Its that thing about extras again.

[Stevelondon]

I know "Extras" topic has been raised a few times. But i wanted to chat about this from another angle....if there is such a thing.

So about a month ago I was just flipping through the AW profiles. Saw a couple of SP's who took my fancy and fired off a text to both. Polite enquiry and just put in the fact I was looking for RO. (I had already noted they provided this on their list of services)
Got messages back (albeit a while later from one of them). Stating RO was extra. In one case £30, making the hours punt £170 and in the other it was an extra of £20 bringing it up to £140.

I checked back on their profiles and neither had written anything about anything being extra cost.
On principal I binned the both of them.

Never thought much about it until today. Thought I would message someone else and lo and behold. I put in the text that I liked RO (Just wanted to make sure it was on offer even though it was on this SP's list of services too)
Got a response,
"Yes honey but thats an extra £40"

Bringing her £150 hourly rate up to £190.

Is it me. Do these bloody girls know I enjoy RO and so think its ok to charge me extra. Or is it simply a case of me mentioning it when I make my initial enquiry and they think to themselves......ahhh.....I can get a few more quid out of this bloke.

I must have messaged loads over the years and can't remember getting three in a row like this before. Once upon a time i would just say GFE and get the reply,
"Yes OK"..........got RO thrown in as it was on their list of things they do....which is why I contacted them in the first place.

I have messaged SP's who do not put RO on their profile and have been met with a polite "No" or a "Yes but I would charge a little extra" or even a "Yes thats Ok, I thought I had listed that service"

I still think its best I still ask the question rather than place a booking and end up being told on arrival that RO is an extra fee.
I would walk in these cases as I think if they list it and DO NOT clearly say its an extra.........its not fair play.

Maybe I am just getting picky in me old age.

[Moby Dick]

Never been asked to pay extra for RO?
Refused once or twice because I had a beard, but generally they want my tongue up their clunge.

[Corus Boy]

I highlighted this one on the Wales Forum;

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£200 per hour and a long, extensive list of extras!

[big-al93]

For me, never paid extra for RO, and usually try to avoid anyone who lists it as an extra, as either they are taking the piss money wise, or don't really like it. Same with kissing, either do it or don't do it. Never worth paying extra for it. Mostly I'd say the same about owo but I have paid on occasion.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

Never been asked to pay extra for RO?

I've been asked a couple of times and been told it wasn't an available service a couple of times but that is in a total of 100+ meets. Never have asked in advance and just assumed that if I want it then it is included in the basic price. 

[petermisc]

At one time, about the only service charged as extra was anal.  Now there is a seemingly ever-increasing list of things that are charged as extra, such as DFK, CIM, RO, etc.  Don't think it wise to just assume such services are included these days.

[PLeisure]

At one time, about the only service charged as extra was anal.  Now there is a seemingly ever-increasing list of things that are charged as extra, such as DFK, CIM, RO, etc.  Don't think it wise to just assume such services are included these days.

Agree. I think it's the WGs' way of bumping up their income whilst trying to look like they're keeping their base rate fairly untouched.
Not a new strategy, but it may have become more popular in the light of dwindling punters/ cost of living concerns, etc.

[Tender.french.kiss]

Extras should be only for 'advanced' things like swallow, anal, WS or fisting. Starting to have extras for much more regular things like kissing, RO, fingering ... is ludicrous
Either you do it or you don't, trying to squeeze more cash from us with this extra nonsense for 'standard' stuff is a big red flag for me. Clear sign that only £££ matters and that service level is not important. No way I want to start having a meet with a girl who has so many extra it's going to be like walking in a minefield and taking all spontaneity out of encounter as you have to analyse your every move and can't just go with the flow.

