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Offline peter purves

My own view - even if my review ratings have increased by 1.9% in line with inflation  :P

I try to see everything as useful. So this means I do not take 'offence' if someone leaves a mini-review within someone else's review. I try to see it that someone has gone out of their way and time to provide some in-tell. Sometimes even the lies- if you can decipher them - are useful, since you know to believe the contrary.

Moving on, the contributions of the likes off, funnily enough, they have been absent recently, in no particular order 'The Illustrious FCB  :hi: , The Don  :hi: and Sinz  :hi: has been invaluable.

On a different slant, the portfolios presented by TM has almost - not quite yet - got me to punt purely on the pics and how it is presented  :P
« Last Edit: August 13, 2019, 11:14:44 pm by peter purves »
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Offline JonasG

For me personally is whenever you have a negative experience, post it ASAP. That to me is the most useful member. Positives are good to see no doubt, but to be made aware of a shit WG is so important.

We've all had shit punts for whatever reason, attitude or not being responded to and being made to sit in our cars like a prick.

If you're a regular on here, make sure to get it on here ASAP irrespective if they will point you out as that punter.

Anytime I've had a horrible time, the first thing on my mind is to get a review up on here! Half to make myself feel better, half to help other punters.

The amount of times I've liked a profile on AW and then researched on here and seen the negatives is untold. So helpful.

That's a useful member to me.

Offline PatMacGroin

Not to overlook the sterling work, both behind the scenes and in posts, of Mr Goldfinch.

Yes, thank you for highlighting his work. I am almost ashamed to have forgotten him. I hope he can accept my apologies and recognise that I have had occasion to post comments acknowledging his efforts on other occasions.  :rolleyes:  :hi:

The efforts of several members, most noticeably Goldfinch, to index reviews and provide links for WG's when omitted by reviewers are in ,many ways crucial to ensure the whole review and rating systems hangs together. It is a subtle, but important, contribution which can easily be over looked.

Offline PatMacGroin

What makes a useful contributor to UKP. It’s very simple.
Post some reviews, positive or negative both are useful.
Contribute to the forum by advising others on your experiences good or bad
Finally, the most important. Don’t ask any fucking stupid questions. :D

 :lol: :lol: :lol: If that is directed at me, fair enough  :D

Although in my defence, there is an old trope that's says "there is no such thing as a stupid question". The standard rebuttal to that is yes there is because...
- the answer is obvious
- if you made enough effort yourself you wouldn't have to ask, and
- if you were paying enough attention you'd already know.

What I hope is obvious is that my opening question was intended to stimulate discussion. There are always answers that are new to someone. Even the most experienced individual that believes he knows everything is, unfortunately, bound to be wrong. 

Offline PatMacGroin

Agree kudos to those who help the site run and all the behind the scenes work etc  :hi:

As for those who review, then a useful contributor will shine through by giving advice that looks to helps other punters in making a choice  :thumbsup:

There are some that leak their own ego and spend most of the review talking about themselves and often not prepared to admit there had a bad one. Goldwing, recently banned, was one example, and I would just ignore his reviews and posts.

In one line, if you'r looking for a good punt and understand that you get what you give, then you are a useful contributor.

That is one explanation for members with consistently positive reviews that I had not considered. The belief that posting a negative review is somehow an admission of some perceived failure on their part.

I recognise how some guys may have somehow have such low self esteem that any negative experience is somehow their fault. However, I don't see a negative review as a failure of the punter, I see it as a failure of the SP. The punter is paying a "professional" to provide a service they have advertised. If a chef serves inedible food that doesn't live up to the menu and the way the restaurant present itself, how is that the fault of the diner?

I do hope there are not many members of UKP who feel that way. 

Offline PatMacGroin

My own view - even if my review ratings have increased by 1.9% in line with inflation  :P

I try to see everything as useful. So this means I do not take 'offence' if someone leaves a mini-review within someone else's review. I try to see it that someone has gone out of their way and time to provide some in-tell. Sometimes even the lies- if you can decipher them - are useful, since you know to believe the contrary.

