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Offline Ali Katt

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I always wonder if men who accuse their wives of disinterest ever consider their own performance. Is she frigid or is the man just a poor swordsman?
Their loss is my gain. I will have the make-up running down mummy's face worse than her first week of menopause.

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I always wonder if men who accuse their wives of disinterest ever consider their own performance. Is she frigid or is the man just a poor swordsman?
Punting solves it either way as the WG will pretend you've done a fantastic job no matter how shit you perform :rolleyes: There is no barrier for entry where skill is involved
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I always wonder if men who accuse their wives of disinterest ever consider their own performance. Is she frigid or is the man just a poor swordsman?

After all it takes 2 to tango   :hi:

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I do happen to think, that when one partner (either hubby or wife), stop finding the other attractive and stop fancying each other, that is when the slippery slope starts.
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I do happen to think, that when one partner (either hubby or wife), stop finding the other attractive and stop fancying each other, that is when the slippery slope starts.
It ain't slippery, it's dry.

Offline Horizontal pleasures

it is the fake GFE which gets my Mister Happy hard, snog snog snog, clinch and hug naked standing up, then her back towards me and Mister Happy into the bum cheeks. And then onto the bed: more snog, DFK and body contact. Smile, stroke, cuddle, finger action. From warm to hot fake affection.

So what is different from this and gets named Porn Star Experience? Separate oral activity and 69? Fetish stuff? Anal?


Offline Bonker

So a secondary part to the original question, for all you married guys playing away from home with us lovely SP's

What went south first in regard to sex at home?

Is it frequency,  oral, enthusiasm,  initiation,  intimacy, experimentation........

In my experience talking to clients they tend to say it's always the oral that goes first followed by the frequency.

It interests me as a divorced woman who was the one with the high sex drive  :coolgirl:

She changed, I didn't.
I still fancy young, fit, tight, enthusiastic, energetic girls. She became old, saggy, boring, loose.
Everything got hairier and closer to the ground.
Instead of oral, I got ear 'ole.
Instead of cowgirl, I got bullshit.
Instead of anal, I got fuck all.
Instead of Watersports, I got piss and vinegar.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2019, 12:18:49 am by Bonker »

Offline HarryZZ

It's a strange question really, my understanding is that some just pay for an hour and then sit and talk, some want three pops, some might not manage one pop. You're just paying for something different, more, extra or something that is unavailable to you otherwise, whether that's fat, thin, black, white or  perhaps just for the excitement of it, it's something different to us all and just because GFE appears more prevalent in their ads doesn't mean it's more wanted or more given, it's just advertising and if others are using it in their ads then they don't want to miss out, how many advertise deepthroat yet struggle to get the tip passed their lips?

Offline king tarzan

It's a strange question really, my understanding is that some just pay for an hour and then sit and talk, some want three pops, some might not manage one pop. You're just paying for something different, more, extra or something that is unavailable to you otherwise, whether that's fat, thin, black, white or  perhaps just for the excitement of it, it's something different to us all and just because GFE appears more prevalent in their ads doesn't mean it's more wanted or more given, it's just advertising and if others are using it in their ads then they don't want to miss out, how many advertise deepthroat yet struggle to get the tip passed their lips?

I want to maximise the hour
Lots of delicious Yummy dfk👅👍👅😋😋 tons of it
Heavyweight helpings of mango surprise delight 👅👅👅😋😋😋
Nice mouth attention on my truncheon and a quick drilling once or twice and the deed done!!
Yummy yum yum yaba daba doo!!👅👅👅👅😋😋😋 Then nearest brilliant burger joint or curry house 👅👅👅😋😋😋
« Last Edit: September 02, 2019, 08:41:49 am by king tarzan »
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Offline Daffodil


IF we ever get past the religious dogma and women are truly equal in their rights and freedom to behave without condemnation then it will be interesting to see how many women will be seeking sex-workers.


Good post and always interesting to read an alternative viewpoint to one’s own. Needless to say I disagree with plenty of it, but that’s by-the-by.

This was the part that I wanted to comment on though. I have implied that you think it’d be a lot of women, or at least a lot more. I just can’t see how you make that conclusion. A large part of punting, for me, is simply the ease. I am not unattractive, can hold a conversation, and have a decent job (humble brags  ;) ), but it’s still a lot more work to pick up a civvie than a Sex Worker. Almost any girl could walk into pretty much any bar and get herself laid.

There was a fairly banal point made on a TV show I watched the other night: the girl, who had gotten herself banged by the school American football team, made the observation that she is therefore known as a slut, if a guy did it he’d be a legend (presumably with the girl cheerleading team or equivalent). Of course he bloody would! And mostly due to the relative difficulties of the two tasks...imagine if a guy had the wherewithal’s to seduce an entire female football team. It’s not nearly as difficult the other way around.

