What do you actually do with submissive girls?

[LondonDominic]

There's a WG on my radar who is into submissive sex. I'm just wondering what such a girl would actually expect, i.e. what is acceptable and what isn't? Please be specific! Thanks.

[O30303]

You would probably be better off asking the sp about her boundaries, some girls might like you to walk in, call her names, rip her clothes off, pull her hair, pin her down and have rough sex, others would call the police and you would end up in bother cos someone tells you on here that that's what sub girls like, communication is key, and it saves any issues if you are both clear on how far things can go

[Boomerang17]

Ive met one submissive girl who sometimes tours my area....she likes to be face slapped, spanked really hard, get face fucked and choked as well. Id never tried that before until id met her.
Apart from that Ive found a lot of the girls who say they are submissive either wont give any detail about what they like or just put it on there to get interest in their profile.
I get why they wont give details to an extent as some people use it to time waste but theres such a variety of aspects to 'being submissive' that the expectations of both of you could be way off.
Also, get a lot saying 'i only be submissive when i know you' which is a classic trick imo. Heard it before with 'il do anal after a couple of meets' etc etc

[Boomerang17]

You would probably be better off asking the sp about her boundaries, some girls might like you to walk in, call her names, rip her clothes off, pull her hair, pin her down and have rough sex, others would call the police and you would end up in bother cos someone tells you on here that that's what sub girls like, communication is key, and it saves any issues if you are both clear on how far things can go

Ive found most girls wont give a lot of details. Or very vague like 'il do anything you ask me' which still leaves a lot of very grey area to me

[RedKettle]

There is a very wide range here.  It can just be you telling them what to do each step of the way, bossing them around, but what you actually do is the same as GFE. It can go up to the full on forced and rough sex with all the PSE add ons.

You need to establish where on that spectrum she expects to be and also ensure you have agreed safe words that will let you know to cool down something or stop immediately.

[bedhedred]

I'd interpret submissive in the less extreme way. If a girl follows my instructions, and never suggests moving to the next activity, then that's a good definition of submissive for me.

[finn5555]

It’s all about communication, you need to find out what you both enjoy and what limits you both have.
Have a safe word or agree for her to tap out if getting to much for instance.
As an example I have a regular who is into anything and enjoys it but I personally don’t slap her face or spit on her which both are things she enjoys.

Ask her most will say what they will or won’t do 

Some subs like to be told what to do not always slapped or degraded.

[jesse4585]

There's a WG on my radar who is into submissive sex. I'm just wondering what such a girl would actually expect, i.e. what is acceptable and what isn't? Please be specific! Thanks.

"Submissive" is a broad descriptor -  submissive lasses range from liking true hard core BDSM  ,   to quite vanilla women who just like the man to take the lead.

Before trying out any hardcore stuff - rough facefucking,   hard spanking, bondage & beyond - I'd agree it would be very important to talk it though & establish boundaries.


But there's "mild dom"  methods that don't need any awkward conversation - at least definitely not IMO with a WG that has submissive in her profile.  To be specific:

1) On first visit be gentle for 1st 10 mins, give her some complements, maybe some gentle caresses & kisses,  maybe a massage. 
(With rare exceptions,  - I'd guess less than 1% of women,  subs don't like men that are truly cruel, they like to know you care about their pleasure too.)

2) Start ordering her about.  Tone of voice is important.  Say it like you expect to obeyed.  With me, after a quick massage, the session might go something like this.

* I leave the bed & say "Come of the bed babe" - in a quite gentle but firm tone.
*  "Down on your knees" - said in a much firmer tone.  You then almost never have to ask them to start sucking your dick.
*  "Knees wide apart"  - it's more submissive for them to give OWO like that..
* " Fetch a condom"  -  would rarely do this on a first visit, but sometimes ask them to crawl & bring it in their teeth
*  "Kneel down on the bed"  (or "bend over") - the doggy positions are the most submissive.  I always give this order in a very firm tone of voice, which sort of communicates passion  & my desire for her, which seems to turn most women on.
*  "Head down"  etc...

