My Interview with Taboo Room

[Jeffers77]

You need to understand coercion, it’s not that complicated !

Have you read Sam's case?

[RedKettle]

We should be open to redemption and I do believe that people who have done very bad things can be truly sorry and earn back some level of respect from the community and themselves. I cannot judge whether that will be the case for Sam but I wish him all the best for the journey.

However I do not believe this site should be part of that journey. We have enough of a reputational issue without knowingly allowing a convicted trafficker on here. In addition we are providing temptation and information about girls to him. You do not give a newly dry alcoholic a job in an off licence. Obviously not my decision but if it were I would ban him.

[RedKettle]

Maybe we should all watch it before commenting, but I take your point about earning further from the crime, that should not be allowed to happen.

Many on this site though are happy to use agencies, read pay pimps, and have no idea how or why the ended up on the books and really do not care, as long as the pimp makes sure she is there at the arranged time.

We only have the OP,s word that he is no longer involved, lets be honest there have been and maybe still are, pimps using this site for gain, we all read into things in different ways and make of the OP,s confessions what we will.

A leopard can change spots, but not if they are planning to make future money from the crime, that OP is one confession too far and makes your confessions here look part of the plan.   

I did watch it before commenting.

[RedKettle]

Have you read Sam's case?

He clearly states that some of the girls were under control of others.

[Lou2019]

Have you read Sam's case?

Have you watched the video?

[Jeffers77]

He clearly states that some of the girls were under control of others.

The operative word being "others" yet some accuse him of doing so.

Have you watched the video?

Where in the video does it suggest he was coercing..?

[Lou2019]

The operative word being "others" yet some accuse him of doing so.

Awww bless are you one of the punters that went to support him

[Jeffers77]

Awww bless are you one of the punters that went to support him

Oh mate.
Making more things up I see?

[Lou2019]

Oh mate.
Making more things up I see?

I asked you that ? I’m not making anything up you fool 

[scutty brown]

Comes across as an example of self-justification and self-deception.

[contentguy]

I asked you that ? I’m not making anything up you fool 

Do you think you’re being harsh, it’s not like he jumped in defending him against the trafficking ‘allegation’.

Or did he?

Sorry but where in the video does it suggest Sam is a trafficker? I see no such insinuation.

[daviemac]

The operative word being "others" yet some accuse him of doing so.

Where in the video does it suggest he was coercing..?

The main man only got 6 years and this scum 5 years so his sentence wasn't that much lower. However you keep defending the indefensible.

BTW I've seen first hand how devious these cunts are, by day all nicey-nicey family men by night sexual abusers. They have a different persona for different aspects of their lives.

[RedKettle]

The operative word being "others" yet some accuse him of doing so.

Where in the video does it suggest he was coercing..?

OMG do you really not get it??  He was working together with others who he knew were controlling the women.  In addition he knew that they had to pay back considerable sums of money at 100% interest.  He may not have been the person using threats but he was part of the team doing it.

However even if I have misunderstood and my analysis is wrong a UK court found him guilty and sentenced him to 5 years.  What do you need to see the fucking obvious???

You are defending his behaviour more than he is - time for a look in the mirror perhaps?

[scutty brown]

The operative word being "others" yet some accuse him of doing so.

Where in the video does it suggest he was coercing..?

If he was touting girls who were under control then he was equally responsible. He was the enabler who provided the market the girls were controlled in

[MissWolf]

OMG do you really not get it??  He was working together with others who he knew were controlling the women.  In addition he knew that they had to pay back considerable sums of money at 100% interest.  He may not have been the person using threats but he was part of the team doing it.

However even if I have misunderstood and my analysis is wrong a UK court found him guilty and sentenced him to 5 years.  What do you need to see the fucking obvious???

You are defending his behaviour more than he is - time for a look in the mirror perhaps?

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[Lou2019]

Do you think you’re being harsh, it’s not like he jumped in defending him against the trafficking ‘allegation’.

Or did he?

Keep up FFS

[Lou2019]

OMG do you really not get it??  He was working together with others who he knew were controlling the women.  In addition he knew that they had to pay back considerable sums of money at 100% interest.  He may not have been the person using threats but he was part of the team doing it.

However even if I have misunderstood and my analysis is wrong a UK court found him guilty and sentenced him to 5 years.  What do you need to see the fucking obvious???

You are defending his behaviour more than he is - time for a look in the mirror perhaps?