Moving on, the contributions of the likes off, funnily enough, they have been absent recently, in no particular order 'The Illustrious FCB  :hi: , The Don  :hi: and Sinz  :hi: has been invaluable.

On a different slant, the portfolios presented by TM has almost - not quite yet - got me to punt purely on the pics and how it is presented  :P

I am not so sure I agree. There are definitely degree's of what is the most useful.

I was going say that a post like "+1" is largely useless. At the very least it is just a short hand for agreement, and could potentially be seen as useful for gauging how widespread a particular opinion is.

Although, digging deeper, on some occasions it can also reveal members that not only have idiotic views, but are also so stupid they lack the ability to express themselves articulately? Thus showing themselves to be less reliable?  :P
« Last Edit: August 14, 2019, 03:03:49 am by PatMacGroin »

Offline PatMacGroin

For me personally is whenever you have a negative experience, post it ASAP. That to me is the most useful member. Positives are good to see no doubt, but to be made aware of a shit WG is so important.

We've all had shit punts for whatever reason, attitude or not being responded to and being made to sit in our cars like a prick.

If you're a regular on here, make sure to get it on here ASAP irrespective if they will point you out as that punter.

Anytime I've had a horrible time, the first thing on my mind is to get a review up on here! Half to make myself feel better, half to help other punters.

The amount of times I've liked a profile on AW and then researched on here and seen the negatives is untold. So helpful.

That's a useful member to me.

A timely negative review is, in my opinion, without doubt the most useful contribution that can be made to UKP.  :thumbsup:

Offline Goldfinch

Yes, thank you for highlighting his work. I am almost ashamed to have forgotten him. I hope he can accept my apologies and recognise that I have had occasion to post comments acknowledging his efforts on other occasions.  :rolleyes:  :hi:

The efforts of several members, most noticeably Goldfinch, to index reviews and provide links for WG's when omitted by reviewers are in ,many ways crucial to ensure the whole review and rating systems hangs together. It is a subtle, but important, contribution which can easily be over looked.

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Offline king tarzan

Banned scumbags, who were rightly banned in my view. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:


our views differ.. each to there own opinions.. :hi:
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Offline Belgarion

i dont often go on UKE, i usually just go to check out too see if any escorts have put up their private gallery up for free, or just sometimes having a nose too see whats up.

had some good laughs this time, apparently your some kind of trouble maker in chief ?  :D :D

on topic :

to me a useful member first and foremost is one that contributes review, the core function of this site.

everything else is secondary


one suggestion i have. although i dont know how it will be implemented is for recognition for punters who contribute foreign review or intel on foreign places e.g morocco. other members sometime assume they are leeching when infact they only punt abroad.

Yes, enjoyed my time on UKE. Old Admin decided to move on and handed it to someone with a gargantuan chip on his shoulder about some users.

He took over the site and started threatening people, talking about lists of troublemakers and made quite a few disparaging comments about some members.

So it was clear the new owner had beef with some posters.

I respectfully asked the new owner to assure people that he wouldn't do anything mischievous with their IP addresses considering the "bile" emanating from his posts.

Next thing I know I get banned. I received no warning, no right of reply and did not break any rules as they put up new rules after I got banned.

I was apparently the Head of the Snake of bullying or not stopping bullies from bullying other people. Was one of the most hilarious things I've read in my life.  :lol:

I know who the new owner is and they are on UKP. Challenged him about what he did and like the coward he is, he didn't respond.

When the old boss left, I suspected the site would go downhill and I'm not surprised.

The site is headed the way of PN
« Last Edit: August 14, 2019, 07:56:35 am by Belgarion »

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Next thing I know I get banned. I received no warning, no right of reply and did not break any rules as they put up new rules after I got banned.

I was apparently the Head of the Snake of bullying or not stopping bullies from bullying other people. Was one of the most hilarious things I've read in my life.  :lol:

I know who the new owner is and they are on UKP. Challenged him about what he did and like the coward he is, he didn't respond.

When the old boss left, I suspected the site would go downhill and I'm not surprised.

