Golden Days of Punting are they gone ?

[GreyDave]

  Just been sending a little PM to my Uncle Steve who along with AW UKpunting the Sport , Soho walk ups and phone box cards though the years has been a great help in my punting life of various fantasical experiances..from MMF `s Parties team tags  Bukkakes and loads of other things. I thanked him for some of the times I had been at events with him and great WG`s ..he gave as usall the best simple reply to my long winded PM;

                                 Golden Times Mate 

I reckon we on here in the UK have been so lucky with the amazing variety we have been able to shag for the last 20 years ....

Your thoughts Gentlemen  (not you Jimmy Red cab your a cabbie with opioins  ) 

[christofferson]

Very few could resist the temptation of the filthy lucre, once things settle.
So no, the oldest profession will remain...only my view.

[Mr Sinister]

Looking at it now from when it started I feel for me it kinda has. Tons of Poles and Hungarians on offer a great variety of girls some real hidden gems could be found. Rarely get that now most of the poles have gone home replaced by Roms everytime I do a search just see the same faces no one really stands out for me, it's basically why I've taken a break. The 'urge' is no longer there.

[wombat42]

Looking at it now from when it started I feel for me it kinda has. Tons of Poles and Hungarians on offer a great variety of girls some real hidden gems could be found. Rarely get that now most of the poles have gone home replaced by Roms everytime I do a search just see the same faces no one really stands out for me, it's basically why I've taken a break. The 'urge' is no longer there.

Stamp collecting is the new punting. Anybody got any penny blacks ? 

[willie loman]

If there is a serious world recession, it will actually be a new golden age, for those who have money, which in fact will be the majority who post on uk punting, it will be like the breakup of eastern Europe, when apparently you could shag a girl with a phd for 50 p, or Thailand in the early 60s, germany after world war 11, when you could get a shag for a bar of choclate,There will be loads of girls without any money, and girls always want expensive crap, its in their dna.

[Handel2020]

Looking at it now from when it started I feel for me it kinda has. Tons of Poles and Hungarians on offer a great variety of girls some real hidden gems could be found. Rarely get that now most of the poles have gone home replaced by Roms everytime I do a search just see the same faces no one really stands out for me, it's basically why I've taken a break. The 'urge' is no longer there.

I agree with this, but then it is all a matter of opinion. Some guys will see the Romanians and the choice they have had recently as a golden era. For me the Poles and Hungarians I seen were preferable. I just wasn't punting enough or wasn't good at finding them. I seen a few good poles, Hungarians, Czechs and Brazilians at LMP parties, but apart from that the golden era for me was back in the 90s with Italian, Spanish, English etc.

[Mr Sinister]

I agree with this, but then it is all a matter of opinion. Some guys will see the Romanians and the choice they have had recently as a golden era. For me the Poles and Hungarians I seen were preferable. I just wasn't punting enough or wasn't good at finding them. I seen a few good poles, Hungarians, Czechs and Brazilians at LMP parties, but apart from that the golden era for me was back in the 90s with Italian, Spanish, English etc.

I started about 10 years ago, I got into punting as I had a big boob fetish from upwards of 5 years I filled my boots in London. The girls were very easy to come across, great value for money. My tastes have changed but I still like to have a look what's on offer and when I do there's nothing there just a bunch of overpriced English/Touring girls not much else in that category. This is my experience.

[Payyourwaymate]

I don't understand, what was the difference between then and now?

Was it mainly the price? level of service? Or variety?

I was not around during the golden times. Surely the only thing that has changed is affordability? I would be surprised if punters that have ££££ are not having wonderful times if they know where to go.

[Handel2020]

I don't understand, what was the difference between then and now?

Was it mainly the price? level of service? Or variety?

I was not around during the golden times. Surely the only thing that has changed is affordability? I would be surprised if punters that have ££££ are not having wonderful times if they know where to go.

I think a wonderful time is all subjective but for variety I think there are less decent looking English girls and Italian / Spanish types I seen in the 90s. If the English girls are hot it seems they will be charging more / camming and good luck to them because I would probably make the same choice in their shoes. There is value out there depending on what you think is good value.

