The Myth of the Perfect Prossie

[mcgee121]

Just some observations aimed at newbies and softer souls.  The following should be obvious to fairly experienced punters.

I keep seeing comments popping up about how remarkably flawless Prossies with no negs or neuts for session performances must be.  I know this is not true because there are 3 forum darlings that I've had sessions with that if I had reviewed them; I would have rated them as a straight negative (she's retired now), medium neutral and low neutral respectively.  I also noticed recently a thread for a very popular forum darling that at least 3 members mentioned on her recent review that her standards have slipped and that she clockwatches.  There are some members who are more cold blooded so review all their experiences and should be commended for that but others like me sometimes can't be bothered because they find it too taxing too write about a bad experience or don't think the SP was a complete bitch and don't want to take away business from her.

You should expect from forum darlings with flawless feedback, at least the following:
* They tend to be good communicators.
* Good time keepers.
* Have competent (not necessarily great) skills in the bedroom.
* They do care about you getting a good experience.  Maybe for their rep or they like to make guys happy.  I'm not sure.

But they have bad habits like other SPs, such as:
* They clockwatch.
* Though they listen to you and understand your requests.  They may let you down gently even though they promised to fulfill them.
* Low energy if not in the right mood.

Their looks are often exaggerated by fluffy reviews.  I cracked myself up laughing about how some of the SPs that I have seen have been described.  Some by members who clearly understand the game and have been doing this for years but were just way off in their descriptions.  I'm convinced it must be some kind of fetish for some to fantasize about what they want the SPs that they have seen to look like.

So yeah forum darlings maybe be better than the average SP but might not knock your socks off.  You need to sift out the reviews from the fluffies, white knights, punters with benefits, the peer pressured punters and guys with low expectations to get a realistic idea of what a possible meet might be like.  And, ultimately only see them if you are attracted to them or they provide a unique service that you want not based off of some myth that they make every guy they see happy.  If you don't end up liking a session with them; there's nothing wrong with you.  I read a lot of reviews with guys doubting themselves.  No sometimes they just don't bring it.  Don't put SPs on a pedestal without even seeing them.

This was a good thread by Sparta Prada based on a similar topic:  https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=136589.0

[silver rider]

If a WG has a very long immaculate fb record it would be a shame to spoil it if the girl had a bad day or there had been a mismatch of personalities, all those positives cant be wrong, but being new to the game i am looking for girls who are most likely to be compatible with me and my tastes not anybody  else, bearing in mind 1st meetings can be clumsy anyway its worth going for a low feedback girl, you never know and you might just be nicely surprised! 

[sparkus]

To be honest, other than red flags and anatomical info, I take what others say with a pinch of salt or just don't care.

So silver rider is bang on the money here.  Truly YMMV.

[OakTree]

If a WG has a very long immaculate fb record it would be a shame to spoil it if the girl had a bad day or there had been a mismatch of personalities, all those positives cant be wrong, but being new to the game i am looking for girls who are most likely to be compatible with me and my tastes not anybody  else, bearing in mind 1st meetings can be clumsy anyway its worth going for a low feedback girl, you never know and you might just be nicely surprised! 

An odd approach to say the least. You do say you are new to the game and I suggest your outlook may be a touch naive.

Once you've blown a few hundred if not thousands on shit punts, her immaculate record may pale into insignificance.

[berksboy]

So they clockwatch ? no bad thing as long as they can tell the time ! If i pay for 30min i want 30 min not 20 is that so much to ask for ? They always take 10min to put the money away or is that so they can take a pick me up 

[Steely Dan]

How dare you?

Vague accusations help no one.  Name any of the escorts you think are poor (and why). And if you are accusing another member of posting something inaccurate, post it on the thread (with evidence.)

As far as we know you have seen 2 escorts (and reviewed a 3rd that you didn't see, let alone fuck) .  Not clear your definition of 'forum darling', but if you have seen them, you are welcome to post a review.  Otherwise, you comments have no weight.

There are 6344 reviews on here this year.  I think these 6341 posts (I subtract your 3 since I now questions your motives and judgement) are among the most reliable guides to escorts there are.  If you think otherwise, you are welcome to join another forum. Log off and don't log back on. Bye, we miss you already.

Me? I stand by every word I wrote on all of my reviews.  YMMV, but those are my actual experiences.  I think the posters of the other 6331 reviews will feel the same.

