Viagra connect? How long before another one?

[Generalstockinghead]

Just had a knock out session at roses retreat and left still horny, I have a few things to do in Manchester and would love to go again when finished.  I took a VC at 9 this morning for a 11 o’clock, can I take another for a 3 o’clock 2nd round?

[sim0256]

One a day only AFAIK. What does pack say?  It's dangerous to take too much could end you up in A&E. That would put horniness out of your thoughts!!

[FiveKnuckles]

2 hours would be the peak for the active ingredient in your bloodstream.   you may still be able to get hard for a 2nd punt. 
There's no rule of thumb to follow, depends on your body (and the dosage for VC is 50mg?)


try tadalafil in the future if you're up for multi punts.

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[JustaPunter]

Depends on the strength, 25mg, 50mg or 100mg are the dose of Viagra you can get, as FiveK says VC is 50mg.

I know loads of people that have taken 2x100mg a day, I know of one person that took 2x100mg at the same time.

There was a report of a person in China (I think) that was taking something crazy like 10x100mg at once on a regular basis, I can’t remember the exact details but it was factual and the story was in some random medical paper I was reading.

Might be an idea to switch to Cialis at some point

But taking 2x50mg VC is no problem.

An interesting chart shared by FiveK above, I knew it was better to take Viagra on an empty stomach, but never realised it made that much of a difference to blood levels. Going by that chart the bioavailability of 100mg on an empty stomach would not be hugely different to 200mg taken with food

[bigden40]

Viagra connect is 50 isn’t it?

[Generalstockinghead]

Yep 50mg.  Seeing as the standard dose is 100mg I think I’ll be ok.  Going to see if I can get another booking. Fuck it

[daviemac]

Yep 50mg.  Seeing as the standard dose is 100mg I think I’ll be ok.  Going to see if I can get another booking. Fuck it

Standard dose is 50mg mate, that's what the doctors prescribe and that's what Viagra connect is.

As far as how many you can take I don't think there's a limit, you can take as many as you want, but there again I'm just guessing as I'm not medically qualified and I haven't read the leaflet that come with them, that may well say something entirely different.   

[guymids-72]

I'm prescribed 100mg Viagra
So two VC's would be the same

[yandex]

I know loads of people that have taken 2x100mg a day, I know of one person that took 2x100mg at the same time.

Doesn't make it safe though, does it?

Everyone is different and the manufacturers will always err on the side of caution but it's probably best to read the information leaflet that comes with the medication and follow that advice. Now that it's been deemed safe enough to buy over the counter there's probably a pretty decent margin between recommended dose and an unsafe dose but you only have to fuck it up once.....

[Generalstockinghead]

Couldn’t get another booking so I never took the second one, but I did take advantage of a play with Elise at Cheshire elite on my way home and that turned into a 2 girl as well.  Reviews to come when my brain has fully processed the amount of pussy

[JustaPunter]

Doesn't make it safe though, does it?

Everyone is different and the manufacturers will always err on the side of caution but it's probably best to read the information leaflet that comes with the medication and follow that advice. Now that it's been deemed safe enough to buy over the counter there's probably a pretty decent margin between recommended dose and an unsafe dose but you only have to fuck it up once.....

Please point out where I said it was safe.

The maximum prescription dose is never the safe maximum daily dose, ever.

[yandex]

Please point out where I said it was safe.

The maximum prescription dose is never the safe maximum daily dose, ever.

I didn't, it's implied by what you wrote. I'm simply pointing out that knowing a load of people who don't follow what's recommend isn't in itself a sensible guide as to what's safe and what isn't. Lemmings spring to mind.

All drugs have an efficacy vs undesirable effects profile. Taking more of something might not kill you but it might give you more side effects for little extra reward. That's why there are maximum doses.

Each to their own though. As always, asking for medical advice on here isn't the best way to go about things.

[seeker]

I always thought its not the dosage (max 100mg)
But taking it more than once in a 24 hour period that made it unsafe 
No shag is worth putting your health in jeopardy 

[mr.bluesky]

I always thought its not the dosage (max 100mg)
But taking it more than once in a 24 hour period that made it unsafe 
No shag is worth putting your health in jeopardy 

100% agree , if the instructions that come with the pills say no more than 2 to be taken in a 24 hour period then it's for a reason. Not worth the risk imo.

[Marmalade]

The maximum prescription dose is never the safe maximum daily dose, ever.

That’s not true in my view. The maximum safe cocodamol are routinely prescribed. Similarly paracetamol. If you take more than that, your liver takes the toll. But with most drugs a young healthy person can go a little over the prescribed amount usually and with a large dose of common sense!

