Seeking Arrangement in Europe

[lisbonmidnight]

I'm hoping I don't get dunked on too much for starting a new thread about Seeking Arrangement, but one topic that I haven't seen discussed much is a comparison of Seeking Arrangement across different countries around Europe and the wider world. As a somewhat long-term user of SA, I have used it quite extensively abroad in various European capitals, and can offer some thoughts on different cities (albeit maybe a bit out of date now), which I might try adding to this thread sometime. I wondered if this could be a useful place to share insights on things like allowances and how active the user base is in each place around Europe?

I'm looking at a city break around Europe in a month or two (in addition to a few work trips in the next month), and was trying to eye up which city would give the best combination of the below.

1. A decent user base on SA with the chance to meet lots of young local girls/students (generally 18-25yo) for dates and a couple of PPMs
2. Decent VFM leveraging GBP/local currency purchasing power for PPM
3. Cheap flights and AirBnB, cheap food/booze
4. Mixture of alternative SPs/massage places as a bit of variety
5. Interesting stuff to do alongside shagging

If the idea of a SA holiday/bit of fun alongside your business trip is alien to you, here's how it works. As a bit of context, I'm single guy, young-ish, decent earner, but I guess there's no reason this wouldn't work for most age groups.

• About 4-6 weeks out, start messaging girls who take your fancy. You'll need to send quite a few messages (bit of copying and pasting here and there), but for a big city you'll probably start to get chatting to a few hot young things on a friendly basis. Explain you'll be visiting for work and would like to meet someone local, lots of girls will reply quite positively since it compartmentalises things a bit more, and of course if you visit the same place often for work (even if just annually or something) it pays to make a new friend and be able to meet up several times.
• Once your trip approaches, start arranging specifics like an afternoon/evening to meet up, and set expectations with PPM (I've had some incredible PPMs for as little as 100 euros before). Discuss if you're meeting for drinks/to have dinner/go to an attraction, and whether it's a few hours or overnight etc., etc.
• Line up a few dates for each day/night you're there and free, but always be prepared for plans to change.

If this all sounds like a lot of work and quite different to just punting in an FKK or something, that's because it is. It's very much a dating holiday/vibe rather than just a punting kinda thing, but god when it works it's so worth it. Assuming I'm not the only member of this forum to do something similar so hoping this thread can maybe help in sharing knowledge.

Current Best Seeking Cities in Europe

In my experience, London is probably one of the best cities in the world for Seeking currently, but obviously with that comes higher PPM allowances/expectations, and well, just being a smaller fish in a bigger pond. However, the other top three I think are probably...

1. Lisbon - great, bit cheaper, but slightly smaller user base
2. Berlin - bit cheaper than London but not much
3. Paris - essentially the same as London but you just do everything in French

Current plan is to explore Bucharest, which seems to have a very high user base and would tick the other requirements above, but I'm wondering if fellow UKP members might have insight to share?

Perhaps useful contributions could be sharing any experiences of Seeking in other cities, with rough PPM amounts and other tips?

[Steve2]

Bucharest seems a good option.

Some Romanian phrases would help

As you say, a large user base

[stanr]

I have just had a month on Seeking.

Whilst primarily looking for someone local here in uk, i also investigated New Zealand, as i am going there next year for 2 months. To my surprise it was so easy to chat to a wide range of girls all ready to meet up..ok I couldnt take things further as i havent got dates for my trip yet, but got 6 ladies on Whats app already.

I also did the same for Ho Chi Min City in Vietnam as i am planning a holiday there soon...again i got about 5 ladies on whats app all with agreed ppms for spending a day with me sightseeing, eating and intimacy...

Appreciate that this thread is about Seeking in Europe, but just adding a bit extra to the whole idea of using it in other countries.

[updownandaround]

I'm hoping I don't get dunked on too much for starting a new thread about Seeking Arrangement, but one topic that I haven't seen discussed much is a comparison of Seeking Arrangement across different countries around Europe and the wider world. As a somewhat long-term user of SA, I have used it quite extensively abroad in various European capitals, and can offer some thoughts on different cities (albeit maybe a bit out of date now), which I might try adding to this thread sometime. I wondered if this could be a useful place to share insights on things like allowances and how active the user base is in each place around Europe?

