Dani, whilst I respect many of your opinions, and in this particular case I appreciate that you have also consulted some other girls, I think that it is mistake for others to think that it applies to all WGs (although in fairness I think you are careful not to make this claim).
I wasn't going to make a lengthy contribution to this this thread, partly because I don't claim to have any WGs as friends, but your comments have prompted me to offer an alternative perspective (and partly because I didn't want to be associated with Deviant, who has now been safely sent on his way, although I have never knowingly even been nominated for Punter of the Year or any similar industry accolade).
Try reading saafe and you will see what is thought of guys who do this and it isn't pleasant reading.
First though a little comment about SAAFE as due to the TightYoungEbony affair I have by necessity been in contact with some WGs who have volunteered their own thoughts. I now realise that there are many UK girls who don't give this website the time of day. It is so tightly controlled by Amy that many of those who don't agree with her philosophy now don't give it the time of day, especially as they have now found out that when the chips are down and they ask for her support to protect them from abuse from a fellow member she has an ostrich mentality. To some extent this makes the SAAFE membership a self-selecting unrepresentative sample (also many of the EE independents have no interest in it).
Being polite and friendly is one thing talking about family is another and not something we are interested in before or after sex as it means we suddenly have to make up a story too. I would rather poke my eyes with a hot needle than talk about my kids while in the act of being a prossie
I agree. Being friendly is one thing, but being friends is quite another.
Consider this though: are there not any service providers that you use on a regular basis with whom you share personal matters - a hairdresser for instance? You are probably friendly with them, but you are not friends. We all make decisions about whom we can trust and open up to; you have set your own personal boundaries with clients (and your WG friends have a similar philosophy), but there are others, perhaps because of different circumstances, whose boundaries are set in a rather different place.
I have been shown pictures of WGs children (unprompted and not reciprocated) and girls have chatted quite openly about home and personal circumstances. To be honest most of these have been EE independents, and very recently it led to an uncomfortable situation where a girl had previously shown me a picture of her father who was ill and at the start of the next meeting (a couple of months later) I innocently asked her how things were and she broke down in tears (not the easiest and most relaxed of starts!) even though it turns out her father was ok, but she was missing her children back at home, it certainly affected her own personal responsiveness during the meet (or so she told me - more about that later).
I have also been given quite a lot about personal background from UK girls too. As it was unprompted it almost doesn't seem worth the effort on their behalf to make a story up (unless, I suppose it is so well scripted and rehearsed that it just trips off the tongue almost without thinking). One girl (UK based) early in her career asked me for some advice at our first meeting, which I freely gave her, and then every couple of weeks or so would send me a text asking my opinion, or just telling me how things were going. It was really an extension of our paid sex meetings, and though I am looking forward to seeing her again and catching up on how things are progressing, due to my own circumstances we haven't met recently and the communications have been rarer, so I don't think of her as a friend, although we do communicate on her private number rather than her work phone and she has told me a lot about her life and doesn't bother hiding her real name from me - she has shown me letters with it at the top and has left her credit card on the table. (Last time I heard from her was from the waiting room of the GUM clinic which I had been gently persuading her to attend for some time after I had told her about my own first visit.)
I can understand your situation (and I apologise if I've made some incorrect assumptions) of a native WG (as in UK home based) with family and friends around her and a network of colleagues with whom she can share work based problems, but some of the EE girls have a more isolated and lonely life whilst they are over here and see a friendly (and older) face and sometimes want to share certain personal details (and, as I have said, some British girls too). Of course they are not friends and I would never suggest seeing them socially outside of paid meetings, and even if I had a desire to take things in that direction (which I don't) I doubt very much that they would agree to.
As for orgasms they are easily faked.
Lastly, and those that know me on here would probably guess that this comment is coming (and it was the main line of attack on me from TYE, so even more reason to say it!), but your description of how WGs fool clients into believing they are having an orgasm is of course written from your own perspective, and although I can understand why it happens, this is the one aspect of a meet that I am disappointed at when faced with obvious deception. I know that the girls aren't going to be attracted to me enough to snog my face off outside of the context of the paid meet, but when the real sex starts I don't like fakery. Yes let me lick your clit, but if I'm doing nothing for you, after a respectable amount of time tell me to move on and let's do something different rather than pretending that the Earth has just moved.
My last meet was with the girl I mentioned who had got a little upset at the start and after 15 mins or so of gentle fingering and RO confessed that though close, because she was still thinking about what had upset her, she knew that she wasn't going to climax today. However, during my previous meeting (different girl) I looked up when giving oral and was surprised to see that a sex flush had extended all the way down to nearly her navel on her right hand side. If she was faking it, then she has a quite remarkable control over her own physiology. I respect the first girl for saying so and was pleased that the second was relaxed enough with me to enjoy an orgasm.
I'm not saying that no girl has ever faked it with me and not managed to pull the wool over my eyes, but I do remember one girl who did all the right things, but I just knew it wasn't genuine. I just carried on, ignoring the histrionics (in my experience real orgasms tend to register a lot lower on both the decibel and Richter scale than faked) and eventually we got there. I tackled her about the acting at the end of the meet (by which time she had achieved a second orgasm) and she told me that most of her clients expected her to orgasm, but actually weren't that good at it, thus the need to put on a performance, mind you, she also said that although I was her first client of the day all she wanted to do now was curl up and sleep, so I can see it makes good business sense to pretend (of course, she is the only one who really knows for sure whether or not she really did eventually climax).
Dani, I respect your often level-headed contributions, and appreciate you giving an honest view from the other side of the fence, but I think that it does need to be balanced by an alternative perspective from one punter's perspective. After all, although you know infinitely more punters than me (the only one I know for sure I see in the mirror every morning when shaving), over twenty years of punting I have almost certainly seen more WGs than you know.
Bloody hell, what a ridiculously long posting, I'll have to develop some good one-liners like some other members to make up for it for my next few postings. Sorry.
