Can an escort be too hot?

[big-al93]

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Paying uglies to punt with. How low must someone's self-esteem be m.

I don't think he was quite saying that. And who are we to decide who is an uglie in the first place. A lot of guys prefer a milf over a teen, as long as the guy booking finds her attractive, then who cares?

What I still find slightly odd is that there is no real correlation between size/attractiveness and price, before I first indulged, I always assumed that older, bigger, or less conventionally attractive women would charge less than younger, slimmer, beautiful girls. Obviously I know realise that there is a lot more to it and attitude, services and being able to at least seem interested are things that make a lot of difference to the experience as a whole. But I still wouldn't punt someone I didn't find somewhat attractive.

[jamiekinkxxx]

100% they can be. I mean it won't happen often, BUT 100% I have met with an escort who I found so hot it was almost intimidating.

This was a good 10-15 years ago. She was a stunner. It knocked me sideways TBH, natural beauty, an inbuilt sexiness and just an incredible personality too. Total package, total babe... in a word a...

Super Minx

She was expensive too which just added to the fact that I just failed to enjoy it as much as I should. This was simply because I felt she was just so fucking hot!

An odd experience / feeling that thankfully has only ever happened once.

[Payyourwaymate]

In my opinion, the more attractive a woman is, the higher the likelihood she can have the chance to be involved in, is already dabbling or has dabbled in sex work at some level if she is in fashion/modelling, social media, industries that involve looks. Not all runway models have work all the time year round, yatch girls are escorts but to the masses would be seen as too pretty to escort. Does the logic still hold up that an escort can be too hot?

There are private groups of agencies where women of such an elk get shipped off to rich clients and most would say they are too hot to escort going by some of the comments on this thread. Years ago there was a big website exposing women that would be seen as too hot to escort going over to dubai to get shitted on  . So how can an escort be to hot? There's been victoria secret models telling tales in the past of receiving offers of money for sexual favours and rejecting, how many accepted the offer? Are they not escorts now?

Even over here with agencies there are private galleries of women that some would say are too hot to escort but only regulars of the agencies have access to them. There are women in other continents that escort that if they made it here people would say are too hot to escort. The quality here is just that bad.

It's really the opposite in reality, the hotter she is the more likely she is escorting at some level if she solely uses her looks to make money, or would have the temptation to escort/offers for sexual favours from men. We just don't see it through the known portals of AW and the like.

To be honest, once again in my opinion; to say an escort is too hot is coming from a place of putting a womans looks on a pedestal, of oh she is so beautiful why is she doing this? Why do I have access to her, I should not have access to someone this attractive. It's pointless to think like that. You would only be doing a disservice to yourself.

[jamiekinkxxx]

I'm not sure the question is "...too hot to escort" is it? I thought it was too hot for a punter? As I mentioned above I have only ever felt that / been in that situation once. I have seen many many very sexy escorts, many beautiful, many very fun, but only one where her looks, sexiness and personality really intimated me... too me that = she was too hot.

[alabama1]

I'm not sure the question is ...too hot to escort" is it? I thought it was too hot for a punter? As I mentioned above I have only ever felt that / been in that situation once. I have seen many many very sexy escorts, many beautiful, many very fun, but only one where her looks, sexiness and personality really intimated me... too me that = she was too hot.

[jamiekinkxxx]

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[Payyourwaymate]

I'm not sure the question is "...too hot to escort" is it? I thought it was too hot for a punter? As I mentioned above I have only ever felt that / been in that situation once. I have seen many many very sexy escorts, many beautiful, many very fun, but only one where her looks, sexiness and personality really intimated me... too me that = she was too hot.

The title, Can an escort be too hot? To my interpretation implies that there is a looks and or persona threshold that women that reach such a threshold should perhaps not be doing that line of work or there should be a level of inaccessibility. My post was not directed at you, I was speaking in general because I also have had instances in the past where I have come across women and thought she's so attractive why is she doing this or being intimidated... and really those thoughts just came from me projecting unnecessary feelings towards the situation.

My point is an escort can never be too hot. The underlying thought process of thinking a woman is too attractive to provide sexual services or to be intimidated by an attractive one that does, is the issue for me because subconsiously or consciously the individual is putting that woman above themselves.