I'm looking at a city break around Europe in a month or two (in addition to a few work trips in the next month), and was trying to eye up which city would give the best combination of the below.

1. A decent user base on SA with the chance to meet lots of young local girls/students (generally 18-25yo) for dates and a couple of PPMs
2. Decent VFM leveraging GBP/local currency purchasing power for PPM
3. Cheap flights and AirBnB, cheap food/booze
4. Mixture of alternative SPs/massage places as a bit of variety
5. Interesting stuff to do alongside shagging

If the idea of a SA holiday/bit of fun alongside your business trip is alien to you, here's how it works. As a bit of context, I'm single guy, young-ish, decent earner, but I guess there's no reason this wouldn't work for most age groups.

• About 4-6 weeks out, start messaging girls who take your fancy. You'll need to send quite a few messages (bit of copying and pasting here and there), but for a big city you'll probably start to get chatting to a few hot young things on a friendly basis. Explain you'll be visiting for work and would like to meet someone local, lots of girls will reply quite positively since it compartmentalises things a bit more, and of course if you visit the same place often for work (even if just annually or something) it pays to make a new friend and be able to meet up several times.
• Once your trip approaches, start arranging specifics like an afternoon/evening to meet up, and set expectations with PPM (I've had some incredible PPMs for as little as 100 euros before). Discuss if you're meeting for drinks/to have dinner/go to an attraction, and whether it's a few hours or overnight etc., etc.
• Line up a few dates for each day/night you're there and free, but always be prepared for plans to change.

If this all sounds like a lot of work and quite different to just punting in an FKK or something, that's because it is. It's very much a dating holiday/vibe rather than just a punting kinda thing, but god when it works it's so worth it. Assuming I'm not the only member of this forum to do something similar so hoping this thread can maybe help in sharing knowledge.

Current Best Seeking Cities in Europe

In my experience, London is probably one of the best cities in the world for Seeking currently, but obviously with that comes higher PPM allowances/expectations, and well, just being a smaller fish in a bigger pond. However, the other top three I think are probably...

1. Lisbon - great, bit cheaper, but slightly smaller user base
2. Berlin - bit cheaper than London but not much
3. Paris - essentially the same as London but you just do everything in French

Current plan is to explore Bucharest, which seems to have a very high user base and would tick the other requirements above, but I'm wondering if fellow UKP members might have insight to share?

Perhaps useful contributions could be sharing any experiences of Seeking in other cities, with rough PPM amounts and other tips?

Paris and Amsterdam are (in my experience) the best cities to target with SA followed closely by Barcelona and Madrid. I am planning a trip to Paris in a couple of weeks and have quite the "to do" list for the area.

[lisbonmidnight]

Paris and Amsterdam are (in my experience) the best cities to target with SA followed closely by Barcelona and Madrid. I am planning a trip to Paris in a couple of weeks and have quite the "to do" list for the area.

Nice. What kind of PPM allowances do you tend to go for in each city?

[Steve2]

Nice. What kind of PPM allowances do you tend to go for in each city?

I had very little success in Paris but Berlin was almost a goldmine, one American who thought I should have paid her more and 1 German who was happy to spend several days with me over a few months for nothing but being treated nicely

[royal_male]

I'm hoping I don't get dunked on too much for starting a new thread about Seeking Arrangement, but one topic that I haven't seen discussed much is a comparison of Seeking Arrangement across different countries around Europe and the wider world. As a somewhat long-term user of SA, I have used it quite extensively abroad in various European capitals, and can offer some thoughts on different cities (albeit maybe a bit out of date now), which I might try adding to this thread sometime. I wondered if this could be a useful place to share insights on things like allowances and how active the user base is in each place around Europe?

I'm looking at a city break around Europe in a month or two (in addition to a few work trips in the next month), and was trying to eye up which city would give the best combination of the below.

