Are Brazilians the new Romanians?

[Metalgear2018]

3 years ago I saw 2 Brazilian working girls in a flat not at the same time. But the service I received was amazing from start to finish. kissing was provided and owo. The punt would overrun and the maid would knock on the door as a reminder to finish.

Now fast forward to 2019 and 2020. Brazilian working girls are offering a poor service. no kissing on the lips, complaining of the size of the manhood. refusing to see certain individuals. constantly insisting you finish early. wet wipes on your dick before the condom is applied (wtf) and lots of cold lube.

I'm also thinking are Brazilian working girls trafficked by the same gangs and maids as the Roms. I'm finding myself avoiding Brazilians because I know I will get a poor service.

[Ilovebbw]

I might be wrong but I think a lot of Roms advertise as Brazilian to come across as more appealing. Obviously they know a lot of punters have a pretty low opinion of them and their origin usually sets alarm bells ringing, so advertising as a latino hottie could easily skew a blokes punting compass.

[bobby1973]

roms are also advertising as russian 

[freeze44]

No.....

[Beamer]

The only Brazilian I have had (before ukp) forgot to ask me for the money. I realised when I got outside, went back and paid the money and she gave me a freebie, for being so nice.  Then discovered it was her first day trying to earn extra £s to get through college  !!  Hope she made it !!

[Herts_Outcaller]

I posted a thread about two particular Brazilian girls giving me the run-around. https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=215079.msg2182212#msg2182212

I still see those girls now, and they are still both brilliant and erratic.

Thinking about last year, seen a few Brazilians and Romanians and, really, you can't at all tarnish them all with the same brush. Say Brazilian Bianca / now Hannah Rogue, look up her UK punting reviews, mostly good. Say this girl as well, Sarina. External Link/Members Only. I saw both recently, didn't care about nationality as the reviews were good in UK Punting

Your best bet is to weigh up the reviews on here rather than look at nationality

[muffdiver]

Yes and unless there's Intel on here i avoid both.

[sunnyj]

Yes and unless there's Intel on here i avoid both.

If everyone follows this then how are we going to get any intel about these SPs?     Someone need to take the plunge and report it here. 

Like any other nationalities, I got equally good and bad experiences from these two nationalities. 

This is my own self guide that I use when I see an unreviewed SP
First thing that I look at is the profile pics. Should be attractive enough to justify spending my hard earned money. I am attracted towards anything like pretty face, bubble butt, nice tits, FAF body, sexy milfy look or just plain GND look.
Photoshopped profiles are avoided and filtered ones are fine.
Read the profile summary and details. I should get good vibes when reading her profile. Bonus if it's verified profile and double bonus if verification pic is visible.
Profiles asking for deposit are blacklisted.
Price should be reasonable for the location.
Check other profiles within the same location. Usually they work in groups and can easily identify the linked profiles. Check if there are any reviews for those linked profiles.
Search the phone number & pics and see if you get any hit.
Check the enjoys list and see if she provides what you are looking for. Check both Bareback and Unprotected sex are not selected.
Should get good vibes while contacting here.
Usually I go for a 15 Mins quickie or max 30 mins booking for unreviewed SPs.
Walk if it's a bait and switch or don't like what you are seeing.

[nightbot]

Doesn't AW verifaction require a copy of passport which then determines what nationality gets displayed on the profile by the AW system?
If so then I wonder how these girls are able to state their nationality as Brazilian instead of their actual nationality.

[freeze44]

Doesn't AW verifaction require a copy of passport which then determines what nationality gets displayed on the profile by the AW system?
If so then I wonder how these girls are able to state their nationality as Brazilian instead of their actual nationality.

Thing is profiles get sold on/faked etc so pretty easy to mislead.

[peter purves]

If everyone follows this then how are we going to get any intel about these SPs?     Someone need to take the plunge and report it here. 

Like any other nationalities, I got equally good and bad experiences from these two nationalities. 

