Deposit

[pixlmixgabriel]

So I stupidly sent someone £200 to help out with their holiday before the meet, rookie mistake I know I shouldn't have done it, they cancelled the meet and now they're refusing to send my money back and have blocked me etc. I have their name and address, can I report them to the ploice? Can I contact my bank? Will I get in trouble?

[kingmg]

contact the police since you have all their details

[pixlmixgabriel]

Will I get in trouble though?

[Vice Admiral]

Will I get in trouble though?

You wouldn't get into trouble.  However the chances of your getting your money back through contacting the police are (in my opinion) so low as to be statistically insignificant.  On the other hand, awkwardness and embarrassment are guaranteed.

Your bank could help only if, for example, your debit card had been fraudulently used.  They won't refund money that you sent voluntarily.

I have myself had unwelcome financial losses on several occasions over the many years I've been a regular visitor to Hookersville, although in my case they have arisen from my getting too closely involved in the lives of personable young women without much of a moral compass.  (It has to be admitted, however, that their – and my – lack of a moral compass was the reason we got to know each other in the first place...) 

Infuriating though it is to be robbed in one way or another, the sensible thing is to put it down to experience and try to move on.

[Ghost89]

Not at all. They however have obtained money by deception. You should post the link so we know who it is though.

[pixlmixgabriel]

Ik I'm gonna get judged for the barebacking thing but I thought fuck it because she's fit and as long as I used a condom I'd be fine

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[dexpunt]

I agree. A meeting was arranged and she stole your money. She will do it again so I believe you should be able to write a review letting everyone know the kind of person she is and to help from anyone else falling foul.

I guess the real moral of the story is NEVER pay a deposit. 99% of WGs dont ask for anything so alarm bells ring when I hear of it

[daviemac]

Ik I'm gonna get judged for the barebacking thing but I thought fuck it because she's fit and as long as I used a condom I'd be fine

If you had an agreed booking then a review can be left.

Regarding the money, how did you pay it, was it a bank transfer if so the reason you gave your bank for the transfer will affect whether or not you have any chance of getting your money back. I hope you put 'paying for a service'.

Reporting it to the police can't do any harm and it would be even better if you get an incident number.

[pixlmixgabriel]

I didn't put anything for the reference, I've contacted the police so we'll see what happens

[dexpunt]

I didn't put anything for the reference, I've contacted the police so we'll see what happens

Congrats for contacting the police. It is best in the long run as it covers your back. Its a bit embarrassing but they handle it professionally

[Stevelondon]

Did I read that right. Is the OP saying this SP is fit.

Jeez.

[daviemac]

Did I read that right. Is the OP saying this SP is fit.

Jeez.

It would be a funny world if we all liked the same things, not to mention how hard it would be for us to get bookings with only the type of escort that you say is attractive to choose.

[tynetunnel]

Never EVER pay anything upfront unless you can afford to lose it 

[scutty brown]

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I'm sure we've had problems with them before

[alabama1]

Never EVER pay anything upfront unless you can afford to lose it 

If we can afford the punt, then we can all afford to lose the deposit. Just because we can, doesn't mean we should though.

[Stevelondon]

It would be a funny world if we all liked the same things, not to mention how hard it would be for us to get bookings with only the type of escort that you say is attractive to choose.

Absolutely right Davie. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder and of course we all have different tastes.
Personally speaking I don’t find it all that difficult getting bookings with SP’s I find attractive.
I tend not to try and get bookings with the ones I don’t find attractive.

[daviemac]

Absolutely right Davie. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder and of course we all have different tastes.
Personally speaking I don’t find it all that difficult getting bookings with SP’s I find attractive.
I tend not to try and get bookings with the ones I don’t find attractive.

I'm struggling to understand what your opinion of the escort's looks or the OP's taste has to do with the subject of this thread, him getting ripped off.   

[smiths]

As i have posted since i joined UKP NEVER give a WG deposit because getting it back may be impossible.

So in my case i wouldnt get into a scenario where a desposit is in the mix.

[Webby581]

With regard to the SP's "moral compass", I note that in the background of at least 1 of her gallery photos there is a portrait of a child that I feel is reasonable to assume is her son!

Just Wrong!!! 

[JontyR]

With regard to the SP's "moral compass", I note that in the background of at least 1 of her gallery photos there is a portrait of a child that I feel is reasonable to assume is her son!

Just Wrong!!! 

Yep, I noticed that.

I also can only assume from the photos that the deposit is funding her holiday to Greggs.

[mr.bluesky]

Yep, I noticed that.

I also can only assume from the photos that the deposit is funding her holiday to Greggs.

  classic. The op would have been better off spending his £200 at specsavers than sending it to a barebacking skank.

[Stevelondon]

I'm struggling to understand what your opinion of the escort's looks or the OP's taste has to do with the subject of this thread, him getting ripped off.   

I passed a sarcastic comment concerning the SP’s look.
As such that is all that it was.

Would be very boring if we all the same and posted everything similarly.
Am I being overly different here.

