Why do some Escorts offer bareback sex?

[rustpoacher]

In answer to the original question I would suggest the answer may be that they really aren’t very good at there jobs, so in order to boost business they go for the nuclear option to stop there phones becoming dusty

Certainly correct but let us not forget the nymphomaniac or keen WG who craves bareback as much as some punters. Sometimes, they believe they are clean and safe and perhaps they are safe with frequent washing and/or advanced STD knowledge but also because they do not see too many clients or feel good at rejecting high risk clients etc.? For instance HIV virus: "HIV is very fragile, and many common substances, including hot water, soap, bleach and alcohol, will kill it. Air does not "kill" HIV, but exposure to air dries the fluid that contained the virus, and that will destroy or break up much of the virus very quickly" which is why it travels well with anal 'fissure' sex but perhaps some WGs feel they can simply wash frequently?

When a regular WG [who has superb sex skills] put me inside her without a condom, I felt too rude to refuse (like some GF on contraception are insulted  [or [rightly] suspicious when 'you' choose to use a condom) but I turned to use her from behind and surreptitiously slipped on a Jap NOSKIN which WG didnt notice then as soon as done I washed with alcohol and soap & got tested- all clear.

[finn5555]

I think not. I'm guessing the guys who seek bareback aren't that picky

My guess is they are purely seeking bareback sex and don’t have any quality control over looks or what she may offer with regards to other services

[vw]

I think not. I'm guessing the guys who seek bareback aren't that picky, while regular punters may be looking for a specific type.

Reading reviews identifies that lots of non barebackers are not picky too. 

[SlamBoy]

. . . Do punters want to know about this without me being banned?

 . . . I have had 3 bareback offers from regular WG, none of which I feel are a health risk.

To be fair to the the lads on UKP, I posted a new topic all about my dilemma in deciding whether I should accept BB from a regular SP who I do not consider to be a risk - (i) no one suggested I be banned, (ii) when I refused to reveal who it was (for her discretion and not outing myself) I was not hounded for it, and (iii) contrary to what I thought might be the case, almost all UKPs engaged constructively with the issue.

It might be a bit rough and tumble on here at times, but I firmly believe this has been an issue for a lot of punters on here (whether they admit it or not) - and we are all human - so when there is a real discussion to be had, the forum is actually quite supportive even on such an emotive subject.

[rustpoacher]

Can anyone tell me why so many bareback WG have popped up recently? a handful registered on same day
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[rustpoacher]

To answer my own question: fake AW profiles are used to build up fake +ve reviews and/or PG scams. 99% people are happy to steal from their neighbours after all the establishment pillars of society do the same.
Anything that can be scammed :-( like farming game assets.
I feel like the naive 1% twat who never goes out to cheat anyone.

[Digby232]

Even if they don’t advertise it most wg  I guess would have barebacked a few men. Why are so many men against girls who offer bareback?If you wear a condom you are very safe. Just because she doesn’t advertise it doesn’t mean she doesn’t do it but we kid ourselves she doesn’t.

[cueball]

Why are so many men against girls who offer bareback?If you wear a condom you are very safe.

You're quite right about the condom but any lass that offers bb has no standards imo, she'll suck a manky cock, she'll ride a festering sore and swallow a load that's green & red. Exaggeration maybe but that's the kind of thought process I use.

I want to snog and owo, so i want lasses that have an idea of what is ok and what is not. In my mind, any lass that offers bb is either not bothered because she's already carrying infections or is a bug chaser, either way, they're not for me.

Punting isn't for the squeamish but there's a limit to the risks I'll take and bb tells me much more about the lass than just the bb offer.

I don't want to leave with more than I arrived with. 

[Waterhouse]

You're quite right about the condom but any lass that offers bb has no standards imo, she'll suck a manky cock, she'll ride a festering sore and swallow a load that's green & red. Exaggeration maybe but that's the kind of thought process I use.

I want to snog and owo, so i want lasses that have an idea of what is ok and what is not. In my mind, any lass that offers bb is either not bothered because she's already carrying infections or is a bug chaser, either way, they're not for me.

Punting isn't for the squeamish but there's a limit to the risks I'll take and bb tells me much more about the lass than just the bb offer.

I don't want to leave with more than I arrived with. 

Spot on.

Any WG who engages in BB has no standards and could care less about herself or her clients.  Definitely not someone who I would want to arrange a meet with. 

[Rome66]

Am really just fbsm , to the degree my shadow troll accused me of being "obsessed" , but the thread title was interesting.  Havnt taken a risk probably since my teens with regards keeping it covered.

Would a prostitute have any legal recourse if a punter got her pregnant ? Like child support for 18years ?