[petermisc]

Extras should be only for 'advanced' things like swallow, anal, WS or fisting. Starting to have extras for much more regular things like kissing, RO, fingering ... is ludicrous

I suppose it depends on what you regard as 'standard' services.  When I first started punting, pre-internet when most WGs were British, it was rare to find a WG who even allowed kissing, let alone charged extra for it.  Come the Polish influx, and pretty much everything was on the table, with even A often included (as it still is with asian agency girls).  So now in the UK, we tend to regard kissing as pretty much standard fare.  However, there are many places overseas where kissing is routinely charged for, if offered at all.  Similarly for OWO.  If a girl comes to the UK from such a place, she will find it natural to charge.

[Tender.french.kiss]

I suppose it depends on what you regard as 'standard' services. 

Yep, obviously. I tried to list 'my' vision of it but of course it's nowhere near black and white.
Stuff I consider 'standard' might make some vanilla guys uncomfortable and more adventurous punters might find some things like BDSM or else perfectly routine.
Still I believe there will be a relatively wide consensus that as of yet and here in the UK, kissing or RO would be pretty 'standard' while hard sport and fisting would still be fairly 'advanced'

[Moby Dick]

With price increases it has become even more important to read every word on profiles, websites, and check reviews...... and if you ask “does it cost more” then some will obviously say it’s exssssatra babe.
I tend to just list the services I want and ask how much? If I doesn’t match the total price that I see from their profile then I know it will probably be shit punt so won’t bother. No point haggling.

When I started to punt in parlours, it was £40-£50 basic for half an hour and OWO was always an extra £10.  Kissing Prossies was not a thing back then, and it didn’t matter so much if you had a Meh punt at £40.
Then I punted the same WGs who moved to AW and it was inclusive, but I paid more in total then I did in the parlour, plus the prices were weighted to favour one hour visits, circa £130 to £160 per hour.

I think price breaks would be beneficial to the punter, if there was a no frills (no thrills) option at say £120/hr so you could just go pay the basic service, and if in the mood pay extra, or choose to do so for a repeat visit,  but when they are charging £150-200/hr basic with extras on top then I ain’t gunna even bother to test the waters.

I read a review the other day highlighting a profile of a so called “pornstar” who wanted extra for putting on make up.... FFS .... what next, extra for washing / being clean and generally making an effort!

[lamboman]

I'd never pay for RO and once walked with a discount when an SP refused it.
2 years ago I never had to confirm services now I do it all the time,there's too many chancers.

[Moby Dick]

£20 extra to put her make up on:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=350553.0

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kissing- £20
Full glam makeup- £20 extra
watersports giving- £30 extra
facials- £30 extra
Roleplays- £30
filming- £150 extra
anal- £200 extra
ALL EXTRAS ARE AT MY DISCRETION

[petermisc]

£20 extra to put her make up on:
Full glam makeup- £20 extra

Suggest you do a google search on "full glam makeup".  At her hourly rate, £20 seems quite cheap considering how long it will take to apply.

[Moby Dick]

Suggest you do a google search on "full glam makeup".  At her hourly rate, £20 seems quite cheap considering how long it will take to apply.

No thanks, does nothing for me...ugly spotty women wear too much makeup.

[boardyhell]

£20 extra to put her make up on:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=350553.0

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kissing- £20
Full glam makeup- £20 extra
watersports giving- £30 extra
facials- £30 extra
Roleplays- £30
filming- £150 extra
anal- £200 extra
ALL EXTRAS ARE AT MY DISCRETION

I think she forgot to put the extra charge for photoshop on her profile

[JDogg]

Full glam makeup- £20 extra

She’s taking the piss

[lillythesavage]

Have you thought that it maybe because you specifically asked about a single service OP ? Rather than a list/mixture of things and they thought on the hoof, can get a few more quid out of this one .

[contentguy]

Pre internet, when I used to punt in Slough in the 90s, many SPs would routinely charge extra for any requested service.  I’d say that I’d only got the £ that was agreed and they’d include it or I’d walk.

In most cases I’d walk anyway, as it just sets the meet off to a bad footing if you’re haggling.

