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Offline Fuzzyduck

What question are you asking OP? Are you raising the topic of discrimination/SP preferences/what "bad experience" means (which the others have covered) or are you asking if you don't fall within that exclusion (ie the SP will likely see you)?  I have zero personal experience of the latter but I do remember seeing profiles where SPs have stated "no black or coloured guys." I would conclude that some SPs might differentiate. In the scenario you mentioned, I would ask if her preference includes/excludes you or not. Be prepared to be knocked back and, if you want to avoid that situation, maybe give them a swerve.

Offline KiloRomeo

What question are you asking OP? Are you raising the topic of discrimination/SP preferences/what "bad experience" means (which the others have covered) or are you asking if you don't fall within that exclusion (ie the SP will likely see you)?  I have zero personal experience of the latter but I do remember seeing profiles where SPs have stated "no black or coloured guys." I would conclude that some SPs might differentiate. In the scenario you mentioned, I would ask if her preference includes/excludes you or not. Be prepared to be knocked back and, if you want to avoid that situation, maybe give them a swerve.
I was asking the latter and I think I'll take that advice, thanks  :thumbsup:

Offline notcalledchris

There are plenty of white guys with big cocks.  If a girl wants to aviod big cocks she should simlly say that.

. It is mostly racism i would say.  The problem is when a white guy is a problem client, the WG doesnt especially notice he is white.  But when a black guy is a twat, he is not just a twat but a "black twat".  Even if the WG doesnt see it as racism but rather due to "previous issues with black guys" you can see how the prejuside slips in. 

Some WG have problems with Indians because  they are seen as tight fisted and liable to haggle. 

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https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=369539.0

Discussion has been done here, it's a good read through

:lol: you should try reading this thread. That link has already been posted twice.

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I'll merge this with the latest 2 page one that also includes links to a couple of previous ones. We don't need a new thread every time someone comes across an issue.

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There are plenty of white guys with big cocks.  If a girl wants to aviod big cocks she should simlly say that.

. It is mostly racism i would say.  The problem is when a white guy is a problem client, the WG doesnt especially notice he is white.  But when a black guy is a twat, he is not just a twat but a "black twat".  Even if the WG doesnt see it as racism but rather due to "previous issues with black guys" you can see how the prejuside slips in. 

Some WG have problems with Indians because  they are seen as tight fisted and liable to haggle.
I'm not sure you understand what racism is. Racism is illegal and you can be prosecuted for it, however no woman could ever be prosecuted for not wanting to have sex with someone, as long as she doesn't maker any racist comments it is not racism.

In my opinion calling something like this racism devalues the efforts to irradicate actual racism that sadly does go on in some sections of society.

Every woman has the right to have sex with whoever they wish and can even remove consent halfway through.

Offline Watts.E.Dunn

After phoning a girl for a punt recently it went..

"txt my bby"

" Can you do an hour incall this eveing say 6 or7 PM "

"were you from"

"Near cambridge"

" no were you come from"

"well Cambridge"

"are you white?"

" yes and mature"

"Ok i dont wanna see you black"

She was bloody useless  review to come..

Offline notcalledchris

I'm not sure you understand what racism is. Racism is illegal and you can be prosecuted for it, however no woman could ever be prosecuted for not wanting to have sex with someone, as long as she doesn't maker any racist comments it is not racism.

In my opinion calling something like this racism devalues the efforts to irradicate actual racism that sadly does go on in some sections of society.

Every woman has the right to have sex with whoever they wish and can even remove consent halfway through.

I don't disagree with any of that.  My point was that there is conscious racsim and unconscious baises.  The former is illegal and fits your definition of racism.  The latter does not fit all definitioms of racism but that doesnt mean it is ok.

Offline Doc Holliday

I don't disagree with any of that.  My point was that there is conscious racsim and unconscious baises.  The former is illegal and fits your definition of racism.  The latter does not fit all definitioms of racism but that doesnt mean it is ok.

It's a discussion that has been thrashed out many times on here, but is an academic one as it has already been established on UKP in the past, that even if you could prove racism, it would not be prosecuted.

A 'No Black' policy for most Sp's will not significantly affect your business. In some parts of the country a 'No Asian' policy could have much more effect financially. A No White policy would be so limiting to your client base that it just won't happen even if the majority of your bad experiences were of that ethnicity.

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I don't disagree with any of that.  My point was that there is conscious racsim and unconscious baises.  The former is illegal and fits your definition of racism.  The latter does not fit all definitioms of racism but that doesnt mean it is ok.
Why do people insists on calling an escort's free choice to shag whoever she wants racism, it isn't. On your other point everyone in the world is bias to some extent, punters choose what type of escort they want to see and may exclude various different types, too big, too small, certain nationalities or colours and whatever else but that doesn't mean they have anything against any of those.