And it’s not driven entirely by society, a lot of it is based in biology and evolution. Men are quite obviously designed to have sex with as many women as possible, women to pick and choose the best mate. A man could, in theory, impregnate multiple women per day. A woman can get pregnant once per year. And that plays out in our psychology as well, as essentially the brain is biology and has been acted upon by the same evolutionary demands.

In fact I probably believe more that society has been influenced/“evolved” from our biology (of which psychology is a part). Quite simply women do not want as much sex/as many sexual partners as men and a deviation from this norm makes them a slut  :thumbsup:

So, to finally get to my own point, I don’t think we’d see a lot of women paying for sex even if we lived in a “tolerant” society. I don’t think they want sex as much and they certainly don’t have to pay when they do!

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I always wonder if men who accuse their wives of disinterest ever consider their own performance. Is she frigid or is the man just a poor swordsman?

Most women i have met never got bored of GOOD sex.  Lot of women have never had good sex to know what it actually is from my experience of speaking to a lot of married women.   The reason most men don't get laid anymore at home is because they are shit in bed and/or stop caring about giving their partners what they want or never did in the first place.  The flipside is a lot of women forego good sex to marry a man who will provide well for their children/themselves longer term and provide sex/put up with shit sex from the man at the start to get that and produce the children then turn the taps off.
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... I just can’t see how you make that conclusion... A large part of punting, for me, is simply the ease. I am not unattractive, can hold a conversation, and have a decent job (humble brags  ;) ), but it’s still a lot more work to pick up a civvie than a Sex Worker.

Read what you quoted again.  Your inability to believe is rooted in your own judgement of women who embrace and indulge their sexual appetites freely with multiple partners they have chosen.  There's a lot of recent media and academic examination of female libido that confirms they are just as capable of considerable appetite.  Given we are one of the very few species that have sex for pleasure there is no biological inhibition, it is purely conditioning that binds us (sex for money or sex without love, etc), once repression of women's freedoms are cleared and their actions free of judgement by men and women then they will be able to enjoy themselves as freely as men.  Given our liberated behaviours it stands to reason that women of means will purchase sex on their own terms rather than have to court it.

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Almost any girl could walk into pretty much any bar and get herself laid.

But not the way she might want, not on the terms she might want, not for as long as she wants. not for the level of consideration she might want.  When those of us here go looking for GFE we want involvement to a degree that satisfies us, we may not get it but we are free to shop around and the purpose of this site is to facilitate smart shopping, which is why everyone should be reviewing with a minimum standard of detail covering technique, engagement and performance.  Sure you might envisage people having frank discussions in the bar trying to convince each other of their sincere intent to deliver sex just the way the other wants but they might be jsut empty promises on both behalves.
The purchase of services is supposed to bring an element of service delivery.  Perhaps if Tinder/Grindr et al were to introduce reviews where everyone would recount each sex encounter then you could move to the paradigm of free love with satisfaction for all, free of charge.

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There was a fairly banal point made on a TV show I watched the other night: the girl, who had gotten herself banged by the school American football team, made the observation that she is therefore known as a slut, if a guy did it he’d be a legend (presumably with the girl cheerleading team or equivalent). Of course he bloody would! And mostly due to the relative difficulties of the two tasks...imagine if a guy had the wherewithal’s to seduce an entire female football team. It’s not nearly as difficult the other way around.

That's you judging based on (un)conscious male supremacy, religious dogma and misogyny.

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And it’s not driven entirely by society, a lot of it is based in biology and evolution.

So why are women multi-orgasmic and men much less so (Tantrism aside)? 

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Men are quite obviously designed to have sex with as many women as possible, women to pick and choose the best mate. A man could, in theory, impregnate multiple women per day. A woman can get pregnant once per year. And that plays out in our psychology as well, as essentially the brain is biology and has been acted upon by the same evolutionary demands.

Oh dear, that's male centrism and conceit speaking, not equality of expression of human consciousness.  Men and women both need to eat and can equally over-indulge.  Likewise any other vice, women have "equal" capacity and capability to smoke, drink, take drugs, watch movies, sing in the rain, gamble, shop.

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... Quite simply women do not want as much sex/as many sexual partners as men and a deviation from this norm makes them a slut  :thumbsup:

So, to finally get to my own point, I don’t think we’d see a lot of women paying for sex even if we lived in a “tolerant” society. I don’t think they want sex as much and they certainly don’t have to pay when they do!

 :dash:

Try reading outside of your bubble and thinking beyond where you lose focus and check out the chebs on a passer-by.

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Read what you quoted again.  Your inability to believe is rooted in your own judgement of women who embrace and indulge their sexual appetites freely with multiple partners they have chosen.  There's a lot of recent media and academic examination of female libido that confirms they are just as capable of considerable appetite.  Given we are one of the very few species that have sex for pleasure there is no biological inhibition, it is purely conditioning that binds us (sex for money or sex without love, etc), once repression of women's freedoms are cleared and their actions free of judgement by men and women then they will be able to enjoy themselves as freely as men.  Given our liberated behaviours it stands to reason that women of means will purchase sex on their own terms rather than have to court it.

