Why do wgs start barebacking??

[Stealthshagger]

I saw this profile External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only and she has started to bareback. It made me wonder why one would? I don't do it, but I'm not asking why punters do it. From her perspective, why do it? All I could think of, and I'm not saying it is the case here at all, is that they have something so have nothing to lose. What is it I am not understanding or is that it in most cases? I would have thought that a wg offering bareback would lose her business, not bring more in?

[Tjkooker]

ehhhhhhhh MONEY.. Next obvious question please.

[Stealthshagger]

As I said, doesn't it reduce business as opposed to bringing more in? Especially for one at those rates?

[SirFrank]

As above money and business. There's obviously a market for it or they wouldn't do it

[Sailormack]

I personally would question many of the BB profiles.

IME, when you're offered BB it is usually spontaneous or maybe with a regular.

Been offered it a couple of times in parlours over the years but always declined. I'm much happier with a BBBJ, hard shag and a facial or COB to finale and now that I'm getting on a bit, an oil HJ.

Emptying my porridge into a cesspit ain't for me 

[Daffodil]

Complex and multifactorial.

Obviously money is likely to play a part, but some do seem to do it at no/minimal extra cost.

We all judge risk differently. They may think it acceptable.

Too stupid to know better. Ignorance about sexual health can be quite staggering, even amongst groups with much higher IQs than prossies.

Perhaps they have nothing to lose 

And some girls, possibly even a lot, actually get turned on by bareback sex. Quite a lot of civvies I've fucked get off on the idea and beg you for it. It does feel good to cum in a girl, and not just because the sensation is heightened by no condom. There is definitely a large psychological component to it, and I believe that's true for women as well.

[Tjkooker]

No because only a fucking idiot would pay £250 to shag somebody that is not better looking than the average woman working at Tesco. They probably wouldnt believe that she would actually bareback. Just like the £100 for Anal. Bet its as tight as the Dartford Tunnel. Only a mug would pay that.

I was the mug that paid prices like this a few years ago. Never again.

[smiths]

I saw this profile External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only and she has started to bareback. It made me wonder why one would? I don't do it, but I'm not asking why punters do it. From her perspective, why do it? All I could think of, and I'm not saying it is the case here at all, is that they have something so have nothing to lose. What is it I am not understanding or is that it in most cases? I would have thought that a wg offering bareback would lose her business, not bring more in?

I see she says BB is double her normal rate so that at least gives a financial motive as to why she would offer it. Perhaps she has been offered this kind of money by punters before for BB and decided she thinks she will get enough business from future punters interested in BB by now openly advertising she offers it.

On the other hand perhaps she is infected and wants to infect others, thick, doesnt think the risk of getting infected is too high or a mentalist. Who knows.

[Sailormack]

Complex and multifactorial.

Obviously money is likely to play a part, but some do seem to do it at no/minimal extra cost.

We all judge risk differently. They may think it acceptable.

Too stupid to know better. Ignorance about sexual health can be quite staggering, even amongst groups with much higher IQs than prossies.

Perhaps they have nothing to lose 

And some girls, possibly even a lot, actually get turned on by bareback sex. Quite a lot of civvies I've fucked get off on the idea and beg you for it. It does feel good to cum in a girl, and not just because the sensation is heightened by no condom. There is definitely a large psychological component to it, and I believe that's true for women as well.

Of course many civvie women love BB sex, especially if you are a high earning dude.

Those lifetime child support payments introduce her into a life of luxury that she would not usually enjoy, even more so if you walk her down the aisle afterwards.

If you're solid earner get the vasectomy early, put some batter on ice just in case you get broody.

BB is for mugs in more ways than one.

Listen to the sailor

[smiths]

As I said, doesn't it reduce business as opposed to bringing more in? Especially for one at those rates?

No one but the WG knows the definite answer to that.

[vorian]

Complex and multifactorial.

Obviously money is likely to play a part, but some do seem to do it at no/minimal extra cost.

We all judge risk differently. They may think it acceptable.

Too stupid to know better. Ignorance about sexual health can be quite staggering, even amongst groups with much higher IQs than prossies.

Perhaps they have nothing to lose 

And some girls, possibly even a lot, actually get turned on by bareback sex. Quite a lot of civvies I've fucked get off on the idea and beg you for it. It does feel good to cum in a girl, and not just because the sensation is heightened by no condom. There is definitely a large psychological component to it, and I believe that's true for women as well.

I agree that just about covers it all.

[smiths]

I personally would question many of the BB profiles.

IME, when you're offered BB it is usually spontaneous or maybe with a regular.