[Malvolio]

I've never understood the fixation with nationality - if a WG is good, I don't care what country she comes from.

[Billy the kid]

I don't understand, what was the difference between then and now?

Was it mainly the price? level of service? Or variety?

I was not around during the golden times. Surely the only thing that has changed is affordability? I would be surprised if punters that have ££££ are not having wonderful times if they know where to go.

A good point made.
When are ‘the golden times’ supposed to be and why?
I only started about 4 years ago - so the last 4 have been pretty golden In my journey of what’s out there, what I like and where best to find it. As with everything it depends on who / what you are looking for so I’m not sure when you are asking about?

Surely the internet and some of the sites we all use have offered something more - certainly in the way of choice and knowledge?

[willie loman]

I've never understood the fixation with nationality - if a WG is good, I don't care what country she comes from.

Nor does anyone I imagine, but certain cultures have a more relaxed attitude to sex, and a greater respect to giving value for money, as a general rule you are more likely to have a decent time with germans, and north European,the complaints against the Romanians is provoked by their utter contempt for their customers, not all , but as often as not.
Thais are fine, usually service wise, but I prefer the Caucasian look.

[John Johnson]

As the lockdown eases and finances are ever tighter there will be rental-flange by the bucketfull. If you have ever paid attention there is always a surge of new accounts in January/February when women are looking for a quick buck to pay off the Christmas credit card bill. Post lockdown those that are working will be up to their gills in decent quality, reasonably price clart; you can already see them creeping back out via "available today" on AW.

[Steve2]

Thanks Dave 

I think that as far as the parties were concerned , it was the attraction of getting so many young (and not so young ) English girls to attend

Some of the good ones were Sandie Caine, Keira Pharrell, Emma Butt, Nikita Devine, Juicy Jo, Mellons Marie (as a 19 yr old newbie ), Lady Tiffany, Lady Bukkake and so many more.

I will try and do a comprehensive list at some point

[mr.bluesky]

When I first started punting it was mainly massage parlours  ( the full service sort not the rub and tug places of today) all of these were staffed by mainly British girls with at least 4 or 5 to choose from on each shift and adultwork and viva street were unheard of. Better days in my opinion. Used to visit these on a regular basis .

[MilleMiglia]

When I first started punting it was mainly massage parlours  ( the full service sort not the rub and tug places of today) all of these were staffed by mainly British girls with at least 4 or 5 to choose from on each shift and adultwork and viva street were unheard of. Better days in my opinion. Used to visit these on a regular basis .

Similar for myself, and I also did well from the small ads in the local free papers.

[smiths]

Thanks Dave 

I think that as far as the parties were concerned , it was the attraction of getting so many young (and not so young ) English girls to attend

Some of the good ones were Sandie Caine, Keira Pharrell, Emma Butt, Nikita Devine, Juicy Jo, Mellons Marie (as a 19 yr old newbie ), Lady Tiffany, Lady Bukkake and so many more.

I will try and do a comprehensive list at some point

Keira Pharrell was excellent when I punted 121 and at Kens Desire Parties, and at 1 of those parties of his which cost £100 for 4 hours based in a nice flat in Canada Water there was only 2 of us punters their and the other bloke left well early leaving me with Keira and another WG for most of the 4 hours. Great for me and I filled my boots, terrible for the WGs. I punted with Lady Tiffany at LMP where she was an excellent party WG, she went onto the porno heights of doing scat films.

My punting golden days were 2007-12 or so, many good WGs in my area, you punted with at least some of them yourself. WGs like Cute Ann in Golders Green based in the slip road behind the high street with the black staircase you had to climb to get to her door. She then moved to Temple Fortune nearby. Also in that brothel was Veronica who initially was fantastic and about 6 other good WGs in their at the time I punted with. Another brothel in the same slip road as well with a few good WGs. Veronica charged £80 an hour back then, Cute Ann started out at £90 an hour then put it up to £110 an hour. Also back then in Herts there were fantastic WGs like Natasha, Jaime, Louise and Shanelle, also Naughty Holly who I always got good service off of but some punters didn't rate her, she was a genuine 19 year old back then, I know because when I first met her I was about to walk as she looked about 15 to me so she said I can show you photo ID that I am 19 which she did. She was originally a redcab find as was another WG whose name I cant recall now but was based in Hemel Hempstead, another young English WG. Also another total stunner in Stevenage whose name I cant recall who was a Brit, she was great but only about during the summer holidays in 2008, she said she was starting Uni that September. When I first punted with her she was so good I asked to extend by another hour but she said she was booked up but could do the hour afterwards. So I fucked off and came back then for another hour.