But not the way she might want, not on the terms she might want, not for as long as she wants. not for the level of consideration she might want.  When those of us here go looking for GFE we want involvement to a degree that satisfies us, we may not get it but we are free to shop around and the purpose of this site is to facilitate smart shopping, which is why everyone should be reviewing with a minimum standard of detail covering technique, engagement and performance.  Sure you might envisage people having frank discussions in the bar trying to convince each other of their sincere intent to deliver sex just the way the other wants but they might be jsut empty promises on both behalves.
The purchase of services is supposed to bring an element of service delivery.  Perhaps if Tinder/Grindr et al were to introduce reviews where everyone would recount each sex encounter then you could move to the paradigm of free love with satisfaction for all, free of charge.

That's you judging based on (un)conscious male supremacy, religious dogma and misogyny.

So why are women multi-orgasmic and men much less so (Tantrism aside)? 

Oh dear, that's male centrism and conceit speaking, not equality of expression of human consciousness.  Men and women both need to eat and can equally over-indulge.  Likewise any other vice, women have "equal" capacity and capability to smoke, drink, take drugs, watch movies, sing in the rain, gamble, shop.

 :dash:

Try reading outside of your bubble and thinking beyond where you lose focus and check out the chebs on a passer-by.

Sorry for triggering you  :unknown:

Seems a bit of an oxymoronic world you’re wishing for...in which there’s free love for all, provided you bring your CV and references.

Anyway, we’re clearly diametrically opposed and you seem a bit too angry to discuss further with, even if I had the inclination. I’ve pretty much expressed my viewpoint, so enjoy the rest of your day  :hi:

(But no, women would not start paying for sex if society removed their shackles - yours, a misogynistic, male centric, multiple other SJW key words, male supremacist  :D )

Offline king tarzan

Fucks sake no need for debacle pointless debates..
Go in get your tongue lashed/ dick sucked and fucked and leave. 
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Offline king tarzan

Sorry for triggering you  :unknown:

Seems a bit of an oxymoronic world you’re wishing for...in which there’s free love for all, provided you bring your CV and references.

Anyway, we’re clearly diametrically opposed and you seem a bit too angry to discuss further with, even if I had the inclination. I’ve pretty much expressed my viewpoint, so enjoy the rest of your day  :hi:

(But no, women would not start paying for sex if society removed their shackles - yours, a misogynistic, male centric, multiple other SJW key words, male supremacist  :D )

What a poofy name!! Daffodil :lol: :lol:
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Offline LLPunting

Sorry for triggering you  :unknown:

Seems a bit of an oxymoronic world you’re wishing for...in which there’s free love for all, provided you bring your CV and references.

Anyway, we’re clearly diametrically opposed and you seem a bit too angry to discuss further with, even if I had the inclination. I’ve pretty much expressed my viewpoint, so enjoy the rest of your day  :hi:

(But no, women would not start paying for sex if society removed their shackles - yours, a misogynistic, male centric, multiple other SJW key words, male supremacist  :D )

Not triggered.

Purely proposing the rational approach.  I was labelling your mind-set not insulting you (unlike yourself).  Recognising your behaviour is the first step to challenging it and, if you want to, overcoming it.  Your mis-interpretation of my statements further speaks to your subscription to the very dogma you need not to be there.

Hey ho, try reading it again, a bit more slowly, have some icecream ready if the neurons start hurting too much.

Offline LLPunting

What a poofy name!! Daffodil :lol: :lol:

It's not poofy, it's pretty.  I'm sure he gets a ton of action in the Valleys...

...that he pays for access to; private entrances and what not.
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Offline Home Alone

Sorry, that's largely irrelevant, if you are a dyed in the wool punter you have an insatiable thirst for new / strange pussy, that is the driver, it makes no difference if you are have DFK/OWO etc available on demand at home, you would still be out on the prowl.

Come on, Jonestown, you surely know the saying that " 'if' is one of the biggest words in the English language". I'm sure I'm not the only one on here who started punting because sex had been removed from the marital menu.

And while it's true that my early days of punting I was like the proverbial kid in the sweetshops which which were/are the Mancunian massage parlours, I soon found it an unsatisfying, while usually physically enjoyable, experience to shag women young enough to be my daughters and in some cases, grand-daughters.

However, after about 18 months, I discovered independent MILFs on AW who provided the kind of sex I'd been looking for in a GFE; nothing too strenuous - I was in my 60s with a physical disability, after all! - with the rapport I'd enjoyed in the marriage with the OH. It was the kind of experience which this punter had been looking for, and over much of the last 12 or 13 years, I have enjoyed.