Sometimes I spank them, especially if there's a reason to like if they were running late etc.  Important not to spank too hard, as it's easy to leave bruises that can be painful after the session for hours or days, & virtually no one enjoys that.   For lasses that enjoy quite a bit of pain in the session itself, it can be better to use a belt as that gives much more of a sting, with no risk of bruise or welt as long as you don't over do it.

I'm mostly like this with all my punts (even when it doesn't say submissive on their profile) & in civvie sex too. There's been surveys saying >90% of women like the man to take the lead, and that's true in my experience.  With a civvie though I'd be much more tentative on the first time unless I was absolutely sure she wanted it. She might be actually be in two minds about whether she wants to go through with sex, and she might experience even mild domming as coercion, just because as a man you're almost certainly much stronger so the implicit threat of physical force is always there.








 

[Arbetare]

I'd interpret submissive in the less extreme way. If a girl follows my instructions, and never suggests moving to the next activity, then that's a good definition of submissive for me.

Similar definition to mine. Sometimes you could also use the word Passive i.e. You as a punter have to take charge and direct the booking, even if it's a GFE booking. To be honest, I prefer an SP to be pro-active and receptive.

Those that are provide more extreme services tend to use Sub, rather than submissive.

[RandomGuy99]

I've never been able to figure it out.

I've only seen one sub girl. I did everything wrong.  I gave up and saw other girls.

[Moby Dick]

I would classify most of the WG I see as sub.
We are paying the fee, we are the customer, ie the wage payer/the boss and it is more natural for the WG to try and meet or follow our requests.
This could be from uniform requests, making a cuppa, keeping her shoes on, fingering herself, playing with toys when instructed, getting on her knees when instructed, bending over when instructed.... taking a facial ..... when instructed. So subs for me naturally expect the “master” (fee payer/customer) to take the lead and tell her what to do.
Sure some WG will have a routine and dictate the pace, or will say I don’t do that, which is fine, but then they are less sub, or just lazy, and at the other end of the scale you have WG who want to boss you around, which doesn’t work for me.
I am not Dominant, kind of chilled and go with the flow, but like to come away from a punt thinking the WG tried to please me, and this can be achieved from her reading my mind (making suggestions is fine by me) or following my instructions enthusiastically.

[Moby Dick]

I've never been able to figure it out.

I've only seen one sub girl. I did everything wrong.  I gave up and saw other girls.

I would class SK as sub

[Son of the Desert]

I'm thinking of going to see one of the London Submissive Girls this week but I still find it hard to get my head round what I can ask them to do.  Tying up and spanking definitely appeals.  Is tying her up and then making her cum or denying her an orgasm acceptable behaviour.  Since LSG seem to have an OW only rule (which seems the very opposite of submissive to me) I wonder if any of it is worth the money?

[HighHeelLover]

I'm thinking of going to see one of the London Submissive Girls this week but I still find it hard to get my head round what I can ask them to do.  Tying up and spanking definitely appeals.  Is tying her up and then making her cum or denying her an orgasm acceptable behaviour.  Since LSG seem to have an OW only rule (which seems the very opposite of submissive to me) I wonder if any of it is worth the money?

Before going to see some of these girl I used to see a girl who worked there and she told me she used to charge per spank with implements on top of her hourly rate. So if you’ve got that type of money to spend then go nuts

[HighHeelLover]

There's a WG on my radar who is into submissive sex. I'm just wondering what such a girl would actually expect, i.e. what is acceptable and what isn't? Please be specific! Thanks.

What I normally do is send an email asking if they actually provided such services first. Many do have sub as likes but some can be very mild subs. Once I find out they they are really submissive I then tend to ask them what services they are Comfortable in offering especially on a first meet and what limits they have. 

Some will tend to write back saying what are you looking for, at that point I w list everything I enjoy doing and let me know if they are comfortable in providing. Make it clear that there is room compromise and everything isn’t a deal breaker. They will let you know what they are comfortable with.

[Adoniron]

It's many years since I've been there but I think the set up at London Submissive Girls is basically they are escorts who will also take a proper spanking and this is included in the fee. You can strap and cane them too but you have to pay extra for that - £10 a stroke.

[RandomGuy99]

I would class SK as sub

Really?

I always found her very full on. She was up for most things though except anal at the time. She did tell me "you do realise that my bum is an exit not an entrance", so I never bothered suggesting that one.

