Happy ending massage -why?

[daviemac]

No need to be so overly defensive about this.

I am not telling you what you think, only reminding you of what you said.

I couldn't give a rat's arse why you prefer happy ending massages compared to booking an escort. Everyone's different and each to their own.

 

[od13218]

No need to be so overly defensive about this.

I am not telling you what you think, only reminding you of what you said.

I couldn't give a rat's arse why you prefer happy ending massages compared to booking an escort. Everyone's different and each to their own.

Then why are you even on this thread? The title asks exactly the question that you say you don't give a rats arse about.

[sir wanksalot]

Then why are you even on this thread? The title asks exactly the question that you say you don't give a rats arse about.

Because we all have the free will to contribute on any thread we choose. Last time I checked it was an open forum.........

What is it that some of you are not getting ? I said I don't give a shit why some people prefer a HE massage over seeing an escort. I also don't understand why some punters are into watersports or bondage but I'll allowed to express my bafflement as to why some punters do certain things and other don't.

Are we hitting a nerve with some of you ?

[sparkus]

No one needs to pay that much. Do your homework on here and you can get it for not much north of 50.

For those of us who STI contraction would lead to a wardrobe of slashed clothes and/or worse (which is why I don't bang civvies as they're source of them too), b2b HE is the only way to go.

[cigano8]

I would go as far as to say I prefer a FBSM to sex , this does depend on the girl though

[od13218]

Because we all have the free will to contribute on any thread we choose. Last time I checked it was an open forum.........

What is it that some of you are not getting ? I said I don't give a shit why some people prefer a HE massage over seeing an escort. I also don't understand why some punters are into watersports or bondage but I'll allowed to express my bafflement as to why some punters do certain things and other don't.

Are we hitting a nerve with some of you ?

The OP asked why some people do it, as he personally didn't get it. A few explained their reasons, to answer the OPs question. No one is trying to persuade anyone to like something they don't like, obviously. You're perfectly entitled to express your bafflement, but if you say that you don't give a shit about the question being discussed, and contradict people's stated reasons, it's hard to understand why you're bothering to write anything at all. 

[sir wanksalot]

The OP asked why some people do it, as he personally didn't get it. A few explained their reasons, to answer the OPs question. No one is trying to persuade anyone to like something they don't like, obviously. You're perfectly entitled to express your bafflement, but if you say that you don't give a shit about the question being discussed, and contradict people's stated reasons, it's hard to understand why you're bothering to write anything at all.

I don't care if other punters prefer HE massages-it's not like I have any bloody ideological opposition to it but I am curious as to why some choose this service hence why I have written on this topic. Is that ok with you or do you only want to read comments from other punters who 100% agree with your own beliefs ?

I haven't contradicted "people's stated reasons" only questioned Davie's responses to this topic

He said if he wants "anything sexual" then he would see an escort but I consider HE to be a sexual service and I think many others would too.

He also wants a "proper massage" but prefers only women masseurs which is fair enough as I would too. However, if I only ever wanted a "proper massage" then the gender of the masseur would not bother me.

The point I was trying to make (and probably failing) was that it seems many punters yearn for some sexual bonuses when being given a massage as can be seen when you read posts on the topic on other forums.

I'm not against HE massages. I'm not making some grandiose judgement so you and Davie can wind your neck in a little bit.

[od13218]

You've failed not only to make your point but also to grasp anyone else's, so if anyone's neck needs winding in it's yours!

[sparkus]

Sounds like some could do with relaxing a little.  Why not pay a visit to your local massage practitioner and enjoy a nice massage, ended by a slow and satisfying wank?

[daviemac]

I don't care if other punters prefer HE massages-it's not like I have any bloody ideological opposition to it but I am curious as to why some choose this service hence why I have written on this topic. Is that ok with you or do you only want to read comments from other punters who 100% agree with your own beliefs ?

I haven't contradicted "people's stated reasons" only questioned Davie's responses to this topic

He said if he wants "anything sexual" then he would see an escort but I consider HE to be a sexual service and I think many others would too.

He also wants a "proper massage" but prefers only women masseurs which is fair enough as I would too. However, if I only ever wanted a "proper massage" then the gender of the masseur would not bother me.

