natural enhancers (no pharma)

[MerlinGray]

Looked at this topic but last thing relevant I could find dated back to 2017.

Maybe it was done to death before the advent of easy to get Blueys but there's other stuff that works alongside it. A lot I'd posts on making sure you're topped up on zinc etc, horny goatweed

I have a few starters for 10 on this.

1/ Blue lotus (a flower, works soaked in wine, or concentrated powder off ebay). Not illegal in any way.
2/ a colossal hang over
3/ CBD oil

All work for me but in combo make me chattier, filthier-talking and more likely to connect with a WG thereby making for a better punt.

Any other (legal) enhancers?

PS please be aware of anything that may not interact well with blue prescribed meds.

And mods, if I've started a thread unnecessarily, apols

[Kieslowski]

I find a heavy weights session an hour or two beforehand can be quite effective. It can certainly get you in the mood.

[Thephoenix]

Jump leads!

[standardpostage]

Oysters are supposed to be aphrodisiacs / enhancers 

Rumour has it, chocolate does it for women, and diamonds 

[signy]

There are proponents of both ginseng and truffles.

There is some evidence that the taking the former results in the user finding other people more attractive. Subjects given ginseng rate the "attractiveness" of people in photos more highly than a control group. All a bit vague, but there you go.

[Pillowtalk]

don't smoke, drink less (or not at all), lose weight, take more exercise, eat a good diet, get a good night's sleep.
Job done for most people.

[arrow0404]

don't smoke, drink less (or not at all), lose weight, take more exercise, eat a good diet, get a good night's sleep.
Job done for most people.

Plus ‘no fap’

[Thephoenix]

don't smoke, drink less (or not at all), lose weight, take more exercise, eat a good diet, get a good night's sleep.
Job done for most people.

Well that covers me then!
Unfortunately despite all that, age eventually takes it's toll.

[Puntingutils]

I believe maca root might help

[Stevelondon]

A dozen bottles of Newcy Broon……. No wait a minute. That’s before a game of darts.

Wait a mo…….. I’ll come back to you on that one.

[MerlinGray]

The health thing is interesting, dry Jan always has a good effect.

I'll try ginseng too.

Been using Newky Brown for years, but mainly for constipation!

[Lou2019]

Horny Goat Weed

[Thephoenix]

A couple of rounds of bread and dripping!

[MerlinGray]

Horny Goat Weed

Does that shit work?

[Colston36]

don't smoke, drink less (or not at all), lose weight, take more exercise, eat a good diet, get a good night's sleep.
Job done for most people.

I cut down on drinking twenty years ago, which helped. I do a great deal of walking - at least three hours a week and usually more, much of it up and down hills. I also exercise - just under 1,000 rather rushed repetitions a week as I'm no athlete. The results are pretty gratifying; I usually see someone for a frolic once or twice a week. Though at my age I'd say one in five meetings aren't totally successful. And I do cheat - Cialis.

[sensualencounter]

Does that shit work?

Not according to some articles.

“Horny goat weed refers to various herb species of the Epimedium genus, and may be known as "yin yang huo." It has limited evidence of health benefits.

Horny goat weed contains chemicals that might help increase blood flow and improve sexual function. It also contains phytoestrogens, chemicals that act somewhat like the hormone estrogen.

People use horny goat weed for erectile dysfunction (ED), sexual problems, weak and brittle bones, health problems after menopause, and other conditions, but there is no good scientific evidence to support any of these uses.”

And reading further there are potential side effects to it.

There’s plenty of stuff out there to research but ffs why do people insist on getting their medical advice from a bunch of random members of a punting forum?

[Thephoenix]

There’s plenty of stuff out there to research but ffs why do people insist on getting their medical advice from a bunch of random members of a punting forum?

Maybe because most of us are reasonably intelligent and as well as seeking professional medical advice, we like to share our experiences which might be helpful to other members about performance issues.

[sensualencounter]

There’s plenty of stuff out there to research but ffs why do people insist on getting their medical advice from a bunch of random members of a punting forum?


Maybe because most of us are reasonably intelligent and as well as seeking professional medical advice, we like to share our experiences which might be helpful to other members about performance issues.

First of all, whilst I’d like to also think that most of us are reasonably intelligent, I have my doubts with the “most” part. And secondly people’s experiences might be helpful to others but as always responsibility lies with ourselves to deem what is fact and what is fiction and everything in between.

But I know that if I want advice on my car, I’ll ask a car mechanic and still weigh things up myself. A bit like if I want financial advice I’ll ask a financial adviser, not come onto a punting forum and ask anonymous individuals.

[Puntingutils]

First of all, whilst I’d like to also think that most of us are reasonably intelligent, I have my doubts with the “most” part. And secondly people’s experiences might be helpful to others but as always responsibility lies with ourselves to deem what is fact and what is fiction and everything in between.

