The game of sex work in a LATINA BROTHEL

[oversexed]

Admin please delete if this breaks the rule.

What you are about to read is about game of sex in a latina brothel

The game of sex work involves two players, affection and money.

The punter wants affection
The escort wants money


Source: I managed to bag a brazilian prossie in this lockdown. This girl used to
work in the Ana/ibiezefui brothel before graduating to sutton, canary wharf and enfield
brothel and now indie.
She has been my top favourite for almost a year, a backup, i never reviewed her because
she was always busy and i felt like she is well known. Her pictures are on here and people have reviewed her before.

Anyway lockdown arrive and she's lonely, doesnt want to work, need any money.
we arranged to meet, fuck, pay, chill and chat.

Recently, She has been spilling the games that the latina prossies play
and most importantly why we get bad service

A bit of detail about Ana, let's call her that. She is
Age: 25
Nationality: Brazilian
Escorting since 19

1> How a latina brothel money system works

Every latina prossie have heard the story that London is a rich place.
There are stories of women making 50k,100k within 6 months of being here. Yes, escorts are making minimum 10k here
during their short stay here.
So given all that back story, they all want to make their big buck.

Now most escort new to London,choose a brothel house, it is cheaper, safer, require less paperwork than
going independent. Especially if they don't speak english.

This part is important.
Brothel takes 50%-60% of their income

So if you go a latina brothel and pay for 30mins, which is often 60-70 pound.
The girl will make 30-35 pound fucking you.
So looking at things from the girl's point of view, they are fucking you for 30 pound.
That is frustrating for her.
"30 pound to fuck me, yuck" they often think, said Ana

Now prossies devise a plan to earn more money
EXTRAS: extras goes directly to thier pocket.
The more extra you pay, the more she feels like she's earning her buck.
For a 30 minutes booking,
20 for FK, 20 for OWO. Add that to the 30 (her portion from 60),
Now she's earning 70 for half hour
She is happy.
She is more happy if you pay for 1 hour, 100 plus extras.
Now she gives you her good service
Repeat customers get better service

2 . Why you get bad service.
A typical punter, including me, sees latina brothel as cheap.
We go in with £60 (or £40) and expects a Mayfair, Kensington or Knightbridge kind
of service.
Now remember what i wrote initially, "escorts want money"

£60 pound to you is £20-30 to her.
Prossie view, according to Jessica: "cheap, i'm rushing this guy, i'm not giving me a good service, cheap man"

Another problem arises when punters like me wants more.
We want to smash like there is no tomorrow
Prossie view:
>"you are paying me 20/30 pound to smash, fuck you."
>"This pussy is going to be taking more 10+ dicks tonight, dont ruin me."

Extras are not favourites, just a way to get more money out of you.
A common complain of punter's here about latina extra services is that they
dont do it well to deserve paying for it.

Ana explains why
First, some girls dont like DFK (deep french kissing), it is not what they are used to.
Men from their countries dont kiss prostitutes.
Now you come in wanting DFK is quite digusting and absurd to them.
But they try and play along, hence you get average kiss

OWO
Now this depends on the girl, said Ana
Some are afraid of STI
Some dont like it
Some like it if you are clean

But Ana warned, it is all for money, so a prossie will often do it according to
her mood that moment or day.

I'm failing asleep here but i hope to post more,if allowed, about

• short-changing tactics
• how the mega-rich spend on escorts in london
• Robberies at Latina brothels
• Fights between girls
• Baits and switchs
• How much does an escorts make and how they spend them?
• Young vs old punters
• young vs old prossies (quality of service, mentality etc)
• Why the standard rate for a good sevice is London is 150 -200 pound
• Black men
• Lover boys

[NightKid]

Thanks for the write-up. A number of interesting insights to be had and offers some explanation for the advent of threads like these so I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be allowed if that can.

[HERTSBLUE]

Seen a few Brazilian hookers  crap usually
Apart from the 2 lovelies at turnpike lane a few years back they were cheap but service was unbelievable.

[Jerk Chicken]

Thanks for the excellent post OP.

I concur with everything you have written so far and makes total sense to me. I have already thrown it out there, not in this detail, about the Latina business model and the current gripe regarding extras and what punters should expect.

Look forward to reading your further Latina posts.

[Beesman]

Good informative post. Common sense when you think about it but nice to have it laid out in the cold, hard truth.

[PLeisure]

This will be an essential go-to thread, I suspect. Potentially a no-holds account of their MO. I’d certainly like to read more. Good work, undercover OP - keep your anonymity intact w. Ana 

[Fully Sated]

Oversexed, Thank you for posting this insight. I have never visited a Latina Brothel, brothels in general don't hold much appeal for me, but hearing things from aonther perspective is fascinating. Looking forward to the next installment.

[sunnyj]

Good post OP 
Just one observation, shouldn't it be like this
"The punter wants sex" 

[smiths]

Yes good information from the OP, thanks. It re-enforces what I already thought and Jerk Chicken as he has posted above also outlined some of this recently on here.

No doubt it also applies at least in some aspects to other WGs not just Latinas.