There were definitely more good WGs around then than nowadays although there were pre-virus fortunately still some good WGs about from Katalina and Andreea and yes both worked during this virus which they shouldn't of at £90 an hour, Polish Kora at £100 an hour, Renata at £130 an hour and Kandyfun and the excellent Khloe in Colindale both at £140 an hour. Kora being the best of the lot for me though apart from Kandy who is no looker the least attractive facially. Attitude, intensity of services offered have rarely been bettered in my experiences, Kora was also the youngest, I think just slightly younger than Andreea. IF she returns and is back in time post-virus in an area good for me she will be the first WG I book. Kat having the best body, gym fit with a near six-pack stomach, Renata facially very attractive as well as having a lithe size 6 body.

[Pennine Rover]

I've been putting since pre internet and there are more girls available now but perhaps not the quality.  I reckon that prices have barely changed in most parts of the UK and perhaps in London they have dropped due to over supply. If you take a long established agency like Prestige in Newcastle then their fees are the same as in the 90s.

[smiths]

I've been putting since pre internet and there are more girls available now but perhaps not the quality.  I reckon that prices have barely changed in most parts of the UK and perhaps in London they have dropped due to over supply. If you take a long established agency like Prestige in Newcastle then their fees are the same as in the 90s.

Yes more WGs advertising on A/W now than say 10 years ago but many more low lifes than back then in my experiences.

As to prices overall allowing for inflation I am paying the same as 10 maybe even 15 years ago on average, but many EE WGs have put their prices up as have most Brit WGs in my area of London. And certainly pimp agency prices in London have gone up as have old style parlour prices. But 10-12 years ago as I posted above I was punting with good WGs at £80 and £90 an hour, before this virus hit I was punting with a couple of good WGs at £90 an hour.

[Handel2020]

When I first started punting it was mainly massage parlours  ( the full service sort not the rub and tug places of today) all of these were staffed by mainly British girls with at least 4 or 5 to choose from on each shift and adultwork and viva street were unheard of. Better days in my opinion. Used to visit these on a regular basis .

Same here. I miss the local parlour.

[rubric]

I've never understood the fixation with nationality - if a WG is good, I don't care what country she comes from.

I'd generally concur, though Romanians generally have a fairly piss poor reputation for good reasons.

[smiths]

I've never understood the fixation with nationality - if a WG is good, I don't care what country she comes from.

Same here plus loads of WGs lie about where they are really from anyway. I have punted with some WGs who first told me they were Hungarian, the next time Latvian. However i do avoid some WGs due to what they charge, in my area many Brazilian WGs charge £120-140 an hour and aren't well reviewed on here, or aren't reviewed at all. I have no interest in paying a premium just to punt with a WG who says she is Brazilian, and might not even be in reality. Same with many Black WGs in my area, too expensive for my liking, and Asian/Orientals, i wouldn't happily punt with them post virus if they charged less.

[smiths]

I'd generally concur, though Romanians generally have a fairly piss poor reputation for good reasons.

They certainly do but as ever i go on the individual WG myself, a couple of my recent pre-virus regulars are Romanian and always offered me a great service. But i know from experience many don't.

[20jay]

I've never understood the fixation with nationality - if a WG is good, I don't care what country she comes from.

+1

[20jay]

I'd generally concur, though Romanians generally have a fairly piss poor reputation for good reasons.

...because they also have the highest percentage within the tarts.

[rubric]

...because they also have the highest percentage within the tarts.