But I know that if I want advice on my car, I’ll ask a car mechanic and still weigh things up myself. A bit like if I want financial advice I’ll ask a financial adviser, not come onto a punting forum and ask anonymous individuals.

OP's asking for NON-pharma enhancers. So who else would he ask? Everything will be anecdotal, so a forum from people's experience is the way forward. The honis is on OP to research the information given to him on the thread

[sensualencounter]

OP's asking for NON-pharma enhancers. So who else would he ask? Everything will be anecdotal, so a forum from people's experience is the way forward. The honis is on OP to research the information given to him on the thread

Agree with that, although the word is onus.

I’m really just highlighting that nobody should take anything said on here as gospel. And when the immediate things that come up about horny goat is that it’s total bollocks and could even have adverse issues, it kind of highlights my point. Of course, I’m sure I can, if I dig deep enough, find some amazingly positive reviews of it but I’d expect they come from those companies selling it.

Similar issues with big pharma and the marketing machine admittedly and how much you believe / don’t believe.

[Stevelondon]

I think all of us know a healthy lifestyle of regular exercise and good diet is going to be beneficial to us regarding cock wellness. 

But folk still seek that info don’t they.

“Yes bath in seaweed once a week and drink the urine of a virgin fortnightly. Stiff as a rock 

[sensualencounter]

I think all of us know a healthy lifestyle of regular exercise and good diet is going to be beneficial to us regarding cock wellness. 

But folk still seek that info don’t they.

“Yes bath in seaweed once a week and drink the urine of a virgin fortnightly. Stiff as a rock 

Well, quite. There’s not always an easy fix for things.

[Stevelondon]

Well, quite. There’s not always an easy fix for things.

😂.     I’m ok with a shot of virgins urine once in a while but have you seen the cost of seaweed recently 😱

[newhere456]

I have found over the years that the dosage I have needed of Sildenafil has steadily increased,  additionally the window within which it was effective was narrowing.  I bought a penis pump and it has been a game changer.  Takes a bit of getting used to, it is a rather different sensation but very effective.  I combine it with a small (25mg) dose of Sildenafil.  My wife enjoys it, but complains that it is perhaps a bit too hard for her after she has come,  for SP's I have only used it once but it saved the day.

[mrfishyfoo]

Not according to some articles.

“Horny goat weed refers to various herb species of the Epimedium genus, and may be known as "yin yang huo." It has limited evidence of health benefits.

Horny goat weed contains chemicals that might help increase blood flow and improve sexual function. It also contains phytoestrogens, chemicals that act somewhat like the hormone estrogen.

People use horny goat weed for erectile dysfunction (ED), sexual problems, weak and brittle bones, health problems after menopause, and other conditions, but there is no good scientific evidence to support any of these uses.”

And reading further there are potential side effects to it.

There’s plenty of stuff out there to research but ffs why do people insist on getting their medical advice from a bunch of random members of a punting forum?

What you state above, marked bold, as fact is incorrect.

The science types have shown that HGT contains a PDE5 inhibitor albeit a weak one.

The only relevant fact here is that the science types use the action of PDE5 inhibitors in ALL the leading ED meds.

Given that it's the PDE5 inhibitor in HGT, Viagra, Levitra etc etc that makes limp cocks stiff that raises a separate question.

Why use an inherently weak, and on the face of it expensive, PDE5 inhibitor when the good stuff costs fuck all. 

[sensualencounter]

What you state above, marked bold, as fact is incorrect.

The science types have shown that HGT contains a PDE5 inhibitor albeit a weak one.

The only relevant fact here is that the science types use the action of PDE5 inhibitors in ALL the leading ED meds.

Given that it's the PDE5 inhibitor in HGT, Viagra, Levitra etc etc that makes limp cocks stiff that raises a separate question.

Why use an inherently weak, and on the face of it expensive, PDE5 inhibitor when the good stuff costs fuck all. 

I haven’t stated it as fact at all. I’ve merely quoted the first article I found on the internet. Hence the quotation marks before and after the copy and paste.

[Thephoenix]

First of all, whilst I’d like to also think that most of us are reasonably intelligent, I have my doubts with the “most” part. And secondly people’s experiences might be helpful to others but as always responsibility lies with ourselves to deem what is fact and what is fiction and everything in between.

But I know that if I want advice on my car, I’ll ask a car mechanic and still weigh things up myself. A bit like if I want financial advice I’ll ask a financial adviser, not come onto a punting forum and ask anonymous individuals.

I agree with your 1st para, apart from the level of intelligence bit.
That sounds a bit elitist doesn't it?
'If I want someone's opinion, I'll give it them' ???

I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent albeit with a couple of screws loose, and recognise that there are many members more cleverer than I is.

