civvy vs wg notches on bedpost

[Tjkooker]

I really would take what your "friend" says with a very big pinch of salt. Only the ugliest of trolls could not pull on a night out, as there are too many below average looking guys who will fuck these girls.
If you believe girls are behaving in real life as they are in the Fake Taxi videos, then you are seriously deluded. I have yet to meet an average bird who couldn't pull.
Your "friend" wasn't John Worboys was he?

My friend has absolutely no reason to lie. We worked together for many years in other professions. I've seen him pull girls in a matter of minutes. I wish I had half his talents in pulling. So perhaps you are the one who is deluded.

[Dodo]

Now now girls 

[kingkong]

My friend has absolutely no reason to lie. We worked together for many years in other professions. I've seen him pull girls in a matter of minutes. I wish I had half his talents in pulling. So perhaps you are the one who is deluded.

I have 100's of female friends in the 16-30 range, with a variety of looks from ugly to actual models and I do not know any who cannot pull when they want. Either your friend is  a liar, or you are.

[willie loman]

My friend has absolutely no reason to lie. We worked together for many years in other professions. I've seen him pull girls in a matter of minutes. I wish I had half his talents in pulling. So perhaps you are the one who is deluded.

Yes it happens, ive heard it from a cabby I know, and from 2 wgs I know, that's up here in Edinburgh, its more common in England, where the birds are pissed and up for it much more, I suspect.

[Ravanelli]

My friend has absolutely no reason to lie. We worked together for many years in other professions. I've seen him pull girls in a matter of minutes. I wish I had half his talents in pulling. So perhaps you are the one who is deluded.

Talent in pulling?? Some of the slimiest arseholes I've ever met had 'talent in pulling' but there was no secret or magic line, it was simply that they were good looking blokes and there are enough women out there shallow enough to only care about looks.

[azrael]

One of my best budds looks like wayne rooney/shrek, butt of all the jokes amongst us guys but give him 5 mins with any hottie and he'll have her eating out of his hands the guys a silver tongued devil i tells yah. Im a 7/10 he's a 4pushing 5/10 and im his wing man. You know where you have the hottie and she's accompanied by a troll. Well in this case im the troll his notches on the bed post. This one time on holidays he went through a family and fucked all the females During our stay which was three weeks. So it can be done

[johnr1]

Mine is an approximation as I've never really counted?

Civilian about 35.5, Not something I'm proud of when I think back at some of the shockers I woke up with 
Prossies about 50.5

You may wonder what the .5 is all about?
That's my first wife, a slag like her must have sold her cunt at least once in her life, it certainly cost me enough to get rid 

LOL love the 0.5 bit, I am in the same boat 

[Diehard]

One of my best budds looks like wayne rooney/shrek, butt of all the jokes amongst us guys but give him 5 mins with any hottie and he'll have her eating out of his hands the guys a silver tongued devil i tells yah. Im a 7/10 he's a 4pushing 5/10 and im his wing man. You know where you have the hottie and she's accompanied by a troll. Well in this case im the troll his notches on the bed post. This one time on holidays he went through a family and fucked all the females During our stay which was three weeks. So it can be done

I really must be living in some sort of parallel universe. Fucking an entire family of females just is never going to happen to me even if I can afford liposuction and a face lift.

Civvie fucks seem to be put on a bit of a pedestal, but let's be blunt, a civvie fuck is only an ego boost if the civvie in question is gorgeous, albeit the sex may well be shit.

This could be worth another thread. What would people rather have. A guaranteed civvie fuck on Friday night with size 14 average looking girl, or a paid for 150 quid hour long fuck with a drop dead gorgeous no holds barred nymph who is an escort. Personally I'd take the latter every time.

I've been on 9 civvies for a while now, none of which would rate in my top 10 shags, either because the sex was awful as it was with the two hotties I somehow once managed to pull, or because the other girls I pulled were frankly munters.

In my experience, the guys I know who have managed to pull the good looking girls who were great in bed, according to the blokes, were guys who were either loaded beyond belief, so called hard men with a bit of power in their neck of woods, or footballers.

For Mr average like me, in both looks, charisma and wealth, I think to get more than two or three absolute stunner civvie fucks is very unlikely, unless you have something she wants, and I don't mean cock!!

