Do you dare criticise a WG in session?

[B4bcock]

I've had many a punt which has been fantastic apart from one thing, which is always correctable, but which would require me pointing out a shortcoming in the SP concerned.   I've been met at the door by gorgeous girls dressed in grunge, been kissed passionately by girls with stale breath, pushed a sub girls arms above her head and got a whiff of smelly armpits and, worst of all, withdrawn after a great session and released a stench like Grimsby dockside.    I'm sure I'm not alone.

The thing is, I never mention these things.   If I go to a restaurant and something is wrong, I call the waiter and get it sorted.   No problem.     But, SP's are women and my experience is that women hate criticism and tend to react agressively rather than giving it due consideration (feel free to call me sexist at this point).   So, am I wrong to not carefully point out something of which they may not even be aware and which may help them to improve their service or am I right to not mention it and avoid any possible confrontation or fallout?

[winkywanky]

Interesting post.

Of course you're right, any of the above would certainly bring about a bad reaction from a WG, even if couched in the most euphemistic way.

If it was an otherwise excellent punt you'd probably even go back a second time, on the chance that whatever aspect slightly spoiled the first occasion, wouldn't be in evidence the next time.

However, if you so much as dared to vaguely allude to a smelly minge, smelly armpits, smelly breath, or even to a slightly underwhelming mode of dress for the occasion, you would be met with frosty knickers and a direction to fuck off and never return.

It's just the way women are, haven't you realised that yet? 

Of course the other side of the punting coin is that should you exhibit any of the hygiene issues mentioned above, you would either be told to take a shower/brush/mouthwash your teeth before any nookie took place, or even simply be denied some services.

And again, that is women for you  .

[sparkus]

Thankfully I can honestly say that in all my times punting I've never had anything worse than smoker's breath to contend with and not much in the way of underarm or front bottom hygiene.  However, the only two incidents I can recall of anal whiffery both occurred a decade apart but on exactly the same block of street (one a massage shop and the other a brothel).  The first was while doing a girl from behind I started to become aware of a foul odour and I pulled out wretching.  The other was in 69 and I guess her spreading legs caused anus to dilate and release the whiff.  In both cases I didn't need to say anything but they were quite insulted at my reaction.

[RandomGuy99]

I wouldn't recommend pointing out anything about personal hygiene as the majority of SPs will tell you to feck off. You probably need to lump it or hope that it was a one off.

I have sometimes mentioned a couple of service issues to an SP and often they've taken onboard.  Usually it has been with newbies.  One example, is I once saw an SP who had a feedback count of 5.  She had a few confidence issues on my first meeting with her.  She did a bit of striptease for me and said if I didn't like what I saw I could leave without paying and with no hard feelings.  I liked what I saw, but I came after 15 minutes and she lost interest. I got dressed and left.  A couple of days later I texted her to mention that it would have been nice to try a second round or just snog the remainder of the booking away.  I wasn't sure how she was going to take it, but I sent the message anyway.  To my surprise she texted me back that she was fine with that if I visited her again, so I book her for a couple of days later.  She was still learning the ropes at escorting as I was only her 4th client.

I was a bit hesitant about the next visit as I thought she might take the opportunity to give me what for.  However, it actually turned out to be one of the most passionate and energy packed shags of my life.  We had sex on the sofa, the carpet (complete with carpet burns in my knees), back on the sofa and then into the bedroom where we continued shagging.  By the end of the hour I had sweat pouring off me and I rarely break into a sweat on a booking. At the end she told me that was great and we snogged again. I then saw that SP every Thursday night for 6 months and the sex was great.   She was more MILFy than the SPs I'd seen before, but she was great.

Sometimes it pays to subtly point out these little tweaks, but it does depend on the SP.  Some will tear you new one and others will be absolutely fine with taking it onboard as they want to make you happy and continue seeing them.

[RandomGuy99]

I've also asked an SP if she would do more open mouthed deep french kisses on future bookings and she agreed as I like a good snog.  Next time I visited she was an amazing kisser and she seemed to like the kissing herself too.

Little tweaks can make all the difference, but you need to be subtle about it.

[Thephoenix]

I've had many a punt which has been fantastic apart from one thing, which is always correctable, but which would require me pointing out a shortcoming in the SP concerned.   I've been met at the door by gorgeous girls dressed in grunge, been kissed passionately by girls with stale breath, pushed a sub girls arms above her head and got a whiff of smelly armpits and, worst of all, withdrawn after a great session and released a stench like Grimsby dockside.    I'm sure I'm not alone.