  

I don’t get what some are not understanding 

[RedKettle]

Keep up FFS

I think he was being sarcastic!! See his earlier post, he is very much against.

[contentguy]

Keep up FFS

Read the quote in my post after ‘or did he’.

He was supporting the trafficker as not being a trafficker when the trafficker had already said he’d been convicted for trafficking.

Back at ya hun 

[Kev40ish]

I think this says it all..
Southwark Crown Court heard how the victims, all female or transgender, were recruited in their native Thailand by the organised gang before being brought into this country, where their phones and official papers were confiscated.
They were taken to buildings in Kensington and Chelsea or Westminster and made to work long hours, handing over a large amount of their earnings.

The victims, who spoke little or no English, were forced to become prostitutes, in some cases providing unprotected sex to increase their popularity on seedy websites, the court heard.

When they complained, the victims were threatened by the gang with being exposed to the authorities as illegal immigrants.

[Lou2019]

Read the quote in my post after ‘or did he’.

He was supporting the trafficker as not being a trafficker when the trafficker had already said he’d been convicted for trafficking.

Back at ya hun 

Just stick to the facts

[RAJEC]

Where is this video lol?

[Lou2019]

I think this says it all..
Southwark Crown Court heard how the victims, all female or transgender, were recruited in their native Thailand by the organised gang before being brought into this country, where their phones and official papers were confiscated.
They were taken to buildings in Kensington and Chelsea or Westminster and made to work long hours, handing over a large amount of their earnings.

The victims, who spoke little or no English, were forced to become prostitutes, in some cases providing unprotected sex to increase their popularity on seedy websites, the court heard.

When they complained, the victims were threatened by the gang with being exposed to the authorities as illegal immigrants.

So all you cunts who are supporting and praising him etc …………

[RedKettle]

Where is this video lol?

I found it in 5 seconds and my IT skills are pretty dam poor!!

[contentguy]

Just stick to the facts

You’re missing the point.
He was disputing that the OP was a trafficker when the OP had admitted being convicted.

You said:

Awww bless are you one of the punters that went to support him

I posted sarcastically that you were being harsh, then evidenced that he was supporting him.

[Lou2019]

You’re missing the point.
He was disputing that the OP was a trafficker when the OP had admitted being convicted.

You said:
I posted sarcastically that you were being harsh, then evidenced that he was supporting him.

I’ve lost interest in your posts sorry

[GingerNuts]

I did not traffic anyone directly, but yes I was done for conspiracy to traffic as the known Thai WGs were on my website as well as others (benefiting me). It was like 8 years ago and not much has changed, Most recent relationship 2019 - 2020 and still remain friends with current London Escorts agency and independent. I think I know what I am talking about, not to mention doing  and writing a booking / planned media appearances

I wonder if this cunt is using his meetings, reviews and UKP as part of his further research so he can make more money from his activities.

[Lou2019]

I wonder if this cunt is using his meetings, reviews and UKP as part of his further research so he can make more money from his activities.

Of course he is

[contentguy]

I’ve lost interest in your posts sorry

Without reading them, I’ve not disagreed with anything you’ve said.

[shed]

This was an "unforgivable" crime. Sam Omar should be banned . Human trafficking and exploitation has been discussed on here before with an overwhelming disgust at individual and groups involvement. Not my decision but ban him. No contest.

[lillythesavage]

I actually got one of the lowest sentences for the offence but you don't research facts and just read the headline

TBF you created the headline by dumping a new thread with video without any explanation of context, or your side of the story and that makes it look like attention seeking for whatever you have to gain from it, very different from how you handled the discussion before, or you would not still be here.

You have admitted your part in the crimes you were convicted of, we only have your word you were not further involved in crimes you could not be convicted of, that part we will never know.

I can understand the need for redemption and admitting your crime is part of it, you did that on the thread discussion, this thread, the more I think about it, is coming across as wanting notoriety and testing the waters for books or TV etc. 

[scutty brown]

from the Evening Standard

All three were handed Slavery and Trafficking Prevention Orders.

I would suggest that he's breaching the order through his membership of this site.
Certainly his reviews - especially those of Asian women - indicate a deliberate disregard for the order. He shouldn't be going anywhere near a service provider

[Lou2019]

I guess the worry now is though who has booked an
SPs on the recommendation of him? Who will have the worry and guilt that they may have seen somebody trafficked because of a liar

[SamOmar]

from the Evening Standard

I would suggest that he's breaching the order through his membership of this site.
Certainly his reviews - especially those of Asian women - indicate a deliberate disregard for the order. He shouldn't be going anywhere near a service provider

Your suggestion is wrong, sorry but you have an unhealthy obsession of always reading a basic article from time to time and assuming your a protectorate / expert on the matter.

