Why I rarely punt now.

[DJ Fruit Polo]

You can believe me or call me a liar, your choice, I tell everyone about my punting exploits, mates from 30 years ago and fellow taxi drivers, if it is now totally acceptable to be gay why should I be ashamed to be a punter.   

Fair enough, but most of us here (especially those with partners) have to be more discreet - it's not about shame, but about avoiding fallout.

[NIK]

I really envy you guys who seem to have great punts.
As Jimmy says it certainly doesn't get any easier with experience. Sometimes I wonder whether my expectations are too high, but then I think no they aren't.
Will get round to doing a report on Chelsea at HOD later and that experience really sums things up for me.

[vorian]

Adultwork reminds me of Woolworths just before it went skint --------------- full of crap.   

Hope there is a closing down sale.

[punk]

Hope there is a closing down sale.

will be if labour has its way.

[NIK]

Adultwork is a waste of time these days.

The thing I am surprised about however is I always thought you were based in a part of Londan that is not too far from where HOD are based? If so I am surprised you are not there punting with them?

Afraid I have to agree with you Anth. Indeed I have long thought so. Before my recent London trip I spent several hours wading through it and could find NOTHING at least in Central London that remotely appealed. I thought I would have to go back to using agencies.

In the end I went to HOD, but didn't enjoy it. Report upcoming.

I never thought I would get to the stage where I would be so reliant on a pair of regulars or that in their absence I would be in London with barely a clue how to get a decent punt.
Feel more like a newbie with each passing day. 

[Jimmyredcab]

I really envy you guys who seem to have great punts.
As Jimmy says it certainly doesn't get any easier with experience. Sometimes I wonder whether my expectations are too high, but then I think no they aren't.
Will get round to doing a report on Chelsea at HOD later and that experience really sums things up for me.

Your expectations are not too high, some of the gentlemen on here are very easily pleased. 

[DJ Fruit Polo]

Afraid I have to agree with you Anth. Indeed I have long thought so. Before my recent London trip I spent several hours wading through it and could find NOTHING at least in Central London that remotely appealed. I thought I would have to go back to using agencies.

In the end I went to HOD, but didn't enjoy it. Report upcoming.

I never thought I would get to the stage where I would be so reliant on a pair of regulars or that in their absence I would be in London with barely a clue how to get a decent punt.
Feel more like a newbie with each passing day. 

I feel some empathy with you, Nik.  If you've built up a relationship over time with trusted regulars then you do sometimes wonder if trying to search out someone new is worth the disappointment that may result.  It ain't cheap either!

It does have to be done though, as all ladies do retire eventually.

[Bigus Dickus]

I've been punt free for the last few weeks! Work is getting in the way and I am building up a 'Whore Chest' of funds! On looking around I too am finding it hard to source the right girls! Maybe I am getting too picky!   

[KentAde]

I haven't punted for over a month now, and I used to nearly every week.....I got fucked off with all the crap on AW and posted adverts. on CraigsList! I've been lucky and met 4 girls on there so far, and fucked 2 of them already, with another one this week, and another one next week. I also have another 2 girls I'm working on......still have to pay them for their 'time', but much cheaper and I get real girls, not fucking whores 
May have a punt for old times sake next month... 

[Sienna_Bronze]

I haven't punted for over a month now, and I used to nearly every week.....I got fucked off with all the crap on AW and posted adverts. on CraigsList! I've been lucky and met 4 girls on there so far, and fucked 2 of them already, with another one this week, and another one next week. I also have another 2 girls I'm working on......still have to pay them for their 'time', but much cheaper and I get real girls, not fucking whores 
May have a punt for old times sake next month... 

Erm, any body who gets paid for sex is a whore. They may be cheaper but it's still the same game.

[Jimmyredcab]

Erm, any body who gets paid for sex is a whore. They may be cheaper but it's still the same game.

I hate to agree with a pro$$ie but you are correct. 

[pokenn]

I haven't punted for over a month now, and I used to nearly every week.....I got fucked off with all the crap on AW and posted adverts. on CraigsList! I've been lucky and met 4 girls on there so far, and fucked 2 of them already, with another one this week, and another one next week. I also have another 2 girls I'm working on......still have to pay them for their 'time', but much cheaper and I get real girls, not fucking whores 
May have a punt for old times sake next month... 

I'd be interested in how much  time and effort was needed to get those two fucks?