The thing is, I never mention these things.   If I go to a restaurant and something is wrong, I call the waiter and get it sorted.   No problem.     But, SP's are women and my experience is that women hate criticism and tend to react agressively rather than giving it due consideration (feel free to call me sexist at this point).   So, am I wrong to not carefully point out something of which they may not even be aware and which may help them to improve their service or am I right to not mention it and avoid any possible confrontation or fallout?

Ugh!.....Enough to put me off sex for 2 seconds.

Would I mention it?'........No, too much of a coward.

[lewisjones23]

No issue with doing it, usually a one visit punter now anyway so I don’t have to protect future bookings

[RandomGuy99]

I usually frame the suggestion not criticism as part of an enquiry about a future booking, so something like "I am interested in booking you again, but I was wondering if you'd be ok doing X (more open mouthed kissing or more edging,etc.) on the next booking".  The SP can then think about it having met you and decide if they are happy to comply with your request.  Sometimes you even get other things suggested to you by the SP.  It sometimes turns out certain things weren't offered or done because the SP's clients don't usually like them so they're not offered by default, but they are available if politely requested and the SP is happy with you (hygiene and attitude wise).

If you ask politely and are happy to respect the wishes of the SP then it doesn't really hurt.

[Doc Holliday]

There is a bit of a divergence developing here. It is relatively easy to direct an SP 'sexually' in terms of for example "I prefer my blowjob softer and without hands" etc

It is much more difficult to say your armpits pong or your lady bits stink of fish. The latter is actually one you should perhaps mention as it may well be a sign of BV which she could be oblivious to and can be linked to high levels of sexual activity.

It takes a lot of 'courage' to mention it though. 

[winkywanky]

There's one thing that WGs always seem to forget, and that is that the customer is always right  .

[sparkus]

There's one thing that WGs always seem to forget, and that is that the customer is always right  .

I think that belongs on the civvy world logic thread.

Has anyone here had any feedback from WGs? The only one I can think of was when a rather big-titted Hungarian complained I finished too early (was the sight of those chebs, I don't normally).

[LLPunting]

I think that belongs on the civvy world logic thread.

Has anyone here had any feedback from WGs? The only one I can think of was when a rather big-titted Hungarian complained I finished too early (was the sight of those chebs, I don't normally).

Apparently I'm a donkey-dicked, strong lover with magic tongue who should be married and I scare the less experienced as I drag my todger in the door.

[sparkus]

Apparently I'm a donkey-dicked, strong lover with magic tongue who should be married and I scare the less experienced as I drag my todger in the door.

We knew that already.

I'm obviously not referring to the fake sentiments muttered on a massage table.  Remarking on the amount of cum always makes me laugh though, plus how 'hard' it is (one semi-regular always says that as she thinks she has to say something dirty to get me to cum, I always reply "It's so hard because your chest is so big" which embarasses her).

[The Film Director]

I would tend to only criticise if I knew I wouldn't be returning - have done this plenty of times and twice got a full refund (both reviews on here). 

[tesla]

I kicked a girl out of a room in a parlour once, it was supposed to be a two girl but one girl was off her head, so I said get out and tell the receptionist I will collect my refund after I have finished. She did not want to go but the other girl realising the punt was in danger of not happening pushed her out the door. I got my refund afterwards no issues.

[Payyourwaymate]

Has anyone here had any feedback from WGs? The only one I can think of was when a rather big-titted Hungarian complained I finished too early (was the sight of those chebs, I don't normally).

Yh, been told I'm taking too long on some occasions. Other occasions why did I finish so quick, been laughed at for cumming too quick before...sometimes "you fuck too strong", other times "why don't you fuck me harder"... . What else, after I finished a WG stormed out in anger onetime, did not even say bye  . One told me she should have paid me and not the other way around.  Another WG stormed out in anger mid session then came back after 5 mins of cooling down her pussy in the shower and gave me a lecture...and then after was moping about thinking something was wrong with her as I wanted to leave but she made me stay and then gave 100% to make me cum. One ran to the bathroom in digust, that's in one of my old reviews. Another kept telling me I fuck so good. As you can see, no consistency with the feedback on my end  . That's all I can think of from the top of my head.

[winkywanky]

You do seem to polarise WG-opinion somewhat 

[willie loman]

There isn't much point in bringing something up, as a certain froideur will follow,if its a one off punt,but I have no qualms telling a girl to quit the fake moaning, as it puts me off my stroke, however I tend to be pretty loyal , over 200 punts with certain sps, so you can make observations, as can the girls , without any problems. My particular complaint, is a girl having a bath just before I arrive, I prefer her to smell like a normal girl, clean but not hyper clean. 