Been offered it a couple of times in parlours over the years but always declined. I'm much happier with a BBBJ, hard shag and a facial or COB to finale and now that I'm getting on a bit, an oil HJ.

Emptying my porridge into a cesspit ain't for me 

I would question many of them to but in this case in her profile text she specifically says BB is double her normal rate, so thats a different scenario to many BB profiles that i see.

[Sailormack]

I would question many of them to but in this case in her profile text she specifically says BB is double her normal rate, so thats a different scenario to many BB profiles that i see.

Agreed.

The cynic in me would say that she's infected, wants to earn as much a possible and doesn't give a fuck about her clients.

Of course I maybe wrong she may well tried BB and found she loved it so much thats she would offer it to all and sundry.

The double fee is probably a coincidence 

[xsw21]

I reckon she thinks that anyone who can afford £500 for the hour, bareback, would be an upper class high earner and most likely cleaner than the regular chav on the street. I’m only guessing here…

[vorian]

I reckon she thinks that anyone who can afford £500 for the hour, bareback, would be an upper class high earner and most likely cleaner than the regular chav on the street. I’m only guessing here…

I suspect she is an idiot.

[smiths]

I suspect she is an idiot.

I KNOW she is an idiot if she really does offer BB.

[xsw21]

I suspect she is an idiot.

I think we all agree on that one….

Bareback’s for relationships, not hos!

[vorian]

I think we all agree on that one….

Bareback’s for relationships, not hos!

Maybe we could get that printed on a T-shirt.   

[xsw21]

And hats, key chains, bumper stickers….

[Stealthshagger]

Or printed on condoms.

[vorian]

And hats, key chains, bumper stickers….

Dragons Den it is then.

I'm in.

[jawill]

Probably been diagnosed hiv positive and couldn't give a shit about giving it to someone else now out of anger. After all, why else would someone offer bb sex in this day and age? Unless you have nothing to loose of course......

[Timo]

With bb prossies fall into 4 categories:
1/ Ones who openly offer bb
2/ Ones who say no bb and mean no bb.
3/ Ones who say no bb but will do it for more money.
4/ Ones who dont mention bb but will do it for more money.

The prossies who fall into categories 3 & 4 can then get the bb and none bb punters and corner both markets.

A good way of telling if a prossie does do bb is to look at the punters she has seen. It's not fool proof, but it does give you a clue.

[cjkanye02]

I'm not interested in BB at all but I have had 2 hookers offer it I think with no fee and a few civvy girls who have actually pressured me - one night stands or very early on in relationship if they are on the pill.

I find it weird that women seem to desire it as the image is that it's a man's thing.

In all circumstances I've declined as it's way too risky for me.

[ulander]

I agree she's an idiot.  And not just because she advertises bareback.  Look at the pics in her gallery.  Two of them show her pre-boob job.  Ok, she's wearing a bra, but it's obvious that she had beautiful boobs.  Only an idiot would mess them about as she has done.

[mattylondon]

Complex and multifactorial.

Obviously money is likely to play a part, but some do seem to do it at no/minimal extra cost.

We all judge risk differently. They may think it acceptable.

Too stupid to know better. Ignorance about sexual health can be quite staggering, even amongst groups with much higher IQs than prossies.

Perhaps they have nothing to lose 

And some girls, possibly even a lot, actually get turned on by bareback sex. Quite a lot of civvies I've fucked get off on the idea and beg you for it. It does feel good to cum in a girl, and not just because the sensation is heightened by no condom. There is definitely a large psychological component to it, and I believe that's true for women as well.

Let's see.

Enjoyment. Response to large customer demand. A different Sliding scale of perceived risk. And yes, perhaps a minority have nothing to lose and would be quite happy to infect a punter or simply don't care. I stress that I don't think this is the norm.

I have noticed a direct correlation between the fatter and uglier a prossie is, with the greater willingness to openly offer bareback. Stands to reason that your average Joe prefers to punt a slimmer and fit women. Many of these women realise this, so feel the need to offer a service which differentiates them, otherwise they'd receive little or no business. This tacit recognition is also reflected in the generally lower rates they offer.

Of course, there are dozens more who secretly offer that particular service. 

[sumofallparts]

Hey Matty - long time no hear, good to see you back

Good post.

From my experience, I would say about a third to half of all WG's who say they won't do BB, offer it when you are getting down to business, either for more £££ or simply because they like it, don't care or assume the punter wants it.

I have had to say no thanks so many times and found it completely killed the mood, as they have taken it as some kind of rejection.

Romanians always offer it for more money. I try to avoid Romanians completely unless a very good reason not to.