The site is headed the way of PN

Are you aware of the rules on here regarding other site? as you are getting close to breaking them.

11 Other punting forums
Discussion about other punting forums is not prohibited but many are often very hostile. Other forums are also anti-punter; therefore it is not in the interests of punters to give them publicity. Posting links to other sites is prohibited as is slagging off. Use your noodle. We are allowing links in Punting Abroad section.

Offline Belgarion

Are you aware of the rules on here regarding other site? as you are getting close to breaking them.

11 Other punting forums
Discussion about other punting forums is not prohibited but many are often very hostile. Other forums are also anti-punter; therefore it is not in the interests of punters to give them publicity. Posting links to other sites is prohibited as is slagging off. Use your noodle. We are allowing links in Punting Abroad section.

My apologies, was just recounting events that transpired based on the post I was replying to.

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My apologies, was just recounting events that transpired based on the post I was replying to.

 :hi:

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Offline darkknightrises

Yes, enjoyed my time on UKE. Old Admin decided to move on and handed it to someone with a gargantuan chip on his shoulder about some users.

He took over the site and started threatening people, talking about lists of troublemakers and made quite a few disparaging comments about some members.

So it was clear the new owner had beef with some posters.

I respectfully asked the new owner to assure people that he wouldn't do anything mischievous with their IP addresses considering the "bile" emanating from his posts.

Next thing I know I get banned. I received no warning, no right of reply and did not break any rules as they put up new rules after I got banned.

I was apparently the Head of the Snake of bullying or not stopping bullies from bullying other people. Was one of the most hilarious things I've read in my life.  :lol:

I know who the new owner is and they are on UKP. Challenged him about what he did and like the coward he is, he didn't respond.

When the old boss left, I suspected the site would go downhill and I'm not surprised.

The site is headed the way of PN

For once I agree with you  :thumbsup:

Offline mr.bluesky

Not to overlook the sterling work, both behind the scenes and in posts, of Mr Goldfinch.

 As a complete techno numpty I rely on Mr. Goldfinch to post my links and he never fails to deliver.  :thumbsup:

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As a complete techno numpty I rely on Mr. Goldfinch to post my links and he never fails to deliver.  :thumbsup:

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Offline Horizontal pleasures

I enjoy writing reviews and have written before that if someone is going to enjoy reading what you have written you have to enjoy writing it. I still enjoy punting but cannot manage it as often as I used to - it takes me longer to recover. I will be 78 in December.

And the sort of ladies I like have become elusive or when I find one it is somewhere I have made a work journey which will not be repeated. I used to punt when I took one of my kids to or from Uni but now only one left, one more year and Missus HP comes along so less opportunity.

Also some of the ladies I have found and enjoyed vanished after one or two visits. Others figured out it was me, were cross about my truthful review so I could not return.

I have been told that people are happy to read my reviews so they know who to avoid even if my reviews were positive. Haha.

I have not had many negatives but a few were scorchers including a thief.




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As I've said before reviews aren't the be all and end all. A certain site had a lot of reviews, but they were two lines long and written by parlour owners.

Sharing good information and personalities are more important. I think what killed off a few sites one I will mention is Sheffield scene was a totalitarian regime where you couldn't criticise the favourite girls. Touting and white knighting being banned on here really helps.

Offline tynetunnel

Depends how you define "useful". See, "useful" to me is somebody who reviews all, if not most of their punts (obviously within the guidelines of the site e.g. no more than one positive review in a year for the same girl), whether positive, neutral or negative and however frequent. A person who punts once a month and writes a review on every girl is more useful than someone who punts every week and scarcely, if ever, reviews a WG.

Helping punters make a decision on who to see and who to avoid is a big part of this site.

Also, someone who is willing to offer advice. Granted, there's a load of repeat threads on here and it gets tiresome but a helping hand in the right direction on some threads - even to first-timers and people with no reviews - is no harm.