Just to clarify I was not talking about your post  .

[jamiekinkxxx]

The title, Can an escort be too hot? To my interpretation implies that there is a looks and or persona threshold that women that reach such a threshold should perhaps not be doing that line of work or there should be a level of inaccessibility. My post was not directed at you, I was speaking in general because I also have had instances in the past where I have come across women and thought she's so attractive why is she doing this or being intimidated... and really those thoughts just came from me projecting unnecessary feelings towards the situation.

My point is an escort can never be too hot. The underlying thought process of thinking a woman is too attractive to provide sexual services or to be intimidated by an attractive one that does, is the issue for me because subconsiously or consciously the individual is putting that woman above themselves.

Just to clarify I was not talking about your post  .

I didn't think you were talking about my post. I just thought you had misinterpreted what the OP had said in his opening post.

[shortbread]

Yeah, I meant can an escort to be too hot for you to want to punt her.

I genuinely didn't know if this was an issue with my self esteem or if it was a common feeling. It's seems from the replies to be mostly the former. I now just need to work on my self esteem and mindset around punting.

[Handel2020]

Yep, self-esteem I would say. I can understand how someone could get there. In the dating / meeting women world I have had some good looking women who have given me some awful reactions and behaviour including playing on my self-esteem issues. This has happened a couple of times when punting but then I have seen upwards of 60 women. For the most part even the good looking women have been friendly.

[alabama1]

Yep, self-esteem I would say. I can understand how someone could get there. In the dating / meeting women world I have had some good looking women who have given me some awful reactions and behaviour including playing on my self-esteem issues. This has happened a couple of times when punting but then I have seen upwards of 60 women. For the most part even the good looking women have been friendly.

Are you surprised by this ?.I have known a lot of friendly stunners, but also a lot of miserable ugly women. You won't know until you talk to them.

[Handel2020]

Are you surprised by this ?.I have known a lot of friendly stunners, but also a lot of miserable ugly women. You won't know until you talk to them.

Not surprised but there is a reasonable bias in my view of things since I have not known any friendly stunners at all socially. I won't go into too much detail but tried to meet women in bars / clubs etc. I didn't have many other avenues open to me, and in those environments the good looking ones were never friendly. Hence I understand how some punters could have that view of the world and themselves.

[PilotMan]

Not surprised but there is a reasonable bias in my view of things since I have not known any friendly stunners at all socially. I won't go into too much detail but tried to meet women in bars / clubs etc. I didn't have many other avenues open to me, and in those environments the good looking ones were never friendly. Hence I understand how some punters could have that view of the world and themselves.

If you understood the mechanics of chatting to women in bars clubs, you would have had a different success, and viewpoint now.

The problem with stunners is that they get approached incessantly, and they hear the same thing over and over. The average guy will approach her the same way as she's had all her life, you gotta be different. You were just the same as all the others, and for girls like that it becomes tiresome.

There's a great book by Neil Strauss, The Game. Read that and you will understand where you went wrong.

[Handel2020]

There's a great book by Neil Strauss, The Game. Read that and you will understand where you went wrong.

Thanks but the whole PUA thing is arguably the blind leading the blind. I think there will be some guys with decent social skills who will write books but I don't think the guys who are really struggling can change an awful lot by reading about peacocking or whatever it is. They might get motivation but there probably is no magic pill. I think Strauss was already successful in life before he wrote that book.

[PilotMan]

Thanks but the whole PUA thing is arguably the blind leading the blind. I think there will be some guys with decent social skills who will write books but I don't think the guys who are really struggling can change an awful lot by reading about peacocking or whatever it is. They might get motivation but there probably is no magic pill. I think Strauss was already successful in life before he wrote that book.

The blind leading the blind, how do you come to that conclusion?

Strauss was a writer for Rolling Stone, he isn't good looking nor did he have financial success at the time of writing the book. By his own admission, he had low social skills and no success with women.

What I've seen many guys do is use the most lame, boring and overused chat up lines, even really good looking guys fail with that approach.

Pretty girls are continually bombarded and they have seen it all before. So they have to thin out the approaches and will often only allow a good looking guy to progress further, only for the guy to fail further on because he's not interesting enough to keep her, or in fact anyone's, attention.