My overall view is IF a WG chooses to be a WG from her own free will and knows and agrees to pay her pimp an agreed cut then the service she offers punters should be good 100% of the time assuming the punter isn't a horrible cunt. I also expect A/W profiles to be accurate and honest, I uphold my end of the deal, arriving on time, clean with the agreed cash, I expect all WGs to offer me the same courtesy. However, I of course know that's an aspiration not a reality with some if not many WGs. Lots of lying low lifes about pre-lockdown in my area and I had dealings with more than enough of them, but then I purposely took some risks in search of a gem, sometimes I found one, mainly I didn't.

[Jerk Chicken]

Yes good information from the OP, thanks. It re-enforces what I already thought and Jerk Chicken as he has posted above also outlined some of this recently on here.

No doubt it also applies at least in some aspects to other WGs not just Latinas.

My overall view is IF a WG chooses to be a WG from her own free will and knows and agrees to pay her pimp an agreed cut then the service she offers punters should be good 100% of the time assuming the punter isn't a horrible cunt. I also expect A/W profiles to be accurate and honest, I uphold my end of the deal, arriving on time, clean with the agreed cash, I expect all WGs to offer me the same courtesy. However, I of course know that's an aspiration not a reality with some if not many WGs. Lots of lying low lifes about pre-lockdown in my area and I had dealings with more than enough of them, but then I purposely took some risks in search of a gem, sometimes I found one, mainly I didn't.

Love the bit in OP's thread paraphrasing now   .... "you wanna rip my pussy to shreds for £30/30 mins you can go do one cheap cunt"

Again total low-life attitude as that is the deal the WG agreed with da pimp but when put like that we can see why many punters are not getting what they want but are still "sucked" in by the magical Latina booty, hip/waist ratio, tanned and all the rest!

[smiths]

Love the bit in OP's thread paraphrasing now   .... "you wanna rip my pussy to shreds for £30/30 mins you can go do one cheap cunt"

Again total low-life attitude as that is the deal the WG agreed with da pimp but when put like that we can see why many punters are not getting what they want but are still "sucked" in by the magical Latina booty, hip/waist ratio, tanned and all the rest!

Indeed so, anyway at least you and the OP have exposed this for those reading to see and act accordingly as they choose to. This WG attitude can be the same in Hungarian and Polish brothels except they usually in my area anyway charge less to start with, so less to lose obviously if it goes tits up. As I know you can find a gem in these brothels which is why I continued to punt in them pre-lockdown. It was hit and miss but I knew that.

When I punt again IF my regulars before lockdown are still about or have returned its them I shall be punting with first that's for sure, £90-140 an hour will get me what I want, unless they put their prices up obviously.

[Chorley]

Good thread OP. 

I think as many have alluded to, punters often put up with shitty services from Latinas because.................. well, they're Latinas. 

They're exotic--at least to Brits and those on mainland Europe- sexy, and they have unique and often cartoonesque bodies that blokes lust after.

They know that we are quite often ruled by the little brain rather than the big brain, and we all know the small brain can have an equally small memory. 

[king tarzan]

he does not want to review her.. keeps her to himself.. why should the lads respond????
No thanks!!!!

[puntingpumping1920]

You just have to be realistic
 
What type of services do you expect a girl looking like a IG Model charging no more than £70hh
 
You have to expect P & D services....maybe one or two positions....no GFE
 
You have to choose the expensive girls....If you want IG Model looks and good service
 

[Jerk Chicken]

he does not want to review her.. keeps her to himself.. why should the lads respond????
No thanks!!!!

Hey KT .... that's real harsh.

He has stated she is well reviewed on here and his punts have nothing to add. I think it's right and proper he does not reveal her name. There is no need.

Whilst many of us who fuck Latinas know most of what OP has said so far the detail is very useful. It confirms what many of us were already thinking. The forum can only benefit and it should put an end to these gripes about "extra baby" and being refused Doggy coz the WG knows you're gonna fuck the hell out of her for 30 queensheads or stick ya tongue down her gob; not happening mate!

[oversexed]

he does not want to review her.. keeps her to himself.. why should the lads respond????
No thanks!!!!

As i said, she's been reviewed her before, a positive and a neutral.

She moved around a lot, swap profiles etc

After my third meet with her, we only communicated via her work phone.

I'm in _____ babe, come and see me. Hope you are ok

[king tarzan]

You just have to be realistic
 
What type of services do you expect a girl looking like a IG Model charging no more than £70hh
 
You have to expect P & D services....maybe one or two positions....no GFE
 
You have to choose the expensive girls....If you want IG Model looks and good service

Smarten up like James Bond turn up in Earls Court to a Russian Super honey with flowers, chocolate  and Louis Rodorer champagne...

[PLeisure]

He has stated she is well reviewed on here and his punts have nothing to add. I think it's right and proper he does not reveal her name. There is no need.

Exactly. OP needs to maintain anonymity so that he can continue his intel gathering.

Please carry on - no need to justify yourself 

[oversexed]

You just have to be realistic
 
What type of services do you expect a girl looking like a IG Model charging no more than £70hh
 
You have to expect P & D services....maybe one or two positions....no GFE
 
You have to choose the expensive girls....If you want IG Model looks and good service

There is truth to this. However, you can still get a good service from a IG Model charging no more than £70hh

You just have to pay more. Pay for the extras, see her more often. Now adding all that up, you will end up paying the same price
for Knightsbridge or Central london WG.