1. A decent user base on SA with the chance to meet lots of young local girls/students (generally 18-25yo) for dates and a couple of PPMs
2. Decent VFM leveraging GBP/local currency purchasing power for PPM
3. Cheap flights and AirBnB, cheap food/booze
4. Mixture of alternative SPs/massage places as a bit of variety
5. Interesting stuff to do alongside shagging

If the idea of a SA holiday/bit of fun alongside your business trip is alien to you, here's how it works. As a bit of context, I'm single guy, young-ish, decent earner, but I guess there's no reason this wouldn't work for most age groups.

• About 4-6 weeks out, start messaging girls who take your fancy. You'll need to send quite a few messages (bit of copying and pasting here and there), but for a big city you'll probably start to get chatting to a few hot young things on a friendly basis. Explain you'll be visiting for work and would like to meet someone local, lots of girls will reply quite positively since it compartmentalises things a bit more, and of course if you visit the same place often for work (even if just annually or something) it pays to make a new friend and be able to meet up several times.
• Once your trip approaches, start arranging specifics like an afternoon/evening to meet up, and set expectations with PPM (I've had some incredible PPMs for as little as 100 euros before). Discuss if you're meeting for drinks/to have dinner/go to an attraction, and whether it's a few hours or overnight etc., etc.
• Line up a few dates for each day/night you're there and free, but always be prepared for plans to change.

If this all sounds like a lot of work and quite different to just punting in an FKK or something, that's because it is. It's very much a dating holiday/vibe rather than just a punting kinda thing, but god when it works it's so worth it. Assuming I'm not the only member of this forum to do something similar so hoping this thread can maybe help in sharing knowledge.

Current Best Seeking Cities in Europe

In my experience, London is probably one of the best cities in the world for Seeking currently, but obviously with that comes higher PPM allowances/expectations, and well, just being a smaller fish in a bigger pond. However, the other top three I think are probably...

1. Lisbon - great, bit cheaper, but slightly smaller user base
2. Berlin - bit cheaper than London but not much
3. Paris - essentially the same as London but you just do everything in French

Current plan is to explore Bucharest, which seems to have a very high user base and would tick the other requirements above, but I'm wondering if fellow UKP members might have insight to share?

Perhaps useful contributions could be sharing any experiences of Seeking in other cities, with rough PPM amounts and other tips?

Can you use the free version to scout for woman? or does the offering change after being a premium subscriber?

I have thought abou this idea before, but this is a whole new take on using SA as a vacation filler. Thanks a lot for the tip.

On average how many girls do you need to contact before getting a hit, is it like 80% or like something like dating?

[tightfoot69]

I used it in South America with good success. I also used it to investigate South Africa because I was planning a trip there this year and got quite a few girls willing to meet up. That trip is off though until hopefully next year.

When it comes to Europe though the effort you have to put in to find a decent girl puts me off when you can just visit a good WG. Especially in cities with a lot of options like Berlin, Prague and Barcelona. I am visiting Spain in a couple of weeks and thought of joining but probably won’t because of those reasons.

If anybody has used seeking for the major Spanish cities with good success I would be interested to know. But when girls start asking for €400 for a PPM it is hard to justify.

[lisbonmidnight]

I had very little success in Paris but Berlin was almost a goldmine, one American who thought I should have paid her more and 1 German who was happy to spend several days with me over a few months for nothing but being treated nicely

Berlin before the pandemic was amazing. Lots of international and German students who would all have a fun night out with a PPM less than 200 EUR. On a trip back since it's not been the same, but maybe that's because I was there for a short trip and didn't invest much time in the work beforehand. Tried Artemis, not my cup of tea.

[lisbonmidnight]

I used it in South America with good success. I also used it to investigate South Africa because I was planning a trip there this year and got quite a few girls willing to meet up. That trip is off though until hopefully next year.

When it comes to Europe though the effort you have to put in to find a decent girl puts me off when you can just visit a good WG. Especially in cities with a lot of options like Berlin, Prague and Barcelona. I am visiting Spain in a couple of weeks and thought of joining but probably won’t because of those reasons.

If anybody has used seeking for the major Spanish cities with good success I would be interested to know. But when girls start asking for €400 for a PPM it is hard to justify.

