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I don't believe in all those protein shakes. Just as much a rip off as weight watchers.

If you watch what you eat and the portions youl be fine. Less than 4 teaspoons of sugar is the limit apparently. Thus far I've had 0. It's not hard when you cut out chocolates, desserts and sugar in your tea/coffee.

You'd think gyms popping up everywhere would mean they would be cheaper. I might join a no contract gym in winter when it's harder to jog in the rain/snow.

Roland D Hay

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I agree with some of what you said but you can't eat anything. Most food contains salt and some sugar whether due directly or indirectly by starch.

I have a slow metabolism and as such put on weight easily and find it harder to burn off. Once I am at my ideal weight, I can resume a normal diet provided I train a few times a week. I know this because it worked for me but each to their own I guess. Like my cousin told me, five small meals a day works because you are not starving yourself.

I'm not doing anything of this for a WG. She gets paid to suck my dick regardless of my weight but in terms of stamina, it has to help.

I don't want issues with obesity at a later stage in life and moreover want to be able to buy clothes again without feeling like my stomach is trying to make a prison break. This government won't do fuckall to tackle it and think that labelling food by colours to indicate its healthiness will serve the public well. The problem is that junk food is cheap. Just as an example, Granola is about £4 for a bag normal price. I can pick up the same weight Cheerios for £1.30 in Sainsburys (not that I would eat that shit)

I don't think you understood the significance of what I said... I didn't say eat anything, I said you can eat anything so long as you avoid sugar and white flour. That might sound simple but it isn't. The medical community seem to be catching on at long last that it isn't fat that makes you fat, it is sugar. White flour is highly refined simple carbohydrate and has the same effect on your blood sugar as sugar. There are alternatives, I only buy agave nectar (very low GI) and spelt flour.
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I don't think you understood the significance of what I said... I didn't say eat anything, I said you can eat anything so long as you avoid sugar and white flour. That might sound simple but it isn't. The medical community seem to be catching on at long last that it isn't fat that makes you fat, it is sugar. White flour is highly refined simple carbohydrate and has the same effect on your blood sugar as sugar. There are alternatives, I only buy agave nectar (very low GI) and spelt flour.

I agree with Mr Hay. I've avoided fatty/sugary foods and simply eat less. My diet hasn't changed much, but the quantities are much less (as much as half). And there's now 20% less of me than there was 6 months ago. The effect on me has been dramatic - as much a confidence thing.

That's the trick. Stick to the things you like, avoid what you know is bad. Portion control.......

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I agree with both you guys have said. Sugar is the most harmful thing to have, like I said 4 teaspoons is the recommended daily limit. Easier said then done as one can of coke and you are already past that threshold.

I avoid sugar as much as possible plainly due to the reason that there is a history of diabetics in my family. You don't even crave it after a while.

Roland D Hay

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I agree with both you guys have said. Sugar is the most harmful thing to have, like I said 4 teaspoons is the recommended daily limit. Easier said then done as one can of coke and you are already past that threshold.

I avoid sugar as much as possible plainly due to the reason that there is a history of diabetics in my family. You don't even crave it after a while.

There isn't a recommended daily limit, it might be a maximum daily allowance but either way it's bollocks. You do not need sugar and anything that spikes your blood sugar is toxic because high blood sugar is toxic, it leads to insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome.

Roland D Hay

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Can I also put you right on the myth that salt is bad for you... There is not one shred of scientific evidence to support this claim. If you think there is then please point me in the right direction. It is based on a skewed understanding with regard to the kidneys retaining salt and causing high blood pressure due to associated water retention. That salt retention is caused by a high carb diet. As soon as you stop eating refined carbs and sugar one of the first benefits you'll see is that the kidneys will give up retained salt and the blood pressure will drop. There are complex metabolic reasons for this but trying to reduce your salt intake has no effect whatsoever because the body, as for most things consumed, retains a natural feedback loop to keep salt levels in balance. Similar to how the body works to reduce blood sugar levels if you take too much on board.

domino131

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I don't believe in all those protein shakes. Just as much a rip off as weight watchers.

I think the importance of protein is over-estimated, and people go a bit nuts on trying to get loads of it when they probably don't need to.  Protein seems to be the new nutritional fad in marketing; it's always been a thing for bodybuilding, but there's a wave of new mainstream products which market themselves as having loads of protein - there's an ad campaign in particular that's all about people pulling all-nighter saying 'you need protein'.

I recently calculated my average daily nutrition as I'm trying to get enough to gain weight, and I discovered that even without protein shakes I was getting plenty of protein but not enough carbs.  I think this is probably where a lot of people go wrong as they focus on protein and forget about the carbs, which you also need to gain weight.

On the whole though, fitness and nutrition is a minefield of misinformation.  I've been told so many different things from so many people who all think of themselves as self-taught experts, yet I doubt any of them could say how exactly they know all the stuff they spout.  It's a weirdly personal issue, and people seem to have strong feelings about what they think is correct.  You just have to learn to tune out what people try and tell you.

Roland D Hay

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I think the importance of protein is over-estimated, and people go a bit nuts on trying to get loads of it when they probably don't need to.  Protein seems to be the new nutritional fad in marketing; it's always been a thing for bodybuilding, but there's a wave of new mainstream products which market themselves as having loads of protein - there's an ad campaign in particular that's all about people pulling all-nighter saying 'you need protein'.

