up escorting.

you are right he is not talking about "encouraging" ladies to take up escorting but being driven to do so by "desperation" for money. Bit of a difference!

And Lilly is right - "No other job can compare to selling your body to strangers out of desperation,". Having a fat, ugly, 60 or 70 year old invading your body is not comparable to anything else. (ok not every punter is like that, but i bet a fair number are) And look at the language we use now days on reviews - "smashed her", "can take a good pounding" etc. Yes the money maybe good and lot more than she can earn elsewhere but how many of us would be willing to sell our asses to more or less anyone for £60! 3, 4, 5 or maybe more times a day!

[daviemac]

Do you have the same attitude towards Tesco workers? Rubbish collectors? Pizza delivery drivers etc? Or do you think they are all really passionate about their work and love doing those jobs every day? Having to do a job because we need the money not because we like or enjoy the work is life isn't it? I've never been privileged enough to only ever do jobs I really enjoy and have had to take jobs out of desperation for money.

There's a world of difference between taking a job stacking supermarket shelves and the like because you are desperate for money and selling sex to strangers.

If you want to book escorts who are so desperate they have to turn to prostitution then you carry on, but it's not for me, I want to book ones that do it because they want to and are happy to provide the service.

I can't think of any women that I know who wouldn't take a job in a supermarket if needs must, they wouldn't enjoy it but they would do it. At the same time I can't imagine any of the women in my family or circle of friends who would turn to prostitution.

On the other side of the coin I know of loads of women who are happy to be prostitutes and give an excellent service.

Nobody can tell me a 20 something year old woman who has turned to sex work out of desperation is going to give the same level of service as one of a similar age for whom escorting is her chosen profession.

[estats]

There's a world of difference between taking a job stacking supermarket shelves and the like because you are desperate for money and selling sex to strangers.

If you want to book escorts who are so desperate they have to turn to prostitution then you carry on, but it's not for me, I want to book ones that do it because they want to and are happy to provide the service.

I can't think of any women that I know who wouldn't take a job in a supermarket if needs must, they wouldn't enjoy it but they would do it. At the same time I can't imagine any of the women in my family or circle of friends who would turn to prostitution.

On the other side of the coin I know of loads of women who are happy to be prostitutes and give an excellent service.

Nobody can tell me a 20 something year old woman who has turned to sex work out of desperation is going to give the same level of service as one of a similar age for whom escorting is her chosen profession.

What is the point you make here?

I think it is a very difficult argument to make on what jobs you or the women you speak of may find moral to do, or not. We all have differing views on what and what isn't moral, morally acceptable or within societal parameters.

Essentially are you actually saying you are happy for women to be financially desperate and work in the supermarket (from which we may all benefit from, i.e. our groceries cheaper thanks to their cheap labour), but you are not happy for the same women to be desperate and be a WG, even though working as a WG may actually see them less financially desperate?

You seem to be making an entirely moral point, which I may or may not agree with, even though the outcome of your or others views of what is or isn't moral makes the financial desperation worse? Again, the point on what service level someone may or may not receive appears an entirely subjective and individually focused one.

My view is for more of a financial solution that excludes many elements of morality, i.e. can we please fix our broken financial system to the benefit of everyone.

[king tarzan]

My God you really do not have a clue.

I have sold a few cars to Brazilian guys, one a chef who gave it up, another with a 4 day full time job, some doing food delivery full time, every one enjoys the job, and pay is far better than most think.

I have 2 very good friends, truck drivers, who decided to work refuse collection because the hours are so good and the perks are brilliant.

No other job can compare to selling your body to strangers out of desperation, you doing so is wrong on every level, as is hoping that women are put in the situation of doing so, but you are willing to take advantage of them, would you be happy if your daughter was in that situation?

Go on, tell us you would encourage her, tell her it is just a job.

You go to hookers too... Stop taking the righteous moral high ground..

[daviemac]

What is the point you make here?

I wasn't making any point to you, my reply was solely to thundercrackerxx who brought other workers into it with this -

Do you have the same attitude towards Tesco workers? Rubbish collectors? Pizza delivery drivers etc? Or do you think they are all really passionate about their work and love doing those jobs every day? Having to do a job because we need the money not because we like or enjoy the work is life isn't it? I've never been privileged enough to only ever do jobs I really enjoy and have had to take jobs out of desperation for money.

If you have any issue with what jobs people do and why take it up with him, he brought it up. My point is I don't want to be seeing escorts who are so desperate they feel sex work is the only answer.