So it raises the question, why go and see a latina in a brothel house. Maybe she looks better than the high street ones?

[smiths]

You just have to be realistic
 
What type of services do you expect a girl looking like a IG Model charging no more than £70hh
 
You have to expect P & D services....maybe one or two positions....no GFE
 
You have to choose the expensive girls....If you want IG Model looks and good service

Depends on what you view as a model though £70 an hour wont be easy to find for a good WG in my area, £90 an hour was possible pre-lockdown for WGs I fancied and offered me a good service many times. And between £90 and £140 an hour there were a number of good WGs about. None of these were Latina though, all EE WGs.

[bops909]

Thanks for the excellent post OP.

I concur with everything you have written so far and makes total sense to me. I have already thrown it out there, not in this detail, about the Latina business model and the current gripe regarding extras and what punters should expect.

Look forward to reading your further Latina posts.

Yes, thanks for a very informative post. 
I also look forward to reading more.

I suspect this business model applies not just in London. Some of the agencies/groups on AW are more or less nationwide. External Link/Members Only

I have no way of knowing if they apply the same business model of course, and the Group Manager doesn't sound especially Latino "Patrick Drovenyuk"  so maybe I'm wrong.

It's a shame that this gives some WGs a bad rep when there are some great independents out there. Karinna Latina springs to mind.

External Link/Members Only

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=serviceprovider;id=5193

[smiths]

Yes, thanks for a very informative post. 
I also look forward to reading more.

I suspect this business model applies not just in London. Some of the agencies/groups on AW are more or less nationwide. External Link/Members Only

I have no way of knowing if they apply the same business model of course, and the Group Manager doesn't sound especially Latino "Patrick Drovenyuk"  so maybe I'm wrong.

It's a shame that this gives some WGs a bad rep when there are some great independents out there. Karinna Latina springs to mind.

External Link/Members Only

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=serviceprovider;id=5193

That brings in another question, how many WGs really are Independent and how would a punter know for sure. Of course you will know a brothel WG has a pimp of some description but ANY WG could have a pimp and punters wouldn't necessarily be aware, not saying the WG you mention here has one as I have no idea if she has or hasn't. Punting by its nature means a WGs real personal set-up is not known in many cases.

[Jerk Chicken]

Time shortening.

This scenario is interesting again based on UKP reviews.

Whilst many guys complain about time I can't recall a review, although I am reasonably sure there must be, of a punter posting paid for 30 mins but was booted out on 15 mins?

I very rarely book 30 min bookings (and have never booked a 15 min) regardless of the SP as I like at least 2 pops for my hard earned in a non rush environment so can't comment on this Latina tactic.

[smiths]

Time shortening.

This scenario is interesting again based on UKP reviews.

Whilst many guys complain about time I can't recall a review, although I am reasonably sure there must be, of a punter posting paid for 30 mins but was booted out on 15 mins?

I very rarely book 30 min bookings (and have never booked a 15 min) regardless of the SP as I like at least 2 pops for my hard earned in a non rush environment so can't comment on this Latina tactic.

The OPs post is the same scenario in loads of brothels I have punted in with WGs of lots of different nationalities, and some so called Indies, how much the WG/pimp tries to cut the punt short and the money side may be different though.

Its the same old story, by cutting punters time short they can squeeze in more punters. At House Of Divine which has or had some Brit WGs cutting the time short of at least some punters is well known to some of us, it suits both the pimps and the WGs. A punting mate of mine was a regular at HOD for years and he usually got a good service because he was a reg. In the late 80s into the 90s before EE WGs came here in big numbers many brothels in my area had mainly Brit WGs and trying to cut my time short happened a lot.

I personally have found a couple of Polish brothels and 1 Hungarian brothel haven't tried time shortening on me, but the Poles tried and on occasion succeeded in fucking me over in other ways. So far the Hungarian 1 pre-lockdown had been good though the WGs all vanilla, if thats ok for the punter for £90 an hour for FK/DFK and OWO that was a good deal in my experience. The best type of brothel for not trying to cut my time short has been sex parties though that doesn't mean some didn't let the WGs lounge around smoking fags and chatting shit to each other, in my paid for time, as some did.

Where you know for sure a pimp is involved my advice to punters is just be aware they may well try to fuck you other in various ways using various methods. Once again none of this applies to Latinas but good to see the OPs post.

[Payyourwaymate]

Thank you for writing this. Hopefully others can now understand.

[bops909]

That brings in another question, how many WGs really are Independent and how would a punter know for sure. Of course you will know a brothel WG has a pimp of some description but ANY WG could have a pimp and punters wouldn't necessarily be aware, not saying the WG you mention here has one as I have no idea if she has or hasn't. Punting by its nature means a WGs real personal set-up is not known in many cases.

Yes, it's all relative isn't it? There is a limit on what the punter knows.

I think all you can say that someone is more independent - that's what you know for sure. I won't know the ins and outs of her personal set-up.