That leads to the incel culture, with men blaming women for only considering the good looking guys.

The real problem is that most guys are fucking boring. And if they do have mates, even they don't want to hang around them! So why would any woman?

[Rock123]

The hotter the better. That’s the appeal. Have sex with someone I could never get in real life.

Exactly how I feel.

[Handel2020]

The blind leading the blind, how do you come to that conclusion?

Strauss was a writer for Rolling Stone, he isn't good looking nor did he have financial success at the time of writing the book. By his own admission, he had low social skills and no success with women.

What I've seen many guys do is use the most lame, boring and overused chat up lines, even really good looking guys fail with that approach.

It's interesting but I read about this stuff years ago. Strauss had exactly what the other PUA gurus recommended faking - status. He might say he had low social skills but this is all relative. Even without the marketing or negative terms (PUA, Incel etc.) there were always guys who were in this boat. To be fair the hot woman in a club is doing exactly what men are doing, looking for attractive potential mates. They don't care much about your hobbies or friends when they are making superficial judgements in that environment. They want to meet someone who is good looking. I also worked at some nightclub events, and it was the same situation there. That's the reality. I'm not putting down the idea of self improvement but there are limits to this stuff.

[PilotMan]

It's interesting but I read about this stuff years ago. Strauss had exactly what the other PUA gurus recommended faking - status. He might say he had low social skills but this is all relative. Even without the marketing or negative terms (PUA, Incel etc.) there were always guys who were in this boat. To be fair the hot woman in a club is doing exactly what men are doing, looking for attractive potential mates. They don't care much about your hobbies or friends when they are making superficial judgements in that environment. They want to meet someone who is good looking. I also worked at some nightclub events, and it was the same situation there. That's the reality. I'm not putting down the idea of self improvement but there are limits to this stuff.

I agree with you and the whole idea behind the Game is exactly this, people are looking at the superficial. So if you want to get ahead, you have to be different, otherwise you're just another random guy, or AFC as a PUA would say.

What's the alternative, stay as you are, do what everyone else does? Then you become an "also ran", and that applies to just about everything in life in my experience.

[Doc Holliday]

It's interesting but I read about this stuff years ago. Strauss had exactly what the other PUA gurus recommended faking - status. He might say he had low social skills but this is all relative. Even without the marketing or negative terms (PUA, Incel etc.) there were always guys who were in this boat. To be fair the hot woman in a club is doing exactly what men are doing, looking for attractive potential mates. They don't care much about your hobbies or friends when they are making superficial judgements in that environment. They want to meet someone who is good looking. I also worked at some nightclub events, and it was the same situation there. That's the reality. I'm not putting down the idea of self improvement but there are limits to this stuff.

I agree with this. It was that way when 'I was a lad' at school and at University way back in the early seventies.

There would be a relatively small number of males who would be very sexually active with multiple conquests based almost entirely on their looks rather than their social skills.
In fact by the time I qualified many of my colleagues would either still be virgins or had managed to forge a relationship with just the one partner, usually as a result of getting to know each other properly by social interaction. Those relationships on the whole tended to be very strong and long lasting.

That was the reality. What appears to have changed (if it has?) is that many young males think they have an equal right to be part of the first group I described.

[nbarnes]

The blind leading the blind, how do you come to that conclusion?

Strauss was a writer for Rolling Stone, he isn't good looking nor did he have financial success at the time of writing the book. By his own admission, he had low social skills and no success with women.

What I've seen many guys do is use the most lame, boring and overused chat up lines, even really good looking guys fail with that approach.

Pretty girls are continually bombarded and they have seen it all before. So they have to thin out the approaches and will often only allow a good looking guy to progress further, only for the guy to fail further on because he's not interesting enough to keep her, or in fact anyone's, attention.

That leads to the incel culture, with men blaming women for only considering the good looking guys.

The real problem is that most guys are fucking boring. And if they do have mates, even they don't want to hang around them! So why would any woman?

Reminds me of that quote - "A woman gets a life by getting a man, and a man gets a woman by having a life."

[PilotMan]

Reminds me of that quote - "A woman gets a life by getting a man, and a man gets a woman by having a life."

I've not had that one before, but there's certainly times when that applies