She was very full on with me. I loved it.

[Home Alone]

According to my last Regular, I'm nearer the fluffy end of the punting spectrum. As such, I found the only booking I've made with a SP who defines herself as submissive really quite unsatisfying.

As much as anything else, that was because of my inexperience with the species 'Submissive SP', which meant that I didn't resolve the 'boundaries question' with her when booking. [I was booking her because I wanted to remove MFF from my punting Bucket list and wanted to meet both girls individually before the MFF session.]

Interestingly - to me, at any rate! - the girl in question now says on her AW Profile, I can be DOM or SUB it's up to you? After all I'm here for your pleasure!!!"

As with so many other purchases, I think it's a case of caveat emptor when booking a Sub. At least, OP, you're getting the best advice possible to have a more enjoyable time than I did.

[Moby Dick]

Really?

I always found her very full on. She was up for most things though except anal at the time. She did tell me "you do realise that my bum is an exit not an entrance", so I never bothered suggesting that one.

She was very full on with me. I loved it.

Yes full on in a submissive way.
She is sub because she is eager to please, yes sir attitude.
My view of Sub does not mean they lie there like a rag doll taking abuse.
Most WG fit my definition of sub unless they are clearly Dom, or lazy bossy cunts.

[Vice Admiral]

Q:  What do you actually do with submissive girls? 

A:  I tell them to stop being total pansies, to get a bit of bottle, and to learn to assert themselves – as otherwise they'll spend their whole lives bring walked over.

[jesse4585]

Interestingly - to me, at any rate! - the girl in question now says on her AW Profile, I can be DOM or SUB it's up to you? After all I'm here for your pleasure!!!"

Yep, there's been some studies claiming to show that almost everyone is capable of experiencing pleasure both as a dom or sub. Folk with experience at both can be called switches, and probably the majority could be a half decent switch if they tried.  Though maybe about 90% of women tend to have an orientation to being at least slightly sub,  and about 60% of men prefer to be dom.

I like being a mild dom, but I'm like that in sex almost all the time partly as I think it's what women enjoy. I'm sure I'd enjoy being sub too, but so far just haven't met anyone that wanted to dom me.   (Not counting a few 'bossy' WGs from back in the 90s, who just wanted to stick to their routines. I didn't enjoy those punts much, but the WG wasn't truly being dom.)

It's maybe more of a skill to be a dom,  especially if you're not used to giving orders at work, from being a parent or whatever.   But like everything else it gets a lot easier with practice.  And learning it with WGs who label themselves 'submissive'  should be easy for most, allbeit maybe not enjoyable if you're in the ~40% of men with little natural dom. 

[Hobbit]

What do I do with submissive girls?

Talk to them sternly
Give commands
Make them lick my balls and ass deep
Tell them off if they stop licking and ask them to start again
Drool into their mouths and make them swallow it
Ass fuck them
Get them to give me a Throatpie and swallow every drop

[jesse4585]

Q:  What do you actually do with submissive girls? 

A:  I tell them to stop being total pansies, to get a bit of bottle, and to learn to assert themselves – as otherwise they'll spend their whole lives bring walked over.

Doubtless that's just what they need to hear in some cases.

When it comes to liking to be sexually submissive though, quite a few of them are very outgoing and assertive out of the bedroom.

There's also a belief, which I take to be true,  that when it comes to sexual relationships it's the submissive one that has the true power. This is discussed at length in one of Julius Evola's book on sex.

[Moby Dick]

What do I do with submissive girls?

Talk to them sternly
Give commands
Make them lick my balls and ass deep
Tell them off if they stop licking and ask them to start again
Drool into their mouths and make them swallow it
Ass fuck them
Get them to give me a Throatpie and swallow every drop

Are you into TS?
CBA to check your reviews.

[Hobbit]

Are you into TS?
CBA to check your reviews.

No, I'm not into TS's. I meant they would swallow my cum.

I clearly wrote that wrong. 

[Moby Dick]

No, I'm not into TS's. I meant they would swallow my cum.

I clearly wrote that wrong. 

If you say so

[Vice Admiral]

When it comes to liking to be sexually submissive though, quite a few of them are very outgoing and assertive out of the bedroom.