And SPs hate haggling, I recall a few occasions when I turned up, cash as agreed and was accused of haggling when she’d introduced extras.  Prozzie logic at its best.

I just smile and blacklist those profiles that say “ask me about my extras” 

[Stevelondon]

Have you thought that it maybe because you specifically asked about a single service OP ? Rather than a list/mixture of things and they thought on the hoof, can get a few more quid out of this one .

That’s exactly what I thought.
Which is, incidentally, why I posted what I did.

Come on now Lilly. Keep up won’t you. 😂😂😂

[Adoniron]

I've never paid extra for it and never would. Equally I've never asked about it in advance either.

[PaulRuff]

I've never paid extra for it and never would. Equally I've never asked about it in advance either.

+1.

Never met a WG who doesn't enjoy having their clit & pussy licked, sucked & fingered once they're warmed up nicely...

[lillythesavage]

That’s exactly what I thought.
Which is, incidentally, why I posted what I did.

Come on now Lilly. Keep up won’t you. 😂😂😂

 , I am with the others, except maybe anal, if profile mentions extras, move on, if they are mentioned by phone, same, no matter what.

I am of the opinion it is something they really do not want to do, therefore not worth the extra 

It is only punters accepting it, and posting reviews for others to read, that has fed the growth, nothing worse than mid flow money demands.

To me, discussing services before a punt is a bone killer, go with the flow, good or bad, once knowing there are no extras and they can at least speak English, translate is an even bigger bone killer.

[big-al93]

+1.

Never met a WG who doesn't enjoy having their clit & pussy licked, sucked & fingered once they're warmed up nicely...

Quite a lot are not keen on being fingered, I always ask if they like it. As my hands are always clean and fingernails trimmed about 75% are fine with it.

[weldermike]

I’ve would of texted, thinking of booking you,  but was making sure RO was part of the £70 for 30 minutes service.
Thanks Mike.

[PumpDump]

I would never volunteer I enjoy RO, you are just inviting them to charge extra by telling them this. Just wait until you are with the girl, get her warmed up (work on her boobs, nipples, neck, whatever it takes) then go down on her. Very few refuse in my experience.

[Hobbit]

£20 extra to put her make up on:

That is taking the piss. I recently asked a girl if she can put some makeup on for our meet, and she got pissed off and said "why, do you think I'm ugly?" I decided not to see her as I don't see women with emotional issues. It was just a simple request.

[Moby Dick]

That is taking the piss. I recently asked a girl if she can put some makeup on for our meet, and she got pissed off and said "why, do you think I'm ugly?" I decided not to see her as I don't see women with emotional issues. It was just a simple request.

I get that.
At least you didn’t ask her to wear some perfume.

All girls smell right? - that’s why they have to wear so much perfume.

[Moby Dick]

I would never volunteer I enjoy RO, you are just inviting them to charge extra by telling them this. Just wait until you are with the girl, get her warmed up (work on her boobs, nipples, neck, whatever it takes) then go down on her. Very few refuse in my experience.

Is that right pumpdump?
More to you than your name.

[B4bcock]

All girls smell right?

Apparently they smell the stench of boys.  (So I was once told!)

[Moby Dick]

Apparently they smell the stench of boys.  (So I was once told!)

So why do women spend more trying to smell “nice” ?

[PumpDump]

Is that right pumpdump?
More to you than your name.

Haha yes, depends on my mood!

[SpaceRaiderDave]

I would never volunteer I enjoy RO, you are just inviting them to charge extra by telling them this. Just wait until you are with the girl, get her warmed up (work on her boobs, nipples, neck, whatever it takes) then go down on her. Very few refuse in my experience.

I agree with this approach. In addition to the physical foreplay given it always helps if you are polite, have good hygene et etc

[Punterperson1971]

One of the regulars I see(she’s reviewed heavily on here) offers cim with no extras even in a 15 minute session but at one point she was offering £50 extra for a facial I would imagine that’s because of doing her make up which is fair enough as i suppose it takes time to re do it and it be even worse if she had a few punters asking for a facial each day.

