Can't understand...

[Ce95]

Hi guys, Im new to punting and even to sex in general, Ive seen 2 ladies so far one of them I saw her twice.
I can't understand why the escorts  show 0 affection like they don't  kiss at all, I mean not french kissing but kissing in general, not on the lips nor even neck and body. How are we supposed to get in the mood of she avoids touching you.
Does it happen elsewhere or is it just me?

[pewpewpew]

It's all a performance. Some girls are good actors and pretend to like you, kissing and cuddling etc. Some don't give a shit and see you as a walking wallet

Of course if you read reviews here first you'll have a better idea of what to expect. If you post reviews too we can all benefit from your bad experiences (and good)

Personally I don't like kissing and cuddling, but lot's of members do and can be an absolute deal breaker for some

[Ce95]

Yeah well to me I need a minimum of affection to get hard.
 I have posted about my experience in the northwest review region last week

[livingalife]

Some do some don’t. Read reviews, look for profiles that offer French kissing, check that it will be available when you make a booking. And make sure your minty fresh and well presented when you turn up. It’s all there if you put the legwork in.

[YorkshireLad]

You either have bad oral hygiene or you're seeing the wrong girls. There's loads out there who will kiss you like you're their boyfriend.

[Ce95]

Hygiene wise I go to extreme lengths in maintaining that! Flossing, mouthwash, I dont eat any food before meeting. So it is definitely something else

[myothernameis]

The most sexy escorts wont do this, or wont do that, however get your self a minger, and your more or less guaranteed some right dirty fun

[Ce95]

The thing is that notjust french kissing they seem like they dont want to kiss at all even not on the mouth!

[slimjim82]

The thing is that notjust french kissing they seem like they dont want to kiss at all even not on the mouth!

You'll soon learn that there are other places to kiss if you want!?

[Jay189]

They do.

You just aren't picking the right ones. A lot do deep french kissing, let alone a peck on the cheek.

[NigelF]

Hi guys, Im new to punting and even to sex in general, Ive seen 2 ladies so far one of them I saw her twice.
I can't understand why the escorts  show 0 affection like they don't  kiss at all, I mean not french kissing but kissing in general, not on the lips nor even neck and body. How are we supposed to get in the mood of she avoids touching you.
Does it happen elsewhere or is it just me?

It's definitely not just you, it happens to me sometimes as well (especially when I'm not choosing girls who are well-reviewed on here). There are however numerous things you can do to reduce the risk. You've made it clear that your general and oral hygiene is on point so that's good. You should also generally stick to girls on AW or at reputable agencies or reputable parlours. Sites such as Vivastreet and backpage are very poor for accurate/honest adverts - particularly the pictures but also the claimed service offerings.

You should also stick to girls who are well reviewed (positively). Definitely check their AW feedback but bear in mind that most/a lot of it is bollocks and even when it's not - it's often impossible to tell. The key is their reviews on here. Reviews on here are much more likely to be honest, accurate and detailed. Check their reviews for them delivering the services you want, e.g. french kissing (FK) and even better deep french kissing (DFK). If you stick to girls who meet your requirements and are well reviewed on here then it's often hard to go wrong.

A final point, you should always explicitly ask them to confirm that they're happy to offer the services you want. They should be under no illusion what you're looking for. Definitely do this beforehand (via text, email or phone) and you can also do it (in a friendly manner) when you arrive too (but I tend not to).

I see you're in the North West so have a look at my reviews for inspiration, many of the girls I've reviewed positively definitely offer DFK.

[myothernameis]

Sometimes it doesn't make sense, the escort wont kiss, but she will either rim or let you cim, to me that slight personal

[Mansell]

The thing is that notjust french kissing they seem like they dont want to kiss at all even not on the mouth!

Simple, your seeing the wrong girls 

[Ce95]

It's definitely not just you, it happens to me sometimes as well (especially when I'm not choosing girls who are well-reviewed on here). There are however numerous things you can do to reduce the risk. You've made it clear that your general and oral hygiene is on point so that's good. You should also generally stick to girls on AW or at reputable agencies or reputable parlours. Sites such as Vivastreet and backpage are very poor for accurate/honest adverts - particularly the pictures but also the claimed service offerings.

You should also stick to girls who are well reviewed (positively). Definitely check their AW feedback but bear in mind that most/a lot of it is bollocks and even when it's not - it's often impossible to tell. The key is their reviews on here. Reviews on here are much more likely to be honest, accurate and detailed. Check their reviews for them delivering the services you want, e.g. french kissing (FK) and even better deep french kissing (DFK). If you stick to girls who meet your requirements and are well reviewed on here then it's often hard to go wrong.