The point I was trying to make (and probably failing) was that it seems many punters yearn for some sexual bonuses when being given a massage as can be seen when you read posts on the topic on other forums.

I'm not against HE massages. I'm not making some grandiose judgement so you and Davie can wind your neck in a little bit.

You are either just an argumentative twat or you're so thick you don't understand plain English.

Last time, try and understand this time. What you would do is your choice, what I do is mine. Try and take note of what I post in the context it's posted, don't select the bits that suit you.

If, on any given day, I want sexual activity, I book an escort because they are the best at providing that. Sexual activity = escort.

If, on another day,  I want a proper massage I book a qualified masseuse and my preference is a female one. If it wouldn't bother you seeing a male that's you choice, but don't tell me I should think the same as you, I only want massages from females.

If during the course of the massage she offers a HE then I will accept, however that is not what I set out to get and am quite happy for that not to happen. I have already stated the a wank is a sexual service and those providing it are prostitutes, just some are also fully qualified masseuses.

I have answered the question asked in this thread from my point of view, I do not speak for any others. Yet you keep saying you don't believe me and you doubt what I'm saying.

What others do or post about on other threads is up to them, this is my reply to why I go for massages and my opinion on it. If you aren't prepared to believe it why ask in the first place.     

[bigmanbigman]

Look each to their own some punters visit lap dance and strip clubs
Their money their choice .

[joe diddley]

Sounds like some could do with relaxing a little.  Why not pay a visit to your local massage practitioner and enjoy a nice massage, ended by a slow and satisfying wank?

I know this wasn't addressed to me but you've talked me into it!

[sparkus]

I know this wasn't addressed to me but you've talked me into it!

Talked myself into it too. I think OP is a tout for the TCM trade on that basis.

Now for the buyer's remorse.

[Jonestown]

You are either just an argumentative twat or you're so thick you don't understand plain English.

As my old boss used to say, never get in a pissing contest with a skunk.

[Boinky]

My father used to say..

Never argue with an idiot.
First, they drag you down to their level. Then they beat you with experience.

[daviemac]

My father used to say..

Never argue with an idiot.
First, they drag you down to their level. Then they beat you with experience.

Very true.   

[od13218]

Very true.   

Or to put it another way: never argue with an idiot, because at best all you achieve is winning an argument with an idiot.

[maxxblue]

Or to put it another way: never argue with an idiot, because at best all you achieve is winning an argument with an idiot.

Where is SW, by the way? 

[sir wanksalot]

Where is SW, by the way? 

I'm still here and following the general advice of not arguing with an idiot 

[megaman]

I have recently been going to massage parlours and just asking for massages and blows and hand jobs nothing more i dont brother with sex I refuse. Ive Been doing this at At your service in brum it's cheap enough but the ladys are getting pissed off I guess because it's not the right places too go. But the thing is I'm paying with my money so why do the girls get angry?
I been too at your service few more times seen the same girl refused sex just asked for massages, blow job, hand job the girl told me she don't want too see me anymore and I'm worried that I'm going too be black listed from massage parlours now.

[sparkus]

I've not seen it that negative, but a few WGs have been 'disappointed' to not be asked for sex. I suspect it's more because they can just lay back and think of Romania rather than anything libidinous.

[Bobbaloo]

A lady may be a fully trained psychiatrist and counsel me for 25 mins before giving me a blow job. It doesn't make it any less of a sexual service though.

This needs to be a thing

[webpunter]

A couple of burds - who do FS & also massages at a reduced rate - mentioned that more effort on their part when it comes to no sex.  As in easy to make punters shoot their bolt if they so decided [with FS].  And fairly rapidly.  Some of the punters coming back for more.  Whereas with massage only, maybe with OW / OWO thrown in they have to think about what the punter wants & likes.  Well assuming they decide that if the punters wants to re-book they'd go for it.  I must have been on the approved list.  Coz repeat visits have been typically 

I've not seen it that negative, but a few WGs have been 'disappointed' to not be asked for sex. I suspect it's more because they can just lay back and think of Romania rather than anything libidinous.

[Torarica]

1. Arguably, a HE massage is less risky for STIs/STDs than FS with a WG.

2. Many guys (sometimes younger punters) enjoy the full 100 experience of WG and can't get off with just a HJ, while some guys it's the opposite. Just as some guys don't get off by oral. I can relate my experience but see point 3 below...