[Clooney]

OK, not trying to sound like a wanker and not bullshitting. Roughly 2-1 ratio.

Approximately 200 pros, 100 civvies. I did very well when young. The latter days of acid house and ecstasy meant that I got a lot of action. Right place, right time. I also had a very adventurous girlfriend for 3 years which led to a number of group situations.

[Ali Katt]

41WG's v less than 10 Civvies and I have no intention of adding to the civvy count

tcm

I have similar numbers, although I think I have had less than 40 WGs.

Approximately 200 pros, 100 civvies. I did very well when young. The latter days of acid house and ecstasy meant that I got a lot of action. Right place, right time. I also had a very adventurous girlfriend for 3 years which led to a number of group situations.

I used to go clubbing a lot, but in the early 2000s\late 90s and there were some stunning girls, but I couldn't pull them to save my life; I would end up talking bollocks and getting into the friends zone.

[the_exile]

No, not sad at all. You have slept with a 102 women. How many men can say that?

+1

Me: 4 vs 82 (C to WGs)  so no, I cant say that either - yet   

[Diehard]

OK, not trying to sound like a wanker and not bullshitting. Roughly 2-1 ratio.

Approximately 200 pros, 100 civvies. I did very well when young. The latter days of acid house and ecstasy meant that I got a lot of action. Right place, right time. I also had a very adventurous girlfriend for 3 years which led to a number of group situations.

Interesting comments. The two stunners I managed to get were both at a hard house event and both off their tits on ecstasy. My clubbing days were almost exclusively hard house events and there were some absolute stunners who didn't require a chat up line or small talk, just good dance moves and a six pack. As I had neither I usually ended up empty handed but my clubbing days were the mid to late 90 s and by that time the hard house, house scene had largely degenerated to funky house and was a lot more mainstream with djs earning a fortune. This though meant the right place right time you allude to wasn't really as relevant by then as the halcyon days I heard about to which you refer, which was late 80s early 90 s where everyone had the same mindset, ie unadulterated hedonism had long gone as in the late 90s a lot of this type of club had a lot of students going so this pushed away the club goers of the type a decade earlier.

I have noticed that the guys like you who would be defined as studs tend to be of an older generation, I've seen a few chaps whose young days were late 60s and early70s posting similar numbers to you, but can't recall any of the younger guys who clubbed a decade ago and in the noughties reporting similar fruitfulness in their younger days.

We will never know I suppose, but I wish there was a way of finding out which decade women were at their most promiscuous. I say women as for us blokes it a pointless exercise, we are always promiscuous. If I were to guess I'd say perhaps 1) 60's, 2) 70's 3) 80's, 4) now, 5) noughties 6) 90s.

[a10]

For me it's 5 civvies to about 300 or so WGs (I stopped trying to figure it out at 250 a few years ago)

[Mr Br1ghts1de]

For me 25 civvies and approaching 125 wg's.

Having discovered parties, FKK clubs and added extensively to my aw hl since joining here, I think my ratio will move from 1:5 to 1:10 in the course of the next 18 months.

[Tjkooker]

I have 100's of female friends in the 16-30 range, with a variety of looks from ugly to actual models and I do not know any who cannot pull when they want. Either your friend is  a liar, or you are.

That's where your problem is.. You have 100's of female friends because they all think your gay.
I've seen stunning ladies probably your "actual models" ( what a wank thing to say)  bomb out on a night out due to being so far up their own arse.
 Oh and never call me a liar. I have no need or desire to lie here. Yes my punting life is secret to those I know in real life. That's as far as my mistruths extend.

[the pussy man]

Civies = 15
WGs = 130 ish.. over 7 yrs

i don't tend to see WGs more than once so get thru quite a lot i guess.. its the thrill of a new girl for me..

[itspaul]

Reading this post with interest lol. I have no idea on civvy girls as I worked as a sound engineer in the lateseventies early eighties with numerous groups on tour so it was a bit of a sweet shop and I now work as a gas engineer on social housing contracts and when women are alone and in there own home they seem to enjoy teasing workmen lol  wg count I'm not sure of but I have a feedback of 79 on aw  but I would think around 150  . I totally believe the taxi drivers claims tho

[KidCandyShop]

OK, not trying to sound like a wanker and not bullshitting. Roughly 2-1 ratio.