Whoever any man or woman chooses to have sexual relations with is totally different to how they would treat those same people in any other social environment.

I've had social interaction on another platform with an escort who has an upper age limit which I happen to be over so she would never seem me as a client but she's happy to message back and forth and have a good bit of banter, she isn't ageist, she just has a preference for younger blokes. The age limit was clear on her profile so I don't have an issue with that.

Obviously as in any other walk of life there will be racist escorts but to label all who express a preference as such is wrong just as playing the race card at every opportunity is wrong.

Offline contentguy

I don't disagree with any of that.  My point was that there is conscious racsim and unconscious baises.  The former is illegal and fits your definition of racism.  The latter does not fit all definitioms of racism but that doesnt mean it is ok.

Are you suggesting that the legality of racism (or any other form of discrimination against a protected characteristic), depends on whether the bias is conscious or unconscious?


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I do appreciate it being stated in the ad as opposed to being turned away, and I am yet to see anyone with the line in their ad, but I guess the reason for this post was to ask what reason a person might have to turn such people away. While I was born in this country, I have an Indian descent which obviously makes me slightly darker. If the reason for turning black people away is racially motivated then I want nothing to do with them, but if they genuinely have just had bad experiences or don't want to see anyone with a 9 inch cock then I suppose I can understand it somewhat.

There's a whole lot of reasons, and they aren't all the same, we all have our preferences for what we can accept in an intimate situation. I can't do girls bigger then a size 12.

If it is racially motivated you won't be seeing them anyway, so best not to worry about it.

There's plenty of SP's who will see fat, thin, bald, old, under 25, Asian, Indian, black, white etc etc

As for 9 inch cocks, we all know that's total bollocks (pun intended).

Offline notcalledchris

Are you suggesting that the legality of racism (or any other form of discrimination against a protected characteristic), depends on whether the bias is conscious or unconscious?

No.  That is not how the law works.  Although as Doc H says above, the matter is unlikely yo end up in court so the legal issues are moot

Offline contentguy

No.  That is not how the law works.  Although as Doc H says above, the matter is unlikely yo end up in court so the legal issues are moot

I understand what Doc says and what Davie said.
I don't understand what you said.

......there is conscious racsim and unconscious baises.  The former is illegal and fits your definition of racism.  The latter does not fit all definitioms of racism but that doesnt mean it is ok.

You said conscious is illegal (the former) and rambly stuff about "the latter" .
Still don't understand the distinction you're drawing between conscious "illegal" and unconscious, I'll probably get over it.  :dash:

Offline GreyDave

You were lucky, she let me in and put my dick in a tie press !

A tie press Christ you must have ironed out yer foreskin good and proper :D :D

I attempted to see her I went down in her basement flat in Earls Court she had a younger thin pretty mixed race girl helping her I remember thinking at the time she is uglyer than I thought compared to the maid :D Anyways she told me she didnt do young guys and maybe I should go to Soho walk ups ( which id been doing ) ...Any ways time moves on and I thought after a year or so I d try again went down to basement flat knocked and maid was there invited in and told to wait as Madame was not there maid brought me a glass of water and I flicked though some porn mags...being younger I was stifff in seconds maid came back to tell me Miss whiplass would be in later and could I come back she saw I was stiff and directed me to the loo  with the words  " You can relive youself in there please use the tishues ..dont leave a mess !"   I went in and knocked one of the quickest wanks Ive had out in her bog ...then sheepishly left...never to return shekilled herself I belive at beachy head... :hi:

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she killed herself I belive at beachy head... :hi:

I understood she moved to the West Country and found God.

You were lucky to get away so lightly, she was a scary lady, in my case she went too far, I was very inexperienced about BDSM and when she realised that she changed out of her work character and became quite concerned and caring that I was ok.
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Offline notcalledchris

I understand what Doc says and what Davie said.
I don't understand what you said.

You said conscious is illegal (the former) and rambly stuff about "the latter" .
Still don't understand the distinction you're drawing between conscious "illegal" and unconscious, I'll probably get over it.  :dash:

I think your are over analysing it.  I was just my rambling random thoughts.  The only point i was making is there is both overt explicit conscious racism and bias which may be unconscious. 

Online sparkus

There's a whole lot of reasons, and they aren't all the same, we all have our preferences for what we can accept in an intimate situation. I can't do girls bigger then a size 12.