[daviemac]

Even if they don’t advertise it most wg  I guess would have barebacked a few men. Why are so many men against girls who offer bareback?If you wear a condom you are very safe. Just because she doesn’t advertise it doesn’t mean she doesn’t do it but we kid ourselves she doesn’t.

The way I look at it is a lass who barebacks all comers is far more likely to have something than one who, in the main, practices safe sex. If I have sexual contact with someone who has something that chances of me catching it are infinitely higher than my having sexual contact with someone who hasn't, regardless of how well you think you're protected. That and the points CB has raised means I avoid them like the plague.

[stampjones]

The way I look at it is a lass who barebacks all comers is far more likely to have something than one who, in the main, practices safe sex. If I have sexual contact with someone who has something that chances of me catching it are infinitely higher than my having sexual contact with someone who hasn't, regardless of how well you think you're protected. That and the points CB has raised means I avoid them like the plague.

+1
Its not exactly rocket science

[SlamBoy]

Would a prostitute have any legal recourse if a punter got her pregnant ? Like child support for 18years ?

Yes. You play, you pay.

[wannabe]

... I avoid them like the plague.

Very apt phrase.

[holeymoley]

Am I the only person reading this who struggles to understand why the risks of catching something when indulging in Oral sex and/or rubbing genitals together does not present the same risk as bb.

Am I naive ? surely the exchange of bodily fluids is a similar risk ?, whilst I don’t indulge in bb, I am always conscious without being paranoid, that I am at some risk with the owl etc., that’s why I get tested and took the option of the jab.

Any thoughts guys ?

[Hungarian Lover]

We are already running the risk of catching an STI by punting in the first place, you can catch some thing by kissing, genital contact, OWO so BB is just one more risk. I wonder how many blokes would be tempted to have BB sex with a girl if they had gone for a punt with a girl who didn't advertise BB on her site or maybe was a regular? I've not been faced with that temptation so far but the more women you see I guess it could happen and how many blokes on here have done BB but just don't advertise that fact for fear of being castigated?

[Rochelle]

Am I the only person reading this who struggles to understand why the risks of catching something when indulging in Oral sex and/or rubbing genitals together does not present the same risk as bb.

Am I naive ? surely the exchange of bodily fluids is a similar risk ?, whilst I don’t indulge in bb, I am always conscious without being paranoid, that I am at some risk with the owl etc., that’s why I get tested and took the option of the jab.

Any thoughts guys ?

Maybe do some research?
Also, you shouldn't be rubbing genitals together.

[Marcusnash187]

Because sergie makes them. 

[hardrock89]

I hate it when i see beautiful girl fency her saw bb listed,bb girls are not my cup of tea

[fisherofsouls]

Am I the only person reading this who struggles to understand why the risks of catching something when indulging in Oral sex and/or rubbing genitals together does not present the same risk as bb.

Am I naive ? surely the exchange of bodily fluids is a similar risk ?, whilst I don’t indulge in bb, I am always conscious without being paranoid, that I am at some risk with the owl etc., that’s why I get tested and took the option of the jab.

Any thoughts guys ?

Too right ! Vicious little buggers, owls

[Buttons]

Too right ! Vicious little buggers, owls

You really don’t want a dose of avian flu. Imagine explaining that to her in doors 

[fredfunkster]

Responding to OP: I too have noticed more BB offerings lately.

Regrettably, as this is a market, an increase in supply probably equates to a commensurate increase in demand.

I.e. thick twats paying for it. 

[myothernameis]

Even if they don’t advertise it most wg  I guess would have barebacked a few men. Why are so many men against girls who offer bareback?If you wear a condom you are very safe. Just because she doesn’t advertise it doesn’t mean she doesn’t do it but we kid ourselves she doesn’t.

An escort I used to see in the mid 80's, and around this time I was around 28 years old, we quiet regularly had unprotected sex, now I cant speak if she done this with other guys, but she would she plenty of punters, and guess they had safe sex

When it comes to forums like ukp, and others around this time, very little was posted, and even if there was anything, I believe they would be low profile

And as  a youth, it never really crossed my mind, how risky this could be

There was another escort I was seeing, she also offered unprotected sex, but I turned her down, not because of the sex, but rathere the rumours, that she was on drugs

[Lelouch]

I do wonder, the SPs and punters who regularly engage in bb sex how often they catch something. Surely after a couple of painful episodes of painful piss or blistering sores that would put them off and therefore diminish the whole supply demand ratio?

[the_exile]

I suppose it is like everything else where there are people wanting it someone else will be offering.

Think those AIDS warnings on TV back in the 80s had me convinced that fuck without a condom and I would get ill and die. So I have always used condoms apart from a long term relationship. Yes it feels nicer without but IMHO that is for partners/girlfriends and I would always use a condom for a one-nighter or a prostitute.