The only snag about Regulars is that, sooner or later, they retire :( and we have to begin the search all over.

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The only snag about Regulars is that, sooner or later, they retire :( and we have to begin the search all over.

Do you have just one regular at a time, or do you maintain a small select fleet of them ?


Offline Belgarion

Most women i have met never got bored of GOOD sex.  Lot of women have never had good sex to know what it actually is from my experience of speaking to a lot of married women.   The reason most men don't get laid anymore at home is because they are shit in bed and/or stop caring about giving their partners what they want or never did in the first place.  The flipside is a lot of women forego good sex to marry a man who will provide well for their children/themselves longer term and provide sex/put up with shit sex from the man at the start to get that and produce the children then turn the taps off.

Have to agree with some if that. All the relationships and partners I've had, we've had very healthy sex lives.

Don't have any kids so I'm not sure if the tap turns off then but if a woman is comfy in her skin and has a high libido, she won't turn off the tap

Offline jammy273

For me GFE is the main reason for punting. At some point I'll probably indulge some PSE or the like just to tick some things of the bucket list but it isn't the be all and end all for me right now.

You can't deny the sexual element to GFE but if I've got the horn there are multiple options. But to actually get somewhere near to feeling close to someone and getting the emotional rush along side the sexual. Its an odd thing where holding hands can be as intense as fucking. I'm guessing I'm on the extreme end of that but hey.

The rise of GFE is probably more linked to how interconnected the world is. You could have an affair with some civvy you've met but then you run the risk of them getting cold feet or being jealous etc and it being much easier to find out everything about yourself. Why fuck the secretary who will have to look your wife in the eye when you can take a more discreet route with more set boundaries? Plus with an escort there is no expectations of a good experience and it can be centred around you and your ego.

As to why people play away from home I think it is natural. Monogamy is the social construct and I think a lot more people would be in happy relationships if the idea that fucking or kissing or having a date with someone else wasn't cheating. You should marry someone because you make a good team and want to spent the rest of your life together. Not because you want exclusive rights to their cock/pussy.

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Not triggered.

Purely proposing the rational approach.  I was labelling your mind-set not insulting you (unlike yourself).  Recognising your behaviour is the first step to challenging it and, if you want to, overcoming it.  Your mis-interpretation of my statements further speaks to your subscription to the very dogma you need not to be there.

Hey ho, try reading it again, a bit more slowly, have some icecream ready if the neurons start hurting too much.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
That's the funniest thing I've read all day!

Offline king tarzan

Think of it as a lovely dessert cake

A portion for relationship with the lady of your life..

The other portion for no strings yummy yum yum yaba daba doo 👅👅👅👅😋😋😋😋 delicious fun with sexy young women hotties..😄👅👅😋😋😋

Best part is the two portions are kept separate..and enjoyed separately 👅👅👅😋😋😋

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Offline Home Alone

Do you have just one regular at a time, or do you maintain a small select fleet of them ?

Usually only one at any one time. However I haven't had one for a couple of years since the last one retired. She's been very difficult to replace although, as I'm getting older, the urge is getting weaker.

The exception to one at a time was when I took early retirement aged 61 and in the 4 years till my State Pension started, my Works Pension was only enough for 1 punt a month. For most of those 4 years, I saw one Regular in, say, January, April, July & October; another Regular - who pressed different buttons for me - in, say, February, May, August & November, while in each of the remaining months I saw different girls from my HL, 'auditioning' successors for when either of the two Regulars retired.

Offline Payyourwaymate



In fact I probably believe more that society has been influenced/“evolved” from our biology (of which psychology is a part). Quite simply women do not want as much sex/as many sexual partners as men and a deviation from this norm makes them a slut  :thumbsup:



Hey, do not be mistaken that girls do not want to have a lot of sex with a lot of guys. When I was in uni there were plenty of examples of girls doing multiple guys in a night, my friends at the time "running trains" on girls on holidays. Girls giving lineups etc... i'm sure you get the drift. The kicker is they do not want to be found out!

Offline christofferson

...obviously, the " GFE " will be what the SP thinks it should be. Not a good start. Possibly it's an excuse for them to talk more and give less physical attention, playing on
the punters' EAS heart strings.
If you click, like with any SP, it will be good but for me GFE is a sign to tone things down and come up light in what she is putting out.

 

Offline king tarzan

...obviously, the " GFE " will be what the SP thinks it should be. Not a good start. Possibly it's an excuse for them to talk more and give less physical attention, playing on
the punters' EAS heart strings.
If you click, like with any SP, it will be good but for me GFE is a sign to tone things down and come up light in what she is putting out.

Go to Collette from Diva and find out what a proper GFE IS
Super glue dfk etc... No letting up what so ever..
It's Micheal Holding sheer pace  non stop ruus maan!!
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