I have found that almost invariably to be the case.  It's an apparent paradox, but in a curious way it does make psychological sense.

[RandomGuy99]

I have found that almost invariably to be the case.  It's an apparent paradox, but in a curious way it does make psychological sense.

I think that's the bit that confuses me.  When they're not having sex they are assertive yet when they get into the bedroom they become submissive but not that submissive as they'll tell you if something is sore for them but not if something is pleasurable for them.  I tried listening to their body to look for reactions, but got nothing, hence I concluded I was doing it all wrong.

With SK she told me she wanted to perform OWO on me and then I could do whatever I liked with her. I never took full advantage of that offer, but she was great.

[davidgood]

There's a WG on my radar who is into submissive sex. I'm just wondering what such a girl would actually expect, i.e. what is acceptable and what isn't? Please be specific! Thanks.

I am not as dom as lots of guys but I enjoy being dominant and giving chastisement by hand and with implements like crops and paddles.

You can get an idea of what might be acceptable from profiles and reviews and from speaking to the SP but you won't know exactly what she will accept until you have had one or two meetings and tested the water.

I hope you will do a review following your meeting.

Regards,

davidgood

[Home Alone]

I am not as dom as lots of guys but I enjoy being dominant and giving chastisement by hand and with implements like crops and paddles.

You can get an idea of what might be acceptable from profiles and reviews and from speaking to the SP but you won't know exactly what she will accept until you have had one or two meetings and tested the water.

I hope you will do a review following your meeting.

Regards,

davidgood

Seconded. If only to let some of us know how you went on with setting the boundaries.

[Trotter671]

Yes full on in a submissive way.
She is sub because she is eager to please, yes sir attitude.
My view of Sub does not mean they lie there like a rag doll taking abuse.
Most WG fit my definition of sub unless they are clearly Dom, or lazy bossy cunts.

I'd agree with you there MD  Top lass

[Thecunninglinguist]

What do I do with submissive girls?

Talk to them sternly
Give commands
Make them lick my balls and ass deep
Tell them off if they stop licking and ask them to start again
Drool into their mouths and make them swallow it
Ass fuck them
Get them to give me a Throatpie and swallow every drop

Strange that your reviews don't seem to reflect these comments. Maybe it's just don't review your sub meets?

[RandomGuy99]

Yes full on in a submissive way.
She is sub because she is eager to please, yes sir attitude.
My view of Sub does not mean they lie there like a rag doll taking abuse.
Most WG fit my definition of sub unless they are clearly Dom, or lazy bossy cunts.

Of my top 10 punts 5 of them were with SK.  That was back when she had her maid.

[Moby Dick]

Of my top 10 punts 5 of them were with SK.  That was back when she had her maid.

You sound like a stalker.
FYI - The “maid” never joined us during my punts with her.

[ShadowProclamation]

Submission is open to interpretation, so needs to be discussed prior to a booking. The last SP I saw described herself as 'sub slut'. I wanted to try a role play with her, so clearly I would have to be the dominant one. I emailed her the role play scenario first, to check she was okay with it. Once confirmed, I proceeded to make a booking.

[RandomGuy99]

You sound like a stalker.
FYI - The “maid” never joined us during my punts with her.

Lol why?

The maid just answered the door and showed me into the room.  SK would then arrive in the room a few minutes later with drink in hand (usually strawberry flavoured water)

[hullad]

until recently I had never dreamed of being a Dominant to a sub escort. Just by accident with a regular I put my arm around her neck from the back. It had an immediate and instant effect, like applying the afterburner to a Lightning fighter. Over just a couple of visits I have developed a dominant side which I now enjoy and I get a buzz because I know she does.

She loves being choked slightly and willingly takes orders, mild spanking and the sex sessions go on and on. I booked an hour last time and we where well over three hours when I left. I have recently had some surgery and out of action for a few weeks, I have planned a day with her as soon as I am able too. She wants me to tie her up and I am studying knots as home work and then beat her with a paddle.

I would never have taken plunge, try it you never know

[Tonyg]

A couple of subs I see, once they got comfortable with me, and picking up on my naturally dominant vibe have encouraged split play, face slapping and choking.