[Jerk Chicken]

There isn't much point in bringing something up, as a certain froideur will follow,if its a one off punt,but I have no qualms telling a girl to quit the fake moaning, as it puts me off my stroke, however I tend to be pretty loyal , over 200 punts with certain sps, so you can make observations, as can the girls , without any problems. My particular complaint, is a girl having a bath just before I arrive, I prefer her to smell like a normal girl, clean but not hyper clean.

Do I interpret that to mean you're not averse to a semi fishy fanny?

[winkywanky]

I think he has a point, the natural slightly musky smell of a healthy pussy is a big turn on. This has nothing to do with a fishy smell. And actually, IMO is nicer than an almost sterile, freshly bathed one.

Pheromones, innit?

[B4bcock]

Pheromones, innit?

Nah, this thread is about whore moans. 

[winkywanky]

To be honest I'm more interested in whether she can make me moan  .

[MissWolf]

I may be unusual for thinking this way but as an SP I try to ensure I am clean, healthy and smelling sweet whenever I have a booking, if however I was less than fresh in an area and I was unaware,  then I would be fine with someone mentioning the issue,  I'd be absolutely mortified but certainly not cross or arsey, if possible I'd deal with the issue there and then and either offer a second booking at discount  or a discount on that booking depending on how big the issue was and to a degree how the subject had been broached.
Someone politely saying I'm really sorry but your breath isn't fresh, is vastly different to saying, fuck me your breath stinks luv 

I have to say I have given my clients feedback in regards to issues, but again it depends on how I feel they will take that feedback,  I'm always gentle and caring while doing it or I hope I am and I've never had a bad reaction.

Mostly it's been regarding closed foreskins that won't retract and hygiene issues in regard to that, but also a gentleman who had blood in his cum and one gent who had a large soft 'spot' about the size of half a large orange (think dr pimple popper style) on his back that I found when giving him a massage 

[winkywanky]

I would venture to suggest you might be in the minority with a helpful attitude like yours Ms. Wolf.

Regarding the 'large, soft orange', I hope you didn't try squeezing it, it sounds likeit might have been a sebaceous cyst, and would be liable to emit a foul and cheesy-smelling spray should you do so   

[sparkus]

I think he has a point, the natural slightly musky smell of a healthy pussy is a big turn on. This has nothing to do with a fishy smell. And actually, IMO is nicer than an almost sterile, freshly bathed one.

Pheromones, innit?

Some women taste divine in their natural state, as the vagina has its own balance of fluids and odours that if well kept compliment each other.

A vag that tastes of shower gel suggests to me that she's only just waved off her last client before I arrived (though it's preferable to the alternative  )

[MissWolf]

I would venture to suggest you might be in the minority with a helpful attitude like yours Ms. Wolf.

Regarding the 'large, soft orange', I hope you didn't try squeezing it, it sounds likeit might have been a sebaceous cyst, and would be liable to emit a foul and cheesy-smelling spray should you do so   

Its probably cos I'm an old bird WW 

As for the cyst he suggested I might want to sort it out for him 

I suggested he consult his wife or his doctor 

[winkywanky]

Many a good tune played on an old violin 

[Rochelle]

There's one thing that WGs always seem to forget, and that is that the customer is always right  .

[winkywanky]

I feel sure that's always at the front of your mind Rochelle 

[whoya.kiddin]

A while ago I had a good punt spoiled by the SP's cigarette breath and I was too shy to say something. 

Now I will

Say it without a critical tone and as kindly as possible, "Could you brush your teeth please?"  rather than, "Your breath smells."

Generally do this as early as possible, preferably as soon as I notice and at the start of the session.

If it isn't easily corrected (I had one punt in a room that literally smelled of shit) abandon the punt at the start (cheaper).

[The man]

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[The man]

Alternating between 

[RandomGuy99]

A while ago I had a good punt spoiled by the SP's cigarette breath and I was too shy to say something. 

Now I will

Say it without a critical tone and as kindly as possible, "Could you brush your teeth please?"  rather than, "Your breath smells."

Generally do this as early as possible, preferably as soon as I notice and at the start of the session.

If it isn't easily corrected (I had one punt in a room that literally smelled of shit) abandon the punt at the start (cheaper).