If it is racially motivated you won't be seeing them anyway, so best not to worry about it.

There's plenty of SP's who will see fat, thin, bald, old, under 25, Asian, Indian, black, white etc etc

As for 9 inch cocks, we all know that's total bollocks (pun intended).

I've seen NWA before (not the group) - No White or Asian.

Fat chav with spray tan in Stratford saying she only wanted to see black clients.

No one was missing out.

Offline tazz

A tie press Christ you must have ironed out yer foreskin good and proper :D :D

I attempted to see her I went down in her basement flat in Earls Court she had a younger thin pretty mixed race girl helping her I remember thinking at the time she is uglyer than I thought compared to the maid :D Anyways she told me she didnt do young guys and maybe I should go to Soho walk ups ( which id been doing ) ...Any ways time moves on and I thought after a year or so I d try again went down to basement flat knocked and maid was there invited in and told to wait as Madame was not there maid brought me a glass of water and I flicked though some porn mags...being younger I was stifff in seconds maid came back to tell me Miss whiplass would be in later and could I come back she saw I was stiff and directed me to the loo  with the words  " You can relive youself in there please use the tishues ..dont leave a mess !"   I went in and knocked one of the quickest wanks Ive had out in her bog ...then sheepishly left...never to return shekilled herself I belive at beachy head... :hi:

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Offline Gunner98

I was going through profiles today pretty set and excited about having my first punting experience, until I came across one profile that really struck my fancy. After scrolling through I came across a bit that said "I don't do black/african men." I don't know why but this really hit me hard. I was upset and dismissed it at first but then sadness came rolling in. Not gonna lie, my self confidence took a huge nose dive and I've since been apprehensive about this whole thing, especially since I am also a bit fat. Has anyone ever been rejected by an escort? And Am I being too sensitive? lol

Never take it personally, I've been rejected by girls (not escorts) because they said I'm not their preference (I'm Cypriot) and that they prefer white guys with blonde hair/blue eyes, or tall guys who are above 6' or whatever else. Ultimately, doesn't matter if its motivated by preference, bad experiences or racism. If you see a No black/NBA policy, move to the next WG. There is an abundance of girls out and about in the industry so you'll find a girl to your liking. No point in contacting a WG that will say no and even if you somehow convinced her to see you, she will end up giving you a sub-par service which will be money down the drain. I've been lucky to only experience a single punt where the girl seemed more interested in the contents of her phone rather than pleasing the client (shocker she was a Romanian). So move onto the next profile if you see NBA. And you will have bad punts and you will have good punts but as a young guy I'll say that this has been the best hobby I've taken up. Better than hiking, bouldering, kayaking, football, etc and I love doing all those things but punting with chicks with no judgement about my kinks/fetishes and no dating/dinner bullshit is the best thing ever.

Offline jgillis

As a brown, middle aged man I've experienced this. The simple fact is *it's not about you* anyway. It some stupid generalisation in the head of the rejector.

I'm not one for swearing, but for me - zero fucks are given. I take my £££ elsewhere.

Offline nightbot

I would actually add to this and say sometimes it might not even be about whether they want to have sex with people from a particular race or not but rather just the experience they've had with some people from the race. I'm not white and I recently saw an SP that I had a lot of fun with, and until last year she used to have a no Asian rule in her profile at one point. Now she doesn't and she has no issues seeing me again either.

Don't think too much about it, just move on to the next profile. This is one area where you are going to be spoilt for choices anyway.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2023, 06:26:32 pm by nightbot »

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yes ive been rejected for ethnicity purposes a few times.

Offline MysticP

I am a brown skinned British guy. I always share this info with SPs at the time of booking and so far have never been turned down. On the contrary, I have received compliments. I do make efforts to be presentable. Freshly showered, clean clothes etc. Just because they are SPs, doesn't mean they are not humans :) Everyone of us have our subconscious preferences and biases.

I did ask one of the SPs I saw ages ago as to why she claimed to not see black men. I am not going to share what she said, but funnily enough, it had nothing to do with the color of the skin. Go figure!

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I am a brown skinned British guy. I always share this info with SPs at the time of booking and so far have never been turned down. On the contrary, I have received compliments. I do make efforts to be presentable. Freshly showered, clean clothes etc. Just because they are SPs, doesn't mean they are not humans :) Everyone of us have our subconscious preferences and biases.