At the time when the majority of WGs were Polish, Poles didn't have quite the same reputation.  I suspect it's more due to the way in which romanian brothels are run -- typically much more sergei driven.

[20jay]

At the time when the majority of WGs were Polish, Poles didn't have quite the same reputation.  I suspect it's more due to the way in which romanian brothels are run -- typically much more sergei driven.

In some countries,also the Poles and Hungarians had a bad reputation years ago.. Probably a general drop in "performance level" and the will to earn only quick money.

[GreyDave]

  Smiths Sir I have followed your advice a few times sir and Uncle Steves ...
Hemel H used to have some great places the IVY were had plenty of big titters reall DD ers the old fashion ones as big as my head types not the dd ers which are not even a hand full   there was a Rubenesque girl who liked to try and get 2 pops out of you in half an hour which was great then there was Karens cock tales which ended up being Saphires Lisaff was a main stay there but Karen was a really good shag she used to say to me " 2 pops in half an hour if you reckon you can I`ll get them out of you!" I usally did

Why I said Golden days of punting is parties and the sheer number and type of WG I have been able to shag cheaply and easily seems just wonderfull now I am in lock down and approaching 60 having to use the bluepill    Clubfantasylondon parties and Lady M`s Sutton House Brazilan House wd18 and others they seem distant ...thankfully there are some Sandie Canie Bukkake films which bring back the merories if not the abilty to multi pop ....that Pascal lad (french one not the english ejt ) well hung and allways plasted the girls but so relaxed about it always wore a ski mask but with that cock youd never mistake him  meanwhile me and the other lads well we are all smallpart players so invisable   Golden Days indeed.  

To  Steve2 Smiths and any of the other lads Ive bumped into at events Stay Safe We`ll Shag Again 

[davidgood]

For me the Golden Days were from around 2008 to 2016.

I was in a well paid job, with money in a personal bank account and more coming in from expenses. Had lots of invites to corporate dos and seminars with drinks after, plus we often went out for team drinks so could use these as excuses for being out late.

I was based for quite a while  in offices in Central London so easy to get to anywhere in London after work. Also the job involved travelling around the Country so was able to sample things in lots of locations.

I had lots of 1 to 1s but around 2009 I took the plunge to try sex parties and became hooked. For me the best ones were Pam's Parties for VFM, variety of girls and laid back atmosphere.

I am still lucky enough to get out and about a bit, except for now, but do not get the oportunity to travel around like I used to.

I am hoping that we will be out of Lockdown in a month or two and things will start getting back to normal. But I fear that things will be different.

Some party organisers may not survive. Working flats will have been given up. Foreign SPs will have gone home. SPs may have started other civvy jobs and decide to retire from The Game. I suspect choice will be limited and prices will rise, rather than go down.

Let us see.

Regards,

davidgood

[smiths]

Smiths Sir I have followed your advice a few times sir and Uncle Steves ...
Hemel H used to have some great places the IVY were had plenty of big titters reall DD ers the old fashion ones as big as my head types not the dd ers which are not even a hand full   there was a Rubenesque girl who liked to try and get 2 pops out of you in half an hour which was great then there was Karens cock tales which ended up being Saphires Lisaff was a main stay there but Karen was a really good shag she used to say to me " 2 pops in half an hour if you reckon you can I`ll get them out of you!" I usally did

Why I said Golden days of punting is parties and the sheer number and type of WG I have been able to shag cheaply and easily seems just wonderfull now I am in lock down and approaching 60 having to use the bluepill    Clubfantasylondon parties and Lady M`s Sutton House Brazilan House wd18 and others they seem distant ...thankfully there are some Sandie Canie Bukkake films which bring back the merories if not the abilty to multi pop ....that Pascal lad (french one not the english ejt ) well hung and allways plasted the girls but so relaxed about it always wore a ski mask but with that cock youd never mistake him  meanwhile me and the other lads well we are all smallpart players so invisable   Golden Days indeed.  

To  Steve2 Smiths and any of the other lads Ive bumped into at events Stay Safe We`ll Shag Again 

And to you to.

