Do escorts earn too much?

[daviemac]

First time?

If that's the case maybe write some reviews to help us fellow punters to not fall into the same trap, don't be selfish and a leech.

I can kind of see where you're coming from but this is the nature of punting, there are risks, you take plenty of losses amongst the wins but there are ways to mitigate this.

Anyway this topic again! When are we going to start discussing the economy and GDP?

How about you give the bloke a chance, he's only been here 4 weeks so hardly a leech and he could well have misjudged the room. He's been given advice by way of the welcome message, let's see if he takes notice of it.

4 weeks and no review compared to 3 years before a review, who's the leech?   

I think a lot of people need to reflect on their own contributions from when they first joined before having a go at new members now.

It's one thing to question his statement and maybe say it's a bit crazy to generalise like he did, but to start calling him a leech and questioning his lack of reviews is something else.

[PilotMan]

He's only been here 4 weeks, it took you 5 months to post a review.   

In old speak that's Pot / Kettle 

As someone much wiser than me once advised, be careful when you point a finger at someone, there's three pointing back at you.

[daviemac]

In old speak that's Pot / Kettle 

We've introduced that welcome message, which does encourage new members to post reviews, in order to try and make the place more welcoming. We try and make the emphasis more on help, advice and guidance so newbies can become valuable members of the community. We all had to start somewhere.

[Mr Sinister]

How about you give the bloke a chance, he's only been here 4 weeks so hardly a leech and he could well have misjudged the room. He's been given advice by way of the welcome message, let's see if he takes notice of it.

4 weeks and no review compared to 3 years before a review, who's the leech?   

I think a lot of people need to reflect on their own contributions from when they first joined before having a go at new members now.

It's one thing to question his statement and maybe say it's a bit crazy to generalise like he did, but to start calling him a leech and questioning his lack of reviews is something else.

Fuck me Dave outing everyone 

[RedKettle]

We've introduced that welcome message, which does encourage new members to post reviews, in order to try and make the place more welcoming. We try and make the emphasis more on help, advice and guidance so newbies can become valuable members of the community. We all had to start somewhere.

Which is great 

Certainly been cases in the past where newbies have been torn apart for no good reason.

[Stevelondon]

I don't care how much they earn. But.. Most of them give very poor service, look bad and they want  big money per hour. All they care about is cheating a guy out of money because they're too lazy to go to work.

But if an escort wants £400 an hour and has a great service and looks 10/10 and earns 10k per week I don't mind. Great for her.

Most are not even worth £100 an hour

Good first post mate.
Let’s hope they get better as time goes on.

Utter tripe !!!

[sim0256]

Big wild assumptions from OSCAR . A man who knows so much he doesn't even bother to post or review !

[tightfoot69]

Has my recent review been moved to the wrong place as punishment for this thread? 🤣. I write reviews to help other punters. I have experienced the crap punt already so you are not harming me.

Bizarre.

[Punterperson1971]

I can't wait to read your first review, Oh the anticipation....

I think you may be in for a long wait.
Back on track I don’t care how much they earn I pay them they give service I leave happy(well most of time)

[hendrix]

I don't think there's any such thing as "earns too much"

[daviemac]

Has my recent review been moved to the wrong place as punishment for this thread? 🤣. I write reviews to help other punters. I have experienced the crap punt already so you are not harming me.

Bizarre.

What are you on about, reviews don't get moved as 'punishment.  It's a massage review so a helper moved it to the massage review section, if you think that's incorrect then report it, or do you expect the mods to read every single thread and see the comment you made.

[daviemac]

Big wild assumptions from OSCAR . A man who knows so much he doesn't even bother to post or review !

It's been 4 weeks for him but it took you 7 months to post your first review, care to explain why? 

It has been made very clear on this thread that we should be giving new members a chance and not commenting on their lack of reviews.

[marc_hotsteppa]

Edit/ nevermind

[daviemac]

Big wild assumptions from OSCAR . A man who knows so much he doesn't even bother to post or review !

Care to answer the question I asked.

[sim0256]

Hands up to Daviemac, I apologise  to you , to Oscar and the whole site. I was browsing and read some comments then skipped the rest to comment. I totally did not see the ones relating to new members being given an ease in period. I can say no more other to welcome all new members to the site and hope to enjoy their contributions in the future. I stand chastened

[Fuzzyduck]

We've introduced that welcome message, which does encourage new members to post reviews, in order to try and make the place more welcoming. We try and make the emphasis more on help, advice and guidance so newbies can become valuable members of the community. We all had to start somewhere.