The rules have been changed following the new ownership of the site, as i understand it  :hi:

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A new review thread can only be created once a service provider has agreed to a booking. A meet does not need to take place, money does not need change hands, the only criteria is that she had accepted the initial booking. Members can post more than one review about an SP, but touting will result in a ban. Reviews are allowed up to 6 months after the event(positive or negative)



https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=252680.0

Offline NIK

As I've said before reviews aren't the be all and end all. A certain site had a lot of reviews, but they were two lines long and written by parlour owners.

Sharing good information and personalities are more important. I think what killed off a few sites one I will mention is Sheffield scene was a totalitarian regime where you couldn't criticise the favourite girls. Touting and white knighting being banned on here really helps.

Sheffield Scene was so pro prossy anti punter it actually made PNet seem like a punters site!
It was only any good if you tongued the old slags arses and enjoyed fatty’s recipes.
Worst paid sex site ever.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2019, 09:44:24 pm by NIK »

Offline peter purves

I am not so sure I agree. There are definitely degree's of what is the most useful.

I was going say that a post like "+1" is largely useless. At the very least it is just a short hand for agreement, and could potentially be seen as useful for gauging how widespread a particular opinion is.

Although, digging deeper, on some occasions it can also reveal members that not only have idiotic views, but are also so stupid they lack the ability to express themselves articulately? Thus showing themselves to be less reliable?  :P

Here I would agree with you!

I was trying to get across that my perspective is to try to see all information given as useful - within reason of course.

Gives me a chance to mention the contributions of TS&W to the names I mentioned previously.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2019, 11:57:26 pm by peter purves »
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Offline LLPunting

As I've said before reviews aren't the be all and end all. A certain site had a lot of reviews, but they were two lines long and written by parlour owners.

Sharing good information and personalities are more important. I think what killed off a few sites one I will mention is Sheffield scene was a totalitarian regime where you couldn't criticise the favourite girls. Touting and white knighting being banned on here really helps.

Timely reviews definitely are a raison d'etre for this site.  Trying to track the timeline of an SP's service evolution is a pain if people update randomly across previous reviews, especially if they're disagreeing with the original's rating.  There've been plenty of examples in the past year of new and veteran contributors who can write brief, on point reviews that take no more than 10-15 mins to compose and don't reveal so much identifying info (should that be a concern).
Also the increasing number of SPs who only surface for a week (even less) at a time means that opportunity and warnings are missed.  Conceivably, if a new/occassional SP was encouraged by popularity we might bring a new darling into the market.

Offline LLPunting

The rules have been changed following the new ownership of the site, as i understand it  :hi:

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A new review thread can only be created once a service provider has agreed to a booking. A meet does not need to take place, money does not need change hands, the only criteria is that she had accepted the initial booking. Members can post more than one review about an SP, but touting will result in a ban. Reviews are allowed up to 6 months after the event(positive or negative)



https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=252680.0

I'm still waiting to learn if 2 positives in 3 weeks is too often...

Offline Steve2

I'm still waiting to learn if 2 positives in 3 weeks is too often...

I'd have thought so

A pos and a neg that close would be OK though

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Sheffield Scene was so pro prossy anti punter it actually made PNet seem like a punters site!
It was only any good if you tongued the old slags arses and enjoyed fatty’s recipes.
Worst paid sex site ever.
I asked for recommendations for parlour girls aged around 20-40. I'm sure you can guess who I was recommended and they were nearing pension age.

Offline johnny34

I'm still waiting to learn if 2 positives in 3 weeks is too often...
In this instance I would tag the second booking onto the first review rather than starting a new one provided it remained positive  :thumbsup:

Offline LLPunting

In this instance I would tag the second booking onto the first review rather than starting a new one provided it remained positive  :thumbsup:

That's not what the revised rules imply.  Someone's already done it and I'm seeking clarification.

Offline GingerNuts

That's not what the revised rules imply.  Someone's already done it and I'm seeking clarification.

You could use the "Report to moderator" button on the OP for the second review and give the link for the first review asking if the second review is acceptable.

Offline johnny34

That's not what the revised rules imply.  Someone's already done it and I'm seeking clarification.
Comes across as touting/trying to increase review count if too close together imho. I noticed recently 2 reviews in 24hrs but nothing happened with that so it would be good to get some clarity on the situation  :thumbsup:

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What makes a UKP member a useful contributor?