[estats]

I wasn't making any point to you, my reply was solely to thundercrackerxx who brought other workers into it with this -

If you have any issue with what jobs people do and why take it up with him, he brought it up. My point is I don't want to be seeing escorts who are so desperate they feel sex work is the only answer.

All I was trying to get at was that is your moral view, we are all entitled to one, but this differs so much it is not the basis for decisive judgment.

In fact, it seems an entirely contradictory point to me. You don't want to see an escort who sells sex because they are in a financially desperate situation, but you are happy for that same women to be financially desperate and serve you on a checkout for which you benefit from her labour.

She may hate serving you, she may hate her job, we know people are assaulted, robbed and abused in retail environments every day, but you are happy for her to do it, whereas you and you say the women you know make an entirely different moral judgement on sex related work. I don't doubt it is the case, but I don't see such moral intervention in wider financial markets as productive or efficient.

The point I'm making is the use of morality in terms of determining a hierarchy of suitable job openings seems entirely unproductive in resolving the wider market and macroeconomic conditions, to me.

If we stop people being financially desperate, we don't have to make such moral judgements of what jobs people should or shouldn't work, they have a freedom of choice to decide.

[king tarzan]

All I was trying to get at was that is your moral view, we are all entitled to one, but this differs so much it is not the basis for decisive judgment.

In fact, it seems an entirely contradictory point to me. You don't want to see an escort who sells sex because they are in a financially desperate situation, but you are happy for that same women to be financially desperate and serve you on a checkout for which you benefit from her labour.

She may hate serving you, she may hate her job, we know people are assaulted, robbed and abused in retail environments every day, but you are happy for her to do it, whereas you and you say the women you know make an entirely different moral judgement on sex related work. I don't doubt it is the case, but I don't see such moral intervention in wider financial markets as productive or efficient.

The point I'm making is the use of morality in terms of determining a hierarchy of suitable job openings seems entirely unproductive in resolving the wider market and macroeconomic conditions, to me.

If we stop people being financially desperate, we don't have to make such moral judgements of what jobs people should or shouldn't work, they have a freedom of choice to decide.

I'm sure if a hottie had paid off house beamer car nice neat bank account she wouldn't whore in the first place..

It's cash that puts there body up for rent...
Regardless of desperation....
Can be lazybones greed quick fix money


Forget there circumstances

Just pay enjoy

[daviemac]

All I was trying to get at was that is your moral view, we are all entitled to one, but this differs so much it is not the basis for decisive judgment.

In fact, it seems an entirely contradictory point to me. You don't want to see an escort who sells sex because they are in a financially desperate situation, but you are happy for that same women to be financially desperate and serve you on a checkout for which you benefit from her labour.

She may hate serving you, she may hate her job, we know people are assaulted, robbed and abused in retail environments every day, but you are happy for her to do it, whereas you and you say the women you know make an entirely different moral judgement on sex related work. I don't doubt it is the case, but I don't see such moral intervention in wider financial markets as productive or efficient.

The point I'm making is the use of morality in terms of determining a hierarchy of suitable job openings seems entirely unproductive in resolving the wider market and macroeconomic conditions, to me.

If we stop people being financially desperate, we don't have to make such moral judgements of what jobs people should or shouldn't work, they have a freedom of choice to decide.

Selling sex is a totally different dynamic to any other job, like I said if you have issues around that take the reference to other work up with the person who introduced it into the thread and that is not me.

To try and explain it to you in simpler terms, if an escort is only doing it out of desperation then she is not going to provide the same level of service as one who has chosen sex work as a career and I don't want to be paying £2+ per minute to someone who doesn't really want to be doing it, nor do I want to be seeing anyone coerced or forced.

BTW when I pay for groceries the money goes to the shop not the checkout assistant but that is something you need to take up with thundercrackerxx.

[lillythesavage]

You go to hookers too... Stop taking the righteous moral high ground..

Plenty chose to do it, no one except the idiot I replied to wants to fuck desperate women, or should not do.

Or are you one of those that do?

[king tarzan]

Plenty chose to do it, no one except the idiot I replied to wants to fuck desperate women, or should not do.

Or are you one of those that do?

I go to classy women, the love designer type..
So no idea

[MissWolf]

I'm sure if a hottie had paid off house beamer car nice neat bank account she wouldn't whore in the first place..

It's cash that puts there body up for rent...
Regardless of desperation....
Can be lazybones greed quick fix money


Forget there circumstances

Just pay enjoy

So on that logic it doesn't matter why they do it or how they came to do it as long as you can fuck them you're happy? Yes?