[Marmalade]

I haven't read the leaflet that come with them, that may well say something entirely different.   

It’s a bit like a Microsoft agreement isn’t it. I’ve not seen the leaflet in packets of Viagra Connect but many prescription leaflets are in such small print many patients will need extra prescription glasses to read the thing.

I am guessing many people read the bit on the label that says take once a day or whatever and hopefully remember when the doctor said don’t use while operating heavy machinery or taking poppers (except the doctor forgot to say that as it’s on the leaflet). 

[FiveKnuckles]

I am guessing many people read the bit on the label that says take once a day or whatever and hopefully remember when the doctor said don’t use while operating heavy machinery or taking poppers (except the doctor forgot to say that as it’s on the leaflet). 

does that include BBW?

i'll get my coat 

[MysteryManNo.7]

You're better off using Tadalafil at least my own experience has been way better. Lasts up to 48 hours for me, 0 side effects, can be taken with food/after eating and won't affect the onset.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

You're better off using Tadalafil at least my own experience has been way better. Lasts up to 48 hours for me, 0 side effects, can be taken with food/after eating and won't affect the onset.

I reckon that would be good but has to be prescribed IIRC and some married men don't like asking their GP's;(...

[Gordon Bennett]

Hopefully this is link to the leaflet.....

External Link/Members Only

Has the usual 1/1000 chance of death quoted. Always seems a bit low that number doesn't it!? 

[Marmalade]

I reckon that would be good but has to be prescribed IIRC and some married men don't like asking their GP's;(...

Buy from Menschem same as Viagra and get it delivered to safe location of your choice, plain brown box, Royal Mail.

[daviemac]

It’s a bit like a Microsoft agreement isn’t it. I’ve not seen the leaflet in packets of Viagra Connect but many prescription leaflets are in such small print many patients will need extra prescription glasses to read the thing.

I am guessing many people read the bit on the label that says take once a day or whatever and hopefully remember when the doctor said don’t use while operating heavy machinery or taking poppers (except the doctor forgot to say that as it’s on the leaflet). 

To be honest I was being facetious, I have read the leaflet, the same as I've read the leaflets in the other 7 different medications I take. It's my personal opinion that anyone asking for medical advice on a punting forum is an idiot, there's a whole internet full of information from sites like the NHS or the drug manufacturers themselves, information that can be relied on not from some anonymous punter.   

[JustaPunter]

I didn't, it's implied by what you wrote. I'm simply pointing out that knowing a load of people who don't follow what's recommend isn't in itself a sensible guide as to what's safe and what isn't. Lemmings spring to mind.

All drugs have an efficacy vs undesirable effects profile. Taking more of something might not kill you but it might give you more side effects for little extra reward. That's why there are maximum doses.

Each to their own though. As always, asking for medical advice on here isn't the best way to go about things.

I never implied anything.

You took a factual statement and added your own little twist to it.

[JustaPunter]

That’s not true in my view. The maximum safe cocodamol are routinely prescribed. Similarly paracetamol. If you take more than that, your liver takes the toll. But with most drugs a young healthy person can go a little over the prescribed amount usually and with a large dose of common sense!

Might not be true in your view but it’s a fact.

Ever wondered why the maximum dose of Ibuprofen is 400mg 3 times a day?

But people can be prescribed more than that by a Doctor?

You do realise that Co Codomol contains Paracetamol?

Maybe get hold of a copy of BNF and have a read?

 

[Marmalade]

Might not be true in your view but it’s a fact.

Ever wondered why the maximum dose of Ibuprofen is 400mg 3 times a day?

But people can be prescribed more than that by a Doctor?

You do realise that Co Codomol contains Paracetamol?

Maybe get hold of a copy of BNF and have a read?

I don’t need to actually. The highest dose routinely prescribed is 2xcocodamol each containing 30mg codeine with 500mg paracetamol, up to four times a day with minimum four hours between doses and no more than 4 doses in 24hrs. Cocodamol overdose is the highest (or among the highest) emergency hospital admissions for overdose. Since you can overdose on the same amounts of paracetamol personally I think the warnings on those otc packets should be larger, especially as the immediate symptoms are mild and serious ones, harder to treat, take longer to appear.

Yes, I’d encourage anyone to have a read of BNF. It’s available online.

[MysteryManNo.7]

I reckon that would be good but has to be prescribed IIRC and some married men don't like asking their GP's;(...

Doesn't need to be prescribed specifically by a face to face Dr. I've used Dr Fox twice for it and always got approved and got it delivered very quickly. Tried sildenafil as well but it gave me terrible side effects and didn't last anywhere near as long as Tadalafil.