The person I thought of works relatively limited hours, has a very relaxed demeanor and seems to be as interested in having a good time as I am when I have seen her.  She's also has time to keep up an impressive fitness routine, pays tax and works (lives?) in Hemel not London. I think these things together would imply she is a more independent woman. I think she has control of her own passport and purse.

[LLPunting]

Smarten up like James Bond turn up in Earls Court to a Russian Super honey with flowers, chocolate  and Louis Rodorer champagne...

Is it spelt like that on the bottle?

If so you really are a cheapskate.

[Jerk Chicken]

Still trying to get my head around the "Anna" claim that punter books 30 mins but WG informs Sergei he has only booked 15 mins gambling he will pop in 2 -12 minutes, get dressed and leave a happy punter and she banks the difference!

[smiths]

Yes, it's all relative isn't it? There is a limit on what the punter knows.

I think all you can say that someone is more independent - that's what you know for sure. I won't know the ins and outs of her personal set-up.

The person I thought of works relatively limited hours, has a very relaxed demeanor and seems to be as interested in having a good time as I am when I have seen her.  She's also has time to keep up an impressive fitness routine, pays tax and works (lives?) in Hemel not London. I think these things together would imply she is a more independent woman. I think she has control of her own passport and purse.

Indeed, but it still doesn't mean for certain she really is an Indie. What you can do if you choose to is avoid WGs you know for sure work in brothels as they are very likely to have a pimp.

[LLPunting]

Sorry everyone, there's nothing revelatory or Latina specific in the OP.

If a woman, irrespective of race, culture, personal sex boundaries, goes into sex work she knows she will be challenged by what's demanded from her. 
If she's genuinely not being coerced then she chooses what she does for what money and the punters can go fuck themselves if they don't like it.  If she's smart she organises some physical safety measures to protect her self-determination.
If however she's working for a brothel/pimp/agency for convenience then she is most likely being coerced directly or indirectly, if not to do sex work at all, it will be to offer services she doesn't want to (for whatever reason of knowledge, preference or ignorance).  She can choose to take out her frustrations on punters and risk repercussions from pimp/brothel/agency or she can choose to do the best business she can under the circumstances, until she can change her circumstances.

If a punter is deluded enough to think they will get a "Mayfair" service (whatever the fuck that is) from a "cheap" Latina brothel WG then he deserves every disrespect and consequence he gets.

Most of the past complaints, particularly from seasoned vets, is about advertised services NOT being delivered, particularly when agreed included in the quoted price.

OP appears to be justifying the fraudulent experiences reported with some pity-party commiseration from the revelations of a latina favourite he hasn't shared/reviewed and has developed a "relationship" with.

A controlled WG costing 60 hh/ 100ph (or more broadly cheaper for longer), particularly one who charges extras, won't want you to pay the hour from a financial point of view because she earns less if she's an otherwise busy girl. 
To whit for an x hrs shift at a busy brothel with punters "lining up": 
girl gets 2x customers for £60(2x) - 50/60% + £2x(extras sold) = £120x - 50/60% + £2x(extras sold)
If the same girl converts punters to 1hr then girl gets £100x - 50/60% + x(extras sold)

Don't forget that in both scenarios where girl is busy you never get more time than you pay for and you're most likely exiting her room early.  Another complaint levied at all kinds of girls by those who want their time as opposed to those who are happy to cum after a satisfactory/pleasing but brief encounter.

The only reasons a girl converts punters to longer sessions on a lower pro-rata rate are:
i)   She wants to be less busy despite the financial hit (unlikely in a controlled brothel)
ii)  She's seeing less than 2 punters per hr at her prices and wants to up her income.

The only reasons a girl gives you more time than you paid for: 
i) She knows she doesn't have anyone immediately after that isn't prepared to wait (and she may be nice/dodgy enough to make it up to the darling)
ii) She enjoys what you're doing together and she wants more (rare perhaps but not unheard of)
iii) She fancies you (rarer but not unheard of).
iv) She's lining you up for a long con (more likely than previous 2 reasons and certainly not unheard of)

OP, I hope your intentions were purely punter interests only, perhaps it was lost in translation from your native language and culture, but if you are going to write up "authoritative" guides on any aspects of punting please do your research properly amongst all the valuable experience already shared on this site.  Don't start up "new" threads" on much discussed topics, which omit all the past and still relevant information.  Revive old threads, with all the wealth of their content, and add to them anything not already discussed.

I hope you're here to do better by us rather than "Latinas" in brothels.

[Jerk Chicken]

@LLPunting .... Latinas appear to be the current bugbear of punters. I have yet to see any of the previous threads set out the intel in so much detail the way OP has.

Puntiwiki certainly does not nor does the more recent threads give us any insight into the infamous "extra baby". Insofar as time management. Your guesstimate model lacks detail as to the mindset of the WG save for fuck as many customers as possible mantra whereas OP has at least put some meat on the bone so to speak. Nobody else has.

[LLPunting]

@LLPunting .... Latinas appear to be the current bugbear of punters. I have yet to see any of the previous threads set out the intel in so much detail the way OP has.