The welcome message is a good move. Do new members receive it automatically on joining?

[Punterperson1971]

Hands up to Daviemac, I apologise  to you , to Oscar and the whole site. I was browsing and read some comments then skipped the rest to comment. I totally did not see the ones relating to new members being given an ease in period. I can say no more other to welcome all new members to the site and hope to enjoy their contributions in the future. I stand chastened

Same didn’t realise Oscar was here a month

[daviemac]

The welcome message is a good move. Do new members receive it automatically on joining?

I think that was the intention but don't think it was implemented, I noticed Head1 posted it on a thread where a newbie's first post had to be approved so if I see one where it's appropriate I'll post it.

We are trying to make the place more welcoming which can only benefit everyone.

[Jeffe]

Op doesn’t seem to have taken into account that independents probably do pay tax while those with agencies or pimps aren’t keeping all of that hypothetical £150 per hour either. Then there’s quiet days, time off or not being able to work while on period to consider so income is not predictable. Potential high costs for some on lingerie, make up, fake tans, hair and nails etc. to maintain a look (perhaps even surgeries like breast enhancements for some). Then add on rent or hotel/travel costs for those that tour

Also bear in mind there isn’t a pension or real longevity in it as a career so they have to earn enough to cover for the future too (smart ones seem to invest while they are at peak earning).

And then it’s having to deal with potentially dangerous punters or those who take EAS too far etc. as well as those who are ugly, smelly or just a crap shag!

At the top end, earnings could potentially be high but seems to me like a tough job so I personally don’t begrudge an SP what she charges and earns. If she doesn’t deliver she’ll get fewer bookings and earn less while those that do deliver have earned the right in my book to earn well

Sorry for the rant but I fundamentally disagree with you op

[Thephoenix]

Unfortunately there seems to be many occasions when the default response to new members is to see who's first to give them some stick, with a few others getting on the bandwagon to pile on.

Yes, sometimes it's deserved. New members need to tread carefully, but often a friendly welcome and some guidance is more appropriate.

[Fuzzyduck]

I think that was the intention but don't think it was implemented, I noticed Head1 posted it on a thread where a newbie's first post had to be approved so if I see one where it's appropriate I'll post it.

We are trying to make the place more welcoming which can only benefit everyone.

Agreed, though if newbies like Oscar come in swinging it will certainly get a reaction, as you predicted it would.

[Hanna Lorde (Service Provider)]

Do you think SPs earn too much or do they deserve it for getting intimate with us ugly sods?

If an SP works 3 days a week and charges £150 per hour she would probably clear 3 grand a week. So roughly £150,000 a year tax free. No wonder a lot of women choose it instead of a proper job.

Can I ask where your assume we’re storing this tax free 150k?  Under our mattresses or in the coffee jar 🙄 Possibly rocking up with brief cases full of cash to pay mortgages etc?

You can’t buy many things of value these days with cash.  It’s largely debit/credit.  Believe it or not, there are many of us out there that are legit and contribute to society just like other self employed folk 

[akauya]

What I’m most interested about is why does it bug some men so much having to pay for sexual services (i.e. to sex workers) and it doesn’t seem to bug them as much to pay for other services they buy.  I have posted on other similar threads, half jokingly, that we should also complain about paying solicitors, plumbers, IT support guys, etc. just to comply with equal opportunities.

It seems when it comes to paying for sex there’s envy or resentment about it (maybe resentment is the wrong word? Happy to be corrected.)

I wonder if some gay guys resent having to pay for rent boys as much as some straight men resent having to pay women for sex.

[JustaPunter]

Well a lot of fluffies seem to be very sensitive to an honest question.

I am not saying they don’t deserve to earn this amount. I actually think most do, especially the ones who provide a good service on a regular basis and provide the services advertised enthusiastically.

I have just had two crappy punts which maybe why the question popped into my head.

So you have based an opinion of every SW based on two bad punts?

A bit of a generalisation isn’t it?

[dunhill]

Can I ask where your assume we’re storing this tax free 150k?  Under our mattresses or in the coffee jar  Possibly rocking up with brief cases full of cash to pay mortgages etc?