[punk]

As I said, doesn't it reduce business as opposed to bringing more in? Especially for one at those rates?

nop there is a big market for bareback.

[raja]

I saw this profile External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only and she has started to bareback. It made me wonder why one would? I don't do it, but I'm not asking why punters do it. From her perspective, why do it? All I could think of, and I'm not saying it is the case here at all, is that they have something so have nothing to lose. What is it I am not understanding or is that it in most cases? I would have thought that a wg offering bareback would lose her business, not bring more in?

Pass on HIV?

[punk]

Pass on HIV?

must be one of the major causes of?

[akauya]

I'm surprised the worst adjective used for this prossie on this thread so far is 'idiot'. When I started reading the thread I was expecting a deluge of 'long established members' to start frothing at the mouth and shouting barebacking skank! Then I realised the prossie in question is English.... ahhh of course as long as she is English she couldn't possibly be a barebacking skank  she only and idiot 

[punk]

I'm surprised the worst adjective used for this prossie on this thread so far is 'idiot'. When I started reading the thread I was expecting a deluge of 'long established members' to start frothing at the mouth and shouting barebacking skank! Then I realised the prossie in question is English.... ahhh of course as long as she is English she couldn't possibly be a barebacking skank  she only and idiot 

she a skanky whore

[akauya]

she a skanky whore

Now that's better

[punk]

Now that's better

   no problem saying that,its sad that there is a market out there for it,sad but true.

[TheDoctor]

I suspect she is an idiot.

She's a serial RB bidder in London. One of the guys on here (no longer active) who always did outcalls like me warned me about her months ago, saying she is a total fruit loop and utterly unstable. Some of her bids were tempting but forewarned is forearmed and I now thank fuck I never did with her.

IIRC One RB of mine was for something like £250 for 2 hours and she replied 'Oh ok I guess I will do it for that but couldn't you find another £100 for me?'. I didn't respond.

[punk]

She's a serial RB bidder in London. One of the guys on here (no longer active) who always did outcalls like me warned me about her months ago, saying she is a total fruit loop and utterly unstable. Some of her bids were tempting but forewarned is forearmed and I now thank fuck I never did with her.

IIRC One RB of mine was for something like £250 for 2 hours and she replied 'Oh ok I guess I will do it for that but couldn't you find another £100 for me?'. I didn't respond.

proves one thing a lot of bb er's must be mental WG or punter.

[ohfook1t]

maybe she caught something nasty and WANTS to pass it on

[akauya]

maybe she caught something nasty and WANTS to pass it on

Stupidity? 

[munterhunter]

This is one of those questions to which there is no simple answer.

In this day and age it's a foolish and irresponsible activity.

There's obviously a demand for it, some women clearly do it for extra money, some must enjoy it because they offer it at no extra cost, some offer it in extreme circumstances like BB gangbangs

I have been offered it on a handful of occasions in 30+ years punting only ONCE was extra money mentioned but for me the risks far outweigh the benefits.

[markf23]

The honest answer for most is that it gives them more work (a lot more work) but for some it is because they prefer it.  I know a lot of people on here seem critical of it but the market for it is huge.

I will tell you how I know, as friend of mine has been an escort on and off adultwork for about 3 years and I know she prefers bareback (her own personal preference), she has had bareback profiles and protected profiles.  Currently she only has a bareback profile but when she worked last year she has both with slightly different photos in it (all of her but with different hair colour)  She would get 3 / 4 times more work from the bareback profile if not more... the demand for it is huge....

Now lots of the guys who emailed her would often ask if it was ok for her not to leave feedback because bareback was their little secret vice.

Just thought I would share that.....

Mark

[raja]

The honest answer for most is that it gives them more work (a lot more work) but for some it is because they prefer it.  I know a lot of people on here seem critical of it but the market for it is huge.

I will tell you how I know, as friend of mine has been an escort on and off adultwork for about 3 years and I know she prefers bareback (her own personal preference), she has had bareback profiles and protected profiles.  Currently she only has a bareback profile but when she worked last year she has both with slightly different photos in it (all of her but with different hair colour)  She would get 3 / 4 times more work from the bareback profile if not more... the demand for it is huge....

Now lots of the guys who emailed her would often ask if it was ok for her not to leave feedback because bareback was their little secret vice.

Just thought I would share that.....

Mark

Does she let them cum inside her?

[overhead]

The honest answer for most is that it gives them more work (a lot more work) but for some it is because they prefer it.  I know a lot of people on here seem critical of it but the market for it is huge.

