Putting on a Condom: whose responsibility OP or SP?

[penisilin]

Pardon me if this topic turns out to be controversial, nevertheless, I'd like to know people's views on whose responsibility it is to put on a Condom for a punt or meet as it's called in SA.

For my 10+yrs of punting, I've always relied on SP to provide the condom and hint me to put it on before penetration but on one occasion a few weeks ago, I guess I had too much drink before meeting a girl from SA and before I realised I had cum inside her without protection. She didn't appear worried, she just said her period is coming so no need to worry about her getting pregnant. In my mind I'm like 'what about the risk of contracting an STI'? I left worried and thought perhaps it was my responsibility to ensure I used a Condom or maybe it's different when seeing a girl from SA than a proper WG. I've decided now to be going for every meet or punt with backup CD's but it's risky kind of inconveniencing to do so to be honest. Not sure how other OP's get around this.

It's 3 weeks since the event and I tested negative for all STI's based on full sexual health check - I'll see my status in 3 months hopefully I'm a lucky man and dodged a bullet.

[jakplo22]

In my humble opinion, if you're too drunk to remember to put on a condom you shouldn't be having sex anyway. Was she drunk as well?

[berksboy]

Both.

[daviemac]

You are responsible for your own sexual health, no one else.

[penisilin]

In my humble opinion, if you're too drunk to remember to put on a condom you shouldn't be having sex anyway. Was she drunk as well?

Agreed! Ok, my bad - never mind!

[scutty brown]

Your health, your responsibility, your problem.
Especially if you get her pregnant

[scouting]

I can't believe you asked this question. It's always your own responsibility to ensure safe sex, even though professional SP's will do it for you.

I hope your moniker doesn't become appropriate   

[Stevelondon]

What’s the difference between a SA girl and a SP………… as far as shagging is concerned it’s nowt.
Sex is sex.

Jeez…………. If you’re worrying about STD’s AFTER you’ve fucked bareback. I suggest you rethink your strategy. Possibly stop drinking too.

[southcoastpunter]

bloody hell - there are some dumb questions coming onto UKP nowdays!!

so, OP, you let the SP decide whether you are having BB sex or not?? Of course its your responsibility to ensure you do whatever you are comfortable doing. If that is BB then ok, not for most of us on here but let it be a conscious decision not chance depending oin the SP. If you are not comfortable doing BB then make sure you always have a condom and that its on!!

[Doc Holliday]

What’s the difference between a SA girl and a SP………… as far as shagging is concerned it’s nowt.
Sex is sex.

Indeed. Recent threads seem to suggest that SA/SB encounters appear to be far closer to what takes place with civvy casual hookups where routine condom use is far from the norm.

Many studies show that men are more likely to avoid using a condom than women (although the difference isn't large) so there is more likelihood the female will make the decision.

In casual sex encounters it may be that one partner will have a dominant stance on always using a condom and the other agrees, but if that's not the case then both may wait and see what the other does? This is of course is more likely to result in no condom being used. Many studies also show that for both sexes alcohol or other substance abuse will heavily influence such decision making in a negative way.

Which brings us to punting. Condom use for penetrative sex remains the norm and contrasts significantly with casual sex outside of prostitution. To enable this good practice to occur the the SP will control condom use and the SS generally goes along with this.

IMO this is just as well as if you imagine a hypothetical situation where it was left to the punter to decide, then condom use would be be greatly affected.

[Tom1976]

I always let the lady put the condom on: watching her do it to ensure there is no massage oil etc on her hands and also to ensure she is doing it right.

If there is a mishap during the intercourse- if you haven’t actually touched the condom - it can’t be your fault.

[penisilin]

Indeed. Recent threads seem to suggest that SA/SB encounters appear to be far closer to what takes place with civvy casual hookups where routine condom use is far from the norm.

Many studies show that men are more likely to avoid using a condom than women (although the difference isn't large) so there is more likelihood the female will make the decision.

In casual sex encounters it may be that one partner will have a dominant stance on always using a condom and the other agrees, but if that's not the case then both may wait and see what the other does? This is of course is more likely to result in no condom being used. Many studies also show that for both sexes alcohol or other substance abuse will heavily influence such decision making in a negative way.

Which brings us to punting. Condom use for penetrative sex remains the norm and contrasts significantly with casual sex outside of prostitution. To enable this good practice to occur the the SP will control condom use and the SS generally goes along with this.

IMO this is just as well as if you imagine a hypothetical situation where it was left to the punter to decide, then condom use would be be greatly affected.

Very many thanks for this detailed response, I agree with all said here. Many of us have relied on SP to do the condoms and I feel that's how it should be. Nonetheless, from this experience I will always have a Condom handy and use it in case OP doesn't do as expected. Those saying it's OP's responsibility, I pray you never fall into the hands of an SP or SB who after you've paid, and gotten aroused to the point of penetration only to realise there's no CD - It's easier to say walk than it is at that point and then you may agree SP should have some responsibility. No one goes into a punt asking "by the way do you have condom" because it's an expectation that SP should have and imo ensure it's on.

I know it's controversial but each to their own.