Had some luck in Barcelona, pre-pandemic. Haven't been back to Spain since. PPMs for 100-200 euro, generally nice locals. I prefer SBs to WGs as I tend to also stay in touch after/re-visit when I'm next back. WGs I've seen around Europe tend to be similar to UK, and always tends to feel riskier.

[lisbonmidnight]

Can you use the free version to scout for woman? or does the offering change after being a premium subscriber?

I have thought abou this idea before, but this is a whole new take on using SA as a vacation filler. Thanks a lot for the tip.

On average how many girls do you need to contact before getting a hit, is it like 80% or like something like dating?

Yes, you need to be a premium subscriber. It's about 90 GBP a month I think? I just subscribe continuously, it's kind of a hobby I guess (albeit quite an expensive one, as I'm sure we all know!).

It depends on the city. Small places might have fewer than 20 girls active at one time, of whom you might want to see only like 10. So, 10 polite messages, you might get 2-3 able and willing to meet at a mutually convenient time whilst you're there for an arrangement you're both cool with.

Larger places, despite having more members, tend to require more legwork with messages. Having some success with Bucharest so far, but will start properly messaging in a month or two. Mostly meeting in the UK currently.

[southcoastpunter]

Can you use the free version to scout for woman? or does the offering change after being a premium subscriber?

depends on what you mean by "scout for women". 

As a (free) basic member you can search for women in any location where there are seeking lady members - so yes you can search and see profiles of ladies in say Paris or New York or wherever........BUT you cannot contact them, nor could you read a message from anyone that messages you - well not until you subscibe. So you can get a feel of whats around in a location (apart from some will be fake profiles, some scammers some fruit cases but hopefully a few genuine!

[royal_male]

The subscription seems rather high to me. 90 GBP/month, it works if you are able to get relatively cheap longer dates. I was looking into a longer date with a EE agency which quoted 2300Eu for 4 days. Is seeking cheaper than that?

[southcoastpunter]

The subscription seems rather high to me. 90 GBP/month, it works if you are able to get relatively cheap longer dates. I was looking into a longer date with a EE agency which quoted 2300Eu for 4 days. Is seeking cheaper than that?

You really need to invest an hour or so and read back on some of the seeking threads. Seeking is not an escort agency, nor is it like AW or VS etc. And it certainly is not cheap and it certainly will take up a fair bit of your time - you don't just see a lady you like, bookk her and off you go.! If you directly (or even in-directly) offer money for sex you will get banned.

What it can do, is provide a lady that is interested in you and interersted in fucking you and it can represent VFM. Depending where you are going and if you have the time to put into it - it could well work well for you.  But do your research

[Currywurst]

Hey Lisbonmidnight,
 
Good effort trying to start an EU thread.
 
I've seen most SA threads to be micro-geo-based, which is fair.
 
Broadening it out to EU is def good call. I can see how it differs in lead time (of arrangement), co-ordinating visits, and cross-currency challenges.
 
All in all, quite a fun pursuit if there's a bit of spare time at hand.
 
For me personally (and this may be the wrong place to post this) is the challenge of upgrading on SA without leaving an electronic trail of payment on my statement. I haven't yet found a cash-mode of upgrading. If there was, I've given this EU zone a go too.

[Steve2]

Hey Lisbonmidnight,
 
Good effort trying to start an EU thread.
 
I've seen most SA threads to be micro-geo-based, which is fair.
 
Broadening it out to EU is def good call. I can see how it differs in lead time (of arrangement), co-ordinating visits, and cross-currency challenges.
 
All in all, quite a fun pursuit if there's a bit of spare time at hand.
 
For me personally (and this may be the wrong place to post this) is the challenge of upgrading on SA without leaving an electronic trail of payment on my statement. I haven't yet found a cash-mode of upgrading. If there was, I've given this EU zone a go too.

Read back though the thread but I think people mentioned a Revolut card for anonymous payment

[royal_male]

If you directly (or even in-directly) offer money for sex you will get banned.

Can you please explain it to me then? so it is like dating but with direct cash transactions involved. So you dont explictly mention it, however OP presents the idea to get all these details out of the way before meeting up.