I did ask one of the SPs I saw ages ago as to why she claimed to not see black men. I am not going to share what she said, but funnily enough, it had nothing to do with the color of the skin. Go figure!
It must of had something to do with it, or she wouldn't have stated it on her profile, surely  :unknown:

Offline Watts.E.Dunn

I Was talking to one SP recently who says no Blacks and on asking her why she said they take liberties like wanting to pull the condom off etc. I said so are the all like that she said most are I was going to ask if they make her uncomfortable with endowmwnt size but decicded not to..

Offline MysticP

I Was talking to one SP recently who says no Blacks and on asking her why she said they take liberties like wanting to pull the condom off etc. I said so are the all like that she said most are I was going to ask if they make her uncomfortable with endowmwnt size but decicded not to..

The skin color is more of a differentiating factor in this case rather than the underlying issue.

I attended an orgy in my previous life with complete strangers. It was just an itch I wanted scratched. There were men of all size, shape and race. There was one black guy. What I vividly remember is that all the SPs refused to entertain this gentleman. He was furious and got into an animated discussion with the pimp. Magically, one of the SPs, who is a well known British porn star agreed to entertain him, of course on the insistence of the pimp. He spent almost like 20 minutes drilling her and at the end of that ordeal, she fell on the floor and said out loud- "I am fucked". This experience remained in my memory as distinct.

Another SP mentioned that she avoided Indians as they usually tend to agree on the listed price but negotiate when face to face, and that they will ask for discounts for further meets. Found it amusing.

I think it all comes down to one's experiences, irrespective of the race. But the race then becomes the identifier.

Complex subject, I know. More difficult to resolve.

Offline JonasG

I am a brown skinned British guy. I always share this info with SPs at the time of booking and so far have never been turned down. On the contrary, I have received compliments. I do make efforts to be presentable. Freshly showered, clean clothes etc. Just because they are SPs, doesn't mean they are not humans :) Everyone of us have our subconscious preferences and biases.

I did ask one of the SPs I saw ages ago as to why she claimed to not see black men. I am not going to share what she said, but funnily enough, it had nothing to do with the color of the skin. Go figure!

Not often tbf I've seen on WG's profiles excluding Brown/Asian guys tbf, very rarely.

Offline versace

I am a brown skinned British guy. I always share this info with SPs at the time of booking and so far have never been turned down. On the contrary, I have received compliments. I do make efforts to be presentable. Freshly showered, clean clothes etc. Just because they are SPs, doesn't mean they are not humans :) Everyone of us have our subconscious preferences and biases.

I did ask one of the SPs I saw ages ago as to why she claimed to not see black men. I am not going to share what she said, but funnily enough, it had nothing to do with the color of the skin. Go figure!

No shit Sherlock. It’s cos of the size of their cock, many WG’s actually mention that in their ads - No Blacks, Too big. Sorry.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2023, 03:13:45 am by versace »

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No shit Sherlock. It’s cos of the size of their cock, many WG’s actually mention that in their ads - No Blacks, Too big. Sorry.
They don't all have big cocks lol

Offline signy

No shit Sherlock. It’s cos of the size of their cock, many WG’s actually mention that in their ads - No Blacks, Too big. Sorry.

Which is a complete myth. Generally thought to have been promoted by racists (mainly in USA) to fit in with their claims that black men are "primative", dangerous, lack control and want to rape white women.

So, the question, do WGs believe the myth, or are they using the myth as an excuse not to see black men?

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They don't all have big cocks lol

This lol I've had more white guys with big cocks than black guys

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Which is a complete myth. Generally thought to have been promoted by racists (mainly in USA) to fit in with their claims that black men are "primative", dangerous, lack control and want to rape white women.

So, the question, do WGs believe the myth, or are they using the myth as an excuse not to see black men?
If that's the case, there must be another reason then  :unknown:

Offline rubric

Not often tbf I've seen on WG's profiles excluding Brown/Asian guys tbf, very rarely.

There are few who state they see whites only, though agreed an explicit no Asians rule is rarer than a no blacks rule. I’ve seen both though.

Back a few years, I can remember massage parlours stating ‘no coloured gentlemen’ over the phone.  It was somewhat interesting to me that the majority of the EE invasion didn’t seem to discriminate.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2023, 09:15:32 am by rubric »

Offline notcalledchris

Which is a complete myth. Generally thought to have been promoted by racists (mainly in USA) to fit in with their claims that black men are "primative", dangerous, lack control and want to rape white women.

So, the question, do WGs believe the myth, or are they using the myth as an excuse not to see black men?

Correct..  scientific studies either show no racial differences or very small ones. 

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They don't all have big cocks lol

Of course not all of them. But it also isn’t a myth.


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This lol I've had more white guys with big cocks than black guys

I’m assuming, that’s only because your clientele is mainly made up of white gentlemen.