Puntiwiki certainly does not nor does the more recent threads give us any insight into the infamous "extra baby". Insofar as time management. Your guesstimate model lacks detail as to the mindset of the WG save for fuck as many customers as possible mantra whereas OP has at least put some meat on the bone so to speak. Nobody else has.

Hey JC,
The summary presented by OP is a summary of the multitude of mentions of Latinas in just the last 12 months let alone several years across multiple threads and reviews including the current thread about "boycotting" them.  "Current" is hardly just now, we have been bemoaning the behaviour of Latinas for a long time.  As we have been complaining about Chinese B&S, Romanian service levels, the loss of Thai excellence, rolling eyes at Russians with mangos, et cetera, et cetera...
The one nugget was the 50/60% levy by management which was not so much revelatory as confirmatory about what many have known and some have mentioned long past about this cheaper, more exploitative end of the market.  Anyone paying attention to this site or indeed digging details from their favourite SPs in a little pillow talk over the years will have built a similar picture.
In fact if Latinas moreso than any other WGs are slaving under the heavy penalty of such tithing then we should indeed be boycotting them and reporting their establishments to the authorities for slavery and exploitation.

My "guestimate" model is indeed the crude about what a WG has available to her, that is, time to fuck (over) punters, presuming she does so on a one-to-one basis.
We could complicate it with those who do 15 min quickies.  We could try to make it more "real" with stats about the average busy-ness of Latina brothels vis-a-vis other brothels.  We could try to find the tipping point of busy-ness whereby WGs who manage to dispose of each punter, a, after y=f(a) mins and wait q=f(y) mins for the next before spending f(b) mins on punter b for all punters, r, in a shift, et ceterah, et ceterah, et ceterahhhh.  We could figure for WGs who roll in some extras if you stay longer.
There would no doubt be an optimal outcome of non-integer punter encounters at certain rates for extras (presuming consistent across all punters rather than personal per punter) which might also play in WGs' favour.  However given such modelling is extremely unlikely to be available (or even in the interest) of anyone on the SP side focusing on whether a WG takes a 30 min or 60 min appointment and the basic concomitant "esstras" that might be involved (ie cheapest, lowest return per performed instance or per session indulgence) is a sound starting point.  That said, the "questimate" I proposed accounts for OPs proposition based on his assumptions about punter behaviour and demands.

By all mean present a reasonable alternate scenario that argues differently and which isn't invalidated by the constant that WGs fuck for profit.

[tobyk1]

Nice post op cheers 

Never one for the brothels.... mainly due to the fact that police are much more likely to roll through the door versus an indie.

Would be interested in hearing more on all of these subjects 

I'm failing asleep here but i hope to post more,if allowed, about

• short-changing tactics
• how the mega-rich spend on escorts in london
• Robberies at Latina brothels
• Fights between girls
• Baits and switchs
• How much does an escorts make and how they spend them?
• Young vs old punters
• young vs old prossies (quality of service, mentality etc)
• Why the standard rate for a good sevice is London is 150 -200 pound
• Black men
• Lover boys

[NightKid]

I think the fundamental problem is that the brothel takes far too high of a cut ... typical labour exploitation 101 really and happens in most service industries.

Would be interested in hearing more on all of these subjects 

Ditto. 

[king tarzan]

At this moment in time i have given the Brazilians the V sign and have gone Russian 

[puntingpumping1920]

This part is important.
Brothel takes 50%-60% of their income

 
If you know a brothel/ pimp taking those exploitative percentages
 
You need to report that to the police

[DonDickDraper]

I'm failing asleep here but i hope to post more,if allowed, about

• short-changing tactics
• how the mega-rich spend on escorts in london
• Robberies at Latina brothels
• Fights between girls
• Baits and switchs
• How much does an escorts make and how they spend them?
• Young vs old punters
• young vs old prossies (quality of service, mentality etc)
• Why the standard rate for a good sevice is London is 150 -200 pound
• Black men
• Lover boys

Good thread.

Would love to know more about (1) how the mega-rich spend on escorts in London (as well as what they get up to), and (2) Black men.

I can proudly state that I’ve seen ~3 Brazilians in all my punting years as I noticed they were brothel girls whose pictures very rarely matched their profiles. Everything you’ve just posted gives me all the more reason to avoid them. So long as Hungarian and Polish girls are around then there’s no point visiting a brothel Brazilian for a shit experience.

[HERTSBLUE]

Nice post op cheers 

Never one for the brothels.... mainly due to the fact that police are much more likely to roll through the door versus an indie.

Would be interested in hearing more on all of these subjects 

The police  there to busy taking the knee.

[Jerk Chicken]

Hey JC,
The summary presented by OP is a summary of the multitude of mentions of Latinas in just the last 12 months let alone several years across multiple threads and reviews including the current thread about "boycotting" them.  "Current" is hardly just now, we have been bemoaning the behaviour of Latinas for a long time.  As we have been complaining about Chinese B&S, Romanian service levels, the loss of Thai excellence, rolling eyes at Russians with mangos, et cetera, et cetera...
The one nugget was the 50/60% levy by management which was not so much revelatory as confirmatory about what many have known and some have mentioned long past about this cheaper, more exploitative end of the market.  Anyone paying attention to this site or indeed digging details from their favourite SPs in a little pillow talk over the years will have built a similar picture.
In fact if Latinas moreso than any other WGs are slaving under the heavy penalty of such tithing then we should indeed be boycotting them and reporting their establishments to the authorities for slavery and exploitation.

