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Offline bazwelsh

Welcome to the forum Bazwelsh. Good first input as well. Things seem to fall into 2 categories. Those like me who've had a shit sex life and those who are bored with a good sex life the likes of me would love to have had and feel they should have more variety.

I dont think you are a bad husband as I have friends who have great sex lives and they think like you. However if I were in your shoes I wouldnt take the chance. Theres many punters on this thread who would love to be in your shoes, me included for I wouldnt be here now if I were in your shoes, but we are all different.
You have to weigh up the risks whether its worth jeapordising your marriage for the extra high you may get. Its bloody addictive and expensive, you have a family who no doubt love you. Your OH will freak out as she seems to look after your needs and she is attractive. Personnally I would think long and hard about this. Your call and welcome. :hi:

Thankyou for the welcome Matrix , and thankyou for the sound advice , I was expecting any advice to be pro punt so it was a spanner in the works that has made be re-evaluate .....to stall me further this afternoon I took advantage of the january sales and bought myself a few toys from lovehoney  :drinks: these will have to be my little secret and hopefully they will be enough fun to stop me taking this anyfurther ...Ive never heard of anyone getting a divorce because they got caught with a plastic pussy so hey ho  :thumbsup:

James JJ

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Interesting post. Imho if she is such a babe, then when you do next have sex, why not go out of your way to makea it a bit less than vanilla? Maybe learn some new techniques and try some new things.
You obviously still love her a lot and with the greatest of respect, I suspect that if you start punting you may get EAS and it could lead to fucking up a good marriage.
On the other hand depending really on your personality and proclivities the occasional punt may be just the thing you need for the relief. It’s certainly better than an affair imho.

It's not vanilla because of me.  I suggest things all the time to spice things up and she looks at me like I'm a pervert or something or just laughs.  I've been spoiled a bit in other relationships and experienced lots of different things so there's nothing I'm eager to try but I just want things to be more frequent.    I'm sick of dropping hints that I'm not happy with this side of our relationship which has driven me here really.   Our sex life is all about me pleasuring her which I don't really mind to be honest .   I rarely ever get a blow job,  she'll sometime pay it a bit of lip service but she wouldn't follow it all the way through.  I do adore the woman but with each 'headache' or whatever the excuse was that day I just started to get more and more resentful and started to become a bit of a cunt towards her which is really not like me.  I wouldn't be interested in an affair.   I struggle having time for the life I've got never mind bringing somebody else into the equation.

I'm sorry but what is EAS?
« Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 12:17:01 pm by James JJ »

rabari

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I guess `EAS` stands for `easy affordable sex`...I may be wrong...please do tell.

Offline MrMatrix

It's not vanilla because of me.  I suggest things all the time to spice things up and she looks at me like I'm a pervert or something or just laughs.  I've been spoiled a bit in other relationships and experienced lots of different things so there's nothing I'm eager to try but I just want things to be more frequent.    I'm sick of dropping hints that I'm not happy with this side of our relationship which has driven me here really.   Our sex life is all about me pleasuring her which I don't really mind to be honest .   I rarely ever get a blow job,  she'll sometime pay it a bit of lip service but she wouldn't follow it all the way through.  I do adore the woman but with each 'headache' or whatever the excuse was that day I just started to get more and more resentful and started to become a bit of a cunt towards her which is really not like me.  I wouldn't be interested in an affair.   I struggle having time for the life I've got never mind bringing somebody else into the equation.

I'm sorry but what is EAS?
EAS stands for Escort Attachment Syndrome. Believe you me its easy to get snagged up on this and dont lose sight of the fact a WG is only interested in your money- not a relationship, which is where you can go wrong with EAS.
I think Tantric Talents comments is on the money here James. You could fuck up a good marriage here. I did suggest to my OH some years ago about having a fuck buddy, but at least I was open about it. She didnt like the idea, but I had lost interest by then. The suggestion may make your OH think, she should put out more. It would certainly open up an honest dialogue, but equally it could send out the wrong message - its a difficult one.
An affair would add complications that ultimately would destroy what you have - you dont want this. Neither did I , hence I started punting. I'm 20 years ahead of you, I dont want to see you facing the connundrum that I have been in for over 20 years. Alternatively there is counselling. Or you could show her the link from item 1 of this thread. Tell her your frustrated, lay it on the line, before you make any rash decisions. Consider what TT said. Turning punter from your marital position is a big decision. Be interested to see what you do.. :hi:

Offline MrMatrix

Thankyou for the welcome Matrix , and thankyou for the sound advice , I was expecting any advice to be pro punt so it was a spanner in the works that has made be re-evaluate .....to stall me further this afternoon I took advantage of the january sales and bought myself a few toys from lovehoney  :drinks: these will have to be my little secret and hopefully they will be enough fun to stop me taking this anyfurther ...Ive never heard of anyone getting a divorce because they got caught with a plastic pussy so hey ho  :thumbsup:
Neither have I. But she aint going to be pleased if she finds it in your wash bag either. :D :D
Out of interest how much was is it and is it any good at what its suppose to do. :unknown:

Punter115

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Hope ur toys work but if I was u go for a massage and if you want h/r ...just try it and see what u think ....no harm done ...better than a bit of plastic and beleive me if she ever finds out about the plastic she will be terribly upset and will question her relationship with u !

James JJ

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EAS stands for Escort Attachment Syndrome. Believe you me its easy to get snagged up on this and dont lose sight of the fact a WG is only interested in your money- not a relationship, which is where you can go wrong with EAS.
I think Tantric Talents comments is on the money here James. You could fuck up a good marriage here. I did suggest to my OH some years ago about having a fuck buddy, but at least I was open about it. She didnt like the idea, but I had lost interest by then. The suggestion may make your OH think, she should put out more. It would certainly open up an honest dialogue, but equally it could send out the wrong message - its a difficult one.
An affair would add complications that ultimately would destroy what you have - you dont want this. Neither did I , hence I started punting. I'm 20 years ahead of you, I dont want to see you facing the connundrum that I have been in for over 20 years. Alternatively there is counselling. Or you could show her the link from item 1 of this thread. Tell her your frustrated, lay it on the line, before you make any rash decisions. Consider what TT said. Turning punter from your marital position is a big decision. Be interested to see what you do.. :hi:

Thanks for the advice,  much appreciated.   I've actually already taken my first tentative steps.   After thinking about it for a long time and failing to secure a booking on a couple of occasions I finally went through with my first one.   The girl was fantastic but my anxiety about what I was doing ruined it for me really.   Tried again with a Romanian in Manchester a week or so later,  it was shit.   I felt guilty as fuck afterwards.   Just this last week I went to see the first one again and really enjoyed it and felt really happy afterwards.   I'd contacted her before I went and discussed my situation and what I was looking for and she was very understanding and delivered the goods.   We agreed that I was going to see her on a fairly regular basis.  I chose this rather than just going for a random girl each time as I know she is clean and takes care of herself. 
She has a boyfriend as well so wouldn't do anything too risky so it should minimize the chance of me picking something nasty up.  She'll also know exactly what I want.    I also know though that seeing her regularly I could be creating a problem with EAS further down the line.   I've just got to trust myself with this and try and spot any signs.  I'm not an emotionally needy person really so hopefully that should see me through.  I'm under no illusion that this is business but obviously we're human beings and sometimes things happen that we don't necessarily expect so I'd just have to be aware as things progress.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 08:47:29 pm by James JJ »

Offline MrMatrix

Thanks for the advice,  much appreciated.   I've actually already taken my first tentative steps.   After thinking about it for a long time and failing to secure a booking on a couple of occasions I finally went through with my first one.   The girl was fantastic but my anxiety about what I was doing ruined it for me really.   Tried again with a Romanian in Manchester a week or so later,  it was shit.   I felt guilty as fuck afterwards.   Just this last week I went to see the first one again and really enjoyed it and felt really happy afterwards.   I'd contacted her before I went and discussed my situation and what I was looking for and she was very understanding and delivered the goods.   We agreed that I was going to see her on a fairly regular basis.  I chose this rather than just going for a random girl each time as I know she is clean and takes care of herself. 
She has a boyfriend as well so wouldn't do anything too risky so it should minimize the chance of me picking something nasty up.  She'll also know exactly what I want.    I also know though that seeing her regularly I could be creating a problem with EAS further down the line.   I've just got to trust myself with this and try and spot any signs.  I'm not an emotionally needy person really so hopefully that should see me through.  I'm under no illusion that this is business but obviously we're human beings and sometimes things happen that we don't necessarily expect so I'd just have to be aware as things progress.
Sounds pretty much the same as my first, anxiety got in the way. Difference is you have regular sex at home still -  at the end of the day James its your call. Make sure you take all the necessary precautions then- ONLY use a punting phone and keep it secure. Still think you should be sure before making a career of this as things wont be quite the same plus GUM clinic visit once a year. Its a very addictive hobby as you will find out. Be interested in seeing your reviews James. Best of luck.