I think it depends on individual preferences. Someone may have in depth knowledge of the tranny scene with 100 great reviews and I won't have read a single post. HP is a legend but I dare not open his reviews (not a judgement on his activities, just his preference of prostitute).  :scare:

I'm the old, fat bloke with limited resources looking to enjoy the most life has to offer, which is what brought me to UKP to start with. Once you realise that everyone else suffers the same bullshit from prostitutes and punting is literally a gamble on the moods of women, my interest faded. I'm happy to share my experiences and suggest punting alternatives. When I'm seduced by a profile and lured into a punt, I will review a hopeful positive.

Offline Jerk Chicken

To me first and foremost it is posting ALL YOUR reviews be it positive, nuetral or negative. We are fully aware that is not the case and in an ideal punting forum like this there woukd be a solution to this selfish behaviour (of some punters) but as things stand there is not.

Posting all your reviews allows forum members to decide for themselves if they still want to take the punt but at least they are now armed with valuable intel. To me all other types of contributions, comments on other reviews et al although useful, are just the icing on the cake with the cherry on top.

Let us not forget what the cake is? A PUNT!

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Offline Beamer

To me first and foremost it is posting ALL YOUR reviews be it positive, nuetral or negative. We are fully aware that is not the case and in an ideal punting forum like this there woukd be a solution to this selfish behaviour (of some punters) but as things stand there is not.

Posting all your reviews allows forum members to decide for themselves if they still want to take the punt but at least they are now armed with valuable intel. To me all other types of contributions, comments on other reviews et al although useful, are just the icing on the cake with the cherry on top.

Let us not forget what the cake is? A PUNT!

Absolutely ...... also if i understand it correctly, the revised rules on reviews allows more freedom (but not too a touting level) to update recent punts in a review format rather than to just add a discussion.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2019, 10:10:39 pm by Beamer »

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so.............What DOES makes a UKIP member a useful contributor?????

I was expecting a few erudite posts from Nigel

Offline JonasG

I don't think it's just about posting reviews tbh. A lot of positives i see are frankly nonsense. Some guys are simply easily pleased. And I've been stung in the past with this when seeing a positive history, though I'm aware the rules say take every review with a degree of leeway.

Many reviews don't give the full picture. A review needs to be accurate for one.
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Offline LLPunting

You could use the "Report to moderator" button on the OP for the second review and give the link for the first review asking if the second review is acceptable.

Yup, already reported nearly a week ago for steerage, that's what I'm waiting on, preferably as an update to the rules for clarity.

Offline LLPunting

I don't think it's just about posting reviews tbh. A lot of positives i see are frankly nonsense. Some guys are simply easily pleased. And I've been stung in the past with this when seeing a positive history, though I'm aware the rules say take every review with a degree of leeway.

Many reviews don't give the full picture. A review needs to be accurate for one.

More reviews from more sources counter or confirm the bias of the fluffy, smitten fans and the ranters.  Unless you hold to targeted or general conspiracy by reviewers to misrepresent (or tout) an SP the non-partisan "collective" is who we must hear from.  Exception reporting is key for known SPs.  If an SP is demonstrating consistency by new punter reviews concurring then there's no need for regulars to keep chipping in to confirm.  Only when their treatment deviates from reputation do we really need their new review.

Yes we'd all love to trust that every review is posted with honesty and sufficient detail about performance but almost all will omit some specific details to protect the anonymity of the posters, but that "inaccuracy" is acceptable.  It is timeliness that matters most.

The collection of other incidental knowledge about the hobby, good or bad organisations, how to find new talent advertising by new means, anything that increases the odds of us punting "safely" and with more confidence and resilience is a boon.

Offline dfkfan

instant pile-on for anyone with a small number of reviews and posts (me) who likes to be nice about SPs (also me).

Catch 22 where I don't bother to write reviews because I don't have enough reviews to avoid the doubters.