[MissWolf]

from the Evening Standard

I would suggest that he's breaching the order through his membership of this site.
Certainly his reviews - especially those of Asian women - indicate a deliberate disregard for the order. He shouldn't be going anywhere near a service provider

I very rarely agree with you Mr Brown but on this one I do 100%

[Strawberry]

I'm agog the OP just waltzes on coolly here and in the interview he is promoting, as if nothing is wrong.

[Fuzzyduck]

It's disappointing that there's petty bickering between members who are on the same page about this topic.

I've not seen the video nor have I read the case but what strikes me is that I've not seen one iota of remorse from OP. No sense of how his actions have deeply affected other human beings. All this video catharticism is about him trying to justify his exploitative behaviour. Quite frankly, fuck him. How dare he come on here trying to justify his actions. He should go find these women, get on his knees, beg forgiveness and try to make right by them somehow. Then I might listen. Until then, fuck off cunt. If I get a ban for that, then so be it.

[SamOmar]

It's disappointing that there's petty bickering between members who are on the same page about this topic.

I've not seen the video nor have I read the case but what strikes me is that I've not seen one iota of remorse from OP. No sense of how his actions have deeply affected other human beings. All this video catharticism is about him trying to justify his exploitative behaviour. Quite frankly, fuck him. How dare he come on here trying to justify his actions. He should go find these women, get on his knees, beg forgiveness and try to make right by them somehow. Then I might listen. Until then, fuck off cunt. If I get a ban for that, then so be it.

The purpose of the interview is to raise awareness not beg for forgiveness, that is the aim of the channel. It is to discuss topics that that are normally taboo. It's the first of many not everything and anything can be explained in 20 odd minutes

[SamOmar]

I guess the worry now is though who has booked an
SPs on the recommendation of him? Who will have the worry and guilt that they may have seen somebody trafficked because of a liar

Yes because I have been the first reviewer of many service providers , I rarely have been the first

[SamOmar]

This was an "unforgivable" crime. Sam Omar should be banned . Human trafficking and exploitation has been discussed on here before with an overwhelming disgust at individual and groups involvement. Not my decision but ban him. No contest.

I don't mind being banned, it's no big deal. Gives me more time to be productive. But my post to the mod was I'm not sure what rule I have broken or if there has been an actual verified complaint of me.

[KatieEdinburgh]

I don't mind being banned, it's no big deal. Gives me more time to be productive. But my post to the mod was I'm not sure what rule I have broken or if there has been an actual verified complaint of me.

If being convicted for sex trafficking and controlling for gain isn’t already against the sites rules then it should be! Perhaps it’s not explicitly written out because to most people it’s that obvious and doesn’t need to be said? It’s worrying how calm you are about it all, are you even sorry about it?

If a SP gets a criminal record you guys never will never let them live it down and it’s reason to post full names if they’ve got a record, but yet it’s okay to have a trafficking conviction and you happily get to keep your UKP membership. Huh? It’s so hypocritical that it’s hard to believe…!

   

[KatieEdinburgh]

Also makes me feel sick that these girls have to pay off £35000 to their traffickers just for their travel to the UK. In 3 months!! that’s actually insane and the amount of bookings I know they’d have to work to pay it off

Absolutely mad amounts of money. My heart breaks for them really. I need to leave this thread before it ruins my day. Sometimes I forget how lucky I am I guess :’(

[MissWolf]

The purpose of the interview is to raise awareness not beg for forgiveness, that is the aim of the channel. It is to discuss topics that that are normally taboo. It's the first of many not everything and anything can be explained in 20 odd minutes

So self promotion for future ventures then

[victor989]

The OP is repulsive. It is degenerate punters like him that give respectable punters a bad name.

[scutty brown]

External Link/Members Only

A Crouch End man faces jail for his role in a sex slave ring which saw women and ‘ladyboys’ trafficked into the UK.

Rashid Ahmed, 68, took regular trips to Thailand to find new sex workers, and rented properties in London to be used as brothels.

Victims were told they had a £32,000 debt to repay.

