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[Zero to Hero]

So I've been seeing a girl who i met through SA for a few months quite regularly and it was good fun and good VFM. She was always punctual and liked to pay her way, drinks and dinner wisem I did a few overnights with her and the meets just got better and better, that is until the last overnight.... From the get go it was a shambles! she was 2 hours late with no excuse, then went out for a fag for 30mins before coming back with a bottle of vodka....which turns out she'd stole from the hotel bar. long story short hotel security showed up and kicked us out the hotel. She offered to return the fee, but then felt "stressed" about the situation and left but we should try again and i quite bluntly said maybe not. (still didn't get the fee back)

fast foward a week later, i get a text asking when our next meet is...no apology for her behaviour or forgetting to return my money..

I swear some girls are actually delusional to think behaviour like that is acceptable when conducting what is essentially a business transaction..

has anyone else had a similar sort of thing where a pretty consistent regular just does a total U-turn?

[Jeff_withpetersen]

What do you define as good vfm? I'm curious as to what an 'arrangement' really costs.

[scutty brown]

coke head?

[Plan R]

Yeah thats what I thought... showbiz powder or else a complete nutter.

[bilbo]

99 times out of 100 you never pay a SB till the meeting is over

[vw]

coke head?

We agree again ! 

[Zero to Hero]

What do you define as good vfm? I'm curious as to what an 'arrangement' really costs.

it varied, a 2 hour meet cost 80 and it always over ran.
Overnights were 150 and usually lasted from early afternoon to checkout.

Yeah i thought she could have been on something how she acted,I've ended the arrangement as discretion is a must with me and getting chucked out of a hotel for a girls behaviour isn't what I'd call discrete.

[Zimbaman]

it varied, a 2 hour meet cost 80 and it always over ran.
Overnights were 150 and usually lasted from early afternoon to checkout.

150 for an overnight???? I don't even know where to start with that one...

[puntingpumping1920]

it varied, a 2 hour meet cost 80 and it always over ran.
Overnights were 150 and usually lasted from early afternoon to checkout.

Yeah i thought she could have been on something how she acted,I've ended the arrangement as discretion is a must with me and getting chucked out of a hotel for a girls behaviour isn't what I'd call discrete.

 
£150.00 for an overnight....that is a great deal. How many times do you see her a month, as that price is relatively low for even foreign woman with a "manager"
 

 

[colchesterpete]

Can you name her? I had a bad experience last month. I posted a review about it. I.m wondering if its the same person? She was a coke head loony also!   

[Jeff_withpetersen]

Why would a woman who has decided to go the whole hog with sex for money brand herself a 'sugar baby' and charge £150 a night when she could set herself up a profile on AW and get twice that, or three times if she could find someone to pay the prices they try and charge? Don't get me wrong it's a great deal for the guy but what goes through a woman's head when she does this?

I think the OP's story actually serves as a cautionary tale of why I'll just carry on paying that bit more for WGs than even bother exploring this sugar baby thing ... a well-reviewed one probably won't let her guard down and start snorting coke before drawing unwanted attention in public!

[fredpunter]

Why would a woman who has decided to go the whole hog with sex for money brand herself a 'sugar baby' and charge £150 a night when she could set herself up a profile on AW and get twice that, or three times if she could find someone to pay the prices they try and charge? Don't get me wrong it's a great deal for the guy but what goes through a woman's head when she does this?

Hey!!! Don't go giving them ideas.

[Steely Dan]

Yes the girls are taking cash for sex, so they are prostitutes.  But the whole Seeking arrangements / Sugar baby thing is quite different to escorting.  That could be why that Admin considers it off topic.

[vw]

Yes the girls are taking cash for sex, so they are prostitutes.  But the whole Seeking arrangements / Sugar baby thing is quite different to escorting.  That could be why that Admin considers it off topic.

Admin posted this the other day

Does anyone really believe "sugar daddism" is not prostitution?

Think its in off topic to keep the prossies in denial away from here

[king tarzan]

Sugar daddy materialism translated cash for sex...
Sugar daddy broke arrangements terminated that simple

As the great mike tyson said
" MONEY GONE WHORES GONE"

[Melfort212]

Why would a woman who has decided to go the whole hog with sex for money brand herself a 'sugar baby' and charge £150 a night when she could set herself up a profile on AW and get twice that, or three times if she could find someone to pay the prices they try and charge? Don't get me wrong it's a great deal for the guy but what goes through a woman's head when she does this?