My "guestimate" model is indeed the crude about what a WG has available to her, that is, time to fuck (over) punters, presuming she does so on a one-to-one basis.
We could complicate it with those who do 15 min quickies.  We could try to make it more "real" with stats about the average busy-ness of Latina brothels vis-a-vis other brothels.  We could try to find the tipping point of busy-ness whereby WGs who manage to dispose of each punter, a, after y=f(a) mins and wait q=f(y) mins for the next before spending f(b) mins on punter b for all punters, r, in a shift, et ceterah, et ceterah, et ceterahhhh.  We could figure for WGs who roll in some extras if you stay longer.
There would no doubt be an optimal outcome of non-integer punter encounters at certain rates for extras (presuming consistent across all punters rather than personal per punter) which might also play in WGs' favour.  However given such modelling is extremely unlikely to be available (or even in the interest) of anyone on the SP side focusing on whether a WG takes a 30 min or 60 min appointment and the basic concomitant "esstras" that might be involved (ie cheapest, lowest return per performed instance or per session indulgence) is a sound starting point.  That said, the "questimate" I proposed accounts for OPs proposition based on his assumptions about punter behaviour and demands.

By all mean present a reasonable alternate scenario that argues differently and which isn't invalidated by the constant that WGs fuck for profit.

I disagree it is a summary per se of what has been discussed on UKP over the years – this comment is a disservice to OP’s efforts to enlighten us. Snippets yes, repeated insights driven by punter sentiment possibly but I maintain this has far more detail then previously thought and comes from a Latina WG if we accept on face value what has been written so far.

Agree with your “post coital pillow talk” comment as I have experienced this myself with 1 or 2 Latinas but did not spend enough time in their company to get the full juice OP did.

Your mathematical modelling whilst it can be levied at most brothel girls this thread is about Latinas so it is right and just, we focus on this ethnic group only.

So far, he has informed us of: -

Time shortening

The key point, for me anyway, is WG informing the house a punter has booked 15 minutes @ 40 queensheads when he has in fact booked 30 minutes at say 60/70 queensheads and uses her own “algebraic equation” to get rid of him inside 15 minutes. Other time shortening techniques is much of muchness.

Cheap Fuck

Further If we take the mindset thing as gospel with regards to 30 min bookings and then throw in most Latina reviews on here are 30 mins or less. Yes, we could have reasonably worked this out for ourselves that the WG is thinking don’t be expecting "Mayfair Service" for £30/40 because I see you as a cheap fucker however it is great to have it confirmed. It sends a clear message to punters if this is indeed the norm. Some cultures are going to feel more strongly about perceived cheap punters and this will be reflected in the service delivery.

The infamous B&S

Much discussed on here but I have yet to read some of reasons set out by OP. That is to say WG not confident or has acquired a bad reputation so whilst still in the brothel new pics are added to deceive punters. He did mention a few others but cannot recall what they are. Again, as far as I can see new intel. Agreed does not make much of a difference as we the punter have still been conned and not overly ground breaking but useful anyway.

There are lots of other snippets listed which would be good to have out there including Age of punters, Black Men, Robberies.

I do not see anything written so far can be deemed as “lost in translation” or not have the punting community  interests at heart. On the contrary it is written with us in mind and it is up to us how we want to use the info tabled so far.

[NightKid]

If you know a brothel/ pimp taking those exploitative percentages
 
You need to report that to the police

What on earth are the police gonna do about it? It's a business model dude, you might as well report every business applying stupid markups on their stuff for all the good that'll do. 

[king tarzan]

What on earth are the police gonna do about it? It's a business model dude, you might as well report every business applying stupid markups on their stuff for all the good that'll do. 

Go back to sleep...

[NightKid]

Go back to sleep...

Go fuck in the jungle? 

[oversexed]

Sorry everyone, there's nothing revelatory or Latina specific in the OP.

If a woman, irrespective of race, culture, personal sex boundaries, goes into sex work she knows she will be challenged by what's demanded from her. 
If she's genuinely not being coerced then she chooses what she does for what money and the punters can go fuck themselves if they don't like it.  If she's smart she organises some physical safety measures to protect her self-determination.
If however she's working for a brothel/pimp/agency for convenience then she is most likely being coerced directly or indirectly, if not to do sex work at all, it will be to offer services she doesn't want to (for whatever reason of knowledge, preference or ignorance).  She can choose to take out her frustrations on punters and risk repercussions from pimp/brothel/agency or she can choose to do the best business she can under the circumstances, until she can change her circumstances.

If a punter is deluded enough to think they will get a "Mayfair" service (whatever the fuck that is) from a "cheap" Latina brothel WG then he deserves every disrespect and consequence he gets.

Most of the past complaints, particularly from seasoned vets, is about advertised services NOT being delivered, particularly when agreed included in the quoted price.