[Ali Katt]

Ive found most girls wont give a lot of details. Or very vague like 'il do anything you ask me' which still leaves a lot of very grey area to me

In that case I wouldn't book. I state what I want though beforehand and also ask what the boundaries are or figure them out from what is said.

[Ali Katt]

Being passive is not the same as being submissive. It's difficult to explain as the lines are blurred. Subs play an active role, I know it sounds like a contradiction; passive to me is lying back and thinking of Brexit.

A lot of people have mentioned things like choking, spitting, throat fucking and while these things can be dominant acts they don't have to be done with a sub. I class them as rough sex. I think the boundaries have been blurred further by Pascal's Sub Sluts etc. Personally, I think the Dom\sub relationship is how it is presented. You can be dominant without saying a word or being rough. Really, it is down to individual definition.

Like I've said before my style isn't about being rough, but it isn't any less dominant than anyone else; it's just different.

There's a WG on my radar who is into submissive sex. I'm just wondering what such a girl would actually expect, i.e. what is acceptable and what isn't? Please be specific! Thanks.

As mentioned things need to be agreed on beforehand, but also what is it you want? If you don't know it's going to make things really difficult. There are some girls who can lead men into being dominant, but it's quite difficult to force. Submissive sex can be anything from the rougher aspects to as mentioned more roleplay.

[MilleMiglia]

Some years back, I made a booking with a woman who, when questioned about limits, replied "Anything, apart from cutting and burning".

A few hours later, I backed off the drive, and the engine died. C'est la vie.......

[signy]

In a sub/dom relationship it is always the sub that is in charge. If not, someone is doing something wrong. Subbing is about giving up some element of control, but at the same time making it clear what you want done/not done, whether this be through signals (traffic lights, etc.) or building a long-term relationship with your dom. It is less about random physical or sexual acts and more about the mental/psychological aspects of trusting another person.

I am mildly sub by inclination, but also do mildly dom bookings to remind myself of the reverse situation and to stop myself becoming over passive. Being on the dom side might seem like being a tough guy/gal, but really it is about thinking about your sub and their needs. Which is to say (as others have) take it slowly, agree and test limits, but always be in control of your own emotions and be able to pull back. It's not a straight line, up a bit, down a bit, a bit nice, a bit "nasty" until you both get to where you are comfortable.

Serious domming is a real skill. I would suggest that if you don't know what you are doing, go and see a few experienced femdoms and learn from life on the other side.

[LLPunting]

...Lightning fighter...

Dirty OLD sod! 

Hope she's lighting your burner soon.  Sounds like you're transitioning away from punter/SP to FW(special)B albeit you're paying for "dinner".    GL and get fit soon.

Assuming you're not talking about an F-35 (over-priced Yankee con job, as most modern day military "force multipliers" are).

[sub_marine]

There's a WG on my radar who is into submissive sex. I'm just wondering what such a girl would actually expect, i.e. what is acceptable and what isn't? Please be specific! Thanks.

This seems like a backwards question to me, your the one with the cash, so its what you want that counts.  Decide what you'd like to explore, send that list or scenario to a prospective sub and let her decide if its something she would like to let you try, as the sub has the ultimate control in any play. 

To get the best out of any BDSM play both parties have to be on the same wavelength.  As the play progresses you'll be reading subtle cues from each other and that will dictate how things progress.  Simply caning a subs ass because they agree to do it for cash is abuse, and only somebody thats a bit phsyco would get pleasure from that.  Hence why 50 shades has such a bad reputation from the kinky community, that Grey guy is forcing his likes on a girl that isnt really into it, classic abuse.  The Adams Family is a much better representaion of a safe consensual kinky relationship, while playing both parties are clearly enjoyng it, getting turned on and encouraging each other to go further.