James JJ

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Sounds pretty much the same as my first, anxiety got in the way. Difference is you have regular sex but at the end of the day James its your call. Make sure you take all the necessary precautions then- ONLY use a punting phone and keep it secure. Still think you should be sure before making a career of this as things wont be quite the same plus GUM clinic visit once a year. Its a very addictive hobby as you will find out. Be interested in seeing your reviews James. Best of luck.

Thanks to this forum I sorted the punting phone out a while before I started and I'll take your advice on the clinic.   You've also inspired me to review the girl I have started to see.  I decided to review the Romanian pretty much straight after because I felt obliged to as I felt it was a waste of money.   The other has nothing but positive reviews,  loads of them,  but it's probably right that I do one for her.   My first two meets haven't quite gone to plan so I wanted to wait until I'd met her without any problems (from my end)  but that's no reason really because she's been fantastic on both occasions.   I'll probably get it done on Tuesday so keep an eye out if you are interested.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2018, 05:20:47 am by James JJ »

Offline bazwelsh

Neither have I. But she aint going to be pleased if she finds it in your wash bag either. :D :D
Out of interest how much was is it and is it any good at what its suppose to do. :unknown:

Ha lol the wash basket or the kitchen sink would be safest place in our house she's useless at domestic chores lol (modern woman).

Well as its the DT experience i crave i got this blow job toy for 50 quid which has a nose mouth lips and a tongue , its even got teeth which i hope dont get in the way , ive never had a sex toy for myself before so i cant wait ...the misses is used to parcels coming for my work so she will take delivery and think nothing of it but to be honest ive been thinking of just whipping it out in the bedroom one day when im using her toy on her ....see if the double standards argument will save me from a smack around the head   :wacko:

Offline tantric talents

Well as its the DT experience i crave i got this blow job toy for 50 quid which has a nose mouth lips and a tongue , its even got teeth which i hope dont get in the way ,
Teeth! Yikes  :scare:
I’d get over to your local friendly dentist and get them pulled right away  :lol: :lol:

Offline MrMatrix

Teeth! Yikes  :scare:
I’d get over to your local friendly dentist and get them pulled right away  :lol: :lol:
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Offline bazwelsh

Teeth! Yikes  :scare:
I’d get over to your local friendly dentist and get them pulled right away  :lol: :lol:

dont worry if it bites me Ill knock its teeth out myself lol  ......it hasn't been delivered yet but I will review it on here ,  :dance:

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Offline Spacecowb0y

Properly pissed off now. :dash:

Sitting having a laugh and a coffee with the wife,she looks fantastic in a new jumper,so i compliment her. Youngest is due home any second,so no chance of trying anything on with her.
Ask when or if she fancies some "ladies & gentlemen action",as it's been 7 weeks since we have had ANY physical contact.
You would think she had been asked to give me a blow job standing in front of Harrods.
Face drops, blah blah blah ...
"It's my body'
"It happens when it happens"
"I'm not a piece of meat"  :manhater:

She's popped out for 10 mins to pick up some basics from Waitrose, and i feel even more deflated than before!!!!  :dash:

Roll on Friday, day off.