[vogelcrystal]

FWIW I had a (rare) corker of a punt just over a week ago.  And since then 3 real disappointments.  And fair few average or worse before then.  Recently I've found myself fancying 'ordinary people' more than any of the people I've encountered on AW... maybe I've had a bad run of luck, but nothing is really doing it for me atm.

[Jimmyredcab]

When I started this thread I expected to get attacked from all angles however it seems I am not alone in thinking that the quality is simply not there on Adultwork, while you may find the odd gem you have to sift through ten tons of shit. 

[yorkshire123]

When I started this thread I expected to get attacked from all angles however it seems I am not alone in thinking that the quality is simply not there on Adultwork, while you may find the odd gem you have to sift through ten tons of shit. 

Now that i do agree with 

[pokenn]

When I started this thread I expected to get attacked from all angles however it seems I am not alone in thinking that the quality is simply not there on Adultwork, while you may find the odd gem you have to sift through ten tons of shit. 

I think that hits the nail on the head. Yes, there are some gooduns' but a lot of leg work is needed to find them. I've had a run of pretty good punts recently, but it's hard work sifting out the no-hopers, con-artists and just plain liars.

[squeezebox]

When I started this thread I expected to get attacked from all angles however it seems I am not alone in thinking that the quality is simply not there on Adultwork, while you may find the odd gem you have to sift through ten tons of shit. 

In a perverse way, it adds to the challenge of possibly finding a WG for a future punt.

My approach to searching AW may vary greatly from others, but seems to narrow things down for me easily enough.

Female
Escort
Incalls and outcalls
Select region and county.
Exclude members that have been asked to verify.
That have logged in:  within the last two weeks.

Ideally phone number shown.

I then focus on the feedback and check to see who the punters have also seen for authenticity.

[Jimmyredcab]

In a perverse way, it adds to the challenge of possibly finding a WG for a future punt.

My approach to searching AW may vary greatly from others, but seems to narrow things down for me easily enough.

Female
Escort
Incalls and outcalls
Select region and county.
Exclude members that have been asked to verify.
That have logged in:  within the last two weeks.

Ideally phone number shown.

I then focus on the feedback and check to see who the punters have also seen for authenticity.

You don't mention face photos, are you happy to book a "blind date" because I am not. 

[squeezebox]

You don't mention face photos, are you happy to book a "blind date" because I am not. 

The photo you originally posted would catch my eye.

A phone call would give me any extra info I'd need to make a decision.

[Jimmyredcab]

The photo you originally posted would catch my eye.

A phone call would give me any extra info I'd need to make a decision.

OK, thanks, you have answered my question ------------------------ you are happy to book a girl with no idea what she looks like.   

[squeezebox]

OK, thanks, you have answered my question ------------------------ you are happy to book a girl with no idea what she looks like.   

Yes I would.  The risk:reward is acceptable if all the other factors are met.

[Jimmyredcab]

Yes I would.  The risk:reward is acceptable if all the other factors are met.

Fair enough.   

Can I ask you a question.

Would you buy a pair of shoes online for £120 without seeing what they look like.   

[brislex]

Using reverse booking has been quite good for me actually. Cheaper and better to look through all those profile.   

Plus is nice to feel wanted as they are coming to you, rather than having to txt them and wait for their response. 


Also, you can always walk even after you got there, just give her £20 and say sorry, had to go. Or you can always set an alarm on your phone and pretend you have a emergency

 

[pokenn]

Fair enough.   

Can I ask you a question.

Would you buy a pair of shoes online for £120 without seeing what they look like.   

I fairly regularly book girls without a face pic. Not had any total munters yet.

[Jimmyredcab]

Using reverse booking has been quite good for me actually. Cheaper and better to look through all those profile.   

Pleased they work for you, all I get is a pile of crap.     

[squeezebox]

Fair enough.   

Can I ask you a question.

Would you buy a pair of shoes online for £120 without seeing what they look like.   

No, I admit I'd need to see a picture of the shoes if buying them on-line...but I could always return them for a refund if I was sold a heap of crap. Might even wear them and then return them! 

[Marmalade]

I agree with Jimmy's rant against those who are too easily pleased but he could always move!

And this shoes example is starting to wear a bit thin. You don't pay for the prossie online, you pay her when you see her. And if you don't like the idea of saying "no" you can always cut your options down even further by sticking to parlours where the girls are on display before you have to make a choice. Then you walk, no problem. (Providing you weren't ripped off when buying your shoes online haha, in which case errrm... call a taxi?).

[wristjob]

I pretty much agree with Sedlmayer even if I think he's not being the most diplomatic.