And I like to be friendly and nice to SPs, then everyone thinks I'm a bird/tout/whatever.

Offline Blackpool Rock

instant pile-on for anyone with a small number of reviews and posts (me) who likes to be nice about SPs (also me).

Catch 22 where I don't bother to write reviews because I don't have enough reviews to avoid the doubters.

And I like to be friendly and nice to SPs, then everyone thinks I'm a bird/tout/whatever.
While I agree with you that everyone has to start somewhere and i'm sure many newbies are put off if they get jumped on instantly you also sometimes have to roll with it until you build up some credibility.
Goldfinch has been mentioned on this thread as being a useful contributor but I seem to recall he took quite a bit of stick on the NW board when he was new but kept making useful contributions and is now mentioned in dispatches.

So how do you think your post will go down then  :unknown:
Based on 7 posts (including this one) in almost 2 years i'm expecting you to cop for some flak along the lines of you haven't made much effort to contribute now come on slagging people off  :rolleyes:

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Goldfinch has been mentioned on this thread as being a useful contributor but I seem to recall he took quite a bit of stick on the NW board when he was new but kept making useful contributions and is now mentioned in dispatches.


Yes,I certainly did-it was only when I understand the ethos of this site,things changed,luckily 'Cueball' steered me in the right direction. :thumbsup:

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Yes,I certainly did-it was only when I understand the ethos of this site,things changed,luckily 'Cueball' steered me in the right direction. :thumbsup:
Ah yes trial by cage munter  ;)


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For me there are two key points

1. Are their reviews trustworthy?
2. Do they post useful information?

Yeah theres always the danger that people will make fake reviews if every one is being forced to make reviews then fake reviews will come up so that people can stay on board thats the thing when people are forced to make reviews.
So it could be conterproductive.

Offline billybobsmith

I tend to take reviews with a pinch of salt. 
If they're generally all positive, then that might sway me into looking at the woman in question.  Any neutral or negative comment, even if 1 out of 100, will set alarm bells ringing and I'll be less likely to jump straight in.

Any review makes someone worthwhile in my opinion.  Sure they might be fluffy / white knight context based, or even someone with a grudge to bear, but at the end of the day, a review is a review and does provide the opportunity for me, or others, to decide for themselves whether they should or shouldn't go there.
I appreciate people taking one for the team, giving feedback whether good, neutral or bad and so on.  It's people who try to make the experience that bit better for others that are the useful contributors in my eyes.  If someone saves me £120 or so by not going to a second rate or inconsistent provider, then in my eyes, they've done me a good service.
I don't really begrudge people asking things like "who's good in xxx?" as a first post and not reviewing.  Everyone has to start somewhere, and you don't know whether that person will follow up the advice and potentially save someone else from being ripped off down the line.  At the very least, it opens up some form of dialogue that may yield useful info (although they'll probably never return after being called a troll, be castigated and so on.....)


Offline LLPunting

instant pile-on for anyone with a small number of reviews and posts (me) who likes to be nice about SPs (also me).

Catch 22 where I don't bother to write reviews because I don't have enough reviews to avoid the doubters.

And I like to be friendly and nice to SPs, then everyone thinks I'm a bird/tout/whatever.

So are you a troll or will you be another Goldfinch?  Choice is yours, how do you want to be remembered when the blue pills stop working?

Offline tesla

instant pile-on for anyone with a small number of reviews and posts (me) who likes to be nice about SPs (also me).

Catch 22 where I don't bother to write reviews because I don't have enough reviews to avoid the doubters.

And I like to be friendly and nice to SPs, then everyone thinks I'm a bird/tout/whatever.

7 posts since you joined in 2017, one in 2018 and the rest this year, can you blame people for doubting you?

Offline LLPunting

Yeah theres always the danger that people will make fake reviews if every one is being forced to make reviews then fake reviews will come up so that people can stay on board thats the thing when people are forced to make reviews.
So it could be conterproductive.

Errrm... no.  The only fakers are likely to be fantasists, pimps or SPs who don't punt but just want to keep participating (and promoting) on this board.  Leeches don't need to post at all at present, you only get ejected if you pipe up and are proven to be a faker or waster.