[Colston36]

There are two girls I have known to be submissive, both of whom I still see, though one I cannot name as she is semi-retired for health reasons (nothing sexual). I have seen her quite a few times, usually with another, dominant woman. She likes to be beaten, with whip or strap before being fucked.  The other, Louisa Smith in Plymouth, I had with her legs up in the air strapped to her ankles, beaten with a whip. In fact she is more dominant than submissive, I later discovered. Since that time - 2017 - she has become very expensive - probably too much so for most. She is at External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only. There is also a field report I did of her and another girl on Feb 8, 2018 where she was not submissive

[S.X. MacHine]

Wow. Huge subject.
BDSM is what I look for in a punt; therefore, I meet with girls who advertise the service on their profile. The genuine submissive all go into some detail as to their specific likes and limits. Here are a couple of examples-

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Both girls play at a fairly severe level, but their limits and likes vary. One likes to be fisted, the other does not, for example. One likes needles in her nipples while the other doesn’t.
The important thing is to communicate before the meeting in order to establish mutually agreed boundaries. Learn on the job, starting light; then go heavier at future meetings.
I find myself increasingly visiting the same submissives which some punters might find a bit limiting.
Interestingly, one regular of mine who actually has a low pain threshold, works herself into a state of anxiety when I blindfold and cuff her; then it’s on with the nipple clamps before I go over her naked body with a pinwheel. Even before her warm up spanking in anticipation of a flogging, she begins to sweat profusely. It is a very real, genuine stress  in anticipation of her punishment. It turns us both on immensely.
A couple of times I’ve introduced a second girl into our play, to flog her. Seeing my pleasure at her punishment can send her into sub space. Marvellous.
Once, with yet another sub, I caned her to an orgasm. Yep. Only ever managed that once, though.
Always remember the mantra ‘Safe, sane and consensual ‘. Enjoy.

[hullad]

Dirty OLD sod! 

Hope she's lighting your burner soon.  Sounds like you're transitioning away from punter/SP to FW(special)B albeit you're paying for "dinner".    GL and get fit soon.

Assuming you're not talking about an F-35 (over-priced Yankee con job, as most modern day military "force multipliers" are).

cheers 

On the mend and hopefully two weeks away from an afternoons session with the regular local lass. I am hoping to try some tying up with ropes etc and handcuffs.


I of course meant the English Electric Lightning, power and performance not that US jack of all trades, one size does all 'Lightning II"

[slippyin]

Tough question OP.

Loads of great points made in the previous posts/replys.

From my experience you need to know what exactly you want.

If you are looking for a PSE rough sex experience there are plenty out there that provide but submission is a a totally different beast.

I've played with "professional subs" who are willing to engage at the extreme end of the spectrum heavy impact play, breath play etc yet don't really submit as they are masochists or able to perform the services but dont really enjoy submission. And knowing or feeling this never really leave satisfied

On the other end of the spectum i have regular who advertises and generally provides quite a vanilla GFE service but after chatting about my BDSM kink said to bring a few toys to our next meet to try. When i did it turns out that she got really turned on by the loss of control (within boundaries) and submission. All meets since have turned into an exploration of her limits and i generally leave feeling exhausted emotionally and physically. This is based on her trust and as far as i know she doesnt do it in other bookings or even in her civvy life.

If you really want to explore D/s or BDSM i would advise seeking out your local Munch and doing some research via Fetlife.com (Admin please delete if not allowed.) I am not active on the scene anymore due to a vanilla OH but the exploration of the lifestyle if done proerly will take a while but can be very rewarding. Please be aware that many who "live" the lifestyle have a very dim view of punting.

It must be remembered that true submission is never taken but freely given and communication, limits, expectations trust are key.

[slippyin]

 

Wow. Huge subject.

Always remember the mantra ‘Safe, sane and consensual ‘. Enjoy.

[slippyin]

  +1

This seems like a backwards question to me, your the one with the cash, so its what you want that counts.  Decide what you'd like to explore, send that list or scenario to a prospective sub and let her decide if its something she would like to let you try, as the sub has the ultimate control in any play. 

To get the best out of any BDSM play both parties have to be on the same wavelength.  As the play progresses you'll be reading subtle cues from each other and that will dictate how things progress.  Simply caning a subs ass because they agree to do it for cash is abuse, and only somebody thats a bit phsyco would get pleasure from that.  Hence why 50 shades has such a bad reputation from the kinky community, that Grey guy is forcing his likes on a girl that isnt really into it, classic abuse.  The Adams Family is a much better representaion of a safe consensual kinky relationship, while playing both parties are clearly enjoyng it, getting turned on and encouraging each other to go further.