Approximately 200 pros, 100 civvies. I did very well when young. The latter days of acid house and ecstasy meant that I got a lot of action. Right place, right time. I also had a very adventurous girlfriend for 3 years which led to a number of group situations.

+1 worked in the dance club scene in my 30's and lost count of the 18-25 year old hotties i got to play with, will still have a smile on my face when i'm dribbling into my gravy in an oap home 

[kingkong]

That's where your problem is.. You have 100's of female friends because they all think your gay.
I've seen stunning ladies probably your "actual models" ( what a wank thing to say)  bomb out on a night out due to being so far up their own arse.
 Oh and never call me a liar. I have no need or desire to lie here. Yes my punting life is secret to those I know in real life. That's as far as my mistruths extend.

I have 100's of female friends and male friends because I am at an age when I would have that many. I have model friends as I did some modelling when I was at Uni. The biggest wanker thing a man can call another man is "gay". Are you a child or what?
Once again, I will say I have yet to see even an average looking girl who couldn't pull on a night out.

[Tjkooker]

I have 100's of female friends and male friends because I am at an age when I would have that many. I have model friends as I did some modelling when I was at Uni. The biggest wanker thing a man can call another man is "gay". Are you a child or what?
Once again, I will say I have yet to see even an average looking girl who couldn't pull on a night out.

You will note I didn't call you "gay". I alleged that's what your "actual model" friends would believe you are. Going by this post I think I will just go straight out and call you GAY. 

[Dodo]

Can't you pair of muppets argue via PM and stop clogging up this interesting thread pleeeeeeeeeease 

[KidCandyShop]

Can't you pair of muppets argue via PM and stop clogging up this interesting thread pleeeeeeeeeease 

Well said that man

[kingkong]

You will note I didn't call you "gay". I alleged that's what your "actual model" friends would believe you are. Going by this post I think I will just go straight out and call you GAY.

The problem with this forum is there are too many Liars on it such as you.

[willie loman]

The last free shag I had was so long ago, women had pubic hair. what always irritates me on these threads, is the assumption that girls can always pull. they have the freedom to stagger home with a drunken loser that no one else wants, that all. Men have the upperhand. Look around the supermarket, crappy looking guys, nice wives. Its not the other way around.

[Tjkooker]

The problem with this forum is there are too many Liars on it such as you.

Why do you think I am lying? because I posted something you personally do not believe? Are people all expected to conform to your view on what's possible and what isn't?  Maybe in your personal life you move in completely different circles to me. In my experience, 20yrs in licensed trade related roles.  Often barmen, doormen, taxidrivers, policemen etc etc are seen as a safe option for many girls. What's the common thing with these professions. Nearly all are sober and have transport, most are known to the girls to some extent. Far safer for them than picking up a fat arsehole with half a kebab spilled down his front and piss all over his shoes.
I believe you must have lived a very sheltered or privileged life.

[Ali Katt]

Why do you think I am lying? because I posted something you personally do not believe? Are people all expected to conform to your view on what's possible and what isn't?  Maybe in your personal life you move in completely different circles to me. In my experience, 20yrs in licensed trade related roles.  Often barmen, doormen, taxidrivers, policemen etc etc are seen as a safe option for many girls. What's the common thing with these professions. Nearly all are sober and have transport, most are known to the girls to some extent. Far safer for them than picking up a fat arsehole with half a kebab spilled down his front and piss all over his shoes.
I believe you must have lived a very sheltered or privileged life.

I think you can control a person's sobriety you hold a great deal of power, barmen, bouncers and the old bill can all do this.

[Diehard]

Why do you think I am lying? because I posted something you personally do not believe? Are people all expected to conform to your view on what's possible and what isn't?  Maybe in your personal life you move in completely different circles to me. In my experience, 20yrs in licensed trade related roles.  Often barmen, doormen, taxidrivers, policemen etc etc are seen as a safe option for many girls. What's the common thing with these professions. Nearly all are sober and have transport, most are known to the girls to some extent. Far safer for them than picking up a fat arsehole with half a kebab spilled down his front and piss all over his shoes.
I believe you must have lived a very sheltered or privileged life.