This is my own self guide that I use when I see an unreviewed SP
First thing that I look at is the profile pics. Should be attractive enough to justify spending my hard earned money. I am attracted towards anything like pretty face, bubble butt, nice tits, FAF body, sexy milfy look or just plain GND look.
Photoshopped profiles are avoided and filtered ones are fine.
Read the profile summary and details. I should get good vibes when reading her profile. Bonus if it's verified profile and double bonus if verification pic is visible.
Profiles asking for deposit are blacklisted.
Price should be reasonable for the location.
Check other profiles within the same location. Usually they work in groups and can easily identify the linked profiles. Check if there are any reviews for those linked profiles.
Search the phone number & pics and see if you get any hit.
Check the enjoys list and see if she provides what you are looking for. Check both Bareback and Unprotected sex are not selected.
Should get good vibes while contacting here.
Usually I go for a 15 Mins quickie or max 30 mins booking for unreviewed SPs.
Walk if it's a bait and switch or don't like what you are seeing.

A good systematic approach here.

Though I see 'good vibes' the tangential is referred to twice. 

[Taggart]

Are Brazilians the new Romanians?

TBH, I’ve been very surprised at the high number of profiles I’ve looked at that claim Brazilian.  And I’m not convinced they are all bona fide, that with a language barrier. No, not for me.

[20jay]

The stated nationality is often a lie, I have spoken to Italians who do not understand a word of Italian, to Germans who do not understand a word of German and to Spaniards who do not understand Spanish. I give nothing on the stated nationality until I have spoken to the girl. At "cum esti draga" you will see how she react

[20jay]

Like any other nationalities, I got equally good and bad experiences from these two nationalities. 


Usually I go for a 15 Mins quickie or max 30 mins booking for unreviewed SPs.
Walk if it's a bait and switch or don't like what you are seeing.

   That's my way too ..I only book longer if she becomes a regular

[sparkus]

The stated nationality is often a lie, I have spoken to Italians who do not understand a word of Italian, to Germans who do not understand a word of German and to Spaniards who do not understand Spanish. I give nothing on the stated nationality until I have spoken to the girl. At "cum esti draga" you will see how she react

It's amazing how many Albanians are 'Italian' as well 

It's a usual red flag on here, the so-called nationality and yet can't speak the language.  TBH I just take it with a pinch of salt and go for the sex.

As for Brazilians, I'd say 80% I've seen have been warm and enthusiastic fucks, I'd say the ratio is reversed with Roms.  EE overall, men and women, tell me that western Europeans wrongly interpret their behaviour as 'cold' when it's just that they're like that all the time and with each other as well.

[20jay]

It's amazing how many Albanians are 'Italian' as well 

It's a usual red flag on here, the so-called nationality and yet can't speak the language.  TBH I just take it with a pinch of salt and go for the sex.

As for Brazilians, I'd say 80% I've seen have been warm and enthusiastic fucks, I'd say the ratio is reversed with Roms.  EE overall, men and women, tell me that western Europeans wrongly interpret their behaviour as 'cold' when it's just that they're like that all the time and with each other as well.

Since Roms seem to be in the majority, I have the worst experiences with them. Otherwise, the relationship is balanced.

..and what means EE ? Espaniol Escort ?

[sunnyj]

Since Roms seem to be in the majority, I have the worst experiences with them. Otherwise, the relationship is balanced.

..and what means EE ? Espaniol Escort ?

Eastern European

[20jay]

...silly me    thank's mate

EDIT I had a cute Rom as a regular for over 3 months, now she is gone, pity

[sunnyj]

...silly me    thank's mate

EDIT I had a cute Rom as a regular for over 3 months, now she is gone, pity

One good thing I see from these two nationalities SPs is that I never got even slightest EAS with any of them.   
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[20jay]

One good thing I see from these two nationalities SPs is that I never got even slightest EAS with any of them.   
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Hahahaha I'm far from EAS, I've some regulars in other countrys too    ( Thank's for the link to glossary  )

[sunnyj]

Hahahaha I'm far from EAS, I've some regulars in other countrys too    ( Thank's for the link to glossary  )

[winkywanky]

Brazilians I have seen have been hot and up for it. On one occasion it was two girls in the flat, and the girl I was with invited her mate in because she was feeling left out! 

Contrast that with Roms, the majority of whom seem to want you to get out as quickly as possible, having done as little as possible to satisfy you.

[20jay]

Contrast that with Roms, the majority of whom seem to want you to get out as quickly as possible, having done as little as possible to satisfy you.