We're even fortunate to have the legendary doctor from Dodge City , who despite his new avatar is still apparently able to rise from the dead to regale us with his wit and vast knowledge of concoctions and remedies......OK! I know... always check with your GP blah blah!

In relation to seeking information about issues other than punting, I've enjoyed reading lots of views and advice in the off topic section from all kinds of subjects like electric cars, smart meters, holidays, films etc, so maybe I'm not so agreeable with your 2nd paragraph.

[scutty brown]

Horny goat wee?
How the fuck are you supposed to collect that? Have you ever tried wrestling a billy goat? It's hard work and lots of bruises

[MerlinGray]

Don't worry lads, I have the function  of critical reason and a basic level of understanding having trained in pharma for a while (didn't pursue the career as it can be soul destroying)

What I will say is never take sudafed if you wanna get it up!

My post was meant as a light hearted question, I don't wanna turn this forum into erowid or a medical journal! Appreciate the replies :-)

[MerlinGray]

Horny goat wee?
How the fuck are you supposed to collect that? Have you ever tried wrestling a billy goat? It's hard work and lots of bruises

 

[Doc Holliday]

My post was meant as a light hearted question, I don't wanna turn this forum into erowid or a medical journal! Appreciate the replies :-)

My knowledge of non pharma supplements etc is sparse. In actual fact the forum is an excellent resource for this subject although it can be very subjective. If you type 'supplements' into the search box there have been many threads/posts on the subject including this 8 pager. https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=201025.0

The issue really is the lack of reliable/meaningful research studies/data and a strong placebo effect is common. Optimum dosages is another variable and not always agreed upon. High dosages may be problematical in long term use especially.

I have always been impressed by Marmalade's considerable knowledge of the subject. Sadly he doesn't post as much as he once did, but this is an example of his input https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=233551.msg2387589#msg2387589

You do have to cautious with 'natural remedies' and interactions with other medications and for example St John's Wort can be a nightmare in this respect when prescribing pharmaceuticals.

[Doc Holliday]

We're even fortunate to have the legendary doctor from Dodge City , who despite his new avatar is still apparently able to rise from the dead

I took an unexpected bullet recently in a shoot out following a bad tempered poker game. I'm getting old and slow. I survived, but longer term is still in doubt?

Being obsessionally organised, I prepared my avatar for the inevitable 

[mrfishyfoo]

I haven’t stated it as fact at all. I’ve merely quoted the first article I found on the internet. Hence the quotation marks before and after the copy and paste.

In which case the article you quoted is incorrect. 

Good job not all of us "quote" the first thing we see on the Internet. 

[mrfishyfoo]

My knowledge of non pharma supplements etc is sparse. In actual fact the forum is an excellent resource for this subject although it can be very subjective. If you type 'supplements' into the search box there have been many threads/posts on the subject including this 8 pager. https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=201025.0

The issue really is the lack of reliable/meaningful research studies/data and a strong placebo effect is common. Optimum dosages is another variable and not always agreed upon. High dosages may be problematical in long term use especially.

I have always been impressed by Marmalade's considerable knowledge of the subject. Sadly he doesn't post as much as he once did, but this is an example of his input https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=233551.msg2387589#msg2387589

You do have to cautious with 'natural remedies' and interactions with other medications and for example St John's Wort can be a nightmare in this respect when prescribing pharmaceuticals.

Here you are Doc re: icariin aka the PDE5 in HGT.

External Link/Members Only

Nasty piece of work IMHO because of the animal experiments albeit it and the other reseach it cites are an interesting read.

FWIW I agree that without proper research on interactions with prescription pharma etc that extreme caution is advised.

As you and others so correctly state its much safer, and easier, to get the good stuff from the GP. 

[sensualencounter]

In which case the article you quoted is incorrect. 

Good job not all of us "quote" the first thing we see on the Internet. 

Not really sure what your point is? I thought I made it clear that I’m just quoting an article. I wasn’t stating it as fact and indeed I caveated it with “…according to some articles…”

I thought I also made it clear that people should do their own research? Never mind.

[mrfishyfoo]

Not really sure what your point is? I thought I made it clear that I’m just quoting an article. I wasn’t stating it as fact and indeed I caveated it with “…according to some articles…”

I thought I also made it clear that people should do their own research? Never mind.

You made it very clear that asking for info on a forum isn't the greatest of ideas, which I agree with. 

You also muddied the waters by quoting a factually incorrect article which IMHO was unhelpful.

My point being why quote at all unless what you quote can be proven to be correct. 

[timmy1]

Citrulline/Arginine is an amino acid well known for increasing nitrous oxide in the body and helps give you a stronger erection though Citrulline is far more effective. Its found in watermelons, cucumbers etc but you can buy it in pill and powder form, ive certainly noticed the effects taking around 3-5g daily, also PDE5 inhibiters like Cialis and Viagra use nitrous oxide as fuel in the body so if you combine them with the blue pills they also increase the effectiveness of them.