A final point, you should always explicitly ask them to confirm that they're happy to offer the services you want. They should be under no illusion what you're looking for. Definitely do this beforehand (via text, email or phone) and you can also do it (in a friendly manner) when you arrive too (but I tend not to).

I see you're in the North West so have a look at my reviews for inspiration, many of the girls I've reviewed positively definitely offer DFK.

Yep I learned that the hard way, never again other than AW. Yeah Im always checking your reviews lately Honestly the 2 girls I saw Were before I got into this site. Now I feel much more informed and aware of the dos and donts. It just bothered me and my confidence for a while that they didn't go near me. I texted one of them after the meet asking why she did that if there was smthg wrong with me. She said that my hygiene is perfect but she just doesn't kiss clients. I think that they see me as an easy bait, inexperienced in punting and sex so they get to have an easy punt for them since that I didn't know how to negotiate prior to the meet as you said above

[Ce95]

And thanks everyone for your contribution. Yeah I definitely hired the wrong ladies. Never again

[mr boner]

In all my years of punting 20 years on and off i have met 1 girl that did not kiss, and that was a EE girl in a Leicester parlour, so i struggle to understand where you are meeting these girls

[Ce95]

In all my years of punting 20 years on and off i have met 1 girl that did not kiss, and that was a EE girl in a Leicester parlour, so i struggle to understand where you are meeting these girls

Lol well that's what I'm concerned abou! To be honest one after knowing about this forum, one of the girls turned out to have all negative reviews on the site  🤦🏻‍♂️   While the other one I can't seem to understand why she doesnt. Shes on vivastreet no adultwork profile so no reviews here. But she is the type that rushes you out before your time and stuff. Not interested in what shes doing at all. So I might have made horrible choices due to my inexperience and they probably can smell fear and inexperience as soon as you walk in and use it againt you to have the easiest way out of the booking

[Bogof60]

The most sexy escorts wont do this, or wont do that, however get your self a minger, and your more or less guaranteed some right dirty fun

Really

Not my experience at all.
Had some real young stunners who have snogged my face off.
Had some old mingers who will not allow even a peck.
You are booking the wrong women.

[shagmore]

If you check the reviews on here, you will be able to make a valued judgment as punters on here usually tell it as it is, unless its a fluffy,
I like a bit of kissing, something that makes it more like a GFE, if I want to just shoot my load I will save myself money and get Mrs Palm and her 5 daughters in on the act.
When you do your search on AW for your area, put DFK or kissing in the extra search criteria, then cross reference with UKP
 

[bitofanovice]

I’ve learned the hard way

AWank reviews cannot be trusted.

Find a girl on AW by all means; but a quick search on here or google will give you a far more accurate insight of who you will be meeting and the services that will be made available as both standard and extra

Just as long as you remember it is a performance dependent on the size of your wallet !!!!

[mr boner]

Another good way of getting just what you want is to do some reverse bookings on adult work, you can specify a price, a location and the service you want, that way you are certain of getting kissing in the mix

[Ce95]

I like a bit of kissing, something that makes it more like a GFE, if I want to just shoot my load I will save myself money and get Mrs Palm and her 5 daughters in on the act.
 

Loool just my thoughts after leaving, unsatisfied and thinking my hand can do a better job than this

[Ce95]

Concerning the performance depends on the wallet, I paid 120/hr which is not considered high class escorts but yet not cheap.

Might try the reverse booking thing but being new and having zero feedback might not help

[pewpewpew]

Another good way of getting just what you want is to do some reverse bookings on adult work, you can specify a price, a location and the service you want, that way you are certain of getting kissing in the mix

I've never tried a reverse booking but from what I've read on here girls will message you without even reading what you want. If you specify CIM you'll get 10 girls reply who don't do OWO let alone CIM, 1 or 2 ladyboys too

[king tarzan]

I do manage very easily may I add find honeys to super honeys that do deep tongue wrestling kissing. .
( yes even the notorious romanian /brazilian )
I always make sure I am 100% clean all over and wear fresh strong cologne and deodorants. . ( believe me makes a lot of difference )
Also I talk and act respectful around the honeys to super honeys ( hard to believe for a lot on here) and charming with words..

And on the other side of the coin last week when I went to see natural aga in dalston on the train about a few stops away this man got on the train leather jacket hat on bag trainers but THE FUCKEN BASTARD ABSOLUTELY FUCKEN STUNK and he sat next to me..
I had to get up and sit several seat away..

If someone comes in fucken stinking / rude THE ESCORT HAS EVERY RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICES 100%
OWO/DFK/ or what ever else she wants to refuse..