 Fuck taking her to Bicester for shopping. I'm going whoring!  :angry:

Offline MrMatrix

Properly pissed off now. :dash:

Sitting having a laugh and a coffee with the wife,she looks fantastic in a new jumper,so i compliment her. Youngest is due home any second,so no chance of trying anything on with her.
Ask when or if she fancies some "ladies & gentlemen action",as it's been 7 weeks since we have had ANY physical contact.
You would think she had been asked to give me a blow job standing in front of Harrods.
Face drops, blah blah blah ...
"It's my body'
"It happens when it happens"
"I'm not a piece of meat"  :manhater:

She's popped out for 10 mins to pick up some basics from Waitrose, and i feel even more deflated than before!!!!  :dash:
Roll on Friday, day off.
 Fuck taking her to Bicester for shopping. I'm going whoring!  :angry:

What sort of comment is that      "It's my body'        "It happens when it happens"       "I'm not a piece of meat"

My reply so you wouldnt mind if I go and have a piece of meat else where then.  :unknown:
Like you, I'd of gone and done my type of shopping as well. Sod Bicester Village. Trouble is she could end up spending more there than your type of shopping :hi:

Offline Sisterwinter

I do wonder whether the recent "scandals" concerning male sexual harassment on women in parts of society, will just result in more negative attitudes by the OH and allegations of domestic hounding for sex within households in the UK.

I have never sexually harassed a woman in my life, or made any unwanted sexual overtures (I think!) but I sense females are getting a sense of empowerment which is trickling down to the bedrooms - so we will see more of the "it's my body" and "men are only after one thing" sort of response.

It's certainly not going to help matters, and may well fracture even more relationships on the thorny issue of sex.


Offline threechilliman

My reply so you wouldnt mind if I go and have a piece of meat else where then.  :unknown:

Pretty much what I said to my OH. Amazing how shes improved since with a much more extensive likes list.

Offline MrMatrix

I do wonder whether the recent "scandals" concerning male sexual harassment on women in parts of society, will just result in more negative attitudes by the OH and allegations of domestic hounding for sex within households in the UK.

I have never sexually harassed a woman in my life, or made any unwanted sexual overtures (I think!) but I sense females are getting a sense of empowerment which is trickling down to the bedrooms - so we will see more of the "it's my body" and "men are only after one thing" sort of response.

It's certainly not going to help matters, and may well fracture even more relationships on the thorny issue of sex.
You would assume that your wife married you because she loves you and wants you...physically as well. You only have to look at the dozens of similar threads that this is nothing to do with empowerment. If she doesnt want sex and is quoting empowerment then shes just empowered me to look else where. They cant have the cake and halfpenny, but in marriage it seems to me they try to and often succeed. We should both be able to fulfil our selves in a happy and successful relationship. :hi:

Offline Marmalade

If she doesnt want sex and is quoting empowerment then shes just empowered me to look else where.

Well stated. Though it’s unfortunate that many married men need it spelt out.

Consensual sex is about mutually wanting to have sex. Whether it’s (the prospect of ) a promise to pay off a mortgage, a poem, kisses and cuddles or an £80 half-hour fee.

If a woman doesn’t want sex with someone she may (if one is lucky) still be an interesting wit, a housekeeper, a helper for one’s life aims or any number of things. Or a leech and a headache.

None of the things in the first category necessarily involve sex if they are mutually fulfilling. But you’re not her social worker, counsellor, charity hand-out person, and you are not contracted in any way other than by whatever relevant laws that it is more hassle than it’s worth to ignore having dug yourself in that far. She’s just another human being that you feel you “know quite well” and lives in the same fucking house and possibly makes you feel responsible for whatever children she happens to Have spawned. (Bear in mind that most people who get divorced realise they “never really knew what she was really like” even after long marriages. Talk about EA-bloody-S!)

The best way to look at it is with the unemotional logic of an accountant assessing double returns and forecasts. That requires a sense of one’s own identity — something that it is so intrinsically entwined to one having sex that fucking a few “others” may even help the married man — the one no longer in a state of mutual honeymoon bliss — to regain it.

Once the balance sheet has been minutely assessed then one can, should there be mutual inclination, go into pheromone mode and be the hot, charming, sexual male.

It’s no different to dealing with prossies in that respect: think with the brain before thinking with cock.  :cool: :cool:

Offline MaxDeane


If a woman doesn’t want sex with someone she may (if one is lucky) still be an interesting wit, a housekeeper, a helper for one’s life aims or any number of things. Or a leech and a headache.

