Has Punting changed your behaviour?

[dorito37]

We all punt. Many of us punt even though we're married. Many of those (me included in this bracket) are happy at home but have little to no sex and use punting as an outlet for this.

Now I realise punting is cheating and that's not exactly great, but it's better than divorce and I've never felt hugely guilty about it. Go figure.

But the other night we were out with work, we got pretty smashed and I found myself sharing a cab home with an ex-colleague and we seemed to spend the whole trip snogging the face of each other. Nothing more after that and while there has been plenty of discussion since, no mention of said snog beyond "We're cool, no worries".

This is not something I've ever done before and never would have considered but while punting evokes not a lot of feeling for me beyond getting my rocks off this has seriously messed with my head. I was confused/guilty/un sure of myself and booked a punt just to clear my head, how's that for irony! Not many places a chap can discuss issues like this but I hoping this was one of them!

What I guess I'm asking, how do you comparing punting to "cheating" and do you feel punting has ever led to do other things you wouldn't usually?

[smiths]

We all punt. Many of us punt even though we're married. Many of those (me included in this bracket) are happy at home but have little to no sex and use punting as an outlet for this.

Now I realise punting is cheating and that's not exactly great, but it's better than divorce and I've never felt hugely guilty about it. Go figure.

But the other night we were out with work, we got pretty smashed and I found myself sharing a cab home with an ex-colleague and we seemed to spend the whole trip snogging the face of each other. Nothing more after that and while there has been plenty of discussion since, no mention of said snog beyond "We're cool, no worries".

This is not something I've ever done before and never would have considered but while punting evokes not a lot of feeling for me beyond getting my rocks off this has seriously messed with my head. I was confused/guilty/un sure of myself and booked a punt just to clear my head, how's that for irony! Not many places a chap can discuss issues like this but I hoping this was one of them!

What I guess I'm asking, how do you comparing punting to "cheating" and do you feel punting has ever led to do other things you wouldn't usually?

I have found punting far safer than having an affair which nearly tore my like apart, because the woman turned out to be a bunny boiler. With punting its no strings and i can come and go in complete anonymity. Obviously its all cheating, i have been doing it all my adult life since i was 19 and being selfish which helps a lot ensures i do as suits me.

Without punting i very much doubt in fact i am certain i wouldnt of had sex with as many women i fancied and i have fulfilled my wildest fantasies as a youth and more.

[Kalium]

What I guess I'm asking, how do you comparing punting to "cheating" and do you feel punting has ever led to do other things you wouldn't usually?

It's an escape from the power that a wife or partner has over you, and misuses.

I found it quite liberating actually. Yes, guilty too, but the positive effect it had on my nerves was worth it.

[Rochdull lad]

What I guess I'm asking, how do you comparing punting to "cheating" and do you feel punting has ever led to do other things you wouldn't usually?

I've said a number of times on here that, if I were in a relationship, I couldn't punt because I'd see it as cheating and I'm a rotten liar.  On the other hand, the confidence I've developed with women I've punted has rubbed off on my attitude with women in civvy street.

[philboi]

The thing is, with 'cheating' unlike punting it can very easily get out of hand, as dorito seems to be encountering..
I believe it's a mind thing.. Cheating is real life, whereas punting is a fantasy, and if you stick to the fantasy then things 'should' be alright!!!!

[Silver Birch]

I justify my punting (to myself) by only booking pro$$ies that can offer something I cannot get at home, such as a black girl, a-levels etc.

Not sure the missus would see that as a justifiable reason  and I don't know which she would consider worse, me shagging prostitutes or having an affair.

Either way there would be no forgiveness.

[fredpunter]

During my long married life I have had two or three 'platonic' affairs, all of which may have got physical but I bottled it as I never had any intention of leaving my misses, and felt guilty about her and the other girl involved. But punting I can do without any qualms at all, cos its not real!

[Jimmyredcab]

The thing is, with 'cheating' unlike punting it can very easily get out of hand.

Punting can also get out of hand --------------- some guys punt far more than they can truly afford, in the end their family will suffer.

[Inna]

Punting can also get out of hand --------------- some guys punt far more than they can truly afford, in the end their family will suffer.

JRB hasn't changed

[dorito37]

The ex-colleague is a good mate of mine and pretty hot to boot and if I'm really totally honest with myself if sex had been offered, I probably would have gone for goal. But I think in my pre-punting days I doubt I would have even considered it.

[steviemac]

The thing is, with 'cheating' unlike punting it can very easily get out of hand, as dorito seems to be encountering..
I believe it's a mind thing.. Cheating is real life, whereas punting is a fantasy, and if you stick to the fantasy then things 'should' be alright!!!!

Wow so you don't see booking prossie as a cheating?  So if you're wife books male escort for sex that would be ok?