[tightfoot69]

Can you please explain it to me then? so it is like dating but with direct cash transactions involved. So you dont explictly mention it, however OP presents the idea to get all these details out of the way before meeting up.

Just move the conversation to WhatsApp if you want to discuss the finer details. You can usually tell by the girl’s profile if they are up for it. They usually mention open relationship or no strings attached on what they are looking for.

[southcoastpunter]

Personally, i would say that there is much more to it than that - RM if you did your research (read a few of the existing SA threads) you would know that. Some ladies are ok with a PPM, others only want a monthly allowance arrangement.

And there are different uses of phrases by the women - i have had some use NSA to mean they want an allowance to start without the string attched of "sex in return". But tightfoot69 is right, don't talk about money at all on the SA system - always move to another platform such as WA!

But again, RM read up on it. virtually every question you can think of has already been asked and answered - and you can get some useful info to allow you to judge if it might be right for you. 

[royal_male]

Personally, i would say that there is much more to it than that - RM if you did your research (read a few of the existing SA threads) you would know that. Some ladies are ok with a PPM, others only want a monthly allowance arrangement.

And there are different uses of phrases by the women - i have had some use NSA to mean they want an allowance to start without the string attched of "sex in return". But tightfoot69 is right, don't talk about money at all on the SA system - always move to another platform such as WA!

But again, RM read up on it. virtually every question you can think of has already been asked and answered - and you can get some useful info to allow you to judge if it might be right for you.

Understood thank you, what is RM? unaware of this acronm.

[cunningman]

Understood thank you, what is RM? unaware of this acronm.

royal male?  you?

[southcoastpunter]

Understood thank you, what is RM? unaware of this acronm.

royal male?  you?

Yes sorry - RM = royal_male.

[lisbonmidnight]

Hey Lisbonmidnight,
 
Good effort trying to start an EU thread.
 
I've seen most SA threads to be micro-geo-based, which is fair.
 
Broadening it out to EU is def good call. I can see how it differs in lead time (of arrangement), co-ordinating visits, and cross-currency challenges.
 
All in all, quite a fun pursuit if there's a bit of spare time at hand.
 
For me personally (and this may be the wrong place to post this) is the challenge of upgrading on SA without leaving an electronic trail of payment on my statement. I haven't yet found a cash-mode of upgrading. If there was, I've given this EU zone a go too.

Revolut definitely helps here. Super easy, and also good for playing with FX without needing an investment account. I'm lucky in that I'm single and don't have anyone else reading my bank/credit card statements, so not really a concern. I think you could try a pre-paid card that you can buy from a newsagents or something and then  see how that works, but I have no idea how/if that works.

I guess to do SA stuff you need to be able to spend what you want without others questioning it... Like I said, definitely not a cheap hobby, but when it works, it really works.

Modified:

I said "I guess to do SA stuff you need to be able to spend what you want without others questioning it..." because, it won't just be the £90 a month plus a few cash/Monzo/Revolut PPMs, there are a lot of other expenses. Let's remove hotels from the equation for European trips (as these are usually either paid for by a client or at least tax-deductible so like 50-70% off), but there is still entertainment (local museum entry, a show, hell, in the past, even bowling), dinner, drinks, breakfast, or an uber if you decide against an overnight. Not to mention any other 1,001 different expenses that could arise. Plus, if you get to know eachother over a prolonged period, gifts, and so on. But like all told, that could be 450 EUR inc PPM if you play your cards right, maybe a bit less, maybe a lot more.

Compared to an EE agency, I'm sure it's a lot more work and maybe just as expensive, but not that much more. But, the experience, not just sexually but in terms of enjoyment, is vastly superior. But yeah, not a cheap hobby, sadly.

[royal_male]

Revolut definitely helps here. Super easy, and also good for playing with FX without needing an investment account. I'm lucky in that I'm single and don't have anyone else reading my bank/credit card statements, so not really a concern. I think you could try a pre-paid card that you can buy from a newsagents or something and then  see how that works, but I have no idea how/if that works.

I guess to do SA stuff you need to be able to spend what you want without others questioning it... Like I said, definitely not a cheap hobby, but when it works, it really works.