As for the subject of the OP. I think he has done the right thing in bringing this deposit theft (if that’s what it is) to our attention and saying who the SP. Is.

[daviemac]

I passed a sarcastic comment concerning the SP’s look.
As such that is all that it was.

Would be very boring if we all the same and posted everything similarly.
Am I being overly different here.

As for the subject of the OP. I think he has done the right thing in bringing this deposit theft (if that’s what it is) to our attention and saying who the SP. Is.

The OP is a new member and despite reservations about the reaction he might get due to the fact she has bareback (but not unprotected sex) listed, has brought this scammer to our attention, this is something we should be encouraging and ridiculing his taste in women is hardly going to do that, in fact it is more likely to put other new members off reporting such things.

This comment applies to others who have made similar pointless comments.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

This is a commercial dispute so you can make a claim using this link

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[Munter84]

The (expensive) lesson here is to never, ever send deposits.

Legally I'm not sure where you would stand here - you could make her life a bit difficult by taking her to court but what's to stop her claiming it was a gift?

You've done the right thing in naming and shaming, but not sure you could reasonably do much more here.

[Stevelondon]

The OP is a new member and despite reservations about the reaction he might get due to the fact she has bareback (but not unprotected sex) listed, has brought this scammer to our attention, this is something we should be encouraging and ridiculing his taste in women is hardly going to do that, in fact it is more likely to put other new members off reporting such things.

This comment applies to others who have made similar pointless comments.

Again your right of course. Partly.
We have a whole thread dedicated to ridiculing those escorts who may or may not be as the case may be…..unattractive.
Your point is made and I respect it.

My point is I simply passed a sarky comment that was far removed from ridicule.

[Mr Sinister]

. I have their name and address, can I report them to the ploice? Can I contact my bank? Will I get in trouble?

Do all that you can to try get your money back however consider it lost. There's been many threads on here about deposits so not sure why you thought it would be a good idea to send a prossie you don't know £200 let alone £1. Did you honestly think something good was going to come from it?

There's more for her to gain and for you to lose. 9.9 times out of 10

[tynetunnel]

If we can afford the punt, then we can all afford to lose the deposit. Just because we can, doesn't mean we should though.

I disagree. I can afford the punt but not to lose the deposit. Loss of deposit would mean I can no longer afford the punt that I haven’t yet had.

[Vice Admiral]

Your bank could help only if, for example, your debit card had been fraudulently used.  They won't refund money that you sent voluntarily.

I may be wrong in having been so categorical here – for I have just seen this post from LFBC69 (6 July) on the thread about the Seeking website:

"She arrived, must admit - looked amazing. Asked for us to go straight up to my room, asked if we could order food, and then brought up the subject of money. Sent the agreed £250 via bank transfer.  ...  Turned my back to hear her say she’ll not be a minute and left the room. Need I say more? To say I feel an absolute FOOL is an understatement! Want to ensure no one else falls for her scamming ways! ... Rang bank - my deposit is being removed from her available balance and she’ll be notified and given 28 days to prove it shouldn’t be permanently deducted and returned to me."

Interesting.

Would all banks be as accommodating as this?  I don't know.  Also I suspect that a bank might need to be contacted very promptly, before the transfer is set in stone. 

[Stevelondon]

I may be wrong in having been so categorical here – for I have just seen this post from LFBC69 (6 July) on the thread about the Seeking website:

"She arrived, must admit - looked amazing. Asked for us to go straight up to my room, asked if we could order food, and then brought up the subject of money. Sent the agreed £250 via bank transfer.  ...  Turned my back to hear her say she’ll not be a minute and left the room. Need I say more? To say I feel an absolute FOOL is an understatement! Want to ensure no one else falls for her scamming ways! ... Rang bank - my deposit is being removed from her available balance and she’ll be notified and given 28 days to prove it shouldn’t be permanently deducted and returned to me."

Interesting.

Would all banks be as accommodating as this?  I don't know.  Also I suspect that a bank might need to be contacted very promptly, before the transfer is set in stone.

Plus contacting the police might be advisable if even just to see if this woman has done it before.
Not sure for something like this that they would actively get involved though.
I think women like this probably rely on the assumption the punter will not make a fuss because of the sexual circumstances.
Leaves a nasty taste as far as I am concerned.

[s0whatsnew?]

So I stupidly sent someone £200 to help out with their holiday before the meet, rookie mistake I know I shouldn't have done it, they cancelled the meet and now they're refusing to send my money back and have blocked me etc. I have their name and address, can I report them to the ploice? Can I contact my bank? Will I get in trouble?

Your own bank won't help since you sent the money voluntarily.  But if you explain the circumstances to HER bank there's just a chance they might help.  You have the evidence in the email exchange between you and her; her holiday, meeting arranged, meeting cancelled, etc.  Then, tell her that you've notified her bank and that you intend going to the small claims court and involving her bank.  The combined threat of both these really should make her reconsider.  Of course you have to take the hassle of outing yourself in public.  Its a risk but i'd say worth it.