You can’t buy many things of value these days with cash.  It’s largely debit/credit.  Believe it or not, there are many of us out there that are legit and contribute to society just like other self employed folk 

You forgot to include our cavernous vaginas 

[JustaPunter]

By proper job I mean one that pays Tax. If you do pay tax then I apologise for my ignorance. I just assumed most didn’t.

You do realise it’s the cheaper end of the market, with a Sergei in the picture, and only in the UK for a month or so that are more likely to not be paying Tax?

Of course you didn’t

[FLYING BLUE]

Unfortunately there seems to be many occasions when the default response to new members is to see who's first to give them some stick, with a few others getting on the bandwagon to pile on.

Yes, sometimes it's deserved. New members need to tread carefully, but often a friendly welcome and some guidance is more appropriate.

Agreed - it's quite simple to check how long someone has been a member before slating them 

[PilotMan]

I don't think there's any such thing as "earns too much"

Well said

[PilotMan]

Unfortunately there seems to be many occasions when the default response to new members is to see who's first to give them some stick, with a few others getting on the bandwagon to pile on.

Yes, sometimes it's deserved. New members need to tread carefully, but often a friendly welcome and some guidance is more appropriate.

+1 Share the love

There are some members who will never review or contribute no matter what. But there must be many more who are happy to share but might have a fear of being flamed. I think if a member breaks their review cherry and gets positive encouragement (even if the review isn't particularly brilliant) it will motivate them to review again.

[myothernameis]

Unfortunately there seems to be many occasions when the default response to new members is to see who's first to give them some stick, with a few others getting on the bandwagon to pile on.

Yes, sometimes it's deserved. New members need to tread carefully, but often a friendly welcome and some guidance is more appropriate.

With some forums, they have a sticky post, where new members can introduce them self's, and think something like this would work well here with new members

[Colston36]

You forgot to include our cavernous vaginas 

Rather a daunting thought.

[PilotMan]

With some forums, they have a sticky post, where new members can introduce them self's, and think something like this would work well here with new members

Something along the lines of...

I work as a (job title) for (company name) in (Town), I have a Wife and two kids as well as a Golden Labrador. When I'm not punting I can usually be found at (Town) Golf Course, where I'm the Treasurer. I also have a passion for cars and spend many hours polishing my classic Jaguar and attending owners club meets. I'm 6'1" and weigh 98KG, so I'm dieting quite a bit now and on a vegetarian diet.

 

[PilotMan]

You forgot to include our cavernous vaginas 

Does that mean that spare coins go in your anus?

[whiskeygogo]

What I’m most interested about is why does it bug some men so much having to pay for sexual services (i.e. to sex workers) and it doesn’t seem to bug them as much to pay for other services they buy.  I have posted on other similar threads, half jokingly, that we should also complain about paying solicitors, plumbers, IT support guys, etc. just to comply with equal opportunities.

It seems when it comes to paying for sex there’s envy or resentment about it (maybe resentment is the wrong word? Happy to be corrected.)

There is definitely some resentment, I think part of it is that free sex is seen culturally as a reward for being successful, so having to pay for it reinforces the idea they are inadequate as a man.

Many women (including some sex workers) also see it this way, so it's not just a male thing

[versace]

Most of them earn more than all of us here. But as we know it comes at a cost. I couldn’t care less how much they earn or that they earn loads more than me.

[hendrix]

Most of them earn more than all of us here. But as we know it comes with a cost. I couldn’t care less how much they earn or that they earn loads more than me.

Not the case. I don't know what UKP punters earn, but I'm pretty sure that I've never met an escort (or even heard of one) that earns what I do. Which isn't a brag, just a fact. And, I don't think I'm that unusual in the world of punters, which is way bigger than UKP.

[dunhill]

Does that mean that spare coins go in your anus?

Coins?  What are they?  Unless it's a bundle of £50 notes, I'm not interested.

And no, it's a hostile environment, so nothing is welcome.

[dunhill]

Not the case. I don't know what UKP punters earn, but I'm pretty sure that I've never met an escort (or even heard of one) that earns what I do. Which isn't a brag, just a fact. And, I don't think I'm that unusual in the world of punters, which is way bigger than UKP.

I agree with all of this, particularly your final sentence.

[versace]

Not the case. I don't know what UKP punters earn, but I'm pretty sure that I've never met an escort (or even heard of one) that earns what I do. Which isn't a brag, just a fact. And, I don't think I'm that unusual in the world of punters, which is way bigger than UKP.

So you are on at least 10K a month?! Fair play mate.