Once the balance sheet has been minutely assessed then one can, should there be mutual inclination, go into pheromone mode and be the hot, charming, sexual male.


This is exactly where I was, and then exactly where I've found myself.

The balance sheet has been filling itself out over the last 4-years, and the OH was found to be seriously in the Red.

Decree Nisi now issued, be free and clear in the next couple of months.

Offline Spacecowb0y

We have been living in a tense atmosphere for 2 days. Today is better as i have started talking to her. Thank goodness the kids are off to college and uni most of the time. The subject will inevitibly come up again and soon.
Simply going to state, if she doesn't want sex any longer,then fine, that's her decision, but I am looking outside the marriage from now on.
Don't really care who she tells. Fed up with this nonsense
« Last Edit: January 25, 2018, 10:33:05 pm by Spacecowb0y »

Offline MrMatrix

We have been living in a tense atmosphere for 2 days. Today is better as i have started talking to her. Thank goodness the kids are off to college and uni most of the time. The subject will inevitibly come up again and soon.
Simply going to state, if she doesn't want sex any longer,then fine, that's her decision, but I am looking outside the marriage from now on.
Don't really care who she tells. Fed up with this nonsense
I suggested to my OH a fuck buddy. She said I'd tell every body- I wouldnt but more importantly she didnt say no. I consider that the green light to go and sort my self out providing I'm descrete.
Spacecowboy- I look forward to hear how the conversation pans out. Best of luck. :hi:

Offline Punterenas

MrMatrix, are you me? Our situations and past struggles with our OHs are so similar it's scary!

Offline MrMatrix

MrMatrix, are you me? Our situations and past struggles with our OHs are so similar it's scary!
Our situation is so common Punterenas, it is scarey. Our struggles are universal and I will never understand how someone can treat someone they love with such disregard.
There are so many of us in the same/ similar boat- every one in this thread has a similar story. Yes I could be you. Regards. MM :hi:

Offline Happylad

I`ve only just seen this thread by following a link from a later one.

 I was very happily married for slightly over 50 years, and my wife enjoyed sex as much as I did - indeed on a few (fortunately rare) occasions when work problems spoiled my sexual appetite she did everything she could to revive me; when she had her periods I had choice of a blow job or anal (which she also enjoyed), and our sex life continued to within 2 months of her death from lung cancer by which time we were both 77 years old.

Needless to say, I never had the slightest desire for sex outside my marriage, and it was not until 6 months after her death that I decided to try a punt.  In the 11 years since then I have seen, and enjoyed, many wgs, and the best of these became regulars lasting for several years - including my present one, but good as these girls have been there has never been one with whom sex was as good as it was with my wife, and I am convinced that sex given for cash simply can`t compare with sex with a women who is doing it for pleasure and both wants it and likes it as much as I do.

I have every sympathy with all you blokes who have joyless marriages, and in your circumstances I`m sure that I`d have done the same as you.


Offline tantric talents

I`ve only just seen this thread by following a link from a later one.

 I was very happily married for slightly over 50 years, and my wife enjoyed sex as much as I did - indeed on a few (fortunately rare) occasions when work problems spoiled my sexual appetite she did everything she could to revive me; when she had her periods I had choice of a blow job or anal (which she also enjoyed), and our sex life continued to within 2 months of her death from lung cancer by which time we were both 77 years old.

Needless to say, I never had the slightest desire for sex outside my marriage, and it was not until 6 months after her death that I decided to try a punt.  In the 11 years since then I have seen, and enjoyed, many wgs, and the best of these became regulars lasting for several years - including my present one, but good as these girls have been there has never been one with whom sex was as good as it was with my wife, and I am convinced that sex given for cash simply can`t compare with sex with a women who is doing it for pleasure and both wants it and likes it as much as I do.