Modified:

I said "I guess to do SA stuff you need to be able to spend what you want without others questioning it..." because, it won't just be the £90 a month plus a few cash/Monzo/Revolut PPMs, there are a lot of other expenses. Let's remove hotels from the equation for European trips (as these are usually either paid for by a client or at least tax-deductible so like 50-70% off), but there is still entertainment (local museum entry, a show, hell, in the past, even bowling), dinner, drinks, breakfast, or an uber if you decide against an overnight. Not to mention any other 1,001 different expenses that could arise. Plus, if you get to know eachother over a prolonged period, gifts, and so on. But like all told, that could be 450 EUR inc PPM if you play your cards right, maybe a bit less, maybe a lot more.

Compared to an EE agency, I'm sure it's a lot more work and maybe just as expensive, but not that much more. But, the experience, not just sexually but in terms of enjoyment, is vastly superior. But yeah, not a cheap hobby, sadly.

Do you know any EE agency that does thee kind of trips?

[lisbonmidnight]

Do you know any EE agency that does thee kind of trips?

No, sorry, not used agencies before, but I'm sure some will provide it, but I imagine you'd be looking at several thousand euros...

[royal_male]

No, sorry, not used agencies before, but I'm sure some will provide it, but I imagine you'd be looking at several thousand euros...

So just to get an idea, you are looking at 450GBP/Month, is that the rough estimate?

[lisbonmidnight]

So just to get an idea, you are looking at 450GBP/Month, is that the rough estimate?

I was saying 450gbp as more of an estimate for a single meet on a trip. That might be a bit high depending on where, 300gbp if you're lucky/count fewer general costs like hotels and stuff. Total monthly spend on Seeking generally varies. Based on experience in London, it comes and goes, but probably closer to 1-1.5k a month. But it all varies depending on the punter, I guess. Some less, others, a lot more.

[myothernameis]

Bucharest seems a good option.

Some Romanian phrases would help

As you say, a large user base

You could use the monty python book of phrases

External Link/Members Only

[Steve2]

You could use the monty python book of phrases

External Link/Members Only

 

[royal_male]

I was saying 450gbp as more of an estimate for a single meet on a trip. That might be a bit high depending on where, 300gbp if you're lucky/count fewer general costs like hotels and stuff. Total monthly spend on Seeking generally varies. Based on experience in London, it comes and goes, but probably closer to 1-1.5k a month. But it all varies depending on the punter, I guess. Some less, others, a lot more.

Thanks a lot for your help, this is not in my budget right now. I appreciate your detailed response.

[Deaconfool]

Read back though the thread but I think people mentioned a Revolut card for anonymous payment

I use Google play fir payment.
You buy Google play vouchers from supermarket and just scan code.
Upside there's no trace through bank statements. 
Downside I've not found a discount code so it's coming in at £99

[Palace123]

I'm hoping I don't get dunked on too much for starting a new thread about Seeking Arrangement, but one topic that I haven't seen discussed much is a comparison of Seeking Arrangement across different countries around Europe and the wider world. As a somewhat long-term user of SA, I have used it quite extensively abroad in various European capitals, and can offer some thoughts on different cities (albeit maybe a bit out of date now), which I might try adding to this thread sometime. I wondered if this could be a useful place to share insights on things like allowances and how active the user base is in each place around Europe?

I'm looking at a city break around Europe in a month or two (in addition to a few work trips in the next month), and was trying to eye up which city would give the best combination of the below.

1. A decent user base on SA with the chance to meet lots of young local girls/students (generally 18-25yo) for dates and a couple of PPMs
2. Decent VFM leveraging GBP/local currency purchasing power for PPM
3. Cheap flights and AirBnB, cheap food/booze
4. Mixture of alternative SPs/massage places as a bit of variety
5. Interesting stuff to do alongside shagging

If the idea of a SA holiday/bit of fun alongside your business trip is alien to you, here's how it works. As a bit of context, I'm single guy, young-ish, decent earner, but I guess there's no reason this wouldn't work for most age groups.