Very true .... that's my experience too as already said months ago .
*Exceptions also confirm the rule here.

[sunnyj]

Brazilians I have seen have been hot and up for it. On one occasion it was two girls in the flat, and the girl I was with invited her mate in because she was feeling left out! 

Contrast that with Roms, the majority of whom seem to want you to get out as quickly as possible, having done as little as possible to satisfy you.

True and the reason why I go for 15 mins quickies or max 30 mins with Roms.
As of now punting is all about variety for me, also I am looking for basic vanilla service and Roms seems to be one of the nationalities that meets my requirements. 

[20jay]

True and the reason why I go for 15 mins quickies or max 30 mins with Roms.
As of now punting is all about variety for me, also I am looking for basic vanilla service and Roms seems to be one of the nationalities that meets my requirements. 

That's how it looks here too, nationality doesn't matter. Value for money should be right, call me Scrooge

[hockogrockle]

It's amazing how many Albanians are 'Italian' as well 

Surprisingly, this is possible. There is a small area of Italy where they are bilingual in  Italian and Albanian. I was in Perugia during the summer, and the airport there has only two international flights: one goes to Stansted daily, and the other is three times a week to Tirane, the capital of Albania.
Having said that, I reckon, like most posters on this thread, that most "Spanish", "Brazilian" and (especially) "Italian" girls are Romanians trying to disguise their nationality. The vocabulary and grammar of Italian and Romanian are really quite similar.

[ulstersubbie]

Brazilians, Romanians, Czechs, Peruvians, Latvians, North Koreans(a bit of a stretch I admit!), at the end of the day a cunt is a cunt, just saying....

[20jay]

Surprisingly, this is possible. There is a small area of Italy where they are bilingual in  Italian and Albanian. I was in Perugia during the summer, and the airport there has only two international flights: one goes to Stansted daily, and the other is three times a week to Tirane, the capital of Albania.
Having said that, I reckon, like most posters on this thread, that most "Spanish", "Brazilian" and (especially) "Italian" girls are Romanians trying to disguise their nationality. The vocabulary and grammar of Italian and Romanian are really quite similar.

Simple ..Both languages are based on Latin. I bears the big latinum, so I understand halfway Italian and Romanian

[ulstersubbie]

The stated nationality is often a lie, I have spoken to Italians who do not understand a word of Italian, to Germans who do not understand a word of German and to Spaniards who do not understand Spanish. I give nothing on the stated nationality until I have spoken to the girl. At "cum esti draga" you will see how she react

Take myself, I was born in Scotland(left when I was two years old) but have an English accent, proudly Scottish but resident in N Ireland. Unless you see the relevant documentation, people can claim any kind of nationality.

[20jay]

That is why I do not give anything to the statements about nationality, as I said. I was born somewhere in Europe and have lived pretty much everywhere..

EDIT : Rudeness and poor service have no nationality...

[hockogrockle]

EDIT : Rudeness and poor service have no nationality...

Perhaps not. But it amazing how often that "no nationality" turns out to be Romanian! (Or to be more precise, Roma Gypsy.)

[20jay]

Perhaps not. But it amazing how often that "no nationality" turns out to be Romanian! (Or to be more precise, Roma Gypsy.)

As said at #15 Roms seem to be in the majority, maybe therefore  the worse experiences with them

[Hungarian Lover]

Well the three Brazilians that I have seen were enthusiastic, good looking (well two of them were) not clock watchers and certainly far better than most of the Roms I've seen.

[Southendlothario]

I posted a thread about two particular Brazilian girls giving me the run-around. https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=215079.msg2182212#msg2182212

I still see those girls now, and they are still both brilliant and erratic.

Thinking about last year, seen a few Brazilians and Romanians and, really, you can't at all tarnish them all with the same brush. Say Brazilian Bianca / now Hannah Rogue, look up her UK punting reviews, mostly good. Say this girl as well, Sarina. External Link/Members Only. I saw both recently, didn't care about nationality as the reviews were good in UK Punting

Your best bet is to weigh up the reviews on here rather than look at nationality

Even better idea:..... Boycott both Brazilians and Romanians. Getting a decent service off of either is pretty much needle in haystack territory. Therefore they are simply a waste of time and money. 
It will get the idea accross to both them and their pimps eventually and they'll either up their game or fuck off elsewhere.