You a partly correct although it is a bit deeper than what you say. A barman has a use for a girl as if she lets him fuck her she and her mates are likely to get free drinks for as long as he fucks her. Women love doorman as it is a primeval thing, doorman are more likely than not to win in a fight, and as much as women around the globe say men handling themselves well in a scrap is not at some level a turn on, the truth is genetically it is as women are programmed to want to mate with the alpha male. Also many doormen have great bodies. Police men is similar to a doorman but they have the attraction of being in uniform, something women love and a kind of heroic status albeit not as much as in the past. You could add firemen to your list.

As for taxi drivers I would question your point. This may be a regional thing but in the Midlands pretty much all taxi drivers are Asian. I have never seen in a club good looking white women making out with an Asian guy, and have yet to hear any female work colleagues or female associates on nights out when the conversation turns to who turns them on ever point to an Asian guy. On that basis I just can't see many Midlands taxi drivers getting laid. The other thing about taxis is many now have cameras in them so even for white taxi drivers surely it is more than their job is worth?

However, please don't think I am accusing you of lying, far from it, I found your comments very interesting

[Thefaceless]

Greetings all...
Long time lurker first time posting.
Civvy count is 24 vs WG 26. 

[webpunter]

Have been pondering this subject recently.  As a sign i'm getting older then i'm pretty sure that i'm approaching the 'tipping point' where the no. of WG's will exceed civvie shags.  Not quite there yet thankfully.  The civvie shag count is around 3 figures.  This does include some complete howlers where i woke up the morning & thought     Seemed like a good idea idea earlier on that day.  Will have to try & compile a list a some point & store this away on an online database.  The problem is remembering.  When i was young it was pretty much all civvie shags with a very occasional WG - whereas now its the other way round.  I'm working on the premise that getting caught by the OH with a WG will be down to me fucking up - or very very bad luck.  But a civvie shag brings in all sorts of other risk factors.  And have knocked this on the head - unless a very very good reason arises 

[Ali Katt]

You a partly correct although it is a bit deeper than what you say. A barman has a use for a girl as if she lets him fuck her she and her mates are likely to get free drinks for as long as he fucks her. Women love doorman as it is a primeval thing, doorman are more likely than not to win in a fight, and as much as women around the globe say men handling themselves well in a scrap is not at some level a turn on, the truth is genetically it is as women are programmed to want to mate with the alpha male. Also many doormen have great bodies. Police men is similar to a doorman but they have the attraction of being in uniform, something women love and a kind of heroic status albeit not as much as in the past. You could add firemen to your list.

As for taxi drivers I would question your point. This may be a regional thing but in the Midlands pretty much all taxi drivers are Asian. I have never seen in a club good looking white women making out with an Asian guy, and have yet to hear any female work colleagues or female associates on nights out when the conversation turns to who turns them on ever point to an Asian guy. On that basis I just can't see many Midlands taxi drivers getting laid. The other thing about taxis is many now have cameras in them so even for white taxi drivers surely it is more than their job is worth?

However, please don't think I am accusing you of lying, far from it, I found your comments very interesting

I don't think you are correct on the doormen thing. I worked in security when I was younger and most are fat, often ugly and in some cases shorter than average. Very few look like Jean Claude Van Damme, but most have a knack for banter. With Asians in general a lot of the younger ones boast about the prowess with women how much of it is real and how much is bullshit is questionable. The older ones are usually married and possibly don't fuck around.

[Tjkooker]

Yes you are quite right about the regional thing. It's only in the last 5 years or so Asian taxi drivers have started to appear in numbers up here. Most girls I know refuse to go in an Asian drivers taxi. That's getting into a race issue which is even further from the topic.
I stand by my original post here and have only taken issue with donkeykong for failing to believe people lives are different out with his obviously limited social circle.

[Diehard]

Yes you are quite right about the regional thing. It's only in the last 5 years or so Asian taxi drivers have started to appear in numbers up here. Most girls I know refuse to go in an Asian drivers taxi. That's getting into a race issue which is even further from the topic.
I stand by my original post here and have only taken issue with donkeykong for failing to believe people lives are different out with his obviously limited social circle.