[mills_and_bhuna]

I reckon that would be good but has to be prescribed IIRC and some married men don't like asking their GP's;(...

Menschem will deliver it to a Post Office if you don't want the risk of interception by the missus.

[yandex]

I never implied anything.

You took a factual statement and added your own little twist to it.

You're clearly pushing your view that recommended doses are just a guide and it's ok to take more. There's a difference between a medical professional prescribing a certain dose, which may or may not be more than the maximum, and an individual deciding to give it a go because they want a better/more effect.

To use your ibuprofen example, there's a recognised issue of it causing kidney damage. A responsible prescriber would ensure adequate monitoring and make the patient aware of what to do if they had d & v etc. You're correct in that the occasional extra may not be much of an issue but people commonly turn occasional into regular without realising. Accidental paracetamol overdoses are a good example.

To get back to the original subject, Sildenafil was originally developed for angina so it has the potential to cause cardiac side effects. Taking more than the recommended dose is therefore clearly a risk for some people although many will happily get away with it.

Anyway, enough of this. The OP would be far better off speaking to qualified health care professional

[Home Alone]

... ... ... ...

Anyway, enough of this. The OP would be far better off speaking to qualified health care professional

... which is what I did when the Viagra, which my GP had prescribed for me on the NHS some 8 or so years previously, began to be less effective. (I was born with a birth defect which is specifically mentioned in the list of patients for whom an NHS prescription for Cialis can be made out.)

A trainee GP, who was on placement from the local University Medical School, went to the Formulary and prescribed Tadalafil (Cialis) for me. It has a different - kind-of longer-lasting - effect than Sildenafil (Viagra). I often wake up with a distinct "semi" on the morning after I've taken one.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

I do take on board the recommdation to consult a qualified medical professional if you can find the right one!, sometimes the're not all the same or as good as each other as i have found from personal exprerinince sad to say;!

That said its quite valid asking users of some medications of theri own personal expercnes of using a "genre" of drug and the results and or problems they experence. Clinical observations its known by another name however it does require a modicum of common sense in that anyone who says i take x tabs of drug y and find the more i take the better it gets is risky to take notice of however someone saying i had  bad experencs of drug x but then Doc prscribed drug z and that for me worked better may prompt someone else to ask theri Doc for the same and see how that person gets on with that!

Of course various side effects may manifest themselves as you may be taking drugs a b c and d which may not react that well with another drug introduced.

It was a comment by someone else that put me on the path of a better hypertensive med or rather an odd combination of same thats resulted in my blood pressure being better controlled! 

[Marmalade]

It was a comment by someone else that put me on the path of a better hypertensive med or rather an odd combination of same thats resulted in my blood pressure being better controlled!

It’s a good example. A lot of people don’t realise there’s a wide variety of anti-hypertensives that act in very different ways and what might work well for one person might not for another and vice versa.

The difference of course is that no-one gets anti-hypertensives without a doctor consultation and prescription. So hearing about a different one can spark the question to one’s GP, asking to try a different one or a combination if the one you have doesn’t suit you or doesn’t seem effective enough. They might go through several until they find the best one, which will be different for the next person.

I think the annoying thing to many members about viagra and viagra-connect questions is that they keep coming up, almost exactly the same, and a simple use of the search function would show almost identical threads. Then a mod always says, if someone else doesn’t, to get proper advice from one’s GP anyway. It’s like a standard disclaimer.

[jonnw16]

You're better off using Tadalafil at least my own experience has been way better. Lasts up to 48 hours for me, 0 side effects, can be taken with food/after eating and won't affect the onset.

Please be aware that it can have severe interactions with some drugs, particularly those for treating hypertension.

The BNF has been mentioned (British National Formulary), here is a link to the entry for Tadalafil: External Link/Members Only.

[Marmalade]

Please be aware that it can have severe interactions with some drugs, particularly those for treating hypertension.

The BNF has been mentioned (British National Formulary), here is a link to the entry for Tadalafil: External Link/Members Only.

Good to give the link — but here we go again on not giving medical advice. Most of those listed as severe interactions are not anti-hypertensives but drugs for other things. There will be people who are prescribed both viagra/sildenafil cialis/tadalafil who are also prescribed anti-hypertensives and there’s no need to go scaring them. I’m not going to give medical advice. Simply try to explore a couple of bits of logic on how these things work.

Put simply Viagra and its variants can lower blood pressure a bit. If your blood pressure is already low enough to be a concern, then taking something that can lower it further isn’t a great idea. If you are already taking something to lower BP then viagra could lower it a bit more though not necessarily dangerously. That’s why amlodipine (an anti-hypetertensive) for instance is listed as having ‘moderate interaction’.