[20jay]

At the moment, every word is too much, about hookers. Crappy service is standard with the exception of some high-priced hookers who believe that there are around London only be coke noses from the banks' investment department. It won't get any better with Brexit,the few passable Polish and Hungarian women will soon leave the country for Europe. I can only wish everyone a lot of fun with the overpriced British beauties in the future.

[sunnyj]

Someone did an analysis of UKP reviews and below are the findings. 
It only applies to London region and WGs in the age bracket 18-24.

I also started an analysis of the girls' reports on UKPunting - I only completed the 18-24 year old bracket for each of British, Romanian and Polish. Amongst those reviews there were a group of British girls who weren't British (no surprises there), and I'm sure there will be a considerable number of Brazilians who aren't Brazilian.

Anyway, I looked up the IDs on UKPunting of 162 girls this afternoon - all British, Romanian and Polish in the 18-24 year old bracket. Of those 162 girls, 89 had at least one review (or some kind of feedback about their services) on this forum.

This is where it gets interesting - remember this is just 18-24 year olds.

Of the Polish girls, 91% had a review of some kind.
Of the Romanian girls, 55% had a review of some kind.
Of the British girls, just 33% had a review of some kind.

I grouped the girls into three brackets: positive (mainly positive); mixed (negative, neutral, positive); negative (mainly negative). Some girls only had one review so they defaulted to that review (i.e., negative = negative; neutral = mixed; positive = positive). A single neutral = mixed isn't strictly correct but it will do. The data includes no shows for appointments and B&S (all defaulting to negatives.)

The results are as follows (the percentages are versus the total N who had been reviewed, so girls with no reviews weren't included in the calculation):
Romanian = 33% mainly positive reviews
Polish = 22% mainly positive reviews
British = 20% mainly positive reviews

Romanian = 54% mainly negative reviews
Polish = 53% mainly negative reviews
British = 50% mainly negative reviews

The remainder were mixed.

Very interesting looking at this data - the biggest question is why so few British girls have been reviewed (just N = 20, compared to 37 Romanians and 32 Poles). Maybe it's price, maybe it's because there are so many fake British profiles. And if there are a larger number of fake British profiles it means that the real British N at the top of the thread is much lower - but this data seems to suggest that fewer people see and review British girls - why is that?

And generally speaking you have a 50% chance of a service provider being bad. And even more simplification might suggest a one-in-five chance they will be good (rising to one-in-three for Romanians), assuming you chose service providers randomly.

[20jay]

"And generally speaking you have a 50% chance of a service provider being bad"

 Okay that's not really surprising . Otherwise it is difficult with the nationalities, many alleged Latinas, no matter whether Italian or Spaniards, are Romanian in the end. Many British women have only an British passport, were born in Britain but their roots are abroad.

I think the bad reputation of the Romanian women is based on the fact that they outnumber them in this business, inevitably they also have the most customers and so may have more bad reviews.

[ghostrider]

I had the unfortunate experience of questioning Laura Brazil's pictures.

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Here is what I said:
   
I nearly fell for your fake profile. No wonder so many people don't go near brazilian ladies any more

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Reply:
"I don't know if you noticed, my photos have no markings, it's me, but what to expect from someone looking for dirty sex like you? If you think it's better, then don't look for prostitutes and don't disturb me anymore".
I then said:
"Nice reply, when you are busted. I'll pass this onto others to warn them you are a scam, bye".
Got this back:
   
"I have documents, let's explain why you are looking for dirty sex, you don't even know me to say what I am, leave me alone, I don't even know you to be disturbing me, fuck you son of a bitch"

These are the url for the pics she is using:
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And: External Link/Members Only

So, needless to say I will NOT be visiting this one.  Lol


This has been done on my phone so I apologise if there are mistakes.

[Home Alone]

One good thing I see from these two nationalities SPs is that I never got even slightest EAS with any of them.   
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Brilliant, sunnyj!!

[willie loman]

Many Romanians have been sex workers for up to 15 years,moving around Europe, so often speak other languages to an extent, Italian, Spanish etc,and of course often pretend to be Italian etc, the ones who have decided to go native and stay in Britain for good, offer decent service, that's my experience.