I have every sympathy with all you blokes who have joyless marriages, and in your circumstances I`m sure that I`d have done the same as you.
50 years of great sex with a life partner!
Hats off to you sir  :hi:

Offline charger70

This is an interesting thread, as I can relate to so many of the comments here. I have chosen not to confront the lack of  interest from the OH, it’s simply not worth the argument.  However, I have punted. With s dozen or so WG’S and have now settled into a regular, who is what I would describe as a swinger, who I pay. As described above , sex with her is something completely different from my other punts, and I think it’s due to her engagement and desire for the event,  and a little “connection “
This has made me realise that I am probably looking for more than straight sex, which is what I was looking for when I took up punting.  However, in every other aspect of our relationship, I am very happy with the OH.I guess it’s only a natural thing that females lose interest in sex once the breeding cycle has delivered.
I look forward to the day when I to lose interest in sex, and am happy with the vanilla boring existence that looms  ahead!

Offline MrMatrix

I`ve only just seen this thread by following a link from a later one.

 I was very happily married for slightly over 50 years, and my wife enjoyed sex as much as I did - indeed on a few (fortunately rare) occasions when work problems spoiled my sexual appetite she did everything she could to revive me; when she had her periods I had choice of a blow job or anal (which she also enjoyed), and our sex life continued to within 2 months of her death from lung cancer by which time we were both 77 years old.

Needless to say, I never had the slightest desire for sex outside my marriage, and it was not until 6 months after her death that I decided to try a punt.  In the 11 years since then I have seen, and enjoyed, many wgs, and the best of these became regulars lasting for several years - including my present one, but good as these girls have been there has never been one with whom sex was as good as it was with my wife, and I am convinced that sex given for cash simply can`t compare with sex with a women who is doing it for pleasure and both wants it and likes it as much as I do.

I have every sympathy with all you blokes who have joyless marriages, and in your circumstances I`m sure that I`d have done the same as you.
Happy lad, sorry to hear about the demise of your OH even if it was 11 years ago. In the 50 years of marriage you have acheived to what I would like to have aspired to.
I agree entirely with your sentiments that sex with a loving OH is the best of the lot.
I hope I'm still punting at 88, cos I wont be getting it from any where else.  :hi:

Offline Spacecowb0y

What happylad descibes is something we all wished for on our married journeys. Unfortunately most here have realised we will never have that true connection, in mind and body, instead we limp along in unfulfilled co-inhabitance.
Before kids came along, many should have walked,but it's too late now... I don't fancy setting up home alone (or new girlfriend),in my 50's.

A 50 year marriage full of love,spice and sex is a wonderful story,I wish you well  :hi:
« Last Edit: February 03, 2018, 05:54:51 pm by Spacecowb0y »

Autopunter

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I feel for a lot of the guys here stuck in dead bedrooms... but as a single guy, punting can also make you lazy.

A slightly terrifying revelation for me over the last two years was that prossies were much better in bed than the (few, oh so few) civvy girls I was able to land in bed in my "prime" (Am heading towards my mid-30s, so no, not totally past it, but let's be honest, it won't get any better from here on in). One girl I hooked up was against giving blow jobs, though she was perfectly happy for me to go down on her; she was surprised when I said I didn't want a relationship with her, but honestly, the prospect of no oral sex for forty years was a deal-breaker right off the bat.

These days when I think about dating (not for sex, but just to meet someone), I get this sensation of total weariness at the prospect of being made to dance like a monkey just to get something I can have better (and frequently more cheaply in terms of £££ and time/energy) from a pro. And frankly I don't think I'm ready yet to give hawt ball-slapping sex with a variety of women (not all of them 20something svelte supermodels either) just to have someone to talk about my day with.

I strongly suspect that if it hadn't of been for the other reasons I went into P4P at 22, I would have been one of those guys who stumbles through life not having much luck with women, grabbed the first partner who looked like she'd take me with both hands, and then after 20 years together with no-to-little duty sex, stumbled onto the pro scene either pre- or post-divorce. Whether it was better to do it beforehand and try to find some woman who will tolerate my whoring ways ( :unknown:), or if it will all come out and ruin my life before I ever marry, is something I don't know at present. Either way, I can't help but think that sometimes it would have been better to get the kids out of the way first before discovering the joys of professional sex workers.




Offline RogerBoner

(Am heading towards my mid-30s, so no, not totally past it, but let's be honest, it won't get any better from here on in).
If you're just heading towards your mid-thirties then you are still in your prime and should be able to date women between 25-40 years old. You think that you're getting old but you are still a young man. I wouldn't punt if I was in loving and sexual relationship. Past your prime is 45+ depending on physique and hair loss. Oh yes, and virility.