[Bear71]

I was reckless for years going bb with prossies all over Blackpool then having sex with my then wife and  colleague. I look back and shudder at my stupidity. Thankfully I stopped and when I took hiv test it came back negative

[David Semen]

Interesting one this. Because if you look at AW some guys who go with barebackers also go with women who say they would never BB. Yet they go with punters who have barebacked.  Look at the stuff on mudpug/purplediva/dolls uk you name it, or sevdaslave….got some shit reviews on UKP but punters who go with them go with girls who say they don't bareback.  So next question is 'how safe is that condom?'

[Jas1975]

Because, sadly, there's a market for it.

I can not understand why a person would risk death or serious harm from an STD in this way?!!?  And pay for it too (let alone the risk of becoming a daddy!).

[Newtothisstuff]

I was emailing a new(ish) girl a year or so back. Absolutely fantastic figure. She pretty much ticked every box I had. 23-25 age group and she looked stunning. The only trouble I had was that her comms were rubbish. Then it all hit the fan. Someone wrote a post on a site dedicated to people who prefer not to use condoms..... then lots of others joined in. It turned out she was barebacking punters. Most of them if the posts were to be believed.
Gutted!  She had the potential to be very busy and make a fortune. Now.... she has the potential to give you any one of a number of diseases.
Before.... I'd assumed that the girls who offered bareback did it because they just didn't have the looks or ability to make it otherwise. It turned out, this girl just liked it better so to hell with the danger.
Death comes to us all.... but he doesn't cum in a condom.

[mr.bluesky]

I wasn't. In the early 80's I was playing Pac-Man and wanking over Page 3. 

Not at the same time I hope.

[king tarzan]

I can not understand why a person would risk death or serious harm from an STD in this way?!!?  And pay for it too (let alone the risk of becoming a daddy!).

They're all fucked up in the head the lot of them!!

Super simpletto!!

[sparkus]

The only time I've ever wondered about this was 10 years ago when there was a filthy British MILF on AW who mentioned on her profile that it was available "for regulars".  I suppose if she'd built up some kind of rapport or relationship with a set of punters then it lured her into a misguided sense of confidence?

Anyhow, I was gutted when the profile disappeared but to my shame I was going to have a go on it.

Thinking back to that era, why did I also do it protected with a WG who'd clearly not had time to clean/shower after her last client (as I'd seen them leave and the maid then called me to say they was free)? There's no fucking way I would now.

[Neptune]

Anyone know the statistics.
Likelihood of contracting a STI from oral
Likelihood of contracting a STI from unprotected sex.
Is it extremely risky?
Most likely to contract ghoneria or chlamidia?
HIV is contracted through bodily fluids entering the blood system which is why unprotected Anal sex is very risky as the act can cause rupture of blood vessels in the rectum/Anus.
Are there evidence based facts around?

[holeymoley]

Anyone know the statistics.
Likelihood of contracting a STI from oral
Likelihood of contracting a STI from unprotected sex.
Is it extremely risky?
Most likely to contract ghoneria or chlamidia?
HIV is contracted through bodily fluids entering the blood system which is why unprotected Anal sex is very risky as the act can cause rupture of blood vessels in the rectum/Anus.
Are there evidence based facts around?

Checkout  posts by Tailseeker who seems to have lots of info, also Doc Holiday too, think it’s the West Yorkshire thread.   FWIW my GUM clinic, they don’t give me stats but they tell me that other than unprotected sex, virtually everything else is low risk, they seem very laid back. They give me the impression Hepatitis is the main risk so I got the injections.  NB they say  “ low risk “. NOT NO RISK.

[Malvolio]

Anyone know the statistics.
Likelihood of contracting a STI from oral
Likelihood of contracting a STI from unprotected sex.
Is it extremely risky?
Most likely to contract ghoneria or chlamidia?
HIV is contracted through bodily fluids entering the blood system which is why unprotected Anal sex is very risky as the act can cause rupture of blood vessels in the rectum/Anus.
Are there evidence based facts around?

There is a risk - but I'd class walking across a road with your eyes closed as extremely risky, and getting my cock sucked by a WG isn't in that league.

In the end it's up to you, what you want to do with your body and whether or not you're in a relationship.

[Jamie76]

The ones i really find insane are the guys that bareback anal wgs

[Horizontal pleasures]

The ones i really find insane are the guys that bareback anal wgs

so demonstrate your insight with some reviews soon please.