Course it's cheating, probably even worse than meeting a lass in a pub because your paying for it, not that i'm hating.  If your comfortable with that good for you.  I have lots of mates who go behind their gf's back on a night out, i just turn a blind eye to it.

I wouldn't do it personally though.

[k]

It's an escape from the power that a wife or partner has over you, and misuses.

I found it quite liberating actually. Yes, guilty too, but the positive effect it had on my nerves was worth it.

I like this answer.

[Vortex77]

Both are clearly cheating. how ever I think cheating with someone in real life can often be worse than cheating with an escort. There is more emotion and attachment tied into the first(unless of course it's a one night stand) whereas with the latter it's strictly sex and fantasy with hardly any emotional bonds and attachment tied into it.

[steviemac]

Both are clearly cheating. how ever I think cheating with someone in real life can often be worse than cheating with an escort. There is more emotion and attachment tied into the first(unless of course it's a one night stand) whereas with the latter it's strictly sex and fantasy with hardly any emotional bonds and attachment tied into it.

I ment worse as in your actually going looking for it and paying someone to have sex with you, how does that look on your girlfriend/wife? She'll probably look at it like she's not pleasing you sexually.

Yet cheating, can just be one of those things, most of the time in drink -  Put it this way if my gf turned around to me and said she payed for a male escort, think that would fuck me off more than if she told me she kissed or had sex with a random dude in a club.

[Jedi Apprentice]

@steviemac   You see WG's but you never fuck them!  Is it that fucking is cheating but other sexual acts are not? Whatever floats your boat my friend, but please indulge me, and explain your logic? 

[Vortex77]

I ment worse as in your actually going looking for it and paying someone to have sex with you, how does that look on your girlfriend/wife? She'll probably look at it like she's not pleasing you sexually.

Yet cheating, can just be one of those things, most of the time in drink, put it this way if my gf turned around to me and said she payed for a male escort, think that would fuck me off more than if she told me she kissed or had sex with a random dude in a club.

Yeah the gf would definitely look it like that if it wasn't explained.. But if my gf(I'm single now btw) had said she wanted to see male escorts to explore her sexuality and to have some variety and she'd let me do the same, I don't think I'd have a problem with it so long as she was being safe.

[smiths]

Both are clearly cheating. how ever I think cheating with someone in real life can often be worse than cheating with an escort. There is more emotion and attachment tied into the first(unless of course it's a one night stand) whereas with the latter it's strictly sex and fantasy with hardly any emotional bonds and attachment tied into it.

Yes both are clearly cheating, even those punters who think that by only having a Massage with the WG wanking him off isnt, it is, but they persuade themselves it isnt in some cases.

IMO it would depend on the partner what they would see as worse, an affair or having a punt. WGs are looked on by some as dirty filthy skanks, that wont go down well with some women who might think he has chosen such a woman over me.

An affair of course might have an emotional attachment thats formed so some women might view that as far worse than a punt.

[Vortex77]

Yes both are clearly cheating, even those punters who think that by only having a Massage with the WG wanking him off isnt, it is, but they persuade themselves it isnt in some cases.

IMO it would depend on the partner what they would see as worse, an affair or having a punt. WGs are looked on by some as dirty filthy skanks, that wont go down well with some women who might think he has chosen such a woman over me.

An affair of course might have an emotional attachment thats formed so some women might view that as far worse than a punt.

Lol I know someone exactly in that situation(plus married) who tells himself he isn't cheating but simply getting de-stressed by getting a message and HJ lol.

[steviemac]

@steviemac   You see WG's but you never fuck them!  Is it that fucking is cheating but other sexual acts are not? Whatever floats your boat my friend, but please indulge me, and explain your logic?

What the hell are you talking about and what logic? I'm single, i can do what i want.

[smiths]

Lol I know someone exactly in that situation(plus married) who tells himself he isn't cheating but simply getting de-stressed by getting a message and HJ lol.

I have read many similar posts over the years on punting forums, its the old Clinton; i didnt have sex with that woman syndrome, maybe not but its still cheating to have a WG wank you off.

[Tailpipe]

I have read many similar posts over the years on punting forums, its the old Clinton; i didnt have sex with that woman syndrome, maybe not but its still cheating to have a WG wank you off.

Smiths

Better get hung for a sheep as a lamb springs to mind 

[smiths]

Smiths

Better get hung for a sheep as a lamb springs to mind 

 

[k]

JRB hasn't changed

What does the "B" stand for? 

[Rochdull lad]

Yes. I thought it was a bit sad that Inna didn't check her post before posting it.

Especially as JRC made a really valid point about how this pastime of ours can lead to misery at home; not just for punters who are married/in a relationship.

Single punters can easily get seduced into spending more on WGs than they can afford; I remember threads on theauto-censored several years ago from  single punters who were spending more than they could afford.  If you're naive, it's easy to fall for a good practitioner of GFE, for example.