Offline threechilliman

I`ve only just seen this thread by following a link from a later one.

 I was very happily married for slightly over 50 years, and my wife enjoyed sex as much as I did - indeed on a few (fortunately rare) occasions when work problems spoiled my sexual appetite she did everything she could to revive me; when she had her periods I had choice of a blow job or anal (which she also enjoyed), and our sex life continued to within 2 months of her death from lung cancer by which time we were both 77 years old.

Needless to say, I never had the slightest desire for sex outside my marriage, and it was not until 6 months after her death that I decided to try a punt.  In the 11 years since then I have seen, and enjoyed, many wgs, and the best of these became regulars lasting for several years - including my present one, but good as these girls have been there has never been one with whom sex was as good as it was with my wife, and I am convinced that sex given for cash simply can`t compare with sex with a women who is doing it for pleasure and both wants it and likes it as much as I do.

I have every sympathy with all you blokes who have joyless marriages, and in your circumstances I`m sure that I`d have done the same as you.

You certainly know how to enjoy yourself. Keep it up fella :hi:

Offline Punterenas

I currently have a regular who is really more like a FB.
Shes part time and does it as much for the sex as the money.
Last time we met we were all over each other as soon as the door closed.
The meet was supposed to be an hour but I ended up staying for almost 2.
Between rounds we lay there naked on the bed just chatting about our lives and cuddling.
I remember doing similar with the OH in the early days of my marriage.
Women think its about pure, selfish lust, the mans desire to stick his dick into anything that moves and it just isn't, its about affection, intimacy, about being there with another person, your naked self, not about PIV sex (as feminists and Mumsnetters love to call it).
This what I don't get.
Doesn't my wife miss it, does she think its not important? Does she think I'm going to live like a monk with no explanantion? Sometimes it makes me resentful, so I avoid her and plan my next meet.
A couple we know split recently over this issue, it was messy and acrimonious, apparenly to avoid giving his wife a free house the guy stopped paying the mortgage and used the money for the deposit on a place for him and his girlfriend, the wife ended up with nothing and the whole thing went right over my wifes head!
Whenever I try and bring it up she becomes ultra defensive, so I stopped trying. I think she does her best in every other aspect of our relationship but you can see her making the mental calculations throughout the day "Did the ironing, cooked dinner, he can't possibly pester me for sex now".
I have posted on here about post punt depression, part of that is definitely the feeling after a great meet that things shouldn't have to be this way, that it should be me and her enjoying the post fuck glow together and it breaks my heart sometimes to come home to the same old same old.
My wife told me once how she didn't want to end up in the same relationship as her parents. Other than, unlike her hen pecked old man, I have the balls to go out and have fun I can't see the difference.
Rant over.

Punterenas

Offline DOUGLAS56

I`ve only just seen this thread by following a link from a later one.

 I was very happily married for slightly over 50 years, and my wife enjoyed sex as much as I did - indeed on a few (fortunately rare) occasions when work problems spoiled my sexual appetite she did everything she could to revive me; when she had her periods I had choice of a blow job or anal (which she also enjoyed), and our sex life continued to within 2 months of her death from lung cancer by which time we were both 77 years old.

Needless to say, I never had the slightest desire for sex outside my marriage, and it was not until 6 months after her death that I decided to try a punt.  In the 11 years since then I have seen, and enjoyed, many wgs, and the best of these became regulars lasting for several years - including my present one, but good as these girls have been there has never been one with whom sex was as good as it was with my wife, and I am convinced that sex given for cash simply can`t compare with sex with a women who is doing it for pleasure and both wants it and likes it as much as I do.

I have every sympathy with all you blokes who have joyless marriages, and in your circumstances I`m sure that I`d have done the same as you.


Hats off to you Sir and sorry about your loss. Could I please ask you what you think stopped your wife from withholding sex and what you done differently. would love to learn how you did it

Offline Happylad


Hats off to you Sir and sorry about your loss. Could I please ask you what you think stopped your wife from withholding sex and what you done differently. would love to learn how you did it

Difficult to explain, but we were very much in love, and long before we married we were experimenting with sex - indeed it was she who took her own virginity when, after a session of manual and oral titillation she pushed me onto my back, and carefully lowered herself onto my cock and pushed herself down - I`ll never forget the look of surprise on her face at first, followed after a few minutes of complete stillness by a big grin as she began to enjoy the feeling; I had no johnny on and had to lift her off, but after that we never looked back.