The girls on AW are the girls who do this job. It's not AWs fault. To be honest I think part of the problem is that we're used to seeing some face pics, use to seeing more than we did 20 years ago then you expect every one to be the standard of the best. While JRC used to see the faces of street girls i doubt many of them were of a standard he would go with now - partly because you do have that choice of thousands.

Also AW is all about where you live really. When I lived near a larger city there were dozens of girls coming and going each week, tons of choice. Where I am now is dominated by parlours and agencies, very little independent. it's bizarre that I can run my AW searches for the first time in 2-3 weeks and there's 1-2 girls who might make my hotlist. Parlours are working out well for me and at the moment seeing 2-3 new girls a month isn't burning through them fast enough.

Looking back at my early punts, of the first 5 I think 4 were from newspapers and 1 was from a phonebox. The first girl I saw was stunning (maybe rose tints) but I got a pig rough bird, a woman who was around 60 (and that wasn't the plan) - I had no real clue what I was going to get. Only 1 was half decent too, even by the low standards I had then.

Personally I'd rather go on a body pic, good rep and risk the face but with the ability to walk than a face pic and no clue on the quality of service.

[Marmalade]

I agree about it being where you live. If I lived in London or some other places I'd have a very different view (sadly people down there often fail to grasp what living outside of London is like though they are happy to argue it forever.)

In Edinburgh, not many thin 18 to 21 year olds are pish ugly. I'm buying a shag not a crystal decanter with insurance and warranties. I want the best obtainable that fits my tastes and what I'm willing to spend in terms of time and money. In Edinburgh, the student profile is reasonably recognisable and they are often my first choice. I'm sorry, but I honestly don't give a fuck if I can guess from the rest of the profile that she has a nice face or if she wants me to book through the site. Punting has certain risks but if I'm only paying £50 for a half hour so what. If it's a solid bet, £80 is manageable. Occasionally I miss. So what, like I said, I'm not buying a mortgage, just a shag. Jimmy thinks his tactics should be applicable to everyone everywhere. I disagree. But he speaks enough reams of sense to make up for his occasional bollocks. Twats that sound like they're having a wank while they're giving some fat old slag 10/10 and gushing all over they're bib are a prossie's dream but not much help to discriminating punters.

[MancSean]

When I started this thread I expected to get attacked from all angles however it seems I am not alone in thinking that the quality is simply not there on Adultwork, while you may find the odd gem you have to sift through ten tons of shit. 

I have punted for ages for one reason or another. Firstly it was monetary but now I have cash just can't get excited bout owt on AW. When I do see a profile I like it's £250 + which I would never pay these days.
I agree with Jimmy AW has gone right downhill. I am not into EE's especially Romanians Bulgarians etc. Problem is on the AW phone app you have to guess or go by price. It takes she's then normally yields fuck all opportunities

[mh]

I haven't punted for several months, just a crap massage with HE overseas recently. This is from a combination of work pressure making it hard to engineer a guaranteed time away from the office and the difficulty of identifying a good bet among the high number of likely bad bets around. Some of the best girls recommended on here for my area seem to work intermittently or move between locations, meaning that when I have a window, they don't. Resorting to AW as a primary resource is usually a thankless task.

I'm not so fussed about face pics, body pics are more important to me, but I know some people have the opposite view (or need both face and body to be right). I don't think it is unreasonable for WGs not to want to show their face, especially in small towns. It's a bonus when they do.

I have some absolute permanent filters in place blocking any bareback advertisers. I have a relatively wide age range but I definitely wouldn't filter on "Available Today" because (a) only a small proportion of girls use it and (b) I reckon many (not all) of those who would pay to use it might be quite short of business which is what drives them to use it. Consequently you'd be filtering out lots of possibly good options and filtering in some bad ones!

If the resulting list is vast (and it never is in my own area but can be for London) then it means I can be rather more specific about age range, body type or services to get a more manageable list to sift through.

[JamesKW]

This is a punters' forum you dickwad, where people pay for sex - most of my mates have slept with 3 or 4 girls, tops. If they knew how much fun I've had they'd be amazed. Sounds like you're ashamed of your hobby (assuming you actually punt - who knows?) - I'm not. It's a (private) sense of great pleasure - otherwise why would I do it?

How do you know that I have never told any of my mates what I do.

[smiths]

I agree with Jimmy's rant against those who are too easily pleased but he could always move!