[Pennine Rover]

I've noted a few south American girls around. I've always wondered how non EU girls get here and are allowed to work or are they "tourists"  who just happen to be prostitutes?   The flight to get here will be costly and there is presumably a network here to "help" them. The same with the Thai girls. They seem to come and go as they please. 
In my area it looks as though the Roms have gone home but still a few Thai and Columbians here working from houses.

[zxc]

EE overall, men and women, tell me that western Europeans wrongly interpret their behaviour as 'cold' when it's just that they're like that all the time and with each other as well.

Totally agree. I have traveled to Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia and I can tell they behave the same in their countries.

Russian GWs are famous for being as cold as beautiful. However, they are the most professional WGs. If you understand that they are not just cold with you, you can enjoy great sex with superb hot GWs.

I have fucked many Romanians and, to be honest, the ratio of positive experiences is greater than with the English girls. There are fewer scammers among the Romanians and they are less overpriced. The most frequent complaint that I normally read is that they ask extras for everything... Well, it can be true, but quite often is because people do not read their profiles well or because people don't ask about rates and services on the phone.

Furthermore, what is an escort booking over the webcam? In the best-case scenario, it is a hidden fee, in the worst-case scenario, it is a scam and the girls will try to get you on cam as long as possible without any intention of escorting. In either case, it is a dishonest behavior that is so popular with English girls and it rarely happens among EE GWs.

[sunnyj]

Brilliant, sunnyj!!

[sunnyj]

My response in a similar thread from regional discussion

From my experience Latinas are as good/bad as any other group. I rarely go for extras and I prefer vanilla service with covered bj. 
Below list provides the total number of WGs that I have seen in recent years (since I started recording my punts) and percentage of bad WGs

Nationality - Total WGs - Positive & Neutral experience - Negative experience - % of bad WGs
Hungarian  - 20 - 17 - 3 - 15.00
Polish - 12 - 10 - 2 - 16.67
Latina - 16 - 13 - 3 - 18.75
Romanian - 22 - 17 - 5 - 22.72
British - 14 - 10 - 4 - 28.57

Polish and British will come on top if I count based on number of punts.   

[Home Alone]

My response in a similar thread from regional discussion Polish and British will come on top if I count based on number of punts.   

I could easily imagine that. I've only seen one Polish lass over the years; but she could have become a Regular if she hadn't gone back to Gdansk. 

[winkywanky]

I could easily imagine that. I've only seen one Polish lass over the years; but she could have become a Regular if she hadn't gone back to Gdansk. 

Big girl? Has she gone back to her day job as a riveter in the shipyard there? 

[zxc]

I've noted a few south American girls around. I've always wondered how non EU girls get here and are allowed to work or are they "tourists"  who just happen to be prostitutes?

For a south American girl is a piece of cake to get either an Italian, Spanish or Portuguese passport so they become EU citizens.

[NIK]

I heard years ago that Brazilians were crap.
Only seen three. The last was a crap minger in Notting Hill, made all the more galling because I'd booked her only because I couldn't get a last minute appt with a regular.

The earlier one was a two girl in Bayswater. It was memorable because the second girl was late for the appt and when I arrived only one was there. She offered to provide a solo service if I didn't want to wait for her mate. However, I decided to wait.
Whilst the first girl was so ordinary I have totally forgotten what she looked like, her mate was actually a bit of a stunner, one of the best looking prossies I have seen. The service, as always for me with two girl was pretty poor, and as ever, they didn't interact with each other. (I must have had well over 50 2 girl appts and only 2/3 times  have they done much with each other. Despite my extensive experience I cannot reconcile all these ecstatic reports of hot lezzy action.   )
Anyway, as the second girl was such a hottie I subsequently booked her again solo. Unfortunately her performance fell well short of her looks.
So in my very limited experience of Brazilians, yes, they are crap. 

[ProtocolDroid]

I've only had two punts with (genuinely) Brazilian girls. One reviewed here; both were excellent. Both slim girls but with great curves, relaxed attitude and enthusiastic service.

A sample size of two is pretty much meaningless of course, but I nevertheless actively look for more of them on the strength of these experiences, hoping to find some others with nice and authentic looking photos.