OP appears to be justifying the fraudulent experiences reported with some pity-party commiseration from the revelations of a latina favourite he hasn't shared/reviewed and has developed a "relationship" with.

A controlled WG costing 60 hh/ 100ph (or more broadly cheaper for longer), particularly one who charges extras, won't want you to pay the hour from a financial point of view because she earns less if she's an otherwise busy girl. 
To whit for an x hrs shift at a busy brothel with punters "lining up": 
girl gets 2x customers for £60(2x) - 50/60% + £2x(extras sold) = £120x - 50/60% + £2x(extras sold)
If the same girl converts punters to 1hr then girl gets £100x - 50/60% + x(extras sold)

Don't forget that in both scenarios where girl is busy you never get more time than you pay for and you're most likely exiting her room early.  Another complaint levied at all kinds of girls by those who want their time as opposed to those who are happy to cum after a satisfactory/pleasing but brief encounter.

The only reasons a girl converts punters to longer sessions on a lower pro-rata rate are:
i)   She wants to be less busy despite the financial hit (unlikely in a controlled brothel)
ii)  She's seeing less than 2 punters per hr at her prices and wants to up her income.

The only reasons a girl gives you more time than you paid for: 
i) She knows she doesn't have anyone immediately after that isn't prepared to wait (and she may be nice/dodgy enough to make it up to the darling)
ii) She enjoys what you're doing together and she wants more (rare perhaps but not unheard of)
iii) She fancies you (rarer but not unheard of).
iv) She's lining you up for a long con (more likely than previous 2 reasons and certainly not unheard of)

OP, I hope your intentions were purely punter interests only, perhaps it was lost in translation from your native language and culture, but if you are going to write up "authoritative" guides on any aspects of punting please do your research properly amongst all the valuable experience already shared on this site.  Don't start up "new" threads" on much discussed topics, which omit all the past and still relevant information.  Revive old threads, with all the wealth of their content, and add to them anything not already discussed.

I hope you're here to do better by us rather than "Latinas" in brothels.

Hey, thanks for your input on this. I'm definitely doing this for us. I wish i knew this information before punting.

Mayfair service is the service that you get, well i've mostly get, when you visit a high charging WG in central london.
The 150 minimum per hour WGs. The no-rush, all services delivered, shower offered, drinks, massage etc. type of service.

And for the record, i have not developed a relationship with Ana. I still pay to fuck her.

I noticed my thread about Bait and switch/ Time shortening have been deleted. That's a shame, wish i was warned.
I will post the rest here

[Colston36]

Admin please delete if this breaks the rule.

What you are about to read is about game of sex in a latina brothel

The game of sex work involves two players, affection and money.

The punter wants affection
The escort wants money


Source: I managed to bag a brazilian prossie in this lockdown. This girl used to
work in the Ana/ibiezefui brothel before graduating to sutton, canary wharf and enfield
brothel and now indie.
She has been my top favourite for almost a year, a backup, i never reviewed her because
she was always busy and i felt like she is well known. Her pictures are on here and people have reviewed her before.

Anyway lockdown arrive and she's lonely, doesnt want to work, need any money.
we arranged to meet, fuck, pay, chill and chat.

Recently, She has been spilling the games that the latina prossies play
and most importantly why we get bad service

A bit of detail about Ana, let's call her that. She is
Age: 25
Nationality: Brazilian
Escorting since 19

1> How a latina brothel money system works

Every latina prossie have heard the story that London is a rich place.
There are stories of women making 50k,100k within 6 months of being here. Yes, escorts are making minimum 10k here
during their short stay here.
So given all that back story, they all want to make their big buck.

Now most escort new to London,choose a brothel house, it is cheaper, safer, require less paperwork than
going independent. Especially if they don't speak english.

This part is important.
Brothel takes 50%-60% of their income

So if you go a latina brothel and pay for 30mins, which is often 60-70 pound.
The girl will make 30-35 pound fucking you.
So looking at things from the girl's point of view, they are fucking you for 30 pound.
That is frustrating for her.
"30 pound to fuck me, yuck" they often think, said Ana

Now prossies devise a plan to earn more money
EXTRAS: extras goes directly to thier pocket.
The more extra you pay, the more she feels like she's earning her buck.
For a 30 minutes booking,
20 for FK, 20 for OWO. Add that to the 30 (her portion from 60),
Now she's earning 70 for half hour
She is happy.
She is more happy if you pay for 1 hour, 100 plus extras.
Now she gives you her good service
Repeat customers get better service

2 . Why you get bad service.
A typical punter, including me, sees latina brothel as cheap.
We go in with £60 (or £40) and expects a Mayfair, Kensington or Knightbridge kind
of service.
Now remember what i wrote initially, "escorts want money"

£60 pound to you is £20-30 to her.
Prossie view, according to Jessica: "cheap, i'm rushing this guy, i'm not giving me a good service, cheap man"

Another problem arises when punters like me wants more.
We want to smash like there is no tomorrow
Prossie view:
>"you are paying me 20/30 pound to smash, fuck you."
>"This pussy is going to be taking more 10+ dicks tonight, dont ruin me."