• About 4-6 weeks out, start messaging girls who take your fancy. You'll need to send quite a few messages (bit of copying and pasting here and there), but for a big city you'll probably start to get chatting to a few hot young things on a friendly basis. Explain you'll be visiting for work and would like to meet someone local, lots of girls will reply quite positively since it compartmentalises things a bit more, and of course if you visit the same place often for work (even if just annually or something) it pays to make a new friend and be able to meet up several times.
• Once your trip approaches, start arranging specifics like an afternoon/evening to meet up, and set expectations with PPM (I've had some incredible PPMs for as little as 100 euros before). Discuss if you're meeting for drinks/to have dinner/go to an attraction, and whether it's a few hours or overnight etc., etc.
• Line up a few dates for each day/night you're there and free, but always be prepared for plans to change.

If this all sounds like a lot of work and quite different to just punting in an FKK or something, that's because it is. It's very much a dating holiday/vibe rather than just a punting kinda thing, but god when it works it's so worth it. Assuming I'm not the only member of this forum to do something similar so hoping this thread can maybe help in sharing knowledge.

Current Best Seeking Cities in Europe

In my experience, London is probably one of the best cities in the world for Seeking currently, but obviously with that comes higher PPM allowances/expectations, and well, just being a smaller fish in a bigger pond. However, the other top three I think are probably...

1. Lisbon - great, bit cheaper, but slightly smaller user base
2. Berlin - bit cheaper than London but not much
3. Paris - essentially the same as London but you just do everything in French

Current plan is to explore Bucharest, which seems to have a very high user base and would tick the other requirements above, but I'm wondering if fellow UKP members might have insight to share?

Perhaps useful contributions could be sharing any experiences of Seeking in other cities, with rough PPM amounts and other tips?

If foreign girls are anything like as flakey as UK ones...the idea of planning a trip around SA seems pretty high risk to me. If you're there anyway and they can meet you that night or the next...awesome...but planning even more than a week out IMO produces high failure rates with the inevitable last min cancelations. I find London is generally better for avoiding this...maybe because there's so many more girls. But when you get outside the largest cities where the girls out-number the guys..and it flips the other way round...you can expect very high cancelations or worse...no show whatsoever.

If shagging is the main purpose..I'd say stick with escorts...unless you are lucky and get someone who speak great English. Otherwise, you're going to have a pretty dry convo outside the bedroom.

[Palace123]

The subscription seems rather high to me. 90 GBP/month, it works if you are able to get relatively cheap longer dates. I was looking into a longer date with a EE agency which quoted 2300Eu for 4 days. Is seeking cheaper than that?

4 days with total stranger?  I'm met some hot but pretty crazy escorts/sugar babies....you sure?

[cim_lover]

I use Google play fir payment.
You buy Google play vouchers from supermarket and just scan code.
Upside there's no trace through bank statements. 
Downside I've not found a discount code so it's coming in at £99

I thought google voucher payment option wasn't vailable anymore

[Palace123]

I was saying 450gbp as more of an estimate for a single meet on a trip. That might be a bit high depending on where, 300gbp if you're lucky/count fewer general costs like hotels and stuff. Total monthly spend on Seeking generally varies. Based on experience in London, it comes and goes, but probably closer to 1-1.5k a month. But it all varies depending on the punter, I guess. Some less, others, a lot more.

All the decent looking girls in London ask for £500ppm....seem standard now. Nautrually some negotiate but many don't as they know other guys pay it and hold out. I'm heading to Vegas next month. Will be interesting to see what they ask for...I'm guessing £500 USD

[royal_male]

All the decent looking girls in London ask for £500ppm....seem standard now. Nautrually some negotiate but many don't as they know other guys pay it and hold out. I'm heading to Vegas next month. Will be interesting to see what they ask for...I'm guessing £500 USD

Please report back.

[Deaconfool]

All the decent looking girls in London ask for £500ppm....seem standard now. Nautrually some negotiate but many don't as they know other guys pay it and hold out. I'm heading to Vegas next month. Will be interesting to see what they ask for...I'm guessing £500 USD

Iv had no problems using them Sept and Oct this Yr

[Palace123]

so far I've been quoted.. 600USD, 1000USD and 500USD . 