[Thecunninglinguist]

I suppose the proper answer is they earn what the market will stand for their services?

[threechilliman]

So you are on at least 10K a month?! Fair play mate.

I think you may have under estimated what Mr Hendrix earns. £10k is what he spends on punts in a month!

[Payyourwaymate]

What I’m most interested about is why does it bug some men so much having to pay for sexual services (i.e. to sex workers) and it doesn’t seem to bug them as much to pay for other services they buy.  I have posted on other similar threads, half jokingly, that we should also complain about paying solicitors, plumbers, IT support guys, etc. just to comply with equal opportunities.

It seems when it comes to paying for sex there’s envy or resentment about it (maybe resentment is the wrong word? Happy to be corrected.)

I wonder if some gay guys resent having to pay for rent boys as much as some straight men resent having to pay women for sex.

I can answer that from my perspective of what I experienced in the past. It was ego. As soon as I relinquished my ego from paying for sex I could not care less. Part of the process for letting my ego go was from conducting a cost - benefit analysis and also introspection of why should my ego be linked to something so trivial. Only when I realised I made sex a much bigger deal in my head and linked it to my self worth when it really should hold no value, but due to social conditioning I held alot of value to it and I stopped, I began to see paying for sex as a hassle free experience and a much more beneficial alternative. It felt like a weight was lifted of my shoulders  . Paying for other services have no social links to it in terms of ego to be able to acquire, there is no judgement if you cannot do your own plumbing compared to having to pay for sex for which people can get for "free". The catch is that nothing is really free.

Sorry for the derail.

[dunhill]

I can answer that from my perspective of what I experienced in the past. It was ego. As soon as I relinquished my ego from paying for sex I could not care less. Part of the process for letting my ego go was from conducting a cost - benefit analysis and also introspection of why should my ego be linked to something so trivial. Only when I realised I made sex a much bigger deal in my head and linked it to my self worth when it really should hold no value, but due to social conditioning I held alot of value to it and I stopped, I began to see paying for sex as a hassle free experience and a much more beneficial alternative. It felt like a weight was lifted of my shoulders  . Paying for other services have no social links to it in terms of ego to be able to acquire, there is no judgement if you cannot do your own plumbing compared to having to pay for sex for which people can get for "free". The catch is that nothing is really free.

Sorry for the derail.

I appreciate your candour, and completely understand the liberation this has afforded you. The sentence in bold particularly resonated, although for me, it was more I began to see being paid for sex as a hassle free experience and a much more beneficial alternative.

On my part, this an entente cordiale and I wish you well.

[versace]

I think you may have under estimated what Mr Hendrix earns. £10k is what he spends on punts in a month!

  Utter rubbish. I hope you don’t actually believe that.

[PilotMan]

So you are on at least 10K a month?! Fair play mate.

If you live in Central London and want to enjoy it properly, £10k per month is the minimum you need. After tax there isn't much left of £10k.

[jimbobted]

If you live in Central London and want to enjoy it properly, £10k per month is the minimum you need. After tax there isn't much left of £10k.

Indeed. I live in rural East Anglia and earn £8k about to go to £10k a month and there's no fucking way I could afford to live in London, certainly nowhere in London I'd actually want to live!

[tightfoot69]

What are you on about, reviews don't get moved as 'punishment.  It's a massage review so a helper moved it to the massage review section, if you think that's incorrect then report it, or do you expect the mods to read every single thread and see the comment you made.

I reported it and it still hasn’t been moved to the correct section. It just seems a coincidence that this happened straight after I started this thread.

[Mr_Shins]

I looked up my record and did my first review just 2 days after joining the site, and then another one just over a week later.

My 2nd review, in which the woman kicked me a few times, must have raised a number of eyebrows here given I wasn't yet "known".

[PilotMan]

I looked up my record and did my first review just 2 days after joining the site, and then another one just over a week later.

My 2nd review, in which the woman kicked me a few times, must have raised a number of eyebrows here given I wasn't yet "known".

Your username is a giveaway, I do enjoy reading your reviews.

[daviemac]

I reported it and it still hasn’t been moved to the correct section. It just seems a coincidence that this happened straight after I started this thread.

You said it should be in the East Mids review section and it's in the East Mids review section. You didn't say which review section and it has massage in the title.

I've already told you one of the forum helpers moved it in the first place because it has massage in the title, nothing to do with this thread so stop being paranoid.