Extras are not favourites, just a way to get more money out of you.
A common complain of punter's here about latina extra services is that they
dont do it well to deserve paying for it.

Ana explains why
First, some girls dont like DFK (deep french kissing), it is not what they are used to.
Men from their countries dont kiss prostitutes.
Now you come in wanting DFK is quite digusting and absurd to them.
But they try and play along, hence you get average kiss

OWO
Now this depends on the girl, said Ana
Some are afraid of STI
Some dont like it
Some like it if you are clean

But Ana warned, it is all for money, so a prossie will often do it according to
her mood that moment or day.

I'm failing asleep here but i hope to post more,if allowed, about

• short-changing tactics
• how the mega-rich spend on escorts in london
• Robberies at Latina brothels
• Fights between girls
• Baits and switchs
• How much does an escorts make and how they spend them?
• Young vs old punters
• young vs old prossies (quality of service, mentality etc)
• Why the standard rate for a good sevice is London is 150 -200 pound
• Black men
• Lover boys

I thought this post was informative and helpful.

This is a place where we share information; why so many on here attack someone for doing so or even end up abusing each other is a mystery.

Any knowledge of how anyone you are dealing with or plan to is useful, because it helps you get a better deal. Anyone who has to make deals knows the best are those where both parties end up happy. This begins with understanding what the other person (in this case a whore) wants.

[oversexed]

What i'm about to write is an informative summary from an anecdote regaled by a prossie, so take it as it is. It is not fact.
i am sharing this information because i found useful and interesting. If what i write doesn't interest you, please ignore this thread and move on.
This forum have been very informative and have helped me tremendously while punting so it is only right i contribute to helping others.

How the mega-rich spend in London
As ye may be aware
there are certain places in London where mega-rich resides. Now this information is useful in case you find yourself punting in this area.
Places like sutton, kingston, Heathrow,  Chelsea, Finchley.
According to Ana, there are men who come in £300-£650 to a latina brothel at these places. These men wants to relax, drink, smoke and engage in special fetishes
So punting in this area with a 15/30 mins cash is very risky.
Now, i'm not saying one should not punt in these areas, it just seems that the probability of getting a good service with a 15/30 mins cash is a low one.
There are stories of the men from these area hiring the whole brothel,  fucking every girl in the brothel, buying gifts, spraying money etc, but i want to try and let's keep this informative.

Black men
Again, this is just information. It is not meant to offend anyone.
What i'm about to write is from the perspective of a brothel girl.
According to Ana, prossies have some gripe with black men because they are "work".
Apparently, majority of black men are from the age of 20 - 40. Very rare above that age.
These men are often fit, tall, good-looking and are packing down there.
Now the problem, according to Ana.
They often come in for pump/dump. Apparently South london is notorious for this.
Pump/dump or 30 mins are nice but these men last long and fuck hard. Now if you recall the pricing system stated earlier, this is not good economically for the girl.

Now there are some silver linings.
> Majority of prossies enjoy black men. The problem is timing and money.

Advise for good service
Punt in non-busy hours, mornings, afternoons, late late evenings etc
Pay for 1 hour plus or warm-up to the girl before fucking within the paid time
Be a repeat customer
If you know how to romance a girl, get her in the mood, this is good. Apparently some men come with negative mindset, standoff-ish or are in a rush to fuck.
If a girl is new, you are more likely to get a good service (i dont get this either, something about trying to build a customer base)

Lover boys
According to Ana, lover boys are repeat customers with extra gestures. They buy gifts, share personal information, pay for extras, often dress impeccable for the meet. ye know yourselves.
Apparently South West (especially Tooting) and East london are known for lover boys.

Anyway, useful information.

Unless you are comfortable with her fucking men for money, then you will always be a customer. A favourite though.

If you are comfortable with htat, be expected to meet a girl that earns a lot but spends a lot as well. Ana pocketed 40K within her first 6 months here, where all that money went, i dont know.

Be ready to meet a girl that comes from a poor or rough background and be ready to support her.

[king tarzan]

just keep it bare bones... cash fuck bye... no need to for detailed pointless characteristics..

[sunnyj]

just keep it bare bones... cash fuck bye... no need to for detailed pointless characteristics..

+1

[AlTerminator]

Wow, thanks for the update, I have heard some ridiculous stories from wg about rich punters and their spending habits, like a crazy coke parties from Russian oligarchs who can't get it up but still ask for floppy blowjobs from every girl.

[sunnyj]

Advise for good service
Punt in non-busy hours, mornings, afternoons, late late evenings etc
Pay for 1 hour plus or warm-up to the girl before fucking within the paid time
Be a repeat customer
If you know how to romance a girl, get her in the mood, this is good. Apparently some men come with negative mindset, standoff-ish or are in a rush to fuck.
If a girl is new, you are more likely to get a good service (i dont get this either, something about trying to build a customer base)

Just to be clear the above is advice from a SP and not in the intrest of the punters. There is no guarantee that one will get good service by following this or any advice.

[oversexed]

Just to be clear the above is advice from a SP and not in the intrest of the punters. There is no guarantee that one will get good service by following this or any advice.

Exactly, take it as it is. It is not fact but it may help