Nice to see you so supportive of trafficking, no surprise

[king tarzan]

I go to classy women, the love designer brands type..
So no idea

[MissWolf]

I go to classy women, the love designer type..
So no idea

I can almost guarantee a good percentage of your  'classy women' will be under a pimp or gang, you are seriously deluded

[king tarzan]

I can almost guarantee a good percentage of your  'classy women' will be under a pimp or gang, you are seriously deluded

Hi there

Now bye bye there 👍

[MissWolf]

Hi there

Now bye bye there 👍

  awww don't like it when confronted by the truth eh KT

You keep burying your head in the sand 

[Marmalade]

So on that logic it doesn't matter why they do it or how they came to do it as long as you can fuck them you're happy? Yes?

Nice to see you so supportive of trafficking, no surprise

I don’t think anyone on here supports trafficking, Miss Wolf.

There’s a big difference between being trafficked (no choice) and choosing it cos you’re broke. I wouldn’t go as far as to condone making it an obligatory suggestion at the job centre either ffs.

Some folk seem to be overthinking the reasons why someone chooses to escort. There’s a big grey area between ‘unable to eat’ and ‘wanting to eat better’. Do you have the same lifestyle as you did before escorting? Probably not.

It is almost impossible for a punter to guess the reasons — and most prossies would say it’s none of his business. If there’s a suspicion of being pimped there’s ways of saying no, and reporting it. There’s not the same option to say ‘I think she was at the food bank last week.’

There’s also a big difference between saying ‘maybe more women will escort cos they’re desperate” and hoping that. The first is a statistical probability, a statement of fact, or a reasonable guess. It’s not the same as saying you want women to be desperate and so take up escorting. An abolitionist could have made the first statement exactly the same as a punter.

Even if the OP meant that — which I wouldn’t particularly condone — he’s not presumably in a position to reduce or increase the number of ‘desperate’ women doing it anyway. Neither, probably, would he be able to tell when arriving at a punt.

The judgmental attitude of some people is just getting virtuous about a hypothetical of a hypothetical.

In the unlikely event that a punter expressed a truly morally corrupt attitude (eg condoning trafficking, or encouraging poverty) then I hope he would be duly chastised. Unless that happens could I politely suggest people stop jumping on him? (That would particularly apply to you if a WG is making accusations against punters, wouldn’t it.)

[lamboman]

awww don't like it when confronted by the truth eh KT

You keep burying your head in the sand 

I don't know why you don't block the complete idiot like I do Miss Wolf,an absolute clown.

[king tarzan]

I don’t think anyone on here supports trafficking, Miss Wolf.

There’s a big difference between being trafficked (no choice) and choosing it cos you’re broke. I wouldn’t go as far as to condone making it an obligatory suggestion at the job centre either ffs.

Some folk seem to be overthinking the reasons why someone chooses to escort. There’s a big grey area between ‘unable to eat’ and ‘wanting to eat better’. Do you have the same lifestyle as you did before escorting? Probably not.

It is almost impossible for a punter to guess the reasons — and most prossies would say it’s none of his business. If there’s a suspicion of being pimped there’s ways of saying no, and reporting it. There’s not the same option to say ‘I think she was at the food bank last week.’

There’s also a big difference between saying ‘maybe more women will escort cos they’re desperate” and hoping that. The first is a statistical probability, a statement of fact, or a reasonable guess. It’s not the same as saying you want women to be desperate and so take up escorting. An abolitionist could have made the first statement exactly the same as a punter.

Even if the OP meant that — which I wouldn’t particularly condone — he’s not presumably in a position to reduce or increase the number of ‘desperate’ women doing it anyway. Neither, probably, would he be able to tell when arriving at a punt.

The judgmental attitude of some people is just getting virtuous about a hypothetical of a hypothetical.

In the unlikely event that a punter expressed a truly morally corrupt attitude (eg condoning trafficking, or encouraging poverty) then I hope he would be duly chastised. Unless that happens could I politely suggest people stop jumping on him? (That would particularly apply to you if a WG is making accusations against punters, wouldn’t it.)

Very valid factual points...👍👍

[estats]

I don’t think anyone on here supports trafficking, Miss Wolf.

There’s a big difference between being trafficked (no choice) and choosing it cos you’re broke. I wouldn’t go as far as to condone making it an obligatory suggestion at the job centre either ffs.