Offline PumpDump

I was going through profiles today pretty set and excited about having my first punting experience, until I came across one profile that really struck my fancy. After scrolling through I came across a bit that said "I don't do black/african men." I don't know why but this really hit me hard. I was upset and dismissed it at first but then sadness came rolling in. Not gonna lie, my self confidence took a huge nose dive and I've since been apprehensive about this whole thing, especially since I am also a bit fat. Has anyone ever been rejected by an escort? And Am I being too sensitive? lol

You should sign up for Fabswingers.com, most of the white women there want black cocks. Free sex as well. The only problem is they are usually fat ugly housewives who wouldn't get a kick in a stampede under normal circumstances!

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Of course not all of them. But it also isn’t a myth.


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I think they use a non-standard ruler in those countries, cheaters!

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I’m assuming, that’s only because your clientele is mainly made up of white gentlemen.
It's best not to assume, if you don't know her clientele.

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It's best not to assume, if you don't know her clientele.

One of the reasons I didn't respond is because my clients tend to be caucasian, if I was based in a different location this could be quite different. But yes the majority of men with big cocks I have encountered have been, but not always caucasian men. I struggle with most but not all big cocks, pliability or 'give' may improve my ability to accommodate, also depends on the attitude and consideration of the bearer.

Autocorrect wants to capitalise caucasian, is this correct?

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One of the reasons I didn't respond is because my clients tend to be caucasian, if I was based in a different location this could be quite different. But yes the majority of men with big cocks I have encountered have been, but not always caucasian men. I struggle with most but not all big cocks, pliability or 'give' may improve my ability to accommodate, also depends on the attitude and consideration of the bearer.

Autocorrect wants to capitalise caucasian, is this correct?

So basically less is more. That’s good news for us 6 inchers then  :D :yahoo:

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So basically less is more. That’s good news for us 6 inchers then  :D :yahoo:
Less means I am not stretching my mouth or pussy painfully, only able to fit the head in whilst trusting he won't thrust in or rush. Although many imagine bigger is better, would you prefer majority of your cock head and shaft taken, or only the glans? I can confirm penis head banging on cervix can be painful, girth can also be just as difficult as length. Penetration doesn't contribute to my orgasm, so bigger is not better.

I also feel much better on a providing level if I can take the entire penis, rather than feeling inadequate because I can't.
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I’m assuming, that’s only because your clientele is mainly made up of white gentlemen.

When working from home I see a larger percentage of white clients because that is the demographic of the area I live
However when I'm on tour in areas like Bristol, Leicester and other large conurbations then that percentage flips on its head and I see more 'black' than white, as yet I've not found that the black clients I see average larger Penis sizes that the white guys.
I will say though that I have never met a black client with a closed foreskin,  I have met dozens of white guys like it


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Autocorrect wants to capitalise caucasian, is this correct?


Caucasian refers to a race and should therefore be capitalised. 

It's used in common parlance to mean white as the Americans adopted it in that way.
But it’s not synonymous with being white, it refers to a specific race.

Have a google, there's some interesting diversity and inclusion articles on the subject.


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You should sign up for Fabswingers.com, most of the white women there want black cocks. Free sex as well. The only problem is they are usually fat ugly housewives who wouldn't get a kick in a stampede under normal circumstances!

You sound a bit bitter, did you not have much success?   :lol:

(just to add this is meant as a lighthearted comment)
« Last Edit: June 01, 2023, 05:42:41 pm by Lou2019 »

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You sound a bit bitter, did you not have much success?   :lol:

(just to add this is meant as a lighthearted comment)

No, that's why I'm back here paying for it! Albeit with much more attractive and younger women ;-)

Offline notcalledchris

Of course not all of them. But it also isn’t a myth.


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But that data doesnt show that blacks have bigger cocks.  Firstly it is based on nataionality not ethnic differences within a single nation (meaning differences are just as likley to be based on differences in things like diet between countries) and secondly there is a load of overlap between majority black and majority white contries and.  For example France is above Chad.  Thirdly the differrences are fairly small anyway, a cm here or there
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But that data doesnt show that blacks have bigger cocks.  Firstly it is based on nataionality not ethnic differences within a single nation (meaning differences are just as likley to be based on differences in things like diet between countries) and secondly there is a load of overlap between majority black and majority white contries and.  For example France is above Chad.  Thirdly the differrences are fairly small anyway, a cm here or there

The data shouldn't be relied upon.

It was self reported, and to quote the analysis In some cases, there were only a few dozen test subjects in a country, which doesn't allow for a representative survey.