How to index reviews for SPs not in AW?

[LLPunting]

Have we got an approach for these ladies, as there are more and more on other listing sites skipping AW?

Perhaps we could use the listed mobile number?
This would show up any number swapping/sharing or maid services (or agencies).  Punters doing research would then see if extra caution or reliability resulted from using the "collective".

[CoolTiger]

This has been discussed before, especially regarding VS profiles, but did not get any further. Will try and dig out the thread that I had started a few months ago.

[CoolTiger]

Didn't realise I started the thread 9 months ago!!!

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=237274.0

[scutty brown]

several approaches you could use:
phone number
vivastreet profile number
gumtree profile number

problem is all these are - or can be - short lived transients and indexing them may not be worth the effort

[LLPunting]

several approaches you could use:
phone number
vivastreet profile number
gumtree profile number

problem is all these are - or can be - short lived transients and indexing them may not be worth the effort

Agree, pointless using profile references from GT/VS and any other listing site for transients.  That's why I suggested the phone number because there's still validity in knowing it's been used before by another SP/maid/agency.  Punters doing their due diligence would note the different SPs described against the same number and so should be able to make the correct differentiations.  It also places great value on reviews having pics posted from these non-persistent profiles and punters taking more care to describe the SPs seen.  All round improving quality of intel accumulated.

Those using multiple numbers will eventually be cross-indexed.  The over-counting of reviews isn't really a problem as punters should be noting the date and author of the reviews to consider the currency and reliability of the intel he's evaluating about the SP.

Also if the numbers are captured then searching for them on a search engine will pop all other sites that list it and add to the intel picture for assessment.

[Fully Sated]

I would love 'independent' non Adult Work service providers to be indexed. However, for a start, I would be delighted for agency girls to be indexed, which might be an easier first step. I have noticed an increase, Diva, HOD, Admiral, Babylon etc reviews. Whilst some members will trawl through and add links to previous reviews, the majority do not.

The previous Admin said that he could do this, but it would mean that the site would be down for 30 mins in order for this to be acheived. I very much hope that the current owner considers introducing this feature.

[LLPunting]

I would love 'independent' non Adult Work service providers to be indexed. However, for a start, I would be delighted for agency girls to be indexed, which might be an easier first step. I have noticed an increase, Diva, HOD, Admiral, Babylon etc reviews. Whilst some members will trawl through and add links to previous reviews, the majority do not.

The previous Admin said that he could do this, but it would mean that the site would be down for 30 mins in order for this to be acheived. I very much hope that the current owner considers introducing this feature.

Indexing agency (or parlour or shop) girls would rely on persistent exclusive ids being used for each girl in an agency.  How would that happen?  If indexing where done on non-numerics then the best we could do might be a concatenation of agency name and SP descriptor fields but what would these be given the agency could reuse name, nationality, height, weight, age, size, measurements, etc on other girls.  Without agencies sharing their escort Db key field we could concatenate agency name and SP name and date of first review?  Subsequent reviews would have to be easily associated to that original review.  Returning escorts under new names and agencies would also have to "connectable" but only done when someone recognises her, so we'd have to be diligent about capturing photos of faces and features incl tattoos and piercings.
Given girls can be found across several agencies we'd want to be able to make these connections too (and break them if we got it wrong).
All very manual for us but the best we can do given the inconsistencies of the SP population.

It would be easier for us to index indies with their mobile numbers.  Associating reviews for them using different mobile numbers (and/or names) would be down to recognition by UKPers and again we should capture photos of identifying features diligently. 

[bdyno]

problem is all these are - or can be - short lived transients and indexing them may not be worth the effort

That's true of AW profiles with some girls, so it's as good as we're going to get

[scutty brown]

for AW and Gumtree the only way which would begin to work would be to index both the profile number AND the phone number.
Both are transient, but by logging them both you stand a better chance of recording the history.

Of course it could be a long time before anyone could get round to any required coding, but it seems to me that we could all make a start by ensuring that all future reviews include the full profile link (including the number) and also the phone number in a standard format
Do this for any profile from
AW
Vivastreet
Gumtree
UKAdultzone
and possibly others

always include the AW phone number as it may help cross correlating between multiple profiles.
I almost feel including these should be mandatory on all reviews - anyone else got any thoughts?

[LLPunting]

for AW and Gumtree the only way which would begin to work would be to index both the profile number AND the phone number.
Both are transient, but by logging them both you stand a better chance of recording the history.

Of course it could be a long time before anyone could get round to any required coding, but it seems to me that we could all make a start by ensuring that all future reviews include the full profile link (including the number) and also the phone number in a standard format
Do this for any profile from
AW
Vivastreet
Gumtree
UKAdultzone
and possibly others

always include the AW phone number as it may help cross correlating between multiple profiles.
I almost feel including these should be mandatory on all reviews - anyone else got any thoughts?

Thanks SB, could you screenshot the relevant screen areas where these details are found on these sites (and others you're familiar with)?   

[scutty brown]

Thanks SB, could you screenshot the relevant screen areas where these details are found on these sites (and others you're familiar with)?   

I'm on the wrong computer to do that now, I'll have a look at that tomorrow

[whoya.kiddin]

for AW and Gumtree the only way which would begin to work would be to index both the profile number AND the phone number.
Both are transient, but by logging them both you stand a better chance of recording the history.

Of course it could be a long time before anyone could get round to any required coding, but it seems to me that we could all make a start by ensuring that all future reviews include the full profile link (including the number) and also the phone number in a standard format
Do this for any profile from
AW
Vivastreet
Gumtree
UKAdultzone
and possibly others

always include the AW phone number as it may help cross correlating between multiple profiles.
I almost feel including these should be mandatory on all reviews - anyone else got any thoughts?

I agree with this; including a phone number in national and international formats certainly is not fool proof but it does increase the likelihood of a hit and also throws up profile swopping.  In my experience there are a few SP's on Vivastreet with longstanding profiles but many, many more who last only a few weeks or days before rolling numbers, pictures and names.  This is the reason I avoid Vivastree and gumtree.