Ahmed, of Hermiston Avenue, was found guilty of two charges of conspiracy to traffic persons within the UK for the purposes of sexual exploitation, and one of controlling prostitution for gain.

He worked alongside madam Nattarn Budcha, 35, and fixer Hammal Amiri, 27.

Budcha ran escort agency Asian Exclusive, which advertised ‘high class’ prostitutes, while Amiri ran the website.

Amiri was found guilty of the same charges as Ahmed, while Budcha - charged with the same offences - was cleared of one count of conspiring to traffic people

Jurors failed to reach a verdict on the second count of the same charge.

Some victims knew they would be working as prostitutes, but others were told they would be working as masseuses and cleaners, Southwark Crown Court heard.

When they reached the UK, victims had pictures taken for the gang’s website.

They had to be available 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and would see up to 15 clients a day.

One told jurors she shared a flat with a “ladyboy” who would “take drugs and behave a bit weirdly”.

Another said she was trafficked into the country after working in a karaoke show in Thailand.

She was told she had to pay off £33,000 for being brought to the UK.

A third witness said she turned to sex work when a relationship failed.

Budcha, of Porter Street, Marylebone, and Amiri, of no fixed address, will be sentenced at a later date.

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A Crouch End trafficker who brought Thai women and ‘ladyboys’ into the UK and forced them into sexual slavery has been jailed for six years.

Rashid Ahmed, 68, of Hermiston Avenue, Crouch End, took regular trips to Thailand to find sex workers and rented properties to be used as brothels.

He was part of a gang with Thai madam Nattarn Budcha, 35, of Porter Street, Marylebone, and fixer Hammal Amiri, 27, of no fixed abode, who coaxed the women to the UK with the promise of jobs.

Some victims were told they would be working as masseuses and cleaners, Southwark Crown Court heard.

They would then be locked into an enormous debt bond to the traffickers.

Budcha ran escort agency Asian Exclusive that advertised the ‘high class’ prostitutes online and collected their earnings while Amiri helped run the website.

All three were found guilty of controlling prostitution after trial last year, while Ahmed was found guilty of two counts of conspiracy to traffic persons within the UK between January 1 2011 and April 4 2013

Amiri and Budcha were convicted of one charge of conspiracy to traffic persons within the UK.

The girls were forced to see up to 15 clients a day and perform humiliating and painful sex acts, often to the point of injury

When one victim told Ahmed she was in too much pain to work, he merely bought her a bottle of numbing spray.

Jailing Ahmed for six years, and Amiri and Budcha for five years, Judge David Tomlinson said: “You were part of a wide ranging agreement to traffic vulnerable women from Thailand into the UK for prostitution, you further agreed to control their prostitution for your personal gain.

“They (the girls) were required to do the most degrading work at any time in the 24 hour day.”

the agency traded as "Asian Exclusive", which appears to have been a front for "Nature Entertainment Ltd" - now closed
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[contentguy]

……Quite frankly, fuck him. How dare he come on here trying to justify his actions. He should go find these women, get on his knees, beg forgiveness and try to make right by them somehow. Then I might listen. Until then, fuck off cunt. If I get a ban for that, then so be it.

+1

[daviemac]

I don't mind being banned, it's no big deal. Gives me more time to be productive. But my post to the mod was I'm not sure what rule I have broken or if there has been an actual verified complaint of me.

Apart from you having no basic human decency, the rule you have broken is - 

 3 Touting
Zero tolerance for touting / advertising. You must disclose any link you have that may be seen as bias if you're not just a customer. Sharing info must be for the benefit of other punters and not promote the business of others.

You being a low life scum pimp and human trafficker, I would say falls into that category.

I think you have a nerve coming on here trying to promote your video and attempting to play the victim card. As has also been noticed by others you have shown no remorse whatsoever.

The only thing you regret is getting caught.  Whether you mind or not you are going to be banned.

[Lou2019]

Another POS exposed/banned 

[hendrix]

Jesus Fucking Christ

Well, I'm glad he's banned. Hope he steps on an upturned plug every day for the rest of his life.

[MagpieToon]

What on earth did I just read!

Honestly anyone defending or commending the bravery of this scum need to give their heads a wobble. At no point in your life should you ever think that trafficking victims for personal gain is acceptable, especially since it was only getting caught that stopped it.

Agree on the banning, absolute scum. Sad thing is there were likely women who were treated much worse and were too frightened to say anything, if able to say anything at all...