3. YES! Some folks on this board seem a bit too defensive when (newer) punters stop lerking and start contributing more to the discussions. I myself had to back away from another thread because of this very reason. Some guys feel entitled to 'ownership' of UKP and it's thought process 😞.

[Titti Tatti]

My father used to say..

Never argue with an idiot.
First, they drag you down to their level. Then they beat you with experience.

And from the outside no one can tell who's the idiot.

[bigmanbigman]

So you never know who the idiot is in the room .

[snaitram99]

Surprised this thread is still going. Some people enjoy a proper massage, followed by HE if offered. 

Don't know why some can't just accept that this is the case, although it doesn't appeal to them. 

Some people like things that I personally find unappealing (e.g. domination or water sports) but I don't feel compelled to query how anyone could want these. 

[Cupid Stuntz]

Surprised this thread is still going. Some people enjoy a proper massage, followed by HE if offered. 

Don't know why some can't just accept that this is the case, although it doesn't appeal to them. 

Some people like things that I personally find unappealing (e.g. domination or water sports) but I don't feel compelled to query how anyone could want these. 

Indeed "Horses for Courses". I vote with the HE massage crew, and always go for HR with a bit of OR when with a 'proper' WG too unless they really do want to have penetrative sex. Then I'm game for it  .

[sir wanksalot]

Surprised this thread is still going. Some people enjoy a proper massage, followed by HE if offered. 

Don't know why some can't just accept that this is the case, although it doesn't appeal to them. 

Why are you surprised ? It's not like the OP hijacked the Happy Ending review thread. He started a new thread asking why some punters prefer HE. Some people gave their opinions and thoughts. One person gives a mixed reason for preferring only a "proper massage" but when questioned becomes defensive.

There are things I enjoy in a punt that others may not. If questioned I would accept that as someone has already said that it is horses for courses and we don't all like the same thing or for the same reasons.

[snaitram99]

Why are you surprised ? It's not like the OP hijacked the Happy Ending review thread.

What HE review thread would that be? Anyway maybe I should be more surprised that the OP hasn't come back (unless he has more than one account    )

There are things I enjoy in a punt that others may not. If questioned I would accept that as someone has already said that it is horses for courses and we don't all like the same thing or for the same reasons.

so we seem to be in agreement then. 

[sir wanksalot]

What HE review thread would that be?

This one ???

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=35511.0

[candec]

When I first started punting it was all about screwing. A hand job was something I could do myself!  Further down the line, it is a good way to come out feeling totally relaxed. I prefer it when the girl removes her bra when you are laying on your front so that only see/feel them when you turn over. The hand job has to be to your liking, not too firm or too soft and slow and sensually.

[sparkus]

When I first started punting it was all about screwing. A hand job was something I could do myself!  Further down the line, it is a good way to come out feeling totally relaxed. I prefer it when the girl removes her bra when you are laying on your front so that only see/feel them when you turn over. The hand job has to be to your liking, not too firm or too soft and slow and sensually.

Same here.  However, I was a gradual convert to b2b/rub and tug as there (was) a thrill about WSWS and even with a regular, the build up to b2b is a lot more sensual than a quick pump and dump shag (which have their uses, just wait until the missus goes away soon).

[sir wanksalot]

Do you think part of the thrill is not knowing what you might get ?

[joe diddley]

Do you think part of the thrill is not knowing what you might get ?

Yes, for many of us that's undoubtedly the case. It's the WSWS (will she? won't she?) factor that many (though not all) FBSM enthusiasts go for.

[maxxblue]

Do you think part of the thrill is not knowing what you might get ?

You coming around to the idea?

[snaitram99]

This one ???

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=35511.0

Specific to the North West!

[daviemac]

Specific to the North West!

I don't think there's a national one, only local, I believe the NE one is the biggest thread on the site, been going 4 years, 269 pages, 6706 replies and over 1 million views. What do I know about it though.   

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=17746.0

[candec]

Do you think part of the thrill is not knowing what you might get ?

Definitely in regard to the Chinese Medicine places. A hand job, especially topless wasn't guaranteed although sometimes they'd come out into the street to lure you in! I had several good sessions in some of those establishments.