[James999]

A pro$$ie will offer bareback for one of or a combination of the following

1. She's already infected so nothing to lose
2. She's being forced
3. She's a drug addict and needs a fix
4. She's mental health issues

 

[EnglishRebecca121]

A pro$$ie will offer bareback for one of or a combination of the following

1. She's already infected so nothing to lose
2. She's being forced
3. She's a drug addict and needs a fix
4. She's mental health issues

 

or 5) They foolishly think they will get more clients.
6) their to tight to buy comdoms!

[mikexxlong]

A pro$$ie will offer bareback for one of or a combination of the following

1. She's already infected so nothing to lose
2. She's being forced
3. She's a drug addict and needs a fix
4. She's mental health issues

 

you could say it's linked with number 4
but an overwhelming  desire a fetish of having people Cumming inside them

i knew of a swinging couple and the female loved blokes blowing their load inside
she supposedly took med's to prevent catching anything 

no doubt some of these types find their way into prostitution

[Hungarian Lover]

You left off No 5. Ignorance. Uneducated girls from certain parts of Europe.

[smartieshouse]

There is a property in Leeds Ls11 offering 3 stunning girls all delivering BB.

All 3 appear stunning. Why oh why oh why......

[James999]

You left off No 5. Ignorance. Uneducated girls from certain parts of Europe.

Likely covered by point 2, Forced by their pimp 

[Doc Holliday]

There is only one thing more desperate than a new BB thread and that is a two year old one bumped up again   

They are amongst the most pointless threads on punting forums, not because they are especially repetitive, but because of the lack of honesty, the degree of denial ("he who doth protest too much") and mostly the level of irrational hysteria whenever it is discussed.

I gave up years ago attempting to turn them into a rational 'evidence based' and simplified discussion and normally would no longer contribute to the "why do they do it" type thread.
However I am doing so because I read this earlier mostly well constructed reply, albeit from a banned member, and I would like to give much of it a + 1

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=134276.msg1501886#msg1501886

It illustrates some of the points I mention especially the irrational hysteria and obsession with sexual histories (which are impossible to ascertain with any degree of accuracy)

I write this early on a Sunday morning knowing that there are god knows how many people in just my home town, who are waking up today having indulged in unprotected 'casual' sex last night.
A very small proportion of them will involve prostitutes (maybe even less than usual with AW being offline )

The majority will have done it because it feels much better for both parties and a few will have paid for that 'sensation'. Those that do so take a varying degree of risk.

Those who sensibly wear a condom today, tomorrow or next week with anyone who, unbeknown to them, may have indulged otherwise last night, will be fine. It is a simple as that.

[James999]

There is only one thing more desperate than a new BB thread and that is a two year old one

It's like the regional BB avoidance threads, the only use they serve is to those seeking bareback as it alerts them to some potential victims 

[Doc Holliday]

It's like the regional BB avoidance threads, the only use they serve is to those seeking bareback as it alerts them to some potential victims 

Yes there has always been much debate as to who benefits most from such threads. I personally would agree with your viewpoint on this because as I said above attempting to ascertain anyone's true sexual history is nigh impossible and of no real importance as you should just assume that everyone you see may be having unprotected sex and is a risk.

That is how the healthcare profession has dealt with cross infection control by assuming everyone may be carrying something and protecting themselves and their patients accordingly. Trying to ascertain a more detailed risk assessment/investigation can come later as part of the process, but in the case of sexual histories is notoriously unreliable.

[radioman33]

For bookings and money,have recently spoken to one girl who has taken bareback off her adultwork now she gets no work.Shes rough though.

[Doc Holliday]

EDIT. I should add that I am just agreeing with James above about lists of SPs who advertise BB and realise I/we are in a minority. It's not an attempt to try and persuade anyone on my views ... I have long since given up on that score  If people feel happier 'psychologically' with these warnings then that's fine.

One final point there are a number of comments about some punters being offered BB by 'regulars' and whilst I wouldn't suggest this is common, it happens a lot more than you may suspect ... but of course few will openly admit it.

[James999]

For bookings and money,have recently spoken to one girl who has taken bareback off her adultwork now she gets no work.Shes rough though.

Still a barebacker though 

[munterhunter]

Maybe they are already HIV+ & don't care anymore

Some escorts are trafficked and forced to some do it out of desperation to make money some choose to offer it just as punters can choose whether to indulge in bb with prostitutes or not.it's not really a complex question. If there is a demand for an activity no matter how bizarre then its likely you'll find someone willing (for a price) to accomodate you!
Personally I have no objection to girls advertising bb it's not my place to judge them. It does allow me to avoid them I acknowledge that I will be punting with girls who have unprotected sex with regulars or boyfriends or one night stand strangers and not advertising the fact so I take responsibility for my own sexual health whenever I have sex.
It's been said before but its worth repeating..punting isn't for the faint hearted. In over 40 years of punting I've never had an sti because I accept the risks involved and take care to minimise them.