[RandomGuy99]

It's your responsibility to put a condom on.

You shouldn't need your partner to suggest to you to put a condom on.

I once an SP position herself to lower herself on my cock when I wasn't wearing a condom. I jumped him and put one on myself. I prefer to put the condom on myself as I then know it's on properly.

[Strawberry]

It's your responsibility to put a condom on.

You shouldn't need your partner to suggest to you to put a condom on.

I once an SP position herself to lower herself on my cock when I wasn't wearing a condom. I jumped him and put one on myself. I prefer to put the condom on myself as I then know it's on properly.

You may wish to check your words here 

[penisilin]

It's your responsibility to put a condom on.

You shouldn't need your partner to suggest to you to put a condom on.

I once an SP position herself to lower herself on my cock when I wasn't wearing a condom. I jumped him and put one on myself. I prefer to put the condom on myself as I then know it's on properly.

In that instance you were lucky to have had your own CD or maybe the SP had one.

It's almost like going to a restaurant with your own cutlery, who on earth does that? Or taking chalk to class when you're not the teacher. Maybe not the best analogies but close. I think the summary is that an SP MUST provide a CD and either put it on OP or prompt OP to use it especially if BB was not agreed in advance.

[KatieEdinburgh]

It's almost like going to a restaurant with your own cutlery, who on earth does that? Or taking chalk to class when you're not the teacher. Maybe not the best analogies but close. I think the summary is that an SP MUST provide a CD and either put it on OP or prompt OP to use it especially if BB was not agreed in advance.

Btw CD usually is short for Crossdresser, not Condoms

But yes. Whilst I agree with professional escort she should always provide and usually put on the condom, that’s fine, it’s their job as professionals

Where you’re going wrong is assuming Sugar Babies will have the same attitude as escorts. I know you even referred to them as SPs which was interesting enough. A lot of SBs don’t think of themselves as SPs and yes, condom use is a lot more *optional* in sugar arrangements

[Charlie Chalk]

I always let the lady put the condom on: watching her do it to ensure there is no massage oil etc on her hands and also to ensure she is doing it right.

If there is a mishap during the intercourse- if you haven’t actually touched the condom - it can’t be your fault.

So That’s ok then. You might catch an STI but as long as “it’s not your fault” then no harm done??

If you have a cock then it’s YOUR responsibility not to ensure you wear a condom. No ifs. No buts. Be an adult and take responsibility for your own health.

[penisilin]

Btw CD usually is short for Crossdresser, not Condoms

But yes. Whilst I agree with professional escort she should always provide and usually put on the condom, that’s fine, it’s their job as professionals

Where you’re going wrong is assuming Sugar Babies will have the same attitude as escorts. I know you even referred to them as SPs which was interesting enough. A lot of SBs don’t think of themselves as SPs and yes, condom use is a lot more *optional* in sugar arrangements

CD = crossdresser? I stand corrected, many thanks. As for SB's claiming not to be WG's that's another topic and I think it's dealt with in another thread. I feel most girls on AW also have SB profiles and vice versa, the one thing they have in common is that they get fucked for cash or kind which to me makes them the same. I'm new to SA so thanks for the heads-up on the "optional" use of condoms in SA meets. So for future SA meets I'll take the responsibility and have my condom to hand.
Thanks again for the info.

[DastardlyDick]

If there is a mishap during the intercourse- if you haven’t actually touched the condom - it can’t be your fault.

I don't think that would hold any weight in a paternity suit 

[andyw1969]

I always assume the SP will provide the condoms and all the meets I have had they did.

As for actually putting the condom on me then I prefer the SP to rather than me put it on myself , just personal preference.

However surely both parties should agree if they dont want to wear one and have BB sex ( with all the risks that go with it) .

[marc_hotsteppa]

I always like the SP to put it on me as opposed to putting it on themselves - I prefer it when they don't have a cock, or if they do that it's not bigger than mine   

Joking aside, it's your responsibility to ensure you practice safe sex.

[RandomGuy99]

In that instance you were lucky to have had your own CD or maybe the SP had one.

It's almost like going to a restaurant with your own cutlery, who on earth does that? Or taking chalk to class when you're not the teacher. Maybe not the best analogies but close. I think the summary is that an SP MUST provide a CD and either put it on OP or prompt OP to use it especially if BB was not agreed in advance.

I've had experiences in the past where SPs have run out of lube and they decided to use baby oil  or the right size condom, so I always carry a new sealed small tube of lube and condoms just in case.  If we have to use the lube, then I leave the tube with the SP.

[RandomGuy99]

You may wish to check your words here 

Oops ..

I meant I jumped up and put one on myself...

It's my job to keep myself and the SP safe through the use of condoms and lube to prevent condoms breaking.

[Adoniron]

When I see an SP I consider she should put it on.

When I see a civvie it's my responsibility.

I've never used SA but I think I would regard it as my responsibility.

[DastardlyDick]

When I see an SP I consider she should put it on.

I think most SPs don't trust their clients to put it on properly, or at all, which is why they insist on doing it. Maybe one of our SP contributors could confirm or deny?