Any active punter who steps into the light need only post an informative review of someone he's seen, it's his fault if he doesn't anonymise it enough to protect his identity. 

Remember we only need to know:  How good were comms?  State of accommodation?  What you paid for.  What did she look like?  How did she behave?  A description of her techniques for services rendered.  Day of week if she's on a rota (or fib and say any day that she is actually on duty, a permissible white lie).  Up to you about the exactitude of your description to preserve your identity; "She squirted in my mouth as I knelt on the floor and she frigged herself silly" or "at one point she squirted".

We DO NOT need to know: How much of a swordsman you are.  What you looked like.  How much she loved your small/average/large cock.  What whispers you exchanged.  The promises you made to each other.  What aftershave/body spray you wear.  What presents you brought her.  When you met (provided she's not on a limited rota, see above).  Which of your scars, tattoos or piercings she liked.  What order you did everything in.  Exactly how long you stayed.  What she gave you as you departed.  What the weather was like (if it might identify day).  What the other occupants said.  Details of other punters you saw.

These "don'ts" are colour that can give you (and others) away.  They add colour and character but they may also reveal.  Your choice.

Offline LLPunting

I tend to take reviews with a pinch of salt. 
If they're generally all positive, then that might sway me into looking at the woman in question.  Any neutral or negative comment, even if 1 out of 100, will set alarm bells ringing and I'll be less likely to jump straight in.

Any review makes someone worthwhile in my opinion.  Sure they might be fluffy / white knight context based, or even someone with a grudge to bear, but at the end of the day, a review is a review and does provide the opportunity for me, or others, to decide for themselves whether they should or shouldn't go there.
I appreciate people taking one for the team, giving feedback whether good, neutral or bad and so on.  It's people who try to make the experience that bit better for others that are the useful contributors in my eyes.  If someone saves me £120 or so by not going to a second rate or inconsistent provider, then in my eyes, they've done me a good service.

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I don't really begrudge people asking things like "who's good in xxx?" as a first post and not reviewing.  Everyone has to start somewhere, and you don't know whether that person will follow up the advice and potentially save someone else from being ripped off down the line.  At the very least, it opens up some form of dialogue that may yield useful info (although they'll probably never return after being called a troll, be castigated and so on.....)

Provided a new entrant has genuinely tried to look for the answer first, because there is plenty to find with just a little thought about how to find it.  Those who appear and just want to be spoon fed recommendations, especially after making trite statements about not being able to find something/someone, I don't see why they need to be coddled.  Giving them a prod about how to look for what they want is better than just telling them an answer, especially when they haven't even qualified their query enough.  "I'm new, can't find any English SPs with great tits, please help!",  "Long time lurker, please be gentle, can you recommend a beautiful Russian?"

Offline NigelF

so.............What DOES makes a UKIP member a useful contributor?????

I was expecting a few erudite posts from Nigel

 :lol:

I'm still waiting to learn if 2 positives in 3 weeks is too often...

As johnny34 has said, I'd usually see that as touting/someone trying to boost their review count but I think there can be legitimate reasons for such reviews if the differences between the two reviewed punts are quite substantial, e.g. duration (30 mins and an overnight) or the services were very different etc. Nonetheless adding a comment to an existing review should usually suffice so as as you say some "official" clarification would be nice.

instant pile-on for anyone with a small number of reviews and posts (me) who likes to be nice about SPs (also me).

Catch 22 where I don't bother to write reviews because I don't have enough reviews to avoid the doubters.

And I like to be friendly and nice to SPs, then everyone thinks I'm a bird/tout/whatever.

I really hope you don't think punters on here aren't nice and friendly to SPs - I very much am in my punts and frankly I think in my reviews to. However the purpose of reviews is not to be nice and friendly to the girl, it's to provide brutally honest and accurate information to help other punters so you shouldn't neglect to mention any bad points or sugar coat things. Having said that, your 1 review seems pretty reasonable and balanced to me and no one criticised it either.