[snaitram99]

Definitely in regard to the Chinese Medicine places.

You are almost certain of HE in TCM places. Less so with Thai - can need a few visits, but massage is better usually.

[snaitram99]

I don't think there's a national one, only local,

exactly!

Jealous of NE and NW now 

but as I am unlikely to go there any time soon I don't read those sections, so don't know why someone  expects me to be familiar with them.

[Chorley]

I've been having regular massages for several years due to a persistent back injury.
In all those years I've only been offered HE once, which I took up and enjoyed. I've even been to places that I later found out had masseuse who offered extras but just got a massage. That's fine, as I wasn't looking for more TBH.
 Even when I went to Thailand I wasn't offered anything extra by the masseuse.

 Maybe I'm just an ugly cunt? 

[bigmanbigman]

All punters like different things and are happy with the level they are on ie
Porn
Cam
Massage
He
Sex
Bdsm
Etc

[mr.bluesky]

All punters like different things and are happy with the level they are on ie
Porn
Cam
Massage
He
Sex
Bdsm
Etc

Well said that man , we are all different and look for different ways to get our thrills
 

[Autopunter]

I do like a great slow erotic massage, but the idea of going into a handjob place and skipping the massage part does have a certain appeal about it. Has anyone tried this in a London massage parlour that offers HE? Usually they won't discuss that over the phone in case it's the rozzers and the desk always asks for a massage, meaning you have to talk to the girl about it in the room. How do you get past that obstacle? Just risk them saying no at the desk?

[Speed Racer]

I play a LOT of sport and massage is a necessary part of our recovery process.

If anyone thinks they're going to a chinese rub and tug place for "treatment for injuries" or "to sort out a problem", then you've got to be out of your mind. A proper sports massage or rehab massage can be and often is extraordinarily painful, and I wouldn't trust most of these "qualified massage therapists" to rub a lamp.

However, if you are after a relaxing massage, then no doubt these places serve a purpose and a very enjoyable one at that. I go for regular appointments at the same place so there's no WSWS going on, and I tend to find that most other places I've visited have been a let down. That said, I have had a massage that turned into an edging hj that provided one of the most intense finishes I've ever had.
Its that aspect of being"serviced" for want of a better word that is quite fulfilling in an entirely different way to FS.

[Phaedrus]

During my first ten years of punting, I used to go for HE 95% of the time because I felt "bad" or "guilty" about FS but not about a FMHE. That's changed a lot since then partly because I've since changed and partly because of the decline of the parlour and the rise of AW where unlike parlours most aw girls don't know how to give a decent tug and rub. As I write I miss a good massage HE and would like to try it out again.

[MSanders]

For me, four main reasons:

1. The wsws element, but quite often that means only visiting a place once or twice (unless they have a high staff turnover) before getting bored/predictable.

2. Pure laziness - sometimes it's more attractive to have no expectation that I need to do any work.

3. Hard to explain, but the simplicity of the exchange is also attractive. It feels like a professional experience with no overlap/blurred lines with non wg experiences.

4. Something about it appeals to my submissive side. Generally I cum within minutes/seconds with a hj and this normally receives a wry smile/laugh from the woman.

[mr.bluesky]

As the saying goes " you can beat an egg but you can't beat a good wank" 

[sparkus]

For me, four main reasons:

1. The wsws element, but quite often that means only visiting a place once or twice (unless they have a high staff turnover) before getting bored/predictable.

2. Pure laziness - sometimes it's more attractive to have no expectation that I need to do any work.

3. Hard to explain, but the simplicity of the exchange is also attractive. It feels like a professional experience with no overlap/blurred lines with non wg experiences.

4. Something about it appeals to my submissive side. Generally I cum within minutes/seconds with a hj and this normally receives a wry smile/laugh from the woman.

All of the above really, though I do get off on sexual activity with women in their (non-brothel) place of work (even better if they own the shop!).  It's a chance to experience/explore female bodies too, whereas I prefer sex with OH or the occasional civvy.  A few years back I took up FS offers but shops aren't really cut out for that (so I limit myself to barely a handful each year of FS and give them a handful the rest of the time).

I'm not in for a quick HJ with just anyone, there has to be attraction and the added bonus of a decent rack etc.  Which does limit my options.