[two20]

On my very first punt she opened the door in the usual WG way, but once inside planted the biggest French kiss on me I had in years. I knew from that moment this is a great hobby. I guess Ive been lucky and haven’t seen any that don’t kiss

[NigelF]

On my very first punt she opened the door in the usual WG way, but once inside planted the biggest French kiss on me I had in years. I knew from that moment this is a great hobby. I guess Ive been lucky and haven’t seen any that don’t kiss

You haven't seen anyone according to your review count!

[Old Spice]

Might try the reverse booking thing but being new and having zero feedback might not help

My advice for a newbie. Search on AW, only book if they have positive reviews on UKP, and avoid Romanians.
Other than that, most good independents enjoy kissing.

Reverse bookings bring out a huge mixed bag of possibilities. Some are fabulous at a good price, some are absolute nutters. And it is not always easy to tell the difference.
In my opinion I would suggest avoiding a reverse booking until you have a bit more experience of reading the signs. A reverse booking does seem to attract a number of cranks.

[GeorgeForeman]

Most of the better escorts do FK and even DFK. Some of these profiles even mention kissing as an specific activity which the woman enjoys.
These are definitely the ones to see because it makes, certainly for me anyway, the whole experience so much better. Without it I would struggle to get and stay hard !

[nten]

The more you do it the more confident you'll get asking for what you want. I used to think it was the girl who decided what happens, now I know it's a business transaction and it's alright to discuss the deal that suits you both.

[Ce95]

I do manage very easily may I add find honeys to super honeys that do deep tongue wrestling kissing. .
( yes even the notorious romanian /brazilian )
I always make sure I am 100% clean all over and wear fresh strong cologne and deodorants. . ( believe me makes a lot of difference )
Also I talk and act respectful around the honeys to super honeys ( hard to believe for a lot on here) and charming with words..

And on the other side of the coin last week when I went to see natural aga in dalston on the train about a few stops away this man got on the train leather jacket hat on bag trainers but THE FUCKEN BASTARD ABSOLUTELY FUCKEN STUNK and he sat next to me..
I had to get up and sit several seat away..

If someone comes in fucken stinking / rude THE ESCORT HAS EVERY RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICES 100%
OWO/DFK/ or what ever else she wants to refuse..

In terms of hygiene I am 100% sure that's not problem. I shower right before I exit the house, I made sure I am well dressed. dont walk to her place eventhough it's just a 10 min walk I take taxi so I wont get sweaty walking. Perfume everywhere where shes not kissing. Oral hygiene top notch , I floss daily and use mouthwash. So unless I'm forgetting something thats not the problem for sure.

[NigelF]

My advice for a newbie. Search on AW, only book if they have positive reviews on UKP, and avoid Romanians.
Other than that, most good independents enjoy kissing.

Reverse bookings bring out a huge mixed bag of possibilities. Some are fabulous at a good price, some are absolute nutters. And it is not always easy to tell the difference.
In my opinion I would suggest avoiding a reverse booking until you have a bit more experience of reading the signs. A reverse booking does seem to attract a number of cranks.

+1

In terms of hygiene I am 100% sure that's not problem. I shower right before I exit the house, I made sure I am well dressed. dont walk to her place eventhough it's just a 10 min walk I take taxi so I wont get sweaty walking. Perfume everywhere where shes not kissing. Oral hygiene top notch , I floss daily and use mouthwash. So unless I'm forgetting something thats not the problem for sure.

I definitely think your hygiene sounds fine and I imagine the WG you asked would have said so via text if it wasn't. Just a point about the fragrance - you clearly know where not to spray but I'd also caution you about spraying too much. If you use body sprays (such as Lynx) then do use it sparingly because given that they'll be so close to you they will definitely smell it and if it's too strong then that's gonna put them off. I'd also advise choosing something a bit more upmarket (designer) so you don't smell like a teenager or a pleb. As King Tarzan has suggested, fresh/clean scents are the safest bets (although some sweet/spicy scents will get you great reactions/compliments) but whatever you do, don't over-spray. You usually only need 2 sprays maximum and some strong fragrances only need 1 (or 2 half sprays). If you want recommendations (that almost always get compliments) then feel free to PM me (or ask here and I'll try not to derail the thread).

Having said all that, fragrances are definitely unnecessary and it's only cleanliness that's a must (as well as deodorant if you're not going to shower at their place). 

Anyway, you don't need to keep replying to this thread, as others have suggested, just get out there, choose carefully and get some more experience. Once you've done so (and put up the reviews) I imagine you'll look back and laugh at this thread. If you don't then we'll still be here to dissect what's gone wrong.