I think something more subtle like offering her a mint or asking for a mint might be more appropriate and be better received.

[Home Alone]

A while ago I had a good punt spoiled by the SP's cigarette breath and I was too shy to say something. 

This has always intrigued me because, as a bloke who'd never been a 'serious' smoker and who gave up smoking when I met the OH in 1982 - she was asthmatic - I quite like kissing girls with smoke on their  breath.

[mr.bluesky]

As more of a fbsm guy I hate it when you are finished off with a rushed rough hand job and you have to instruct them how to do it without them breaking your cock.

[RandomGuy99]

As more of a fbsm guy I hate it when you are finished off with a rushed rough hand job and you have to instruct them how to do it without them breaking your cock.

But we all like it different ways, so surely you do have to provide a bit of guidance, right?

It is probably really annoying as an SP who is trying to make you cum if you take your cock off her and make yourself cum.  She might feel she has failed when actually you never gave her a proper crack at it.  I think the one think I have learned is communication is key.  Good SPs want to please.  They will adapt the delivery of their services if you actually tell them how you like it. They are not mind readers.

[hermanmunster]

Slightly off topic, but I once said when the lady (Gayana from Diva) apologised for something, "don't worry, don't be silly" to stress that it was of little importance to me.  This was the worst thing I could have said, she flipped, accusing me of saying she was an idiot.  Then she told me she had an IQ of 125 (doubtful), I shouldn't have done, but I had proof via my phone of a higher IQ which I mentioned.  This angered her even more, because she clearly likes to feel as though she is more intelligent than her clients. It put an end to that meeting (for which I had paid £950) very quickly.

[winkywanky]

Did you really mean to say £950? 

[hermanmunster]

Did you really mean to say £950? 

Sadly yes - I could and probably should, have found a better way to spend £950. I guess we've all done something we regret?

[winkywanky]

How long was the booking for, and how early did you leave, if you don't mind me asking?

[hermanmunster]

No problem, 3 hour booking, this happened with about 30 minutes to go. It became obvious that any further conversation/calming down tactics were pointless and I left with about 15 minutes to go - so not a total disaster. I had enjoyed her company until that point!

[winkywanky]

 

[winkywanky]

I do hope you complained to the Agency about her attitude though! 

[Colston36]

I think it's hard to be critical in mid-swing so to speak without offending, but wise to say what you might like in advance, and to underscore it afterwards - if you want to go back

[hermanmunster]

I do hope you complained to the Agency about her attitude though! 

Yes,  i'll private message you with details if you're intetested.

[winkywanky]

Please do, Lockdown is soooo fucking boring 

[whoya.kiddin]

I think something more subtle like offering her a mint or asking for a mint might be more appropriate and be better received.

I would not expect an SP who needs to be told to freshen her breath to be much good at subtlety. 

Lets be clear here; pointing out a corrective on hygiene is a last ditch effort to save a punt and usually only attempted if I like the look but her breath smells of fags.  If she gets arsy at the suggestion I will be recovering my cash and walking. 

[Belgarion]

I don't mention anything, will usually leave before the booking is over making some excuses.

Chances of me wanting to see her again are minuscule

[RandomGuy99]

I would not expect an SP who needs to be told to freshen her breath to be much good at subtlety. 

Lets be clear here; pointing out a corrective on hygiene is a last ditch effort to save a punt and usually only attempted if I like the look but her breath smells of fags.  If she gets arsy at the suggestion I will be recovering my cash and walking.

Fair enough.

I've not really experienced many with hygiene issues.  Where I have I tend to do my thing and leave and not return.  I've not experienced anything so bad as to want to make me leave immediately though.

Service wise I've walked once and probably should have walked a bit more in my early days.

Service tweaks I've suggested have usually been well received and led to further bookings.

[Handel2020]

Another "shy guy" here and I had a couple of nasty experiences in my early twenties. I went down on one lady, and she smelled so bad downstairs it was noxious - and I mean it smelt like a very strong smell of the most foul chemicals. Shy guy here wasn't assertive enough to even stop. I licked it a little to give the impression she didn't stink. What a gentleman.    A few minutes later I was trying to give her the impression I was still into it and put my fingers down there. When I took my hand back even my fingers had the same foul smell.

A similar thing happened in a flat near to Belsize Park but the lady didn't smell quite as bad although it was a nasty smell. In my teen years there was a lady I done doggy with who smelt awful from behind but she was "mature" and I guess she might have had hemorrhoids at some point or something. I didn't complain or say a word to any of these women.