Some folk seem to be overthinking the reasons why someone chooses to escort. There’s a big grey area between ‘unable to eat’ and ‘wanting to eat better’. Do you have the same lifestyle as you did before escorting? Probably not.

It is almost impossible for a punter to guess the reasons — and most prossies would say it’s none of his business. If there’s a suspicion of being pimped there’s ways of saying no, and reporting it. There’s not the same option to say ‘I think she was at the food bank last week.’

There’s also a big difference between saying ‘maybe more women will escort cos they’re desperate” and hoping that. The first is a statistical probability, a statement of fact, or a reasonable guess. It’s not the same as saying you want women to be desperate and so take up escorting. An abolitionist could have made the first statement exactly the same as a punter.

Even if the OP meant that — which I wouldn’t particularly condone — he’s not presumably in a position to reduce or increase the number of ‘desperate’ women doing it anyway. Neither, probably, would he be able to tell when arriving at a punt.

The judgmental attitude of some people is just getting virtuous about a hypothetical of a hypothetical.

In the unlikely event that a punter expressed a truly morally corrupt attitude (eg condoning trafficking, or encouraging poverty) then I hope he would be duly chastised. Unless that happens could I politely suggest people stop jumping on him? (That would particularly apply to you if a WG is making accusations against punters, wouldn’t it.)

Excellent post and the basis of what I was trying to say. Moralising or trying to second judge why people do what job is inefficient in finding solutions with the finances of the country and people in the UK at the moment.

I don't wish anyone to be in a tough situation, but they will be, those are two very differing opinions, but both can be true. By the nature of the crisis we are entering and yes by individuals own choice to load up on debt with no understanding or worry the cost of servicing that debt would, always, at some stage have to increase.

We already have desperate people, we will have a lot more. Who am I, or anyone to moralise on the decisions they make to find solutions out of their situation (within the law, of course).

[southcoastpunter]

We already have desperate people, we will have a lot more. Who am I, or anyone to moralise on the decisions they make to find solutions out of their situation (within the law, of course).

it wasn't that at all that i (and, i think,) a few others were commenting on. It was thundercrackersxx's comment that he was GLAD some women would become desperate as then more would have to become escorts to survive. (at least that it was how it read to me) .

[tynetunnel]

I don't know why you don't block the complete idiot like I do Miss Wolf,an absolute clown.

I’m not the only one then! 

[Marmalade]

So… shall we continue
1) exchanging opinions/insults on whether Thundercrack is evil?
2) engage in philosophical analysis over the wording of various statements?
3) get back on thread (which is a silly hypothetical about prossies LEAVING (anyone have any data?)
or 
4) lighten the mood a bit?

I’ll go for (4)
Which prompts two questions…
a) how did Thundercrackxxx come by that spiffing username, and
b) has anyone else seen the remarkable cult movie called THUNDERCRACK! ?

(Answers on a postcard or this thread) 

[king tarzan]

So… shall we continue
1) exchanging opinions/insults on whether Thundercrack is evil?
2) engage in philosophical analysis over the wording of various statements?
3) get back on thread (which is a silly hypothetical about prossies LEAVING (anyone have any data?)
or 
4) lighten the mood a bit?

I’ll go for (4)
Which prompts two questions…
a) how did Thundercrackxxx come by that spiffing username, and
b) has anyone else seen the remarkable cult movie called THUNDERCRACK! ?

(Answers on a postcard or this thread) 

Sounds like myself and Mr Thundercrack are considered on this thread as most hated/evil

[Marmalade]

Sounds like myself and Mr Thundercrack are considered on this thread as most hated/evil

I wouldn’t worry. Over the years, I’ve noticed you have an evil obsession with mangoes. The evidence was evidence was eventually dismissed as “too squashy”.

[dexpunt]

Sounds like myself and Mr Thundercrack are considered on this thread as most hated/evil

You live in London and Support Man Utd
You give real Man Utd fans a bad name
You talk shit on most of the forums
Fall out with WGs
Antagonize most of the punters on here
Pay higher rice punts than 90% of other on here
sound like an arrogant idiot

What makes you think people don't care much for you?

[king tarzan]

You live in London and Support Man Utd
You give real Man Utd fans a bad name
You talk shit on most of the forums
Fall out with WGs
Antagonize most of the punters on here
Pay higher rice punts than 90% of other on here
sound like an arrogant idiot

What makes you think people don't care much for you?

Stop being over sensitive
Go to your local pub and have a nice cold beer..
Relax