[EvilS]

Honestly i'm sick of sending enquiry texts off and getting this sort of reply.

£140 is the upper end of the price scale for an hour round here as it is and then the extras it soon adds up.

Some of the extras dont even make sense, like you're gonna suck me off without a rubber for £30 and then you want another £50 to dump it in your mouth, they should go together.

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[alabama1]

Honestly i'm sick of sending enquiry texts off and getting this sort of reply.

£140 is the upper end of the price scale for an hour round here as it is and then the extras it soon adds up.

Some of the extras dont even make sense, like you're gonna suck me off without a rubber for £30 and then you want another £50 to dump it in your mouth, they should go together.

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You are wrong to assume that an SP should do CIM merely for accepting OWO. You are showing your punting inexperience mate.

[EvilS]

But it doesen't make sense, shes gonna do OW but then if I pay £50 shes gonna let me CIM

[Moby Dick]

Some of the extras dont even make sense, like you're gonna suck me off without a rubber for £30 and then you want another £50 to dump it in your mouth, they should go together.

Why?
If they did she would charge £80.
What if you just want OWO and no CIM?
I prefer to see my tadpoles fly over her tits n face.

I agree the prices are way too much, so just don’t pay.
Parlours in my area typically charge £10 for OWO, and an extra £20 for CIM, so £30 if that’s what you want to do, but costs £10 total for OWO and cum on tits.

[alabama1]

But it doesen't make sense, shes gonna do OW but then if I pay £50 shes gonna let me CIM

Can't you see that there is a risk involved with OWO and CIM, as opposed to OW ? That is why it's more expensive. 

[Stevelondon]

Ok I shall respond to some of the posts on track. Later posts are on about a different subject.
I’ve been round the block a few times so have a fair idea of how the punting game works.

There are some SP’s I don’t need to ask if RO is an ok. For all kinds of reasons. Reviews being read, good enough info being given on profiles etc.
An instance.
I didn’t feel the need to message Jamiee asking about RO or indeed when I went to see Cara (Guildford)

I am on about two or three girls I simply fancied the look of on AW. Not much info on profiles, endless list of services offered which to me just suggests laziness on their part (tick everything) ………. Plus… no mention in the adverts of any extras.

So….. as I am a bloke who enjoys RO (with the right SP) I felt the need to clarify before the meet that RO is an ok and at no extra charge.

Im not going too (as someone suggests) warm the girl up so she will want and bloody need her fanny licked. Why should I for fucks sake. If I am the sixth or seventh bloke that day and she ain’t hot enough by then….. 😂

I can’t be arsed to waste my time getting there and then being told RO is extra.
As I said. On principle I wouldn’t pay the extra and thus….    Would walk as it is something I want and would feel if I didn’t pay up, then the punt would not be enjoyable enough for me.


I shall say it again. With some SP’s I would not need to ask the question.

[Moby Dick]

Ok I shall respond to some of the posts on track. Later posts are on about a different subject.

 

I thought this thread being titled “It’s that thing about extras again” was about extras.
Would you like a helper to change the title to specifically cover RO and should you bring cost up in the initial comms?

Maybe I am just getting picky in me old age.

Me thinks you are beyond maybe.   

[Stevelondon]

I thought this thread being titled “It’s that thing about extras again” was about extras.
Would you like a helper to change the title to specifically cover RO and should you bring cost up in the initial comms?
Me thinks you are beyond maybe.   

The last couple of posts were more concerned with risks involved equating to cost etc. So no thanks on the offer of help.

But you are correct about me being beyond beyond 

[shagmore]

never been charged for RO, and would not pay. Some of these WGs profiles do make for good fictional reading

[JonasG]

Out of principle I would never pay extra for RO or DFK.

Frankly ridiculous for both to be extra from any WG.