[Stevelondon]

I thought I might just add something else as someone mentioned this being a deposit.
I’m not sure the OP said that.
I think he said it was simply a case of him sending the money to help her out for an upcoming holiday.

In an argument that might make a difference. Voluntary gift or deposit for a service.

[daviemac]

I thought I might just add something else as someone mentioned this being a deposit.
I’m not sure the OP said that.
I think he said it was simply a case of him sending the money to help her out for an upcoming holiday.

In an argument that might make a difference. Voluntary gift or deposit for a service.

She asked him for a £50 deposit because he'd cancelled a previous meeting, after he sent that she said she had a holiday to pay for so he sent another £150 which was the remainder of the fee.

So I started talking to her and arranged to meet, she seemed okay and genuine. She asked me for a £50 deposit as I had to cancel the meet beforehand because my car broke, then she said she had to pay for a holiday so I thought fuck it, she seems genuine so I'll offer to send her the rest. Sent her another £150, she cancelled the meet yesterday and offered to pay me back, sent her my details, blocked, no money back

[Stevelondon]

She asked him for a £50 deposit because he'd cancelled a previous meeting, after he sent that she said she had a holiday to pay for so he sent another £150 which was the remainder of the fee.

Once again it’s in his wording.
“I’ll offer to send her the rest”

Sadly this may be a hard learned lesson for someone new to the game.

[daviemac]

Once again it’s in his wording.
“I’ll offer to send her the rest”

Sadly this may be a hard learned lesson for someone new to the game.

It isn't in the wording it's in your head, everyone else understands that he sent the money to pay for the booking in advance, so he didn't offer to pay for her holiday he offered to pay in advance for the booking.

At no point did he offer to give her money without expecting a booking in return.

[Stevelondon]

Of course it’s in my head. I find it easier to think with my head.
Is it a fact everyone on here thinks he paid a deposit for a booking. Or is that an assumption of yours Davie.
As Waterhouse says on the review thread. Paying £200 up front is hardly a deposit is it.

Everything is always in the wording wether you think so or not and in an argument in getting a refund. Will be  picked over and scrutinised.

I’m on the OP side here. It’s a despicable thing for this SP to have cancelled his booking and to have refused to give him his money back.
What I’m getting at is the difficulties involved in him getting anything from this other than the knowledge not to do anything similarly again.

By all means have the last word Davie I think I’ve done with this particular difference of opinion.

[daviemac]

Of course it’s in my head. I find it easier to think with my head.
Is it a fact everyone on here thinks he paid a deposit for a booking. Or is that an assumption of yours Davie.
As Waterhouse says on the review thread. Paying £200 up front is hardly a deposit is it.

Everything is always in the wording wether you think so or not and in an argument in getting a refund. Will be  picked over and scrutinised.

I’m on the OP side here. It’s a despicable thing for this SP to have cancelled his booking and to have refused to give him his money back.
What I’m getting at is the difficulties involved in him getting anything from this other than the knowledge not to do anything similarly again.

By all means have the last word Davie I think I’ve done with this particular difference of opinion.

Give it a rest, you are claiming he paid for her holiday and that is not the case, what she did with the booking fee he paid in advance in irrelevant.

He paid a deposit of £50, he then paid the rest of the booking fee which was £150., I'm sure the OP will correct me if I'm wrong but as I read it at no stage did he say "here's some money to pay for your holiday" as against "here's the rest of the booking fee".

You are quite entitled to think differently but as this whole debate with you started with you derailing the thread with your opinion of the escort's looks and the OP's taste, as a mod I am telling you enough is enough.

The ethos of the site now is to give help and guidance to new members in order to encourage them to be valuable members and your comments and claims that he 'sent her a gift' (which would mean he would have to pay the booking fee again) do nothing to achieve this.

[smiths]

I dont care about the ins and outs of it, all that matters here to me is the OP says he sent her £200 which he has lost, at least at present. I hope other punters tempted to pay WGs deposits or any other money not on the day of the punt stops and doesnt do so.

DO NOT pay WGs DEPOSITS because by doing so you may well not get the money back if she fucks you over. Punting ISNT like doing business with people in shops, or other legit companies., and i know punting isnt illegal except for certain things. But it IS unregulated from the point of view of having a set in place complaints procedure to get money back. Daviemac i am sure can put me right if things have now changed but a punter couldnt even take a WG to a civil court as the transaction was classed as an immoral contract and thus something a punter couldnt do. As i say maybe that has changed now. But even if it has how many punters would want the hassle i wonder, i wouldnt for one. So i only pay WGs in cash on the day of the punt and avoid that happening.

NO WG who i have ever seen is worth pay me paying a deposit to, but then i only punt locally and very few ask for one. Those that have i lose interest in however good a rep on here they may have. I once read of a very long established great WG years ago on another forum who started to keep punters deposits and not long adterwards her profile was gone as was she. I assume she saw this fucking punters over as her nest egg. This is how devious some WGs can be.