And this shoes example is starting to wear a bit thin. You don't pay for the prossie online, you pay her when you see her. And if you don't like the idea of saying "no" you can always cut your options down even further by sticking to parlours where the girls are on display before you have to make a choice. Then you walk, no problem. (Providing you weren't ripped off when buying your shoes online haha, in which case errrm... call a taxi?).

Good post Marm. IF i was getting nowhere using A/W for a long period i would be looking at Parlours instead, if that meant a bit of travelling thats better than taking risks on A/W, all basic common sense to me.

However, a read of reviews on here proves there are decent WGs in London and surrounds advertising on A/W, one prime example being Michelle Independent.

[Jimmyredcab]

I have some absolute permanent filters in place blocking any bareback advertisers. I have a relatively wide age range but I definitely wouldn't filter on "Available Today" because (a) only a small proportion of girls use it and (b) I reckon many (not all) of those who would pay to use it might be quite short of business which is what drives them to use it. Consequently you'd be filtering out lots of possibly good options and filtering in some bad ones!

I do understand the point about the Available Today filter but the reason I use it is because I don't want to look through 2000 profiles when the vast majority will not even be working.

I disagree that girls who pay to display it are "desperate", I would describe them as astute business women  ---- a £5 investment could return them £300, some pro$$ies don't want to spend anything.

It does of course depend on your location, my searches cover most of the Greater London area ------------ if I lived in a remote Welsh valley I might see things in a different light.

[NIK]

I do understand the point about the Available Today filter but the reason I use it is because I don't want to look through 2000 profiles when the vast majority will not even be working.

I disagree that girls who pay to display it are "desperate", I would describe them as astute business women  ---- a £5 investment could return them £300, some pro$$ies don't want to spend anything.

It does of course depend on your location, my searches cover most of the Greater London area ------------ if I lived in a remote Welsh valley I might see things in a different light.

As I think someone has already mentioned in this thread, Jim, sometimes Londoners don't know how fortunate they are re punting. Although I live within comfortable travelling distance of three major cities - Sheffield 20 - 30 minutes, Derby and Nottingham about 45 - it still seems there's less around than there was twenty years ago (Derby being a particularly desperate place for punting).
Having said that I'm more choosy and much more risk averse than I was twenty years ago. And on Saturday I was really struggling to know who to book in Central London!

[cockneybstrd]

As I think someone has already mentioned in this thread, Jim, sometimes Londoners don't know how fortunate they are re punting. Although I live within comfortable travelling distance of three major cities - Sheffield 20 - 30 minutes, Derby and Nottingham about 45 - it still seems there's less around than there was twenty years ago (Derby being a particularly desperate place for punting).
Having said that I'm more choosy and much more risk averse than I was twenty years ago. And on Saturday I was really struggling to know who to book in Central London!

I think that is the crucial thing isnt it. Your more choosy and less risk averse these days.

[Jimmyredcab]

As I think someone has already mentioned in this thread, Jim, sometimes Londoners don't know how fortunate they are re punting.

Well, I don't regard myself as fortunate.   

London has become flooded with Romanian lowlife, Adultwork must have thousands on their books.

What makes matters worse is that all my local brothels have closed down in the last few years, I used to rely on places like Giggles in Ilford (Sunni Tara's place).

[Jimmyredcab]

I think that is the crucial thing isnt it. Your more choosy and less risk averse these days.

That is not such a bad thing ------------------ a few of the gents on here would fuck anything with a pulse.   

[cockneybstrd]

That is not such a bad thing ------------------ a few of the gents on here would fuck anything with a pulse.   

I am not saying its a bad thing. And yes a lot of blokes in general would fuck anything with a pulse.

The point is when it comes to AW. Some of us are willing to take a risk with a profile with no face pics or no feedback or through a RB.

Its a little like backing 25/1 shot in a Horse Race each way. You hope your onto a winner. you will be happy if it comes in the first three and you get a decent return for your bet. But you also except it might well be a looser and you shrug your shoulders move on.

[vorian]

That is not such a bad thing ------------------ a few of the gents on here would fuck anything with a pulse.   

For some the pulse is an optional extra.

[smiths]

I am not saying its a bad thing. And yes a lot of blokes in general would fuck anything with a pulse.

The point is when it comes to AW. Some of us are willing to take a risk with a profile with no face pics or no feedback or through a RB.

Its a little like backing 25/1 shot in a Horse Race each way. You hope your onto a winner. you will be happy if it comes in the first three and you get a decent return for your bet. But you also except it might well be a looser and you shrug your shoulders move on.

If i had insisted on only punting with WGs with face pics or feedback i would of missed out on many good WGs over the years. All very simple to me, if i dont fancy the real in the flesh WG i walk, and always have a plan B option.