I don't really want to turn it into a race issue although it is hard not to. I know a few women, all nice looking(I have got nowhere near fucking them btw) who are definitely not racist or ignorant of other cultures. It is purely physical attraction. That why I thought it would be hard for taxi drivers in Midlands, not for the cultural aspect. It is totally different discussion to other threads about hookers refusing to see Asians, I don't want to rehash that topic.

What I'd like to know is out of you numerous civvie shags how many would you place at 7/10 and upwards. I'm not questioning your ability to pull stunners btw, I am just interested and would be interested in general what guys ratios are in terms of stunner to munter

[Diehard]

I don't think you are correct on the doormen thing. I worked in security when I was younger and most are fat, often ugly and in some cases shorter than average. Very few look like Jean Claude Van Damme, but most have a knack for banter. With Asians in general a lot of the younger ones boast about the prowess with women how much of it is real and how much is bullshit is questionable. The older ones are usually married and possibly don't fuck around.

I think it is bull shit although maybe times are changing. I'm not sure banter has much to do with it although I take your point a lot of bouncers are basically fat. But what women love is the alpha male aspect.

I've only had in terms of civvie fucks two really hot women. One was pure and the other was as a direct result of me having an altercation with a couple of blokes and coming out on top.

[Tjkooker]

On a personal note if I were to rate. I'd  say 80% would be 7/10 or above.  A 6/10 would be as low as I ever aim in civvy life. A few friends that would have maybe ranked a 5/10 have slipped through the net into my bed, but that's usually based on enjoying each other's company rather than lust. I'm not exactly any girls 10/10 so cut my jib  accordingly and occasionally punch above my weight with some "actual model" types 

Punting wise I always aim for 7/10 and upwards.

[webpunter]

ranked a 5/10 have slipped through the net into my bed

some of the best civvie shags i've had have been with girlies who were more like 5 or 6 rather than 7-8-9
they might not be quite as good on the eye-candy aspect, but more than make up with being: nice / a good laugh / dirty as fuck & up for all night shagging

[cueball]

some of the best civvie shags i've had have been with girlies who were more like 5 or 6 rather than 7-8-9
they might not be quite as good on the eye-candy aspect, but more than make up with being: nice / a good laugh / dirty as fuck & up for all night shagging

Agreed, the best civvie shags I've had have been with average looking girls, and they make your breakfast the morning after, the fit ones want taking out for brekkie

[kingkong]

Why do you think I am lying? because I posted something you personally do not believe? Are people all expected to conform to your view on what's possible and what isn't?  Maybe in your personal life you move in completely different circles to me. In my experience, 20yrs in licensed trade related roles.  Often barmen, doormen, taxidrivers, policemen etc etc are seen as a safe option for many girls. What's the common thing with these professions. Nearly all are sober and have transport, most are known to the girls to some extent. Far safer for them than picking up a fat arsehole with half a kebab spilled down his front and piss all over his shoes.
I believe you must have lived a very sheltered or privileged life.

No sheltered or privileged life for me, I can assure you.
Again.. I have yet to hear of an average looking girl shagging a taxi driver at the end of the night. Looking at the faketaxi clips that you mentioned, I read some of the comments and it is as if the comments are made by school boys. They think that these girls are real and don't realise most are well known pornstars.
I can say from my experience of knowing alot of younger women that none see a taxi driver as a "safe option" these days.

[kingkong]

some of the best civvie shags i've had have been with girlies who were more like 5 or 6 rather than 7-8-9
they might not be quite as good on the eye-candy aspect, but more than make up with being: nice / a good laugh / dirty as fuck & up for all night shagging

I would concur with you on that one. The plain Jane girls are better in bed.

[Dante]

About 20 civvies, 6 WGs.

[Jamboney]

3 civvies vs 10 WG's 

[Ali Katt]

I think it is bull shit although maybe times are changing. I'm not sure banter has much to do with it although I take your point a lot of bouncers are basically fat. But what women love is the alpha male aspect.

I've only had in terms of civvie fucks two really hot women. One was pure and the other was as a direct result of me having an altercation with a couple of blokes and coming out on top.

All true, but trust me a lot of bouncers come across as being funny, friendly guys - in reality probably not, but it's all about perception and it lowers a woman's guard, they may look thuggish, but appear to take an interest in the women, as well as the alpha thing it helps.