[GreyDave]

  David Good , thanks for reminding me of Pam and her parties at The Paradise spa ..she had me numerous times and I enjoyed her compedative edge when she was with Candy the west indian and another WG I remember the Next shouts as they would go though guys

I took a break and found myself doing the blonde slave on the table ten mins after she had done me Kamagra isnt it great ...god I had a hard on for that afternoon and a hell of a headache later

[Steve2]

A couple of the earliest party girls

Caitlin Coxx

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Caitlin and Sandie Caine

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Annabel Moon

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[shagbambi]

A couple of the earliest party girls

Caitlin Coxx

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Caitlin and Sandie Caine

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Annabel Moon

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I know this is going to sound nuts but I am sure Annabel Moon is on seeking.  I had her setup for an afternoon session but had to cancel due to work.

From my perspective I believe AW has declined.  My preference has always been for part-timers (students/housewives).  It is very rare to find them on AW any more.  I think that prostitution evolves and that part of the market has moved on to SA/seeking.  So punting is still really good if you use that medium and prefer longer punts.  However there is an amount of legwork which never existed before.

Pricing has lost touch with reality on AW.  I admit though I will not punt a rom due to multiple shit experiences and my preference for DFK. 

[blend57]

Golden age for me was when I discovered that I could get to London quite cheaply. 2013 was a great year. I found a number of great ladies and had some good times. Sadly though by the second half of 2014 most of those woman had left the business. It was also at this time the industry moved over to Adultwork. Yes, Adultwork was around before then but it was a site that women used in addition to their own website as well as other punting websites.

But after 2014 Adultwork seemed to get enough momentum to pretty much take over. Whilst some women still maintain with own website and some seem to use twitter, Adultwork is where most of the WGs advertise. Understandable in a way. It is a one stop shop for advertising and connecting with clients.

However, as has been said before, it also makes a bit too easy for a WG to advertise, as well as pimps and other undesirables.

[cotton]

Prostitution carries on as it always will with minor variations, what changes is the individual punter , ageing , losing the initial thrill , with hindsight appreciating how good punts you had in the past were. But if youve got the enthusiasm theres always going to be plenty of hot chiks and interesting experiences to be had.

[tesla]

Prostitution carries on as it always will with minor variations, what changes is the individual punter , ageing , losing the initial thrill , with hindsight appreciating how good punts you had in the past were. But if youve got the enthusiasm theres always going to be plenty of hot chiks and interesting experiences to be had.

+ 1   I agree a "golden age"is more to do with the punters personal perceptions not a period in history

[mr.bluesky]

As I have mentioned on another thread I used to frequent massage parlours where the lady's would wear those white tunics  usually short and with a few of the buttons undone showing plenty of cleavage.  That usually got me in the mood before we got down to business.  I think it should be made compulsory for all massage parlour girls to wear this .

[sparkus]

+ 1   I agree a "golden age"is more to do with the punters personal perceptions not a period in history

I think the 00s pre-2010 or so were an obvious golden age as you had an abundance of WGs in East London working in a number of off-street locations who either advertised in shop windows (no more), local newspapers (much less) or AW (or other now gone sites), plus a number of very visible saunas on main roads.  For straightforward P&D the sums of money were paltry i.e. £30 (even £25 at one place), though saunas always worked out at £50 a visit.

I made it my business to visit all the saunas at least once (my god, Manor Park was grotty) and undertake regular visits to the easier to reach ones to establish by sight what girls were on the regular rota.  It seemed East London back then was swimming with much more punting options than now and at much lower cost, though in fairness TCMs weren't a thing back then and my post-2010 punting life would have been much poorer without them.

So I think the golden age thing was more about there being seemingly much more cheaper options available back then.  AW certainly had a lot more WGs in my then postcode than it does now.  The only thing that comes close is the Ilford-Gants Hill-Barking furry triangle of low cost Latinas/Roms on VS, though that's no great shakes.

[hornyguylondon]

I think the 00s pre-2010 or so were an obvious golden age as you had an abundance of WGs in East London working in a number of off-street locations who either advertised in shop windows (no more), local newspapers (much less) or AW (or other now gone sites), plus a number of very visible saunas on main roads.  For straightforward P&D the sums of money were paltry i.e. £30 (even £25 at one place), though saunas always worked out at £50 a visit.