[Tailpipe]

JRB hasn't changed

Inna is a singer from Romania , is this a clue .

[rpg]

Inna is a singer from Romania , is this a clue .

Right call me Mr Thicky but I need this explained   

[k]

Right call me Mr Thicky but I need this explained   

I thought it was some kind of "in joke" that I wasn't party to.

[Inna]

Inna is a singer from Romania , is this a clue .

Right call me Mr Thicky but I need this explained   

I have no idea what it is about.

Also my JRB (JRC) comment wasn't meant to be derogatory. I like his direct style and consistency,  we don't always agree but he speaks his mind rather than playing games.

[ForrestGump]

1. I've certainly burned a lot of time on punting-related activities.
2. I've become more accustomed/desensitised to parting with cash for punts. Initially it bothered me much more.
3. I now find myself wondering whether the women I see when out and about are off-duty brass.
4. I've reduced to zero the amount of time I used to spend wondering what it'd be like to have carnal fun with a whole bunch of different casual sexual partners.

[StevenS]

We all punt. Many of us punt even though we're married. Many of those (me included in this bracket) are happy at home but have little to no sex and use punting as an outlet for this.

Now I realise punting is cheating and that's not exactly great, but it's better than divorce and I've never felt hugely guilty about it. Go figure.

But the other night we were out with work, we got pretty smashed and I found myself sharing a cab home with an ex-colleague and we seemed to spend the whole trip snogging the face of each other. Nothing more after that and while there has been plenty of discussion since, no mention of said snog beyond "We're cool, no worries".

This is not something I've ever done before and never would have considered but while punting evokes not a lot of feeling for me beyond getting my rocks off this has seriously messed with my head. I was confused/guilty/un sure of myself and booked a punt just to clear my head, how's that for irony! Not many places a chap can discuss issues like this but I hoping this was one of them!

What I guess I'm asking, how do you comparing punting to "cheating" and do you feel punting has ever led to do other things you wouldn't usually?

Punting is a physical thing. Snogging the girl in a cab had some emotion to it. Punting is paid for and cold transaction. The can snog wasn't. An WG is unlikely to want anything more from you other than a repeat paid visit. The can girl might. Totally different things I think, hence the headfuck

[Mr Smith]

I think it's the availability of the punt and all the variety and freedom it offers that actually keeps me single these days. I have found a place that I am perfectly happy. It's rather unconventional, almost bohemian as a lifestyle but it feels right (for now at least) so I do not intend to change.

The alternative is to cheat and although I could not rule out ever resorting to it (you don't know how your life will pan out) it's not something I want to carry into a relationship with me. Don't get me wrong, I do not judge others on there actions as all our circumstances are different and I 'm sure that for some, punting can actually help to preserve a marriage by providing what is missing from it.

Perhaps in that respect punting has changed my behaviour in that I am never likely to find true happiness with a woman because now I will never look for it.

[touch.and.go]

Punting is a physical thing. Snogging the girl in a cab had some emotion to it. Punting is paid for and cold transaction. The can snog wasn't. An WG is unlikely to want anything more from you other than a repeat paid visit. The can girl might. Totally different things I think, hence the headfuck

I dont think punting is a cold transaction - if she is a regular, then you can easily become friends, your topics of conversation broaden and the whole experience becomes more relaxed and ennjoyable IMO.

[aerofan5]

I'm with you on that T&G.

I find the most rewarding punt is when we have a conversation between shots on goal, usually during a 2 hour punt when I manage it twice.

The main topic seems to be the potted life story, both ways, which is nice and makes for parting friends. OK, some bits may be bullshit or augmented, but it still gives a nice aspect to the punt, even with a first time meeting.

[StevenS]

I dont think punting is a cold transaction - if she is a regular, then you can easily become friends, your topics of conversation broaden and the whole experience becomes more relaxed and ennjoyable IMO.

You're right. I didn't word it well. I think it's easier to frame it as a transaction in your mind to stop the guilt kicking in.

[touch.and.go]

You're right. I didn't word it well. I think it's easier to frame it as a transaction in your mind to stop the guilt kicking in.

I feel no guilt - occasionally disappointment - but not guilt

[GreyDave]

I do not want to ever have an affair, far to complicated and thats cheating and deicption 30 mins of fun or an afternoon on walk ups and £60 down drain is not like the plotting and hidding I ve seen workmates go though.

Just returned from a job and was going back to van when a tall Blonde 20 something in short skirt and heels walked past, a couple of likely lads and one flash guy in a bmeer made cave man noises to her the BMW guy drove after her and stopped trying to chat her up

I just thought to myself W***ers, one like thats about £120-60 an hour fer 2 pops in a 5 miles search of my postcode.

Might just treat myself to one like that next time (If Jimmys not got in off shift )