[Palace123]

Iv had no problems using them Sept and Oct this Yr

What were you paying?

[Deaconfool]

Google play vouchers from asda .go into Google play and search for seeking app .
Vouchers are easy to scan peel cover that covers the code on voucher and scan with fon. 

[Palace123]

Or pay pal - so quick and easy. But I meant the amount rather than the method?

[Deaconfool]

£99  I wasn't able to use discount code with Google play

[royal_male]

£99  I wasn't able to use discount code with Google play

I think he was referring to the girls, how much do they quote?

[Deaconfool]

I'm not on the mainland so I'm sure prices vary.
Iv been lucky to sniff out a few £100 -£150

But most are looking £300 min to £500 per meet ( not gonna happen)

[Cambridgy]

I think he was referring to the girls, how much do they quote?

There is a massive YMMV aspect with seeking. If you are willing to put the significant amount of time in then you can still find nuggets of gold. No one is going to share the link to their personal Nirvana on a forum, so you have to invest the time.

Bit of a cliché, but many Gen-Z girls (or boys if that’s your thing) have not met a bloke who’d hold a door open for them. There’s some weirdly normal shit that will get a 25yo going like the clappers.

Ignore massively expensive PPM - subscribe for three months - work a bit and you’ll have enough contacts to last 3 or 4 years if you are a decent human.

[Palace123]

I'm not on the mainland so I'm sure prices vary.
Iv been lucky to sniff out a few £100 -£150

But most are looking £300 min to £500 per meet ( not gonna happen)

Seems to be the going rate...I tend to offer £200 for evening, £250 for overnight and £300 for weekend. But in London everything changes...decent looking girl wants 400-500. You can low ball of course but high chance if she does accept its only a placeholder and she will trash the date for a higher paying late comer.

[Toetallydean85]

So I'm a fairly experienced Seeker and is my preferred but not exclusive format, around 70%.

Seeking definitely matches with the upper end of the escort market with a discount if you punt the way I do which is 3-4 hours over a drink or a smoke etc..

Europe is where seeking works best imo in terms of sugar dating but the best times are for sure in South America where it is essentially the independent escort market that can't be fucked to walk the streets.

Istanbul 400 euros for 4 hours with a 9. Ukranians/Russians and staanis aplenty and the locals are simply amazing and much more fun.
Berlin 300-500 with a 8 and then a 7. Independents are a bit too cool and pros are cheap
Frankfurt 300 euros for a cpl of hours with a club girl that didn't fancy it that night to my benefit 8
Amsterdam 400 euros for a 2 hour punt basically with a standard 7 escort but usually younger pro around 24 as a opposed to 29-30 in Frankfurt for the pros.
Barca 500 euros has got me a day and a half with a 19 year spinner 9.5 and 300 was several different dates with students and some pros.
Lisbon 300 euros for a few hours with another student who had me smitten for two weeks.
London is a massive variable for me as I know the lay of the land best and can get a couple of hours for 300 or a 4-5 hours for 500.

I'm 39, fit but unhealthy in other ways. Very vanilla seeker of the upper end of what's available with no real preference to types alove a Ukranian as much as a Colombian as much as a Scouser as much as a Kazakhy on any given day.

I have loads of links to aforementioned cities and also Dubai, Athens, Prague and Medellin.

Next stopovers are gonna be Eastern Europe, Warsaw, Belgrade, Sarajevo, Budapest and maybe Prague again. I'm expecting these prices to be on the lower end and maybe reaching Lisbon levels for v high sex appeal but perhaps not as much other fun but let's see.

Will commit to FR from now on,... time to give back,.and think legacy!

[puntmiester]

I have loads of links to aforementioned cities and also Dubai, Athens, Prague and Medellin.

What do you mean by links? care to share some Athens 'links?'

[Toetallydean85]

Seeking profiles is what I was referring to wrt Athens. I've not punted in Athens but met a now Athens based SB who was phenomenal in Zurich.

[thebadooboy]

I wonder whether SB practices price discrimination, i.e. if you use a VPN and buy it from India, would it cost less?