[big-al93]

Horny goat wee?
How the fuck are you supposed to collect that? Have you ever tried wrestling a billy goat? It's hard work and lots of bruises

Sexist much??? 
Why should it only be the billy goats that are horny? And the nanny's are much better at standing still.

[mrfishyfoo]

Horny goat wee?
How the fuck are you supposed to collect that? Have you ever tried wrestling a billy goat? It's hard work and lots of bruises

Now that I've stopped laughing and wiped up the tea I sprayed everyone......let someone do it ?? 

Once they've done it you'll find the end product hanging in your local herbalist. 

[JontyR]

As a horny goat myself I took some.

Rather than getting extra horny it just enduce  feelings of calm and the urge to eat a multipack of Monster Munch.

[sensualencounter]

As a horny goat myself I took some.

Rather than getting extra horny it just enduce  feelings of calm and the urge to eat a multipack of Monster Munch.

I took some and it had the opposite effect. I got all lairy, looked for other horned creatures and started head butting them. And then I ate everything in site, climbed a mountain and shit loads of little pellets everywhere whilst making a strange bleating noise.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

I took some and it had the opposite effect. I got all lairy, looked for other horned creatures and started head butting them. And then I ate everything in site, climbed a mountain and shit loads of little pellets everywhere whilst making a strange bleating noise.

Ah right!, day tip to Wales then;?...

[Thephoenix]

I took some and it had the opposite effect. I got all lairy, looked for other horned creatures and started head butting them. And then I ate everything in site, climbed a mountain and shit loads of little pellets everywhere whilst making a strange bleating noise.

Just as well  you weren't on your way to a punt!

It might have been a case of eats shoots and leaves.

[JustaPunter]

Maca Root, Tongkat Ali and anything that assist in the bodies production of Nitric Oxide might help.

But being more active and going to the gym to ensure decent cardio vascular fitness is a good shout, especially exercises like  squats which ensure there is decent blood supply to your lower body as the same blood vessels the feed the legs also feed the gentleman’s area.

[JustaPunter]

What you state above, marked bold, as fact is incorrect.

The science types have shown that HGT contains a PDE5 inhibitor albeit a weak one.

The only relevant fact here is that the science types use the action of PDE5 inhibitors in ALL the leading ED meds.

Given that it's the PDE5 inhibitor in HGT, Viagra, Levitra etc etc that makes limp cocks stiff that raises a separate question.

Why use an inherently weak, and on the face of it expensive, PDE5 inhibitor when the good stuff costs fuck all. 

In fairness the thread is about non pharma assistance

I take that to mean supplements etc, not actual prescription drugs.

Thinking about it a Penis Pump and constriction rings could also be considered as non pharma.

[mrfishyfoo]

In fairness the thread is about non pharma assistance

I take that to mean supplements etc, not actual prescription drugs.

Thinking about it a Penis Pump and constriction rings could also be considered as non pharma.

That wasn't lost on me when I made the point that HGT as a PDE5 ED is to all intents IMHO a waste of space, unless you have a chemist extract the icaarin and boost it as per the "science stuff" I linked, as the pharma is also a PDE5, cheaper and stronger.

Good call about a penis pump or a cock ring. 

FWIW the best advice I've heard on the matter is a balanced healthy lifestyle. 

[mrfishyfoo]

Ah right!, day tip to Wales then;?...

 

[dobob]

Maybe because most of us are reasonably intelligent and as well as seeking professional medical advice, we like to share our experiences which might be helpful to other members about performance issues.

Exactly! I had snarky comments along these lines on a thread I started a while ago (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=339432.msg3575138#msg3575138). I was please to get some support from Doc Holliday in that thread. Anecdotal evidence and shared experiences about medication is very valuable. "Believe your doctor" is motherhood and not wisdom.

Cheers!

[daviemac]

Exactly! I had snarky comments along these lines on a thread I started a while ago (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=339432.msg3575138#msg3575138). I was please to get some support from Doc Holliday in that thread. Anecdotal evidence and shared experiences about medication is very valuable. "Believe your doctor" is motherhood and not wisdom.

Cheers!

This thread is not about prescription drugs, it's about natural enhancers, there's a world of difference.

BTW my personal opinion that anyone asking for advice about prescription drugs on a punting forum and not a medical professional is an idiot still stands.

[dobob]

This thread is not about prescription drugs, it's about natural enhancers, there's a world of difference.

BTW my personal opinion that anyone asking for advice about prescription drugs on a punting forum and not a medical professional is an idiot still stands.

The "world of difference" doesn't apply to what I was commenting on. And why is someone an idiot if they ask for advice on a punting forum as well as from a medical professional?

Cheers - and try not to be so snarky! Calling intelligent people idiots is unhelpful.