I made it my business to visit all the saunas at least once (my god, Manor Park was grotty) and undertake regular visits to the easier to reach ones to establish by sight what girls were on the regular rota.  It seemed East London back then was swimming with much more punting options than now and at much lower cost, though in fairness TCMs weren't a thing back then and my post-2010 punting life would have been much poorer without them.

So I think the golden age thing was more about there being seemingly much more cheaper options available back then.  AW certainly had a lot more WGs in my then postcode than it does now.  The only thing that comes close is the Ilford-Gants Hill-Barking furry triangle of low cost Latinas/Roms on VS, though that's no great shakes.

All B&S on VS nowadays unfortunately - if you quiz them on phone they just say “very similar”.  Ok if you like surprises I guess 

[hornyguylondon]

As I have mentioned on another thread I used to frequent massage parlours where the lady's would wear those white tunics  usually short and with a few of the buttons undone showing plenty of cleavage.  That usually got me in the mood before we got down to business.  I think it should be made compulsory for all massage parlour girls to wear this .

Now you’re talking 

[sparkus]

All B&S on VS nowadays unfortunately - if you quiz them on phone they just say “very similar”.  Ok if you like surprises I guess 

I've visited a couple, always in the knowledge that it won't be what's shown and I can walk.  I never do though.

[GreyDave]

A couple of the earliest party girls

Caitlin Coxx

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Caitlin and Sandie Caine

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Annabel Moon

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I really enjoyed the Mellons Marie and Annabel Moon party it was in a very smart pad as I remember and weighing up those heavy juggs before the plastering event was great Marie I saw a few after a real up for it dirty fuck  Annabel was one I seen on videos an was in disbelif she was sucking me off ...But the Greatest event you did in my mind was Emma Butt  the legend  not once but 2 you arranged her What a Woman  we did one with a posh bird called herself Paris (not the troublemaker ) and she just wore all the guys out totally  Great days Sir 

A big shout out to Larry with the fold up bike and the American business man who usally turned up too  and Ginger Dave

[sparkus]

As I have mentioned on another thread I used to frequent massage parlours where the lady's would wear those white tunics  usually short and with a few of the buttons undone showing plenty of cleavage.  That usually got me in the mood before we got down to business.  I think it should be made compulsory for all massage parlour girls to wear this .

This was the MO for most East London saunas back then.  Mermaids/Crystals in Leyton you had to pay through a small window to gain entry and if there was only two or three girls on you'd get to see the one who took your money and her tunic cleavage (or lack thereof) plus the two sat glum on the sofa behind her.  Over time I worked out how to make the snap decision to pay or walk on that basis.

The saunas were preferable to brothels for that reason as usually you'd rock up to those to be confronted by an old maid and a girl in underwear usually spraying air freshener into a room...

[hornyguylondon]

I've visited a couple, always in the knowledge that it won't be what's shown and I can walk.  I never do though.

That's their plan - know guys too well 

[sparkus]

That's their plan - know guys too well 

Boats aren't up to much but generally speaking the women they put in those places have cuuuuuurves.

This is par for the course: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=229382.0

[Steve2]

I know this is going to sound nuts but I am sure Annabel Moon is on seeking.  I had her setup for an afternoon session but had to cancel due to work.

 

Not nuts at all. She was a great party girl. must be close to 50 now though

[shagbambi]

Not nuts at all. She was a great party girl. must be close to 50 now though

She presented herself as early forties - claimed to like fisting....

[Steve2]

But the Greatest event you did in my mind was Emma Butt  the legend  not once but 2 you arranged her What a Woman 

Here is Emma Butt Dave

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and Lady Tiffany

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and Leah Jayne  with Juicy Jo

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[hornyguylondon]

Boats aren't up to much but generally speaking the women they put in those places have cuuuuuurves.

This is par for the course: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=229382.0

Get the picture, although not too sure about the guy who was on the same page 

[Steve2]

and Nikita Devine with Randy Raine

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