I will tell you how I know, as friend of mine has been an escort on and off adultwork for about 3 years and I know she prefers bareback (her own personal preference), she has had bareback profiles and protected profiles.  Currently she only has a bareback profile but when she worked last year she has both with slightly different photos in it (all of her but with different hair colour)  She would get 3 / 4 times more work from the bareback profile if not more... the demand for it is huge....

Now lots of the guys who emailed her would often ask if it was ok for her not to leave feedback because bareback was their little secret vice.

Just thought I would share that.....

Mark

First post eh!

Having said that, what you say is not too far off the conclusions I've come to. I think there is a backwater of it that we very occasionally stumble on. One day a girl proposed it to me and she was so casual and jolly about it, it was like she does it all the time - really made me stop and think that did. And when you read about girls seeing a dozen or more a day, that's not normal to have that level of demand. There's got to be something like that behind it.

I'd like to know what the true infection rates are. Not what people think they are, or what they'd like to think they are, but the reality. (I have a suspicion that certain things are rarer than you'd expect, but that others are rife)

[markf23]

Yes she does let guys cum in her and she has never caught anything in the 3 years of escorting, not even a cold lol !!

And I know myself I pay for it at least twice a week and have been punting for 20 years and have never caught anything either.

[overhead]

Yes she does let guys cum in her and she has never caught anything in the 3 years of escorting, not even a cold lol !!

And I know myself I pay for it at least twice a week and have been punting for 20 years and have never caught anything either.

Oh come on now. I can't believe there's anyone who hasn't had a cold in three years.

I won't dispute what you're saying, but I am sceptical. Whoever you're seeing must have a very tight group of regulars, or you are very lucky, or more likely both. I happen to know that e.g. the clamydia rates have gone through the roof recently, and there are some other very nasty things lurking around and on the increase.

[markf23]

Yes there is some regular girls I see but I just see agency girls and adultwork girls, I will see prob 2 agency girls a month and 5 or 6 adultwork girls a month.

[vorian]

Yes she does let guys cum in her and she has never caught anything in the 3 years of escorting, not even a cold lol !!

And I know myself I pay for it at least twice a week and have been punting for 20 years and have never caught anything either.

Any chance of you sharing this WG profile, got a strange feeling I know what the answers going to be

[markf23]

I will ask her if I can

[overhead]

Yes there is some regular girls I see but I just see agency girls and adultwork girls, I will see prob 2 agency girls a month and 5 or 6 adultwork girls a month.

Go steady with your claims. My guess is none of the old hands on here will believe that you've done 20 years of that with no issue..

If I were you I'd used to the mood of this forum before you spout off too much with these credibility stretching statements, otherwise you'll be headed for the exit before you know it.

[Taggart]

Complex and multifactorial.

Agreed. That's women. Period. (not that kind!)

It makes me smile how some WGs rant on about 'dont ask for BB' threatening blocking you, then in their gallery have shots of them, presumably with partner, indulging in the very same practice.  Confusing doesnt come close.

Then we have the suicide hookers who openly advertise BB is available, made worse by statement like 'if you look clean....'  not to mention the cumsluts that offer sloppy second, thirds and more.  What bollocks. They are a disgrace to the profession. What sort of sick f****r want another blokes spunk around his bell end?  Yeeeeewww.

And then we have another group where during sex, the girl straddles you, grins, wiggles and works your erect cock onto he pussy lips, and may or may not exert downward movement. A sort of involuntary BB?

Over the years, I've used a variety of condoms as I'd never risk BB, and have found that with the normal tight pussy, extra thin condoms are as good as BB. 

So why create all this shit and associated health risks?  If blokes avoided all BB providers, they'd soon get the message, but it sure as hell will never happen.

[raja]

Agreed. That's women. Period. (not that kind!)

It makes me smile how some WGs rant on about 'dont ask for BB' threatening blocking you, then in their gallery have shots of them, presumably with partner, indulging in the very same practice.  Confusing doesnt come close.

Then we have the suicide hookers who openly advertise BB is available, made worse by statement like 'if you look clean....'  not to mention the cumsluts that offer sloppy second, thirds and more.  What bollocks. They are a disgrace to the profession. What sort of sick f****r want another blokes spunk around his bell end?  Yeeeeewww.

And then we have another group where during sex, the girl straddles you, grins, wiggles and works your erect cock onto he pussy lips, and may or may not exert downward movement. A sort of involuntary BB?

Over the years, I've used a variety of condoms as I'd never risk BB, and have found that with the normal tight pussy, extra thin condoms are as good as BB. 

So why create all this shit and associated health risks?  If blokes avoided all BB providers, they'd soon get the message, but it sure as hell will never happen.

What is the risk of getting HIV?

I mean if you get HIV, then it is game over...... you cannot have any kids.