I think the OP's story actually serves as a cautionary tale of why I'll just carry on paying that bit more for WGs than even bother exploring this sugar baby thing ... a well-reviewed one probably won't let her guard down and start snorting coke before drawing unwanted attention in public!

They probably don't wanna shag random guys all the time though, probably just want benefits of shagging one guy regularly for cash.

[bigmanbigman]

Its a feel good factor .suger is sweet .
Unlike brass .whore .hooker
No so sweet

[TPreston]

They probably don't wanna shag random guys all the time though, probably just want benefits of shagging one guy regularly for cash.

Yeah its semantics. And the idea they can vet the guy before makes things less whorish.

They only get paid when laid - so its sex work. But the lines are a little blurred.

The hidden tread is as much to deter the nosey women as much as the blurred lines.

But as discussed itss frought with drama and unprofessional attitudes. Lots of wasted time and dead ends 

[Revolver69]

Sugar daddy materialism translated cash for sex...
Sugar daddy broke arrangements terminated that simple

As the great mike tyson said
" MONEY GONE WHORES GONE"

Nice quote if its true, but I couldn't find it.

It did lead me to this interesting line though in this interview... External Link/Members Only

"he lowers his voice when I ask how many women he’s slept with. “I never counted. But I had no concept of love before, so if a woman liked to kiss me and do nice things to me, I saw that as her loving me and me loving her. Hell, I’ve been in love with every prostitute I ever slept with. I had a pretty primitive view of things back then.”

Mike Tyson a fluffy.... who'da thought! 

[Jumping Jack Flash]

SA is great fun and I've had some of the best sex of my life with SB's, although there have been some pretty average fucks too!

As was pointed out earlier, the lines are blurred but the point is SB's don't see themselves as hookers. SA is like shagging civvies who don't have that jaded WG view of sex. I enjoy SA so much that I've seen one WG in the last 15 months. Before discovering SA I was seeing at least two a month. If you're prepared to put the time in and deal with the time wasters, fakes and scammers then there's some real diamond SB's be uncovered and fucked senseless.

[CityTillIDie]

SA is great fun and I've had some of the best sex of my life with SB's, although there have been some pretty average fucks too!

As was pointed out earlier, the lines are blurred but the point is SB's don't see themselves as hookers. SA is like shagging civvies who don't have that jaded WG view of sex. I enjoy SA so much that I've seen one WG in the last 15 months. Before discovering SA I was seeing at least two a month. If you're prepared to put the time in and deal with the time wasters, fakes and scammers then there's some real diamond SB's be uncovered and fucked senseless.

+1 for sure!

CTID

[MilleMiglia]

So I've been seeing a girl who i met through SA for a few months quite regularly and it was good fun and good VFM. She was always punctual and liked to pay her way, drinks and dinner wisem I did a few overnights with her and the meets just got better and better, that is until the last overnight.... From the get go it was a shambles! she was 2 hours late with no excuse, then went out for a fag for 30mins before coming back with a bottle of vodka....which turns out she'd stole from the hotel bar. long story short hotel security showed up and kicked us out the hotel. She offered to return the fee, but then felt "stressed" about the situation and left but we should try again and i quite bluntly said maybe not. (still didn't get the fee back)

fast foward a week later, i get a text asking when our next meet is...no apology for her behaviour or forgetting to return my money..

I swear some girls are actually delusional to think behaviour like that is acceptable when conducting what is essentially a business transaction..

has anyone else had a similar sort of thing where a pretty consistent regular just does a total U-turn?

Just seen this and sadly an emphatic yes. Have briefly mentioned this before but my regular, who I'd taken away on four long trips previously, ran off with the money on the fifth, after the first night of  a five night booking. Discussed the details later with a more worldly wise (than myself) SP, who told me it was down to cocaine.   

With hindsight, numerous red flags, but having not had any problems before, told myself I was being paranoid.

[bigmanbigman]

Women's heads are f##ked add coke and megga f##ked