As people get older they often end up on a cocktail of drugs, some of which could have mild to moderate interactions. So here we come back to the ‘ask your GP’ bit: as he or she will help to judge the degree of interaction more accurately.

If you’re under 50 with normal blood pressure and not on meds then it’s a lot easier to experiment. I’ve still got some old 40mg tadalafil tablets I bought from abroad some years back (licensed pharmacy, major manufacturer). That would be an “excessive dose” by British safety standards. Some, not all, British standards are watered down to be “safest for everyone” — which you may or may not think is a good idea.

[daviemac]

Please be aware that it can have severe interactions with some drugs, particularly those for treating hypertension.

The BNF has been mentioned (British National Formulary), here is a link to the entry for Tadalafil: External Link/Members Only.

I was prescribed Sildenafil with the option of switching to Tadalafil (Cialis) and I take, among several other medications, the ACE inhibitor Ramipril, is my doctor wrong?   

[timmy1]

Does Viagra work when you've had a few drinks?, no problem getting it up when sober with SP's but a few times the past year after a few drinks with civies I've been having problems getting it up when its never been an issue before (just turned 30)

[southcoastpunter]

Does Viagra work when you've had a few drinks?, no problem getting it up when sober with SP's but a few times the past year after a few drinks with civies I've been having problems getting it up when its never been an issue before (just turned 30)

I guess guys are different and maybe the various forms of viagra might be different. I sometimes take sildenafil - i was prescribed 50mg's but cut them in half so only took 25mgs. I find that with drink (ie more than just one glass of wine) or after a big dinner i need the 50mg

Drink and food seems to make Sildenafil, for me, weaker and longer to take effect. without drink or food i take 25mg about 45 - 60 minutes before any action. With drink and/or food i take 50mg about 75 minutes before!

[contentguy]

I was prescribed Sildenafil with the option of switching to Tadalafil (Cialis) and I take, among several other medications, the ACE inhibitor Ramipril, is my doctor wrong?   

It's always worth "reading the label" to ensure the doc has considered contraindications for new prescriptions.  A good pharmacist will provide a safety net for this too, considering current medications being prescribed.
I recall 2 instances where a close relative has been prescribed something they shouldn't have been.  One had serious repercussions.  The other was corrected via the pharmacist contacting the doctor and something else was prescribed.

If I need medical advice, I'll go to a medical professional.  It's ironic really that jonnw16 is perhaps trying to be helpful, and at the same time, totally misrepresents the guidance he's quoting:

Please be aware that it can have severe interactions with some drugs, particularly those for treating hypertension.

The BNF has been mentioned (British National Formulary), here is a link to the entry for Tadalafil: External Link/Members Only.

Looking at the page he links to, there are 0 mentions of additional risk of hypertension and 163 mentions of hypotension.

What's a minor spelling error, Pot80 / PotArtO - but in this case, it kind of makes a massive difference difference!

[Thephoenix]

I was prescribed Sildenafil with the option of switching to Tadalafil (Cialis) and I take, among several other medications, the ACE inhibitor Ramipril, is my doctor wrong?   

Some doctor's are better than others.
Some are busier than others.
In very busy group practices when it's almost impossible to see the same doctor, as well as listening to their advice, it's worthwhile thoroughly reading the patient information sheets and also doing your own checks on drug interactions, as everyone reacts differently.

Over the years I can recall a number of times when I've been misinformed by a GP, and some can't even agree with each other.
I've also been prescribed sildenafil whilst taking medication for hypertension, with no warnings from the GP about possible interactions, despite the advice on Drugs.com for professionals to warn patients of the dangers of sudden hypotension such as fainting, tachycardia etc.

Only after having experienced such distressing symptoms, was I advised by a cardiac consultant not to combine the two meds.

The website quoted is an excellent source of information for both patients and professionals.

[Generalstockinghead]

It’s sound lads thanks! I managed another session without my reliable chemical cock!   

[daviemac]

Some doctor's are better than others.
Some are busier than others.
In very busy group practices when it's almost impossible to see the same doctor, as well as listening to their advice, it's worthwhile thoroughly reading the patient information sheets and also doing your own checks on drug interactions, as everyone reacts differently.

Over the years I can recall a number of times when I've been misinformed by a GP, and some can't even agree with each other.
I've also been prescribed sildenafil whilst taking medication for hypertension, with no warnings from the GP about possible interactions, despite the advice on Drugs.com for professionals to warn patients of the dangers of sudden hypotension such as fainting, tachycardia etc.

Only after having experienced such distressing symptoms, was I advised by a cardiac consultant not to combine the two meds.