(Note Sparta didn't questions others, didn't name call and has a clear track record.  His thread was fine.)

[Jas1975]

Surely if you have a terrible experience (for reasons which are not your fault) then it is unfair to not review this to allow others to make a more informed view?! 

[mcgee121]

How dare you?

Vague accusations help no one.  Name any of the escorts you think are poor (and why). And if you are accusing another member of posting something inaccurate, post it on the thread (with evidence.)

As far as we know you have seen 2 escorts (and reviewed a 3rd that you didn't see, let alone fuck) .  Not clear your definition of 'forum darling', but if you have seen them, you are welcome to post a review.  Otherwise, you comments have no weight.

There are 6344 reviews on here this year.  I think these 6341 posts (I subtract your 3 since I now questions your motives and judgement) are among the most reliable guides to escorts there are.  If you think otherwise, you are welcome to join another forum. Log off and don't log back on. Bye, we miss you already.

Me? I stand by every word I wrote on all of my reviews.  YMMV, but those are my actual experiences.  I think the posters of the other 6331 reviews will feel the same.

Reviews are not obligatory.  I don't consider none of the SPs I was referring to as a poor SP per se.  The one I negged I would consider a hustler.  It's not my job to call out other members who I think have wildly exaggerated the looks of a SP I have seen.  I use the forum to find the best girls and for some banter not to pick fights.  There are a lot of reviewers that I respect and learn a lot from on UKP.

[mcgee121]

Surely if you have a terrible experience (for reasons which are not your fault) then it is unfair to not review this to allow others to make a more informed view?!

Don't you start  .  Where's your review  ?

[OakTree]

Reviews are not obligatory.  I don't consider none of the SPs I was referring to as a poor SP per se.  The one I negged I would consider a hustler.  It's not my job to call out other members who I think have wildly exaggerated the looks of a SP I have seen.  I use the forum to find the best girls and for some banter not to pick fights.  There are a lot of reviewers that I respect and learn a lot from on UKP.

You sound like you're back peddling.

Were you just playing to the crowd?

[Steely Dan]

It's not my job to call out other members who I think have wildly exaggerated the looks of a SP I have seen.

You just did, but in a vague way accusing the whole lot of us.

I use the forum to find the best girls and for some banter

Take take take.  Glad you 'use' the forum, good for you.

not to pick fights.

until now when you picked a fight with those who have reviewed 'forum darlings'  A term you still have not defined.

[mcgee121]

You sound like you're back peddling.

Were you just playing to the crowd?

What crowd lmao?  Where did I backpedal in what I wrote?  In summary, I wrote not to overrate forum darlings and gave reasons why.  I will not comment on this thread again because I don't need the attention that you think I need  .  I'm sure some members will get some value out of it so that's why I made the thread.

[The Outsider]

Other advice to newbies:

Watch out for posters who are too scared to review "forum darlings". 

[timsussex]

YMMV
I'll say it again. YMMV

Because
1) All punters are human - your stunner may be my OK looker,  I hate heavy smokers you have your own preferences

2) if you meet me at work on a day when the boss has just shouted at me because of something someone else did or my cat died - I won't be at my best - similarly even the best wgs have bad hours -they are only human as well

But they best wgs still give an OK service on their bad days - they don't rip you off - perhaps you come away thinking you just didn't click....

And that's the beauty of ukp - if one girl has 5 reviews 4 positive and 1 neutral and another has 1 positive and 4 negative then its not difficult to draw a conclusion

[kamu]

I'm sure some members will get some value out of it so that's why I made the thread.

All I got out of it is you whinging about what other people chose to put in their reviews?

[Aj280]

What crowd lmao?  Where did I backpedal in what I wrote?  In summary, I wrote not to overrate forum darlings and gave reasons why.  I will not comment on this thread again because I don't need the attention that you think I need  .  I'm sure some members will get some value out of it so that's why I made the thread.

The post is a little too vague to be useful. It also comes across as a little aggressive. Like you wanted to have a whine at the way certain punters on this site are reviewing (popular)girls.

[poseidon]

If you've seen a "forum darling" and found her service to be less than positive then post a neutral or negative review and say what you didn't like about the punt.

[Steely Dan]

He has seen a forum darling.  Our 3 point scale was not enough for him so he was so gushing:

Rating: Exceptional Positive.  She exceeded my expectations of what a good session could be like.