As for "everyone thinking you're a tout/the SP" that's rubbish and you know it. ONE person suggested that and another explicitly declined to say either way but pointed out why your post could be interpreted as touting: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=250135.msg2630338#msg2630338

The reason people are suspicious is because we get a lot of touts on here. To me your posts seemed fine so you shouldn't be so sensitive - just post some more reviews and you'll have no problems. You've been a member here for nearly two years and the first time you were criticised was just over a week ago so don't pretend the reason you don't post reviews is because of others.

Yeah theres always the danger that people will make fake reviews if every one is being forced to make reviews then fake reviews will come up so that people can stay on board thats the thing when people are forced to make reviews.
So it could be conterproductive.

As LLPunting has stated that's obviously not currently the case but presuming you were being hypothetical your concern would be legitimate however I still think fake reviews would be very rare. Almost everyone on here has had at least one punt so there's no reason they can't just leave a real review. The 6 month rule for positives makes things a little harder for some but I think most would just review an older punt and neglect to say when they actually saw the girl rather than posting a fake. Writing a fake review by copying previous reviews while making it different enough not to be obvious or just making something up off the top of your head would probably take longer than just writing a review for a punt you've actually had.

Judging by your other posts for example, I'd be very surprised if you can't review anyone.

As for the very small number of members who haven't had a punt, there's only so much lurking they need to do before they should just get stuck in and see someone.

I don't really begrudge people asking things like "who's good in xxx?" as a first post and not reviewing.  Everyone has to start somewhere, and you don't know whether that person will follow up the advice and potentially save someone else from being ripped off down the line.  At the very least, it opens up some form of dialogue that may yield useful info (although they'll probably never return after being called a troll, be castigated and so on.....)

I do usually begrudge them because as LLPunting has suggested, they're very often the laziest of idiots who don't specify what they want/their tastes and have clearly not bothered to do any research on here or even seemingly a search on AW. Even when they have it's still extremely rare for them to come back and become a useful contributor. While that might be in part due to the reception they often receive, even when they are ignored or even helped, it is still very rare for them to contribute in return, even many months later. I'd also argue someone who can't handle some justified criticism is likely to be too sensitive to be a reliable contributor.

Anyway as for what I think makes a useful contributor, it's basically the same as JonasG has said:
For me personally is whenever you have a negative experience, post it ASAP. That to me is the most useful member. Positives are good to see no doubt, but to be made aware of a shit WG is so important.

We've all had shit punts for whatever reason, attitude or not being responded to and being made to sit in our cars like a prick.

If you're a regular on here, make sure to get it on here ASAP irrespective if they will point you out as that punter.

Anytime I've had a horrible time, the first thing on my mind is to get a review up on here! Half to make myself feel better, half to help other punters.

The amount of times I've liked a profile on AW and then researched on here and seen the negatives is untold. So helpful.

That's a useful member to me.

To elaborate slightly, generally I find the most useful contributions by far to be negative reviews, followed by neutrals (or positives with negative aspects/important details that would make me avoid a girl or at least think twice), followed by positives for unreviewed girls and then those with very few reviews. There can be some exceptions (e.g. depending on the reasons for a negative or neutral review etc). Nonetheless, all reviews are helpful to some degree and there can be posts which are very helpful too but I don't really see any good excuse for having no reviews. Having only a few is perfectly fine as long as that roughly reflects the numbers you've punted/the fact that you stick to only a few/one.

mojo311

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Tbh my reviews would be very basic and boring my sessions are normally just vanilla and nothing more.
But i can imagine being trolled for not saying enough or not being fantasy enough but that kind of stuff dont happen in my case.

Offline NigelF

Tbh my reviews would be very basic and boring my sessions are normally just vanilla and nothing more.
But i can imagine being trolled for not saying enough or not being fantasy enough but that kind of stuff dont happen in my case.

Just describe her appearance and what you did do then. My punts are almost always vanilla too (see my reviews) and I've never been trolled, not even my very first few reviews which were rather poor. Here's a helpful guide (you only really need to know the summary):
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