[pokenn]

If i had insisted on only punting with WGs with face pics or feedback i would of missed out on many good WGs over the years. All very simple to me, if i dont fancy the real in the flesh WG i walk, and always have a plan B option.

This.

You've got to be willing to take a chance. Do all the homework and checks you can, but then be willing to walk.

[mh]

I do understand the point about the Available Today filter but the reason I use it is because I don't want to look through 2000 profiles when the vast majority will not even be working.

I disagree that girls who pay to display it are "desperate", I would describe them as astute business women  ---- a £5 investment could return them £300, some pro$$ies don't want to spend anything.

It does of course depend on your location, my searches cover most of the Greater London area ------------ if I lived in a remote Welsh valley I might see things in a different light.

Some will be astute business women, some will be desperate for business. Now how many WGs are astute business women in your experience...?  I think a lot of possibly good WGs see a fiver a day as a waste of money, especially if they get enough bookings without paying it - that's also astute. You are missing out on them by filtering on Available Today.

My point is that if you have a huge list, filter on some other things instead - narrow the age range, be more specific on location (e.g. miles from a postcode), price range or services, etc.

[Jimmyredcab]

This.

You've got to be willing to take a chance. Do all the homework and checks you can, but then be willing to walk.

I am well aware of the option to walk -------------------- over the years I have done it hundreds of times, mainly from local brothels.

The problem is that girls rarely appear in my area so I might have to travel for an hour to the other side of London, if she turns out to be a pig with lipstick I will have wasted 2 hours on the return journey.

I am no longer willing to "take a chance" ------------ those days are long gone.     

[NIK]

This.

You've got to be willing to take a chance. Do all the homework and checks you can, but then be willing to walk.

Yes once upon a time the risk was part of the thrill. I had dozens upon dozens of punts in the early days without a clue about what the girl looked like, apart from the inaccurate phone descriptions, but that was pre internet. Sometimes I was lucky more often than not I wasn't.

I remember when I first set eyes up Jessica of ABC Nottingham at my local train station I was somewhat disappointed. This was actually after seeing full face photos of her. It was maybe my first example that pics can lie. However Jess proved to be one of the great ones and I would go on to see her many times.
Ironically a few years before Jess, Carla, my greatest girl ever was initially booked totally 'blind.'

[NIK]

I am well aware of the option to walk -------------------- over the years I have done it hundreds of times, mainly from local brothels.

The problem is that girls rarely appear in my area so I might have to travel for an hour to the other side of London, if she turns out to be a pig with lipstick I will have wasted 2 hours on the return journey.

I am no longer willing to "take a chance" ------------ those days are long gone.     

Jim, one of us really will have to see Michelle, but she is still nearer to you! 

[Steve2]

Maybe Jimbo will have to rearrange his busy schedule and see her on a weekday

Surely it can't be that hard for a cab driver to "disappear" for an hr

Michelle's dog will be slobbering at the thought of getting his teeth into Jimbo

 

I think you are too set in your ways NIK to venture outside Zone 1 on the tube

[NIK]

Maybe Jimbo will have to rearrange his busy schedule and see her on a weekday

Surely it can't be that hard for a cab driver to "disappear" for an hr

Michelle's dog will be slobbering at the thought of getting his teeth into Jimbo

 

I think you are too set in your ways NIK to venture outside Zone 1 on the tube

I have been known to venture into Zone 2! 

No, seriously I have ventured as far as Ealing (twice!), Barking and even Caterham for punts  in the past, but as you say I am more set in my ways now. Even Earl's Court is far enough! 

[Jimmyredcab]

Maybe Jimbo will have to rearrange his busy schedule and see her on a weekday

Maybe she could send me an invite one Sunday.     

I won't hold my breath.       

[itk]

I have spent at least an hour today searching Adultwork for something half decent without success, I put in 18-30, available today and within 20 miles of my postcode, all I get is a pile of shit, Romanian skanks or headless photos.
I am willing to pay £120 an hour, possibly more.

This is a typical example, based in Dagenham, 2.2 miles away from me. ---------

Hidden Image/Members Only

Couldn't agree more. I usually do a search of 40 miles and get 200+ and it usually returns EE's and profile which don't reveal face pics. I've been saving what I don't spend each month so therefore have a tidy bit put aside. Even been considering seeing a girl in Norwich who I've seen before, was exceptionally pretty but shit attitude, trouble I'd I know I'll regret it if I bother.