The website quoted is an excellent source of information for both patients and professionals.

I've said this before but my doctor did 7 different blood test to eliminate any underlying cause for ED, they, as I saw more than on at the practice, checked for any interactions with other medication I was taking before issuing a prescription.

On a personal note I have read the patient information leaflets that came with all the medication I take plus looking at the manufacturer's websites.

If I can just clarify my position on medical advice, asking something on the lines of if anyone has experienced any side effects with a particular medication and are there any alternatives is OK. But asking if something is safe to take or what quantities are safe, in my opinion, is stupidity, we are all individuals and what is alright for one might not be for another.

As an aside if I went online to order ED meds and answered the questions truthfully they would not supply it.

[Home Alone]

Some doctor's are better than others.
Some are busier than others.
In very busy group practices when it's almost impossible to see the same doctor, as well as listening to their advice, it's worthwhile thoroughly reading the patient information sheets and also doing your own checks on drug interactions, as everyone reacts differently.

Over the years I can recall a number of times when I've been misinformed by a GP, and some can't even agree with each other.
I've also been prescribed sildenafil whilst taking medication for hypertension, with no warnings from the GP about possible interactions, despite the advice on Drugs.com for professionals to warn patients of the dangers of sudden hypotension such as fainting, tachycardia etc.

Only after having experienced such distressing symptoms, was I advised by a cardiac consultant not to combine the two meds.

The website quoted is an excellent source of information for both patients and professionals.

And that was one of the things about the Trainee GP who began prescribing Tadalafil for me. She wasn't under any time pressure. She actually got the Formulary off the shelf and worked through the entry in it, asking me questions as appropriate. It must be 8 or 9 years since I saw her. She finished her placement at the Health Centre where I was a patient and I haven't a clue where she now practises.

[myothernameis]

One a day only AFAIK. What does pack say?  It's dangerous to take too much could end you up in A&E. That would put horniness out of your thoughts!!

Even at taking one tablet one per day, I think I would add one day, of rest  where no tablets are taken, let your system, clear your body of the drug

[Punting2022]

I use tadafil 5mg.  One the night before and one on day before seeing sb/girls etc. Its suitable to help with no effects. Viagra i find makes it harder to cum.

[shed]

I use tadafil 5mg.  One the night before and one on day before seeing sb/girls etc. Its suitable to help with no effects. Viagra i find makes it harder to cum.

Welcome to the forum 

[contentguy]

Welcome to the forum 

+1. Look forward to reading your experience with said drugs

[Watts.E.Dunn]

I use tadafil 5mg.  One the night before and one on day before seeing sb/girls etc. Its suitable to help with no effects. Viagra i find makes it harder to cum.

Yes review sample exapmle;

Lady was: XXxxxXX

Drugs used 2 mg Tadafill

Lenth of erection: you'd never belive me!

Time durantion of Brinell hardness: (redacted)

Pops obtained: 3 hours worth

etc.....

[fredhiggins]

Some good info here 

[jonnw16]

I was prescribed Sildenafil with the option of switching to Tadalafil (Cialis) and I take, among several other medications, the ACE inhibitor Ramipril, is my doctor wrong?   

No, your doctor is not wrong. But the point I was trying to make (and made a mess of) was that it can be dangerous to think "oh I'll just try x instead" and go and get some. As you say, these things are far better arranged (at least initially) in consultation with your GP. Though I do think the contraindication to certain blood pressure medications was more stark when I first researched it.

And apologies to all, as contentguy points out, I meant to say Hypotenstion not Hypertension.

[jonnw16]

For goodness sake, I'm confusing myself here. Strike this sentence:

And apologies to all, as contentguy points out, I meant to say Hypotenstion not Hypertension.

I was correct in what I first said:
Please be aware that it can have severe interactions with some drugs, particularly those for treating hypertension.

The condition you have is hypertenstion (high blood pressure). The doctor prescribes medication to treat that (lowering it). The combination of those drugs with erectile disfunction medication can cause hypotension (low blood pressure). In some cases dangerously so.

[daviemac]

For goodness sake, I'm confusing myself here. Strike this sentence:I was correct in what I first said:
Please be aware that it can have severe interactions with some drugs, particularly those for treating hypertension.

The condition you have is hypertenstion (high blood pressure). The doctor prescribes medication to treat that (lowering it). The combination of those drugs with erectile disfunction medication can cause hypotension (low blood pressure). In some cases dangerously so.

So you are saying my doctor is wrong to prescribe me with Sildenafil while I'm taking Ramipril to reduce and control blood pressure.

What alternative medication would you recommend I take. Should I stop taking the anticoagulant Dabigatran as well.