[nten]

Sometimes kissing isn't all that. There used to be an Australian in Leicester called Tessa who was a brilliant fun but insisted on loads of kissing after the event. I just wanted to leave. I felt bad because she was so nice.

[bigmanbigman]

Best check reviews here normal give a good idear of wg  if few punters say same thing .

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Suggest you avoid Romanians in my 'umble experience they don't know what kissing is. Most of them with rare exception are touch avoid sensitive ie no kissing apart from a peck on the cheek and no fingering either.

[Plan R]

Sometimes it doesn't make sense, the escort wont kiss, but she will either rim or let you cim, to me that slight personal

Yeah I've had this..reluctant to kiss deeply, but quite happy to rim you for an hour then swallow..
Hos be crazy
 

[king tarzan]

Sometimes kissing isn't all that. There used to be an Australian in Leicester called Tessa who was a brilliant fun but insisted on loads of kissing after the event. I just wanted to leave. I felt bad because she was so nice.

Are you serious?
You must be kidding right?

Kissing to me is the most important starting point of the punt..
The intimacy lever produced by heavy lip touching tongue grappling saliva swapping YUMMY YUM YUM YABA DABA DOO! !😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😁😁😁😁

100%extremely important! !

Reminds me when I was short of cash and needed to get to cashpoint and asked the super honey for an incentive kiss to get me back and she giggled and let me have about 30 seconds off dfk!
Another time I got to the brothel and the lady told me she can't see me for at least another 30 mins so told me to come back I asked her for an incentive snog and she just laughed and then we had dfk for about 20 to 30 seconds as an appetiser. ..
Yummy yum yum yaba daba doo! !

Kissing is extremely important! !

When the door opens I just grab Sophia_lawrence for a very heavy helping of dfk
Indulged with instant dior open dfk with just amelia too
Sophia_lawrence and alana love 69 grabbed me as I was leaving there respective premises shoved there tongues down my mouth yummy yum yum yaba daba doo for intense dfk gor a minute or two!!

[EnglishRebecca121]

 

Are you serious?
You must be kidding right?

Kissing to me is the most important starting point of the punt..
The intimacy lever produced by heavy lip touching tongue grappling saliva swapping YUMMY YUM YUM YABA DABA DOO! !😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😁😁😁😁

100%extremely important! !


 
Reminds me when I was short of cash and needed to get to cashpoint and asked the super honey for an incentive kiss to get me back and she giggled and let me have about 30 seconds off dfk!
Another time I got to the brothel and the lady told me she can't see me for at least another 30 mins so told me to come back I asked her for an incentive snog and she just laughed and then we had dfk for about 20 to 30 seconds as an appetiser. ..
Yummy yum yum yaba daba doo! !

Kissing is extremely important! !

When the door opens I just grab Sophia_lawrence for a very heavy helping of dfk
Indulged with instant dior open dfk with just amelia too
Sophia_lawrence and alana love 69 grabbed me as I was leaving there respective premises shoved there tongues down my mouth yummy yum yum yaba daba doo for intense dfk gor a minute or two!!

[HarryZZ]

Thinking back to the old days behind the school bike sheds, some girls were good looking and crap kissers, the lass I fancied most at school was a complete let down when I eventually got to tonsil tennis, scraping teeth like I've never even experienced it the 45 years since, some are light kissers and some heavy, I'm pretty sure females will think the same about males. I had a punt in France and she nearly choked me with her tongue which was strangely erotic when I got used to it, others are very reluctant but as I'm in my 50s I wouldn't have wanted some old granny tonguing me when I was in my 20s, but there are plenty of decent kissers out there, you've just been unlucky.

[Jay189]

Are you serious?
You must be kidding right?

Kissing to me is the most important starting point of the punt..
The intimacy lever produced by heavy lip touching tongue grappling saliva swapping YUMMY YUM YUM YABA DABA DOO! !😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😁😁😁😁

100%extremely important! !

Reminds me when I was short of cash and needed to get to cashpoint and asked the super honey for an incentive kiss to get me back and she giggled and let me have about 30 seconds off dfk!
Another time I got to the brothel and the lady told me she can't see me for at least another 30 mins so told me to come back I asked her for an incentive snog and she just laughed and then we had dfk for about 20 to 30 seconds as an appetiser. ..
Yummy yum yum yaba daba doo! !

Kissing is extremely important! !

When the door opens I just grab Sophia_lawrence for a very heavy helping of dfk
Indulged with instant dior open dfk with just amelia too
Sophia_lawrence and alana love 69 grabbed me as I was leaving there respective premises shoved there tongues down my mouth yummy yum yum yaba daba doo for intense dfk gor a minute or two!!

wtf?