We were both keen to experiment and I think we tried everything.  She didn`t like condoms, and got herself female contraception, so all our sex was bareback because she particularly like to feel me cum inside her (I ALWAYS made sure she came first), and when we did 69 it was always `suck and swallow`.  After about 20 years I found a very instructive book on anal sex and left it for her to read, and on her next period, instead of the usual blow job she produced a jar of vaseline and suggested we tried `the other way` - not very successful at first but with much careful trying we got the hang of it, I was able to make her cum every time and she thoroughly enjoyed it as much as I did and we invariably used it during her periods.  When she wanted sex she knew how to get me roused and did so. After the menopause, with no further risk of pregnancy all caution was thrown to the winds, we would spend a couple of whole afternoons every week in bed enjoying each other, and she always expected to finish by riding me to 2 or 3 orgasms every time - the last time just a couple of months before she died.

I can only say that if your wife starts out liking sex and then goes off it you must be doing something sadly wrong

Offline Happylad

I should also have added (adverting to some earlier posts) that I punt a full 60 years below my age - late 20s being the current one, and not `proper` wg, but an amateur just after a bit of extra spending money - she cums like a jackhammer and enjoys an oral orgasm before the fuck and another one to finish up, so I guess she must be enjoying it as well, but it`s not the same.

Offline MrMatrix

I should also have added (adverting to some earlier posts) that I punt a full 60 years below my age - late 20s being the current one, and not `proper` wg, but an amateur just after a bit of extra spending money - she cums like a jackhammer and enjoys an oral orgasm before the fuck and another one to finish up, so I guess she must be enjoying it as well, but it`s not the same.

88 and your still bringing some one in their 20s off. Rock on Happylad.  :hi:

Offline Mr_Shins

Oh well, my partner says she is staying with a (female) friend this whole weekend, but tonight she posted a photo of herself in her own house, and who took the photo? I know most likely - and she's all dressed up.

Still 2 can play that game as I was out having it off with Melysa69Blash...

Maybe we are made for each other. Or probably not so we both seek pleasure elsewhere..

Offline DOUGLAS56

Difficult to explain, but we were very much in love, and long before we married we were experimenting with sex - indeed it was she who took her own virginity when, after a session of manual and oral titillation she pushed me onto my back, and carefully lowered herself onto my cock and pushed herself down - I`ll never forget the look of surprise on her face at first, followed after a few minutes of complete stillness by a big grin as she began to enjoy the feeling; I had no johnny on and had to lift her off, but after that we never looked back.

We were both keen to experiment and I think we tried everything.  She didn`t like condoms, and got herself female contraception, so all our sex was bareback because she particularly like to feel me cum inside her (I ALWAYS made sure she came first), and when we did 69 it was always `suck and swallow`.  After about 20 years I found a very instructive book on anal sex and left it for her to read, and on her next period, instead of the usual blow job she produced a jar of vaseline and suggested we tried `the other way` - not very successful at first but with much careful trying we got the hang of it, I was able to make her cum every time and she thoroughly enjoyed it as much as I did and we invariably used it during her periods.  When she wanted sex she knew how to get me roused and did so. After the menopause, with no further risk of pregnancy all caution was thrown to the winds, we would spend a couple of whole afternoons every week in bed enjoying each other, and she always expected to finish by riding me to 2 or 3 orgasms every time - the last time just a couple of months before she died.

I can only say that if your wife starts out liking sex and then goes off it you must be doing something sadly wrong


Noted Sir, Thank you

Offline DOUGLAS56

@ Autopunter "These days when I think about dating (not for sex, but just to meet someone), I get this sensation of total weariness at the prospect of being made to dance like a monkey"


This is  how I feel too except i dont think about the better sex from wg. Because the emotionally connection is not the same for me. But still not going to dance around because of the abundance mentality I am beginning to cultivate. 
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