Weird that his experience was in line with (or above) the fluffy, WK, punter w/benefits, peer pressured, idiots that he seems to disrespect when he sees a top girl. But when others post an ordinary positive of a top girl, they are suspect with no evidence. 

[pking_paul]

I find the same with civvies mind you - never ever perfect 

[mcgee121]

He has seen a forum darling.  Our 3 point scale was not enough for him so he was so gushing:

Weird that his experience was in line with (or above) the fluffy, WK, punter w/benefits, peer pressured, idiots that he seems to disrespect when he sees a top girl. But when others post an ordinary positive of a top girl, they are suspect with no evidence.

You're clearly bent out of shape over this thread for some reason.  I'm not the only member that qualifies the different ratings.  You keep "reaching" which means making baseless claims against me and going off topic.  If you think all reviews have the same merit than that is your opinion.  I regularly praise well written and thoughtful reviews.  No where did I claim that if a member makes a positive review of a top girl, they are suspect with no evidence.  I don't do subliminals if I wanted to diss members for making poor reviews.  I would have explicitly made a thread about it.  That was not the purpose of this thread.  I only care about the quality of members' reviews, in so far, as there usefulness to me.  I'm not on some crusade to get members to write better reviews  .

My review of Holly was one of high praise and I did my best to explain my reasons why.  I think most people would agree that it was not a fluff piece.  If you detest this thread so much let it die and stop bumping it.

[Malvolio]

If you have doubts about another punter's review, just post on it.  Not much point in making vague complaints on the main forum. 

[Steely Dan]

yes I should not state that things you say are not true.  really I am reaching. I only wish there was some evidence that not everything you say is true. if only....

I will not comment on this thread again

Anyway, topic was about the integrity of reviews.  You have 3.  So I mentioned 2 of them so far.  How is making comments about your reviews off topic, when the topic is you think UKP reviews are not accurate?  More specifically you think reviews of darlings are not accurate and perhaps too positive. so how is discussing your review of a board darling off topic?

To be clear I believe your review.  I just point out that when you see a top girl you say we should believe your review.  But you think many other reviews must be less accurate than yours. Questioning the integrity of this entire forum.

How dare you.

[mrfishyfoo]

You should expect from forum darlings with flawless feedback, at least the following:
* They tend to be good communicators.
* Good time keepers.
* Have competent (not necessarily great) skills in the bedroom.
* They do care about you getting a good experience.  Maybe for their rep or they like to make guys happy.  I'm not sure.

But they have bad habits like other SPs, such as:
* They clockwatch.
* Though they listen to you and understand your requests.  They may let you down gently even though they promised to fulfill them.
* Low energy if not in the right mood.

You've changed your tune. 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=142157.msg1571601#msg1571601

What sort of twats do you take us for on here ??

[mrfishyfoo]

If you have doubts about another punter's review, just post on it.  Not much point in making vague complaints on the main forum.

Fuck that for a game of soldiers. If she's a darling go fuck her and see if the hype is true !!!!!

Then review it as it ACTUALLY happened. 

[mcgee121]

You've changed your tune. 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=142157.msg1571601#msg1571601

What sort of twats do you take us for on here ??

Fishy that comment was about regulars this thread was about forum darlings.

[mrfishyfoo]

Fishy that comment was about regulars this thread was about forum darlings.

I'm struggling to "see" the difference. 

A number of my favourite "toys" are forum darlings.

[mcgee121]

yes I should not state that things you say are not true.  really I am reaching. I only wish there was some evidence that not everything you say is true. if only....Anyway, topic was about the integrity of reviews.  You have 3.  So I mentioned 2 of them so far.  How is making comments about your reviews off topic, when the topic is you think UKP reviews are not accurate?  More specifically you think reviews of darlings are not accurate and perhaps too positive. so how is discussing your review of a board darling off topic?

To be clear I believe your review.  I just point out that when you see a top girl you say we should believe your review.  But you think many other reviews must be less accurate than yours. Questioning the integrity of this entire forum.

How dare you.

I did comment again because you accused me of making a fluffy review and that I was dissing all reviewers.  But I lost interest in this thread yesterday.  The topic was not the integrity of reviews.  The topic was don't believe the hype about the phenomena of perfect forum darlings.  And, I don't think someone should believe any review I write.  When I write one I try to make it as helpful as possible.  People will get different things from it.  The forum has integrity because of debate and people don't blindly accept things.