I recently calculated my average daily nutrition as I'm trying to get enough to gain weight, and I discovered that even without protein shakes I was getting plenty of protein but not enough carbs.  I think this is probably where a lot of people go wrong as they focus on protein and forget about the carbs, which you also need to gain weight.

On the whole though, fitness and nutrition is a minefield of misinformation.  I've been told so many different things from so many people who all think of themselves as self-taught experts, yet I doubt any of them could say how exactly they know all the stuff they spout.  It's a weirdly personal issue, and people seem to have strong feelings about what they think is correct.  You just have to learn to tune out what people try and tell you.

The importance of protein isn't over estimated, especially if you train, then you need the amino acids for muscle recovery but that is a different issue when talking about weight loss or weight control because we are talking about building muscle rather than losing weight.
Fitness and nutrition is a minefield of misinformation because the only thing most people read are fitness magazines or the daily sensationalist story telling you that eating broccoli every day will put ten years on your life or some other similar shit. You're right though, there is nothing like diet and weight loss to polarise opinion because most people have a lifetime of misinformation to correct. I have read deeply on the subject over a number of years and know more about diet and cholesterol than most doctors, who surprisingly know very little. Most even find that hard to believe. The government and the medical profession got it wrong for years in blaming fat for heart disease and obesity, Ancel Keys has a lot to answer for.
Most high protein shakes and bars etc still contain a lot of carbs, even refined sugar, so any benefit you might have had from not spiking your blood sugar is lost. If you want to read the definitive text the read 'Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes' it is the best book on diet ever written and it is meticulously researched with a long and detailed bibliography. The conclusions are not his, they are naturally drawn from all available scientific evidence.
If you want to gain weight then yes you should probably eat more carbs, especially simple carbs but be prepared for the potential that some people simply do not have the same amount of lipophilic (fat) cells, or the ability to put on weight. That is the genetic factor and it's why we don't get fat on the back of our hands... There are no lipophilic cells there, equally, some of us (not me) have a low incidence of lipophilic cells in other parts of the body and therefore will always struggle to put on weight. It's very easy to discount genetic factors but weight loss or weight gain is rather more complex than diet.

domino131

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The importance of protein isn't over estimated, especially if you train, then you need the amino acids for muscle recovery but that is a different issue when talking about weight loss or weight control because we are talking about building muscle rather than losing weight.

Yeh I know protein is needed but what I meant was that people focus on protein above everything else that's required, and often neglect the other things they need (or do things like deliberately not getting much carbs), or get far more protein than they need.  I see it all the time with people new to training; they want to know all the best ways to get tons of protein and don't care about anything else.

There are some dodgy protein supplements and some good ones, but as I said, I personally worked out that I was getting plenty enough protein according to what I need, without the use of shakes etc, which makes me think a lot of other people use them unnecessarily.

Toby

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Can I also put you right on the myth that salt is bad for you... There is not one shred of scientific evidence to support this claim.

There is evidence, however, that sodium reduction can result in lower pressure in hypertensive people. With lower blood pressure equalling lower morbidly rates, it's just easier to push the message that salt needs to be lowered rather than go into details. Pretty much like how the "eat 5 a day" message was originally proposed as something like "eat 9 a day", but it was felt that was too unrealistic for a lot of people to aim for so they simplified the message. And other such bollocks.

Toby

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I have read deeply on the subject over a number of years and know more about diet and cholesterol than most doctors, who surprisingly know very little.

The giveaway for that is the title General Practitioner = Jack of All Trades. Their knowledge will always be limited, except in areas that they specialise in. Long gone are the days where the patient thought that doctors were infallible gods. I'm just grateful when they fucking listen.  :sarcastic:

Jim Panzee

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I think Punting can cancel out the need to go to the Gym myself. You (well I) go to the Gym to tone up in order to look appealing to women yet with Punting you don't need to be attractive you just need money.

I aught to get back into it as I have put on a few pounds but the people that frequent Gyms get on my tits. :scare:

GeeWiz

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I only buy agave nectar (very low GI).

Xylitol is a good alternative to sugar too.  Especially if you want a granulated not syrup form.

domino131

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You (well I) go to the Gym to tone up in order to look appealing to women yet with Punting you don't need to be attractive you just need money.

For me it's not just about being appealing to women, it's about generally feeling that I look the way I want, and having more self confidence.

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For me it's not just about being appealing to women, it's about generally feeling that I look the way I want, and having more self confidence.

+1

of course as was said before, not to mention feeling fit from the the inside no huffin and puffin if you have to run etc, nothing beats being fit in my book .

IT861

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If there are people in this forum who go to gym a lot or work on their fitness regularly, does regular gym and fitness work aid your sex life (punting or personal)?

Has it made you any better in bed? For example, running helps with stamina but I wonder if that stamina also helps in sex. Similarly if you do strength training/body building, have you noticed it make a difference in bed too?

I cycle or swim upto 5 times a week and maintain quite a good shape which always seems to get picked up on and commented on although i know they have to give everyone compliments i still find it nice.

As from a fitness perspective it also means i can go for as long as i can be bothered for or hold it for.

Offline Sonny Crockett

I would say fitness activities has had a great benefit on my punting life. Reflecting on my six years of punting, I found that my best punting experiences coincided with spells when I engaged in activities such as running or playing basketball. It certainly gives all those muscles a kick. Boy... thinking